FLASHPOINT R2 PRO-C / GODOX XPRO-C – TTL Transmitter Announced

 

Flashpoint have announced the very much anticipated R2 Pro / Godox XPro-C, TTL and HSS enabled transmitter unit for Canon DSLR’s, and they are available now from Adorama for $69.00.

With Nikon, Sony, Olympus/Panasonic, and Fuji versions to also roll out over the remainder of 2017.

With a large clear dot matrix LCD screen displaying all 5 groups at simultaneously, and individual dedicated groups buttons, the Pro transmitter provides a huge improvement over the previous R2 / X1 transmitter’s user interface.

Very likely the biggest improvement for users to the compatible Flashpoint & Godox 2.4GHz flash system to date.

 

SIGNIFICANT NEW FEATURES INCLUDE –

  • Large Dot Matrix LCD Screen Displaying 5 Groups
  • 5 Individual Dedicated Group Buttons
  • Display Zoom – Displays One Group Larger with More Details
  • TCM Function – TTL – CONVERT – MANUAL
  • Flash Head Zoom Control Interface – by Group
  • Modelling Light Control – by Group (Currently On /Off Only)
  • Global Adjustment of Group Power Levels (ALL Button)
  • Large Graphic Menu System with Multiple Custom Functions

 

Flashpoint R2 PRO - Godox XPro-C

 

The Pro transmitter now provides the option of working with up to 5 groups of lights – A / B / C / D / E, in a mixed Group Mode style environment, where TTL and Manual groups can be mixed together, and individual groups can easily be switched On and Off.

NOTE – Pre-2012 cameras only allow TTL in groups A, B, & C. Groups D & E are manual only.

As well as the option of controlling up to 16 Groups in Manual mode (A-F & 0-9), corresponding with the older XTR-16/s style radio receivers.

With dedicated individual group buttons, adjusting each group is now very simple, fast and intuitive.

 

 

And for people that may still prefer the XT-32 style single group display, at the press of a button the Pro transmitter provides the option of switching back and forth from multiple group display to a larger single group display showing more details.

 

Flashpoint R2 PRO - Godox XPro-C

 

FLASHPOINT R2 PRO / GODOX XPRO FEATURES

 

  • Godox / Flashpoint 2.4GHz RF Radio System
  • Range – 100m +
  • Flash Modes – ETTL / M / Multi
  • TCM – TTL – CONVERT – MANUAL
  • HSS to 1/8000th
  • Second Curtain Sync
  • FEC / FEB – 1/3rd Increments (±3 Stops)
  • FEL (Flash Exposure Lock)
  • Manual Flash – 1/256 – 1/1 Output (1/3rd Increments)
  • Global ALL Group Power Adjustment
  • Remote Flash Zoom by Group
  • Remote Modeling Light Control
  • Group Style Mode – A / B / C / D / E  (5 Groups)
  • Manual Mode – A – F & 0 – 9 (16 Groups)
  • 32 Channels
  • Wireless ID 01-99
  • Compatible with All Godox & Flashpoint 2.4GHz Flash System
  • Large Dot Matrix LCD Display with Adjustable Back Light
  • Zoom Display – Displays One Groups Larger With Details
  • Modeling flash
  • Auto Memory Function
  • AF Assist light (With an On/Off Switch)
  • Wireless Shutter Release
  • Type-C USB Port for Firmware Upgrades
  • 2.5mm Sync Port – Input & Output
  • Powered by 2 AA Batteries

 

TCM FUNCTION

Another significant feature now provided with the Pro transmitter is the new TCM function.

TCM stands for TLL – CONVERT – MANUAL.

This is Godox and Flashpoint’s version of Hybrid or Fusion TTL, where its now possible to take a shot in TTL mode to attain a correct exposure very quickly, and then at the press of a button convert those TTL power levels to now display on the transmitter as Manual power levels.

The manual power levels can then be further refined, and provide consistent exposures for further shots in the same set up and environment.

The TCM function is potentially a huge advantage for people operating in a fast paced environment, allowing a base setting to be gained very quickly without manually metering lights. Switching to manual the individual power levels can then be refined as needed, and exposures remain constant for subsequent images.

Flashpoint R2 PRO - Godox XPro-C

 

Other features include a flash Zoom control screen, and a large graphic menu with custom functions –

 

Flashpoint R2 PRO - Godox XPro-C

 

The Pro transmitter provide similar range and reliability to the original R2 and XT transmitters, and also currently use the same AF assist light, and regular screw locking foot.

 

Flashpoint R2 PRO - Godox XPro-C

 

A shutter release function is provided, as well as a Type-C USB port for firmware updates, and a 2.5mm sync port.

And the Pro transmitter is once again powered by 2 regular AA batteries.

 

Flashpoint R2 PRO - Godox XPro-C

 

FLASHPOINT R2 PRO/ GODOX XPRO SPECS

 

Flashpoint R2 PRO - Godox XPro-C

 

CUSTOM FUNCTIONS

 

Flashpoint R2 PRO - Godox XPro-C

 

 

Flashpoint R2 PRO - Godox XPro-C

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The R2 Pro / Xpro-C for Canon are available now from $69.00 –

AdoramaAmazonUK, B&H PhotoEbay

 

Flashpoint – Website

Godox – Website

Flashpoint / Godox – System Overview

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125 Comments
  1. Author
    Flash Havoc 3 months ago

    I know a lot of people are wanting to know if the Godox and Flashpoint transmitters in the post above have exactly the same features and functions, and also what has happened with the separate Flashpoint transmitter version I have mentioned previously at times.

