FLASHPOINT EVOLV 200 / GODOX EC-200 EXTENSION HEAD – Announced

XP-200 Extension Head

 

Flashpoint have announced the EVOLV 200 Extension Head / Godox EC-200, for the popular EVOLV and Godox AD200 compact portable strobes.

And they are available now from Adorama from $44.90.

 

XP-200 Extension Head

 

XP-200 Extension Head

 

There exact specs are not available just yet, though its clear from the images the Extension Head provides a tilting head with locking button, which would help with on-camera use. (No swivel function provided though).

The Extension Head could be mounted on a bracket above or beside the camera, with a radio transmitter in the camera hotshoe.

 

XP-200 Extension Head

 

And of course there would be numerous off camera applications for the Extension Head as well.

The head base provides a metal cold shoe with locking ring, and a standard 1/4″ 20 threaded mounting hole in the base.

 

 

XP-200 Extension Head

 

And attaching the Extension Head simply is simply a matter of clipping it in between the EVOLV / AD200 strobes, and their existing Fresnel and bare bulb modular heads.

 

 

XP-200 Extension Head

 

 

XP-200 Extension Head

 

UPDATE – Shortly after the initial release the Extension Head was updated to version 2, which doe not have the bulb where the cord enters the head adapter, and therefore now works with the Twin Head Bracket.

 

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The Flashpoint Extension Head XP-200 / Godox EC-200 are available from $44.90 –

Flashpoint XP-200 – Adorama, Amazon, Ebay

Godox EC200 – Amazon, UK, B&H Photo, Ebay

 

Flashpoint – Website

Godox – Website

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65 Comments
  1. Michael Quack 4 months ago

    But why, oh why not with a 5/8″ bushing (“rapidapter”) instead of a hotshoe catastrophe?

    This will go onto a boomstick naturally, and every adapter other than a rapidapter is less
    robust and more clumsy.

    • Gui 4 months ago

      I Don´t think the major use for this will be a boomstick. The ad200 is light enough for that.
      I´m planning to use this in my camera, so i don´t need to have a regular speedlite since i have 3 ad200s.
      So, i can mount this on the top of a xt1 trigger in my camera, and have a powerfull and light speedlight, with full access to controls 🙂

  2. Earle 4 months ago

    Could be a very cool way to place the light in some really tight places. I’ll be curious about the power loss from the cabling.

  3. Loi 4 months ago

    I dont think it would be utilized on camera because of the absence of the contact pin.

    • Joel Richards 4 months ago

      I don’t know. This finally makes me see a use for the hotshot ontop of the XT-1. At least on the Sony the passthrough shoe doesn’t have the necessary pins to be TTL and it seemed useless. It would still be very niche but there have been a couple times I’ve precariously balanced my AD360 atop my camera. This would be a much better solution.

      • Author
        FLASH HAVOC 4 months ago

        I think Godox are trying to provide an alternative to the Profoto B2 etc, where you can use the AD200 on camera while using an on-camera flash bracket.

        The AD360 is really too heavy mounting directly on the camera hotshoe (even without the extra weight of a bracket).

        I’d be wary of mounting the Extension Head directly on top of the X1 transmitter for too long though, as the transmitter will likely end up having reliability issues if you start putting physical stress on it.

  4. kennie 4 months ago

    This is a f*cking joke right? I just finished building my own extension head yesterday. 😀
    Cable length?
    The price is on point and to me it looks like you could daisy chain two, three, …of those units for more length. 🙂
    Use two units on the Godox AD-B2? Why not! 😀

    A W E S O M E!

    • Ricardo Gomez 4 months ago

      Agreed. I think this is fantastic and you’re totally right-on with the daisy chaining. But I think the length of these cables looks to be at least 2′ and possibly three. Three feet would be awesome. Maybe they should come out with a second version that has a 6′ cable.

      Not only would this help in tight spots as someone else already pointed out, but for very small modifiers as well. If you want to keep weight and size off the head and have most of the weight closer to the base, this is an excellent option.

