ELINCHROM – PHOTTIX – SEKONIC – Alliance Announced

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Phottix have announced a new technology alliance with lighting manufacturer Elinchrom and light meter company Sekonic.

Most significantly the collaboration will introduce a common shared wireless operating system, sharing the same radio signal between Elinchrom and Phottix lights, controllers, and receiver units.

Sekonic will also provide support for wireless triggering and group control for Phottix and Elinchrom lights, as well as remote power control for the Elinchrom lights.

 

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Engineers from the 3 companies are currently still in discussions on how this common radio system will be implemented, so there is not a lot of specific details available just yet.

Initially though Phottix will collaborate with Elinchrom to produce the next generation of Skyport transmitter units, which will include enhanced features and pre-sync firing signal for high shutter speeds (currently called Over Drive Sync in the Phottix system).

 

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With 3 parties involved in the collaboration, Phottix could not comment further at this stage on how the radio systems will be integrated.

Though with Phottix already heavily invested in the Odin TTL radio system (already built into the Indra 360 / 500 TTL and Mitros+ lights) it only stands to reason the Elinchrom units will likely adopt the remote manual and pre-sync components of the Odin radio system.

Phottix currently have dedicated Odin TTL radio systems for Canon, Nikon and Sony DSLR’s.

 

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Sekonic will produce a version, or versions, of their 478 series Litemaster Pro flash meters.

For Phottix these will provide remote firing of individual groups of flashes. And for Elinchrom lights, remote manual power control as well.

This will provide significant advantage for Phottix Odin / Indra / Mitros+ system users, as these currently have less than ideal light meter support due to the pre-flashes built into the TTL based system.

(That is provided the new collaborative radio system is actually built around the current Odin system).

 

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The Phottix Indra 360 and Indra 500 TTL lighting systems will also provide support for the Elinchrom accessory mount, allowing a large range of Elinchrom light shaping modifiers to be used with the Phottix lights.

Its currently not clear if this will be through an add on adapter, or if the Indra will Include a direct Elinchrom mount option.

Either way Phottix have confirmed that they will also continue with the current S-type mount for the Indra lights.

 

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More details from the new alliance should become available over the coming months.

This may be just the start of what is to come in the future though, as the three company’s leading in their area of expertise look to pool their resources into exciting new collaborative products.

 

Phottix – Press Release

Elinchrom – Website

Sekonic – Website

 

 

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12 Comments
  1. Earle 2 years ago

    As I’ve said elsewhere, this is great news for the wireless trigger applications. As for Elinchrom Rotalux modifiers being mounted on Phottix Indra lights — that can already be accomplished with the Bowens mount Rotalux speed ring. Hopefully, rather than Phottix going the two mount system (a la, say the Flashpoint Rovelight), Elinchrom would just market a line of its soft modifiers with the Bowens mount speed ring standard. Currently you buy a deep octa and it comes with the Elinchrom mount Rotalux speed ring as standard and the Bowens mount as an additional cost.

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      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Earle,

      Yes that’s an interesting situation with the mounts. I think the idea though is that if the lights are going to be compatible as far as the radio system, then you would want to use the same modifiers between both lights as well.

      As well as Phottix would be helping to support the Elinchrom mount (as Elinchrom are likely supporting the Phottix radio system).

      I would personally much prefer to standardize to all S-type mounts, so ideally I wish Elincrom would actually offer the S-type mount for their lights. I’m surprised a third party doesn’t offer an S-type adapter for the Quadra at least.

      For now at least Phottix have confirmed they will also continue with the S-type mount for the Indra. I wonder if that will be the case though if Phottix and Elinchrom start designing lights together later.

      The shared radio system brings up a lot of questions as well, as both companies have significant legacy products to accommodate. It will be very interesting to see how they approach this.

  2. Earle 2 years ago

    I suspect the collaboration will be more along the line of radio triggers. Chances are the next Skyport/Odin Hybrid will have multiple channel options along the lines of the Pocket Wizard TTL system — with a channel or two of manual frequency dedicated to the old Skyport system. As for Phottix changing to an Elinchrom head (Elinchrom heads do have a wider circumference than Bowens mount heads so I doubt it’ll be the other way around) … I don’t see the need. Same as a Bowens to Elinchrom Quadra mound adapter. Most Quadra users are more likely to have bigger Elinchrom lights (and modifiers). The dearth of comments on this thread are a good indication of interest too…

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    Flash Havoc 2 years ago

    I was a bit slow in posting this, so like yourself most people had already discussed this elsewhere. Without more specific details though we can only really wait and see what unfolds at this point anyway.

