CORDLESS FLASH – Concepts

 

The recent release of the Godox AD200 / eVOLV 200 has been a great development, and will hopefully spark some new ideas in the way lighting manufacturers approach the design of compact flash units.

Though the one thing that is currently still holding back most cordless strobes from taking over more from mains powered AC lights is still the lack of serious modelling lights.

And even a compact 200Ws strobe like the AD200 could be incredibly versatile if they also had a serious modelling light solution available.

So below I have put together concept suggestions for a cordless AD360 style flash, and also a modelling light enabled S-type bracket for the AD200.

I’m not suggesting Godox have plans to produce any of these, they are just concepts.

 

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CORDELSS AD360 III CONCEPT

 

The all in one cordless AD360 would ideally provide the compact and light weight Godox accessory mount built-in (already used in the Godox version AD600).

Using that mount would allow space for a ring of LED modelling lights, ideally providing around 30 – 40 watts total (around 200 watt halogen)

And the flash body would stay within approximately 90mm diameter, so the whole unit can then slide into an S-type bracket, and right through the speedring collar. Providing something of a Profoto like depth adjustment into the Bowens mount modifiers.

With an adapter sleeve bringing the flash body up to 100mm diameter, Profoto modifiers could likely even be attached directly to the strobe then as well.

 

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So this design allows for the all important unobstructed modelling lights, while still allowing standard reflector and light weight modifiers to be mounted directly to the strobe in its most compact form.

Though also providing a simple S-type mount, with full depth adjustment. Which as discussed bellow can be very valuable, particularly with compact strobes.

And even with the larger S-type bracket attached, the whole unit would still be considerably more manageable than the full size AD600B / XPLOR.

 

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Regarding the depth adjustment into Bowens S-type modifiers. Original Bowens strobes traditionally have the flash tube and backing plate protruding well outside of the modifier mount.

And a common issue with many other brand lights is simply that their flash tube does not protrude far enough into the modifiers, due to the deep collar Bowens style speedrings often use.

For example, mounting an AD200 flash in an S-type bracket I found moving the flash forward actually provided 0.4 stops more light in a 38″ Glow ParaPop softbox. Which put the AD200 just one stop below the much larger AD600 in the same softbox.

So this ability to slide the flash right through the Bowens speedring collar provides something of a Profoto style depth adjustment. Which can effect the light output, and also allow adjustment for the spread of light when used in parabolic reflectors etc.

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AD200 / eVOLV S-TYPE BRACKET WITH MODELLING LIGHT

 

Providing a serious modelling light for the current AD200 / eVOLV there are a few more issues to overcome.

The current bare bulb head has no room to fit any LED lights with the standard reflector etc mounted. And also the on-board battery alone is not going to last long with a decent 20 – 40 watt LED light.

Godox are interested in producing a dual mount for two AD200 though. So an S-type bracket with its own built in LED light and battery compartment could be a nice solution.

The bracket serves two purposes then, as it can be used to provide an LED modelling light even if using just a single AD200, or with dual AD200 mounted.

The dual bulb mount would reduce the bracket cost significantly by allowing you to use the original flash tubes which come with the strobes.

For the LED light the bracket would use its own AD200 battery. (Which also provides a spare battery for further flash use if needed).

 

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And for people that do use dual mount a lot, and are prepared to pay the extra for a dedicated flash tube, Godox could possibly provide an optional dual filament flash tube as well.

Also a simple dual purpose handle could be made available, for easier tilting of the flash/modifier, as well as hand holding the set up.

 

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Godox have confirmed they do want to produce some form of dual mount for the AD200, though they have not commented on the modelling light concept (at the time of writing this), which I personally think is the key factor.

Unfortunately this unit would not be depth adjustable for the flash tube into the modifier. Though the idea would be to at least set the flash tube mount and backing plate so they are already protruding out from the mount to some degree.

Ideally it would even be nice if the flash tube mount would slide in and out of the bracket, so that its still as compact as possible when packing etc. (Though that may be asking a bit much).

 

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AD600B / XPLOR MODELLING LIGHT AND FLASH TUBE MOUNT

 

With the AD600B / XPLOR, we had been suggesting to Godox before the flash was released that spacing the flash tube out an inch, and using that mount area to add some serious LED modelling lights would be a great improvement to the output of both. (Obviously the never happened unfortunately).

Godox have confirmed they will at least look at improving the AD600 modelling lights when developing the next version of the strobe. Though no time or specifies have been mentioned.