      Great idea with a great price. Glad I am buying into the system. Keep up the great work Flashpoint/Godox!

      • kennie 4 months ago

        101% Agreed!
        If it´s 1 meter/3 feet than I´m okay with it. Since I already made my own extension cable which is 7 feet, I see (for myself) no problem in changing the cable by myself in this extension heads for a longer version. 🙂

        Using this extension head helps to be VERY mobile AKA Nano-light stands and ultralight boom arms. The “tight spots” is more helpful than 90% of the readers here could imagine. There is something called “mystery lights” which means you hide the light source in the picture without photoshopping it out later. To get a flashlight in very small places (e.g.: behind a steel beam, 2 feet away from the subject) up until now I used a Godox TT350. But the TT350 has a) slow recycle speed on high power b) no bare bulb option like AD200 c) around 1/5 the power of the AD200. Now you could put magnets and velcro on this ultra-leightweight extension head and if anything fails gaffer tape the thing to whatever you want. As I wrote before …only your imagination is the limit for this small/powerful TTL/HSS 200 Ws, well after cable internal resistance more like 180-150Ws, swiss-army-knive light. If they now finally bring out a ring-light (powered by one or two AD200(s) ..WOW.

      • Author
        FLASH HAVOC 4 months ago

        Hi Ricardo,

        I’ll put my guess in as the cord looks to be around 4′. Roughly enough to go from your waist to a flash bracket.

        UPDATE – Sounds like the cored is actually around 6′.

      • CAPLANNER 4 months ago

        Standard cable is 6′

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 4 months ago

      Hi kennie,

      Regarding the AD-B2, if I’m seeing things correctly it looks like only one Extension Head would connect to the back of the AD-B2 at a time unfortunatley, because of the position of where the cord attaches to the head.

      I’ve discussed a twin extension cord with Flashpoint previously, I’ll try and find out if Godox has anything planned.

      • kennie 4 months ago

        Thanks for the help boss. 🙂
        As Ricardo and I wrote …6 feet would be great to see and twin extension head would be great or make a new AD-B2 version with 6 feet cord and two connectors that go directly into those two AD200 units.
        I have wrote Godox like ten times about an extension cord and never got any reply so I build my own.
        Seeing that this product come to life is really G R E A T. 🙂

      • Bob123 4 months ago

        Yes, a “Remote” or “Extension” Twin Head (Bowens Mount) for the Flashpoint eVOLV 200! (like the AD-B2 but “remote=extension”) would be great!

  5. John Wilson 4 months ago

    If they were to produce a zoomable fresnel head that would really make things interesting.

    Any news of the ring flash head?

  6. John Wilson 4 months ago

    It looks like the tilt head has a push button locking mechanism.

  7. Andy 4 months ago

    Hmm…I am not sure this is really useful since AD200 is already small and light enough. The only thing I see if you put AD200 on light stand and raise up high, it may reduce the weight that may cause the light stand flip over. I’d rather see new better extension head for Xplor AD600. One of the pin in the extension get loose and I have to use super glue to nail it down.

    • kennie 4 months ago

      “The only thing I see if you put AD200 on light stand and raise up high, it may reduce the weight that may cause the light stand flip over.”

      ??? I use my light (speedlights, monoblocks, LED lights for video, …) 90% from above my subject so a light stand is almost always involved. The idea to use the AD200 instead of the AD600(Pro) is to use those awesome Manfrotto Nano light stands (5001B and the new Nanopole MS0490A). Those are rated for 1,5 kg max load. The AD200 including battery and without light-modifier is 925g, almost 1 kg. The head alone is 100g and to me it looks like that the extension head alone is also like 100-150g so now ask yourself again …250g VS 925g without light-modifier ..hmmm what would be the better solution? This is not a question of “may cause the light stand flip over” this is a question of using an ultra small/lightweight go-anywhere lightstand AKA Nano-lightstand or forget everything and use a large lightstand/AD600/hire an assistant. 🙂

      • Andy 4 months ago

        My light stands have been knocked down by drunk guests several times. Now I always have sand bag. You’ll never know things happens until your stuffs broken. For AD600, it’s make more sense

        • kennie 4 months ago

          If you are using larger light stands with sandbags there is no need for a extension head for the AD200. We are talking here about lightweight and portable. On a nano-stand, your camera-bag can work as a sandbag. If you need the extra power from the AD600, extension head of course. “My light stands have been knocked down by drunk guests several times.” Okay …sounds very interesting, especially for drunk people with friends that work as lawyers. What I mean by that is “get of the floor” with helpers like super clamps, magic arms and a lot of safety cables.