    I think this is going to be very significant though, particularly for Elinchrom users initially. And Elinchrom’s experience with studio lights can very possibly bring big advantages to the Phottix lights as well. Phottix are hinting towards bigger things to come already.

  4. Ronan D 2 years ago

    I’m interested in the Sekonic angle as I’ve been on the verge of buying the L-758D for the 1° spot meter. I want to be able to meter parts of landscape backdrops when lighting location-portraits (probably with Godox Wistros). If they’re definitely sticking to the L-478D then I’d go ahead and buy the L-758 because the 5° adaptor for that meter seems awkward. However if they’re going to produce an L-758DR in the near future that worked for a Phottix Indra system it would be very interesting. I really don’t want to spend hundreds on a light meter if there’s one around the corner that will do an even better job.

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      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Ronan,

      Thanks, yes the Sekonic side of things will be a huge step forward for the Phottix system, as light meter use is not easy with those currently due to the pre-flashes in the system.

      I don’t know if they would be contemplating an L758D at this stage or not, though I think its pretty safe to say they would be going one step at a time (with the L-478D first), so anything else would be quite some time away yet at best.

  5. Ronan D 2 years ago

    I think the solution for me right now is to get a second-hand L-508 which has a 1° spot. I can check out how the 5° adapter works on the L-478. If it’s too much bother adding & removing it to measure both flash & spot meter points in background then I can just work with two meters when needed down the line if I go Phottix. I wonder if some announcements are best kept until products are on the way, they’ve just sabotaged a sale to me!

  6. Ricardo 2 years ago

    This is fantastic. Especially for Sekonic and Elinchrom. While I don’t think Phottix really needs partnerships, it’s just smart for photography businesses in general as they are generally small and have limited resources. Sharing technology resources is a natural and smart move. Computer companies have been doing this since almost the beginning when personal computers started gaining traction. I consider most photography-technology companies to be in a new era, yet similar stage in their development.

    I hope the alliance allows the sharing of technology as long as you join the group. Then you can buy a certain piece of technology from the group and know that it will be compatible with other member’s technologies. And to joining doesn’t require a huge cost. Just a commitment to contributing and sharing. This all goes towards to having more open systems.

    And none of these business don’t compete with each other. Not really. Phottix and Elinchrom have two different customers. Elinchrom is the old school and Phottix the new. They each also have some cool technologies. Having a light meter integration is something Phottix really needed.

    If I were one of the bigger more established photography businesses in these markets, I’d be a little nervous. It’s going to be increasingly hard to remain an island. Then, we could see something similar to the VHS – Betamax or Blu-Ray/HD DVD wars. In the end, it was a waste of time and money.

    In the end, the consumer wins by having compatible systems, lower-costs and better technology.

  7. JH Photo 2 years ago

    This means more unnecessary duplication of crap, forgive the language but they should have stuck to something more sensible like a modular drop-in radio so you avoid having to buy multiple meters if you have different light systems.

  8. Niels Gram 2 years ago

    http://elinchrom.com/skyport/PlusHS.html

    Seems to be the first Elinchrom product based on Phottix hardware. It does look a lot like the Laso at least.

  9. Olivier Gisiger 1 year ago

    Seems Elinchrom is using Phottix Odin technology in a blackbox without giving back to the community.

    Statement from Elinchrom new EL-Skyport Plus HS FAQ:
    There is no compatibility with Phottix units since they use a different protocol.

    Still not the solution to mix Elinchrom lights with speedlights!

    I think we have to wait for Phottix to improve their Indra line lights quality (color temperature stability) to have a true studio light + speedlights integration solution.

  10. Darryl 1 year ago

    Any other news or updates for this. I am in the market for a lightmeter but don’t want to buy one if a new model may have odin remote control built in. I currently use the (3) Mitros+ with an Odin tx. It would be really nice to have a light meter that worked with these especially in TTL mode.

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