 

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So that’s just a few ideas. Though I hope Godox, and other manufacturers, do start really considering serious LED modelling lights (20W LED / 150W halogen absolute minimum). Especially when we are in the age of video now as well.

People do want to use these same cordless strobes outdoors and in the studio etc, and the lack of modelling lights is the last thing holding that back.

And also consider the depth adjustable S-type mounting concept.

Over the last few years many people have been feeling out what the most practical size strobe would be for them, and the 300 – 400Ws compact units like the AD360 have often been the most popular choice.

Now many people are just waiting on cordless versions to emerge, and very few manufactures have even entered this space just yet. If anything the SMDV BRiHT-360 are really the first to get started.

Though the BRiHT-360 only have limited space for 7W LED lights, and the flash body will not fit through a Bowens speedring insert.

SMDV are will no doubt come up with some good solutions, though hopefully manufacturers that haven’t started yet can consider these concepts from the beginning.

 

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COMMON BATTERIES & CHARGERS ETC

 

Another thing we have been suggesting for almost a decade now is to look at how the cordless power tool industry has evolved.

Cordless power tools are serious business now, and have taken over from many AC powered tools you wouldn’t have though possible or practical just a short time ago.

What makes them practical for serious tradespeople to use though is things like common batteries, and multi dock chargers etc.

A cordless tool which is not part of a larger system, using a common battery system, simply won’t sell anymore.

 

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The battery mount is the same for all tools, though batteries can then come in varying size and capacity.

Even the shape can be quite different, as long as they fit the common mount.

 

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So this is something strobe lighting manufacturers could really be considering when first designing a cordless strobe, to fit in with a possible larger system in the future.

Continuous lights have developed common standards like the Sony NP-F and V-mounts, though so far for strobes its been a free for all, and that’s not the most practical situation.

 

RUGGED CASES 

 

Also another reason we have been suggesting for some time now to look at the power tool industry for inspiration, is actually the way they are built to take some abuse.

Obviously studio strobes can be quite delicate, where speedlites often stand up to a reasonable beating.

With strobes like the AD200 now starting to make the crossover between the two, they could be designed with rubber padding etc so that they can at least be easily stacked together (even just for transport), or placed on rough surfaces etc.

Again we had been suggesting dedicated off camera strobes similar to the AD200 concept almost a decade ago.

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The key now though is practical modelling lights. with a corresponding modifier mount.

And the ability fit through a Bowens speedring for depth adjustment makes a lot of sense.

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Godox may be just lucky their AD600 mount is the right size. Because the last thing needed is more different new mounts again.

Though a compact modifier mount which will accommodate the modelling lights is needed. Even if traditional horse shoe shape bulb with LED light in the center are used instead.

More serious LED lights need to start happening though if cordless strobes are going to really move forward.

 

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42 Comments
  1. Dominik Magdziak 10 months ago

    This concept seems neat! I’m looking for a small strobe to use on backpacking adventures throughout southern Asia next year for mid-day portraits. Does anyone have any suggestions on small battery powered strobes? In terms of specs I’d like to have 200ws+ (preferably 400ws and above), TTL is not required as I have very rarely found myself using it, compatible in some way with Fuji x-system – currently switching over and have little knowledge with integrating external lighting with Fuji. Overall I’d like to go as small as possible, possibly around the size of a Profoto B2. I honestly want to avoid a designated power pack when using strobes – does what I desire exist or am in fairyland? Thank you (:

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Hi Dominik,

      I’m not sure what exactly you’re referring to regarding the designated power packs (did you want to run off AA batteries otherwise?), though the new AD200 / eVOLV are likely to be the best bang for buck in terms of size and weight Vs power.

      I think they will be pretty hard to beat as a strobe to travel with if you want something larger than regular speedlites. A lot more compact than a B2.

      • Dominik Magdziak 10 months ago

        Hey,

        Thanks for the quick response. By that I mean I don’t want the main source of power to be a power pack. I’d like the strobe to have a battery in the head and not connected to a pack. When traveling I don’t want to be lugging a power pack along with the strobe itself

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 10 months ago

          Ok no worries. The AD200 / eVOLV would certainly be the best place to start looking at this stage then.