          • andy 4 months ago

            Yeah, I see it now. It may be a good option for me to shoot on location with lighter gear on top of light stand and small softbox.

  8. FiZ 4 months ago

    As long as I’m not losing a stop of light, I’m excited for this! I’ve got some speedlight-mount rapid boxes and such that’d be nice to use with my AD200s without having to daisy-chain adapters/brackets.

    • Michael Quack 4 months ago

      You will likely lose up to half a stop, cable and twice contact loss.

      The cable loops compared to the head adapter are approximately 4″/10cm in diameter.
      5 layers x 4″ x Pi makes around 5ft/150 cm. Perfect for me. Take my money, Godox!

      (and finally deliver that android app for the A1 controller…..)

  9. mike weeks 4 months ago

    on the UK EBay listing the cable is 1.85m so just about 6 foot 2 inches

  10. mmmfotografie 4 months ago

    It is a pity that Godox is spending time on products like this.

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 4 months ago

      Theres a lot of things Godox should have been focusing on, though I don’t think this one is a waste of time.

      I think it looks more practical than a Profoto B2 for on-camera use, and only costs $35 to anyone who already owns an EVOLV / AD200 already.

    • kennie 4 months ago

      LOL 🙂
      I can understand your comment at the bottom of my heart.
      Should we fix 99 problems we already have or build in the meantime a product which needs almost no R&D (two connector and a cable looks like a lazy Sunday morning task) but is one big “yes, we can” compared to the B2 from Sweden. 😉 We also got a Li-Ion version of the small 350 flash …for what? Faster recycle time but also double the price so ..buy two AA-version flashes for the same price and use them at 1/2 will give you faster recycle times and do not burn this small flashes (because they will get hot at full power very fast).
      I can´t tell you what we will see next, maybe a new Godox AD-S13 version which is 2 inches longer, but of course not the long expected A1 Android APP. 😀

  11. GRUBERND 4 months ago

    nice! great to remove weight from lightweight lightstands and put the main unit as a weight lower. and since the fresnel head for the AD200 has a really aweful light distribution i am looking forward to use this with the regular flashbulb.

  12. Michael Quack 4 months ago

    Ebay says mine has been shipped from the UK yesterday.
    I guess replacing the foot with a proper rapidapter will be the first thing to do.

    • John Wilson 4 months ago

      It looks to have a 3/8″ threaded hole in the cold shoe. It’s shown mounter directly on a light stand. Presumably you can just screw the adapter into the hole.

  13. Al 4 months ago

    The most practical use I can come up with is for those use flash brackets. This can offer a much lighter solution to having a bulky flash on the bracket.

  14. alberto 4 months ago

    Do you think this can be used for the ab12 bracket? I think I got the model number right.

  15. adam 4 months ago

    Just got mine in the mail. It does tilt and swivel. Seems to work ok as an on camera flash with the x1 trigger. If they made one with a shorter and thinner cable that would be ideal. (if I understand electricity right the longer the cable is the thicker it needs to be to maintain the same resistance). In some positions the cable kind of hits me in the face. And I have to loop up the rest of the wiring to put the flash body in my pocked or on a belt. Seems like a configuration I might use. Sometimes my 860s just cant keep up with the action. Also when I am doing outdoor fill flash with large group shots I would love to have more watts without the hassle of setting up stands.

    • Paul 4 months ago

      Adam, I agree. A shorter coiled cable (3 feet, 1 meter) would be ideal for handheld off-camera use, with the main unit hanging on a belt clip.

  16. adam 4 months ago

    Tested it with the adb2 and it works great.

    • kennie 4 months ago

      Thanks adam! Could you also use two EC-200 on the AD-B2?

      • Author
        FLASH HAVOC 4 months ago

        I don’t have the cords yet, so I can’t be 100% sure, though going by the images I don’t think you could attach two EC-200 to the AD-B2 at this stage, because of where the cords are located (basically in between where the two flashes mount, where there is no room for 2 cords).

        • kennie 4 months ago

          I understood that since we started this EC-200 entry, but we can not be sure if we can´t find a AD-B2 AND EC-200 owner. We need pictures. 😀

    • Vince 4 months ago

      Can you attached two of the extension cords to a AD-B2?
      Thanks

  17. mealtrip 4 months ago

    I really wish the was an extension head — exactly like this one, except — it would dead-end into a Bowens mount with a standard 5/8″ base… where you could then snap on the AD200 head just inside. I’ve measured — it would work. I know, I know — you would loose a lot of light… but sometimes you don’t need a lot of light.

    • John Wilson 4 months ago

      Doesn’t connecting it to an AD-B2 with a single bulb pretty much do just that?

      • kennie 4 months ago

        I was thinking the same. 😀
        If you need a lighter Bowens-head with a short “zoom” function of the bare-bulb, you could use the S-type Speedlite Bracket (we used that before the AD-B2 was available).

  18. Ryuji Suzuki 4 months ago

    Why doesn’t this unit have a 1/4-inch thread so that I can be attached to a bracket on a boom, a small umbrella, etc? Any weight reduction is important for boom stick work, so this product would otherwise be perfect but shoe socket is so weak that I won’t even try.

    • John Wilson 4 months ago

      There’s a threaded hole in the hotshoe you can see a photo of it mounted directly on a light stand above.

  19. Charles Fara 4 months ago

    How do you connect this to the adb2?

  20. Roland Hughes 4 months ago

    Does not work with the Adb2 sadly due to the connector cable being on the inside instead of the outside. No idea why they did it that way around. Maybe you can take it apart and turn stuff around to make it fix?

  21. Wayne 4 months ago

    Price is a bit of off when you figure in shipping. Reminds me of the old eBay scammers where they sell you something for a buck then charge outrageous shipping.

    $16 for ground snail mail shipping for a 14oz item and $27.00 for a pair shipped. I can see paying a little extra for shipping and handling but triple the cost seems like a bit of a rip off.

    I will wait for them to hit amazon I guess.

    • Andy 4 months ago

      Wayne, Where are you buying from, and shipping to?

      I’ve bought one from Link Delight with free shipping, and all the listings on ebay from China/Hong Kong, are free shipping too

  22. Eloise Speight 4 months ago

    Looks like it could potentially be used to create something akin to the Metz “Hammerhead” flash system… just need a mount to the side.

  23. Hector 3 months ago

    any release date for Adorama, BHphoto or amazon?

  24. Alberto 3 months ago

    I thought this was interesting. There is a version 2 for the twin head bracket. Now we are talking.

    https://www.adorama.com/fplfxp200d.html

    Thou, if you price everything together, a AD360 is a better and cheaper option. $400 vs $748.

    • John Wilson 3 months ago

      I don’t think it’s a new twin head bracket I think it’s a new extension cable. Presumably they have changed to remote head so the cable comes in at the side.

      • Alberto 3 months ago

        John, I did say, “for the twin head bracket” LOL

  25. Alberto 3 months ago

    I do want to add this and please pass it along to Adorama and Godox.

    I think the EC200 is a step backward. Originally the AD200 was supposed to be better than the ad360 because it eliminated the cable and battery pack. Then Godox sees more power is needed, so we get the twin head bracket which is as heavy as the ad600 and with the combo of the two ad200s it cost a bit more than the ad600, and it has less power. The only advantage was the fact you still had two separate units if needed. I gave Godox the benefit of the doubt and trusted they know what they are doing.