  2. Andy 10 months ago

    I own AD600B, so I like the idea of adding more modeling light to it (Like the model you show in the picture). However, I’d prefer Godox at least create some sort of modeling light adapter, beside creating new strobe. This way, people who already owned AD600 wouldn’t have to buy new strobe, just buy the adapter.
    What I mean buying LED adapter install on current tube socket, then put bare bulb on top of it.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Hi Andy,

      I think a plug in extension could work, though unfortunately I don’t think there is any chance Godox themselves will make one, with or without modeling lights. A number of people have asked them to make a basic flash bulb extension, but they always say no even to that.

      There would definitely be a market for an extension adapter though, so it could be an opportunity for a third party to produce. The LED light power supply comes through the flash bulb contact sockets (for the remote head LED light), so it should be possible to power LED lights in a plug in extension adapter something like what is shown in the post.

      • Andy 9 months ago

        I’d prefer 2 or 3 set of AD200, instead of AD600 as I shoot pretty much on location. So AD200 is easier to carry and with the new concept of double AD200 adapter, it would be great too.

  3. mealtrip 10 months ago

    Cool concepts, but honestly… “THE” thing we need most from Godox now is a really nice trigger, with dedicated +/- AND mode buttons for at least four groups and a big enough screen where I can mess around with those four groups without scrolling off into oblivion. I’ve been extremely impressed with the new 2.4G line so far, but for as good as the X1T’s work, they are, a bit of a pain to use.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Hi mealtrip,

      Godox and Flaspoint have been working on new transmitter versions at the moment. I’ve had quite a bit of input into the Flashpoint version at least. They started off as one transmitter, though Godox wanted to do things their own way still. Both versions will have a large screen and dedicated group buttons (though obviously I think the Flashpoint version is better so far).

      Godox’s weakest point is still the on camera master flash though, and that’s the thing we are still struggling to get them to realise. Its still not on their agenda for this year even, which is a big problem.

      • mealtrip 10 months ago

        Thanks for the reply and a big YAY! for “more buttons” in the near future. What you’ve said about the on-camera master flash is funny… and spot-on… because I won’t even use it that way. I have three of the X1T’s and just leave them set for different common shooting scenarios, pop them on and off the camera, and just hold (or have someone else hold) the V860II over their head. Ha! Don’t even get me started on that plastic disc screw-down thing on the V860II’s! Please, give me a latch!!!!

  4. Darryl 10 months ago

    I would gladly substitute battery life for real modeling lights. If I have a long shoot would just buy an extra battery. Currently the Godox strobes are a no go in a dedicated studio due to the lack of modeling lights. With the digibees having a 70w LED daylight balanced modeling they will need to step up soon as I am sure the Einsteins will get this as well.

    • Mike 10 months ago

      I originally felt the same way, but after bringing 3x AD600’s (freshly charged) to a shoot and having batteries die fairly quickly when using the modeling lights (and going through a spare battery), I don’t think I’d want to lose even more power. A larger battery would be great, but with the current prices ($150 per spare) it’s already a bit pricey.

      By the end of the shoot, all 4 batteries were completely done for.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 10 months ago

        Hi Mike,

        That’s true, battery management is always going to be a factor to deal with.

        Though firstly, at the very least if there is a usable modelling light provided, you can always use an AC adapter at times. For many people that’s really the difference between having to own or purchase 2 different sets of strobes. So for that reason alone serious modelling lights shouldn’t be going overlooked as they mostly are so far.

        Even though they know AC adapters are important, from my experience most Chinese companies at least still see battery strobes as something completely separate to studio lights. When that’s not the way the average consumer sees things at all. People have been mixing speedlites in the studio for some time now as well, so they see no reason these mid size and larger strobes can not work well in a studio like environment as well.

        But also over time they likely are going to have to get more creative with battery conservation. Things like more options for setting the light to stay on for different short length periods. Possibly just having the light come on with half press of the camera shutter, and then dim down after a short period.

        I had a bit of a discussion with Godox not that long ago about modelling lights in general, with the AC lights as well. And they did agree they need to upgrade those from 150W, and also they will add proportional power control to all the lights. The AC strobes already have the option for the modelling light to go off while the strobe fires, so options like that should be added to the battery strobes as well. Every bit helps.

        Lastly like you mentioned its probably going to come down to larger batteries. Elinchrom just announced a new 1200Ws unit with a 50W LED (250W halogen equivalent). The light can run for 80 minutes straight, though the battery weighs 1kg (2 pounds).

  5. Craig 10 months ago

    Some good ideas here! Especially like the idea of a universal battery design with different capacity options.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Thanks Craig.

      There’s a lot of things I still didn’t get to mention. I totally agree the swiss arca style rail base mount is a great thing to have. And the strobes should have at least 2 threaded holes designed to allow a base plate rail to be screwed in place. And swivels available with corresponding clamp on top etc.

  6. Charles 10 months ago

    I totally agree! The only turnoff to me about the godox system is the lack of useable modeling lights. I currently have two Ad600s and two ad360s. I’m thinking about selling them and buying 4 ad200s for outdoor work where HSS and TTL help. Than for studio using my Einstein and upgrading to Digibees. For me anyway, strong modeling lights make my job so much easier.

  7. georgep 10 months ago

    these are very interesting I must admit, however my main problem with Godox are the flaky transmitter system integration, being a bit complicated compared to the older one button push +_ changes on past transmitters. So flaky that I dedicate whole transmitters just to be sure I m controlling the power of a certain flash / channel 🙁

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Hi George,

      As mentioned above, Godox are working on a new transmitter at the moment.

      They should have simple group control via individual group buttons.

      And if they follow through with the current plan we have suggested, they should even have a single large group display option like the XT-32 etc, as well as being able to view all groups on the LCD screen at once.

  8. Harold 10 months ago

    I have used Dynalites since 1980 for location photography, and have been pleased with them when AC power is readily available. I think battery strobes would be very useful in many situations, but the reason I haven’t invested in Godox yet is the lack of a stronger modelling light. While the Profoto B1is 20W, the price tag of $3000 CA puts me off.

    20W I would consider a minimum, but higher would be better. The new Elinchrom has been mentioned at 50W, and the new Hensel mono light will be 40W. Battery drain doesn’t concern me, as they can be used for a short time to set up, then switched off. I often do this even with the Dynalites, to reduce heat build up as well as current draw.

    AC strobes have their risks too. I once completely wiped out a dentist’s office ( computer, fax, etc ) when a Speedotron Force 10 shorted out and created a power surge. Fortunately Speedotron covered the damage!

  9. C. Stephen Hurst 10 months ago

    Thank god for Flash Havoc! This is a great article. The thought process is spot on. We should only hope that they take your input seriously. You mention that you didn’t expound upon all the thoughts/ideas for this concept AD360III. Will there be a follow up article in the not to distant future?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Hi Stephen,

      Thanks, I might do some more. The main points I wanted to mention where actually more referring to larger strobes, and having remote heads that split away from the flash body etc, instead of only additional remote heads like the AD600B provides.

  10. Junior Major 10 months ago

    I really liked the ad360 III, but I thought the ad 600 could have the same format I think would be simpler for the accessories and everything else, I think it would be a more productive way if godox or jinbei would reflect on these concepts and about Listen to customers

  11. Cheng Tean Law 10 months ago

    I have a fantastic thinking….. I hope that some Led Light or Bowens S-type Adapter manufacturers to come out with some Bowens S-type Adapter with led lights, one can be used as video shooting, but also can be used for all other flashes…..one stone kill two birds! 😉
    我有一个奇想,就是希望一些制造 Led 灯或Bowens S-type Adapter 的厂商制造一些外型类似 Bowens S-type Adapter 的照明灯,一可供 Video 拍摄,另外又可以用於普通的灯光灯上,可谓是一石二鸟!

  12. georgep 10 months ago

    well it seems that Godox is the company that has been on the move! It is evident even here judging from the countless comments on Godox strobes and the near absence of comments / interest in other brands.

  13. Sal 10 months ago

    Very interesting article!!!

    I didn’t know that a little bit moving the bulb (e.g. on a AD600) into the bowens mount would yield considerably more output.

    Wouldn’t it be OBVIOUS to build a little passive “bulb extender”???

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Hi Sal,

      As I mentioned in previous comments, Godox do not want to make a basic flash bulb extender. A number of dealers etc have asked them for this.

      I would guess one of the main reasons is that it would render the current LED light even more obstructed.

      There would be a market for the extender though, a lot of these lights have been sold already. So it would be up to a enterprising third party to possibly do something for the current lights.

      I don’t know if the 3D printing materials may be up to the ability of handling the heat. If not you could likely have something CNC machined. I don’t know how common or easy the contact pins and sockets would be to source either though.

      Godox are unlikely to do anything though other than revise the next strobe model.

      • Sal 9 months ago

        Short question: How long would you recommend an extender should be?

        Of course it depends on the modifier. But if you had to chose one length, what would you think optimal on average?