    Now we are getting an extension head because they see there is an apparent demand for a lighter head. Okay. Now they are doing a second version so it can fit the twin head bracket which I assume that was the reason for the extension head in the first place. I think that because the ad200 itself was light enough for a boom arm. in the end, the cable is back, but not one, but two cables and the battery pack is back, not one, but two. On top of that, we cannot see the screen now because it’s on the bottom of the unit if you clamp it to the light stand or bag it. Yes, it can be turned around, but then you lose cable length. In other words, the AD360 would be a better and cheaper option now. With the cost of the twin head setup, I can buy two ad360 setups.

    It just seems to me Godox is doing a lot of backpedaling with its current lights. I am wondering if whoever their head of P&R department is thinking on these innovations in the long term. It just seems like short-term thinking to me to solve an immediate demand. The transmitters are an excellent example of not thinking everything through. So now we have 4 transmitters to choose from, two manual and two TTL.

    That is just my opinion on the setup as a whole. I just personally do not like innovation for having something new to sell sake. It makes me feel that they think am an idiot that spends money just to have the latest and greatest. I think they should do it right once and make it great or make it even better than the original.

    • Alberto 3 months ago

      darn it, I meant to say head of R&D, not P&R. LOL

    • Andy 3 months ago

      It’s not backpeddling… it’s giving the user more options.
      I think the extension head was originally mainly for allowing you to use it on camera, (with a flash bracket or on top of an X1T), which is probably why they didn’t think of making it originally work with the AD-B2.

      It’s a cheap accessory, and will be useful to a lot of people… you won’t be forced to buy it!

      • Author
        FLASH HAVOC 3 months ago

        Yes they made it because we asked for it 🙂

        I feel the sentiment with regard to overall planning in the system though.

      • Alberto 3 months ago

        Andy, you just prove the point I was making. “why they didn’t think of making it originally work with the AD-B2”. My point was Godox should have thought of that, especially it being a essential accessory for the AD200. Sorry, but that’s backpedaling.

        I work in medical devices and with a lot of product managers. They have to foresee every possible use and capability for every new attachment or option for their products. Missing a small detail can cost hundreds of thousands.

        I just think Godox needs to improve their overall planning. Their initial goal if I remember correctly was to eliminate the cable and battery pack. That was the big deal about the AD600 and AD200. But here we are, back to the cable and battery pack. Yes, we have more options, but it seems to me that Godox takes two steps forward and then one step back.

        • kennie 3 months ago

          I´m totally with you. This is backpedaling no questions asked. Certainly you could say “they are not stupid, they just gave us another option” but that is bullsh*t. We are talking here about a company and not a small child that made his first mistake. Godox is doing this again and again …not looking back just forward and selling new products instead of fixing the old ones.

          “But here we are, back to the cable and battery pack.” You are WRONG ..totally wrong. There never was and never will be a monoblock VS. head+pack winner. If you need a small footprint and have somebody to help you …take the AD600/AD200. If you need small stands (for ultralight travel to mountain tops, by train, …) AND small BOOM-Stands you will ALWAYS take the head+pack option.

          The AD600 + extension head is a B1, AcuteB 600 and D1 500 (with power supply) all in one.
          The AD200 + extension head is a B2 and Profoto ??? A2 maybe? Watch Photokina! 😉

  26. Joel 3 months ago

    Looks like an excellent solution as a powerful, on-camera flash (200w vs 80w of a speedlight). If they added hotshoe connections for E-TTL, you could eliminate the transmitter and have even more flexibility.

    • Andy 3 months ago

      No chance of a hotshoe for TTL… the AD200 is a slave only flash. No extension head can change that.

  27. piero 3 months ago

    Im thinking the way im gonna use the ec200…gonna buy 2 of them..the new version to work with ad b2..put the batteries on the lower end of the lightstand and leave the weight i use to keep stability …im thinking with the ad200 batteries in the lower end…gonna be able to use many lightmodifiers without fear of falling off…its my idea..sorry my english….Hasta Luego!

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