        Maybe you could easily build one from the parts of an AD-H600 extension head?…. A bit pricey though…

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 9 months ago

          Well an inch (25mm) can make around 0.3 stops difference.

          We were looking at more of a permanent extension to the flash head so we didn’t look to much further than that, as its increasing the overall size of the strobe.

          The plug for the extension head is around 30mm thick which looks quite a good size (if you have a look at that plugged into the head).

          Yes you could possibly use the pins and contacts from an extension head to make a prototype etc.

          Though also looking at the extension head that looks to be an easier place to possibly even make a permanent extension. The female contacts are attached to a large circuit board, though it looks like that board could be moved out. With a spacer block placed under the backing plate to space the whole flash bulb mount out.

          And a spacer block looks like something that could be 3D printed, so if we did make a drawing people could have the spacer printed off themselves online.

          Update – I pulled the remote head apart (which wasn’t hard) and this could work. Though the wires were only long enough for 20mm extension. And that may even vary with each head. So it would mean either possibly cutting the cord saver to allow some more cord through, or extending the wires which would involve some soldering.

          Still easy for people that don’t mind tinkering with a soldering iron etc, but not a simple plug and play upgrade which would suit the majority of people unfortunately.

          • Wolf Dieter 9 months ago

            If your thinking is about the AD600: what’s about the LED? It would be blocked by the extension. Not even optical – the heat might be a problem.
            And moving the flashtube back and forth does also mean the spread of light ist changed.

            • Author
              Flash Havoc 9 months ago

              Hi Wolf,

              My last comments were regarding the AD600 remote head. I was referring to spacing the whole backing plate with flash bulb contact socket, and the LED light, all outwards an inch or so.

              So the LED light would have the same function as standard.

              Yes moving the flash tube out would have an effect on the spread of light in modifiers like the standard reflector. Though even without modifying that standard reflector I’m not sure that spacing the bulb out may not have been an improvement still.

  14. Samuel STEFANELLO 9 months ago

    Thanks for this concept. It’s a really good idea to implement quickly.
    With this kind of gear studio flash will be death LOL

  15. Andrew 9 months ago

    I’d never used Godox before, but I recently acquired the new Godox TT350S, X-1s trigger, and have an AD200 on the way to me.

    The things I’d love to see from them are:
    A smaller trigger. The X-1 is more massive than I thought from photos. It’s great to hear that they’re working on a new large and easy to use trigger, but I think they also could really do with a small trigger option as well. Considering they can fit a transmitter into the diminutive TT350S, this definitely seems possible.

    An AA battery module for the AD200. Similarly to how a Nikon D700 battery grip could use either lithium ion batteries or AA, it would be great to have the option for the AD200 as well. (For travelers – AA batteries can be stored in check-in luggage, lithium ion needs to be carried in hand luggage).

    And maybe it goes without saying, but if those rugged lights were weather/water proof, I’d be very interested in such a flash.

    P.S. Your suggested Witstro 360 II looks just about perfect… especially if it was a true 360Ws

  16. Mark 9 months ago

    Count me in the minority.

    Modeling lights are something I never use.
    However I do appreciate your thoughtful explorations of possible flash form factors and ideas.

    For me the most useful of these ideas would be an AD 360 that accepts Profoto modifers. The ability to adjust flash depth and the compact form would be a huge plus.

    I have to agree about the X-1/2 transmitters as I got one for my two new AD360s. They work fine but are the devil to configure and then lose the settings when switched off!

    I also don’t use groups as I have never seen any utility in the work I do.

    • Sal 9 months ago

      You write “lose the settings when switched off!”

      I didn’t notice that?!?

  17. MTL 9 months ago

    Hi, something that hasn’t come up yet in that discussion so far is that most LED modelling lights are an extremely poor representation of the flash tube’s illumination, and few of the concepts seen in this page would be able to solve that issue, which I admit isn’t much of a big deal with white umbrellas or softboxes, but definitely is with some other modifiers (parabolic modifiers, some hard reflectors, snoots, etc.), unfortunately very often the ones where precise adjustment is key :D.
    My Profoto B2’s heads have an (evil) internal omega-shaped flash tube and a single LED chip in the middle of it, both behind a frosted pyrex cover, and that isn’t enough to get a good match. It will be much worse with an omnidirectional flash tube vs. a single or several forward-facing LED chips much further behind. So in addition to more powerful modelling lights on more battery operated strobes, I’d really like to see some creative thinking to try to better bridge the gap between the LED and flash tube’s projections.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 9 months ago

      Hi MTL,

      Yes that’s true, though I don’t know if there are any easy solutions at this stage though.

      I’ve seen some people suggesting swapping the traditional screw in halogen modeling light globes for omnidirectional style LED alternatives. Though I really don’t know how practical they are at this stage. And also how much they could possibly even block light from the flash tube etc.

      I wonder if Godox may even be trying to think of some creative flash tube designs themselves to help resolve the issue with the Godox mount AD600. Because there is no room to surround the flash tube with LED’s as we suggested with the Bowens mount lights. And even with the Bowens mount lights being far more popular, I still doubt they really want to provide a solution for the Bowens mount and not their own.

  18. Michael Quack 9 months ago

    You are right about the 300 Ws units being very popular.

    I think that the main factor in this is their price point.

    People tend to shoot their first attempt on the cheapest option, after all every single one of them is labelled “studio flash”, and buying online/mail order provides no chance for tactile examination and build quality experience before buying.

    That said, I am pretty much fed up with proprietary 3rd party solutions, and I am very reluctant now to buy flash units not fully compatible with Canon RT (for Canon cameras, obviously). So, whatever a new flash can do – it should obey ST-E3-RT commands or come with a transmitter that is able to control 430EXIII-RT and 600EX-RT I/II speedlites.

  19. Martin 9 months ago

    The ideal would be a flash tube more like the Doughnut shaped ones found in Elinchrom flash heads then you could have a single Large LED cob in the middle.

    The reason I prefer a single LED cob instead of having a number of smaller LEDs is to give a single point light source (one shadow) instead of lots of shadows this allows you to use a fresnel attachment. if you had a number of separate LEDs it wouldn’t work.

    I recently bought a Came TV 30w Boltzen LED fresnel light and I suppose the ideal solution for video and stills (flash and constant light) would be a mix (amalgamation) of something like the Boltzen 30w or 55w LED light and something like AD200 or AD360 MK3 (like your design).

    Maybe another option would be a detachable head option like on the ad200 with one head for flash with a small LED for modelling (or number of LEDs) and then another separate head for video with a single large LED cob for high light output.

    If the flash tubes on the Godox stuff is going to stay the same then maybe the tube could be set back like they are on the Profoto heads for protection, I know this will reduce power slightly but with the new Lithium batteries the heads are getting more powerful so it’s not so much of an issue anymore.

    I like your idea and design for the AD360 MK3 that you have shown, as you stated the handle or connection is also very important, I’ve just purchased an AD200 and the connection is about the only thing I’m not particularly keen on as the stud can come loose in use and need tightening and it sticks out a bit if you leave it on all the time.

    In a power test with my Elinchrom ranger ELB my new AD200 is fractionally more powerful which was a big surprise to me as the Elinchrom is rated at 425 watts.

    With regards to the triggers I don’t think any of the triggers currently on the market are easy to use, I wish they had an easy way to adjust the power of a number of heads quickly, maybe a separate button for each head (upto four heads) then a single dial to control the power so you press the button to select the head then turn the dial or alternatively four separate dials a bit like the pocket wizard AC3 so that you can easily change the power without having to go into the menu and select the group or channel.

    I just have a question about the trigger I purchased to use with my new Godox AD200, I bought the XT32 and was just wondering if there is any way to change the power by full stops or half stops instead of having to go through 10th of a stop for every stop which is a real pain.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 9 months ago

      Hi Martin,

      If you hold the SET button down on the XT32 for 5 seconds it will then allow you to scroll through the different power scale options. So you can change it to 1/3rd stops (1/128+0.3, or 1/256+0.3).

  20. Craig 8 months ago

    Any idea if Godox has considered a standalone modeling light as a third option for the AD200, or if that’s even possible?

    You seem to have a preference for the cylinder shaped flash tubes in the center with a ring of individual modeling lights around it. I like how a ring type flash tube with a large modeling light in the center is more compact. To you, what are the main downsides to the latter?

  21. Hans 5 months ago

    GREAT IDEAS!!!

  22. Craig 4 weeks ago

    One more idea. If you did go with a ring of LEDs around the flash tube, you could make them alternating tungsten and daylight colored, and be able to use it as a video light with adjustable color temperature.

    What would be amazing would be a strobe with adjustable hue and saturation. I’m not sure how the tech inside works, but maybe similar to how this works: http://hivelighting.com/hive-products/wasp/wasp-100-c/

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