    Firstly I’d like to say I think the Xpro and R2 Pro transmitters are a huge improvement over the X1 transmitter interface, and I think most people will feel the same after using them. And overall Godox have done a pretty decent job.

    Having said that, this is not the separate Flashpoint transmitter version we have been working on since early in the year, at this stage its basically Godox’s version of the transmitter used for the Flashpoint version as well (at least for now). And I don’t think anyone completely knows the exact fate of the original Flashpoint version right now either due to some technical issues that are still being worked through.

    So my attention has been on the original Flashpoint version transmitter, though there are certainly small functions I would like to see possibly updated with this current Godox/Flashpoint version. Though we haven’t even had the chance to get the engineers response in general on those points, so I don’t know what if any will be updated on these current versions.

    These are mainly small things, like the TCM function needs a way to revert back to TTL settings quickly so that you can take another automatic exposure quickly.

    The Zoom screen also needs a quick way to exit. And it would be very handy if double pressing the groups buttons quickly turned the groups On and Off. Even pressing the group button could scroll through modes (TTL – M – OFF) after the first press, for quick changes instead of using the separate mode button as well.

    Again the Global group adjustment (ALL) should be for manual groups only, not adjusting TTL groups FEC at the same time. These are pretty simple things we wouldn’t have let slip through in the original Flashpoint transmitter we have been working on.

    In general the current Pro transmitters are a vast improvement over the X1 interface though. And the TCM function alone should be very valuable.

    • Sandalsfootacious 3 months ago

      What’s this flash point trigger I keep hearing about?
      Is there a link to the mock design?
      I’m probably the only one that likes the blue against black lcd from the ad200, however oled would have been awesome.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 3 months ago

        Hi Sandals,

        Sorry I can’t post any designs unfortunately.

        The AD200 LCD looks great indoors, its virtually useless outside in bright light though. I’m a sucker for style over substance, though a transmitter screen you can’t see outside is a good place to draw the line 🙂

        • Sandalsfootacious 3 months ago

          Ah bummer. This new one seems more functional and quicker than the XT1. I had to reduce the groups to ABC so that I can change settings faster on the XT1.

          Wonder why no one is using oled ‍♂️

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            Flash Havoc 3 months ago

            The new Godox A1 Bluetooth transmitter appears to be stating to have an OLED LCD screen, so we should see what that is like.

  2. Darryl 3 months ago

    The TCM is especially handy feature. I know Profoto’s TTL strobes had this feature. I am assuming TCM will work with HSS?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Darryl,

      I’ll have to give that a go to be sure. I would expect it would as long as you didn’t change shutter speed / camera settings after switching to Manual levels.

      • Sandalsfootacious 3 months ago

        What’s tcm?

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      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Ok I tried this and TCM does work when using HSS.

      Its pretty incredible how this works really. The next shot in manual settings is exactly the same as the original TTL exposure.

      Edit – I also just tried the eVOLV twin head to see if that could possibly fool the TCM (with or without HSS). But no the exposures are spot on, both flashes are just set to approximately half the power of a single strobe doing the same job.

  3. Alex Valtchev 3 months ago

    When will this trigger be available to purchase? What is the expected time for a release of Nikon version? Thanks

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Alex,

      The Canon version should start becoming available in October.

      Sorry I’m not sure when the Nikon version will start, though I don’t think Godox will be wasting any time getting these out now.

      • Alberto 3 months ago

        Hopefully the timing will not be like the manual version. It took a long time for the Nikon version to be available.

  4. Tim 3 months ago

    The images make it look like this transmitter supports the old style (0.1, etc) power levels from the ad400 and strobes also? Is that the case?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Tim,

      No I don’t think so. Are you looking at the TTL groups FEC settings, + 0.3 etc?

      • Tim 3 months ago

        Yes, I realized that’s what it was after I posted. Why the heck is Godox still not adding power adjustment for those lights to the TTL triggers?

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 3 months ago

          I’m not sure, though the way Godox tend to be handling things at this stage is to provide multiple power scales built into the new MKII studio strobes with 2.4GHz receivers built-in.

          So those can at least work alongside the legacy strobes, if you do have a suitable transmitter (XT-16 etc).

          Maybe its not the ideal way to go about it, though one way or another it would be far better to move towards the one power scale system (still providing 0.3 and 0.1 increment options).

  5. the flasher 3 months ago

    I wonder if the foot will lock into the hot shoe properly?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi flasher,

      The foot should be the same as the X1 etc.

      The thumbscrew wheel is a smaller round version, which personally I think tightens down more easily than the X1 style wheels with the cutouts (which are pretty harsh on your fingers).

  6. John Wilson 3 months ago

    The SHOOT/APP setting is interesting. This implies that its going to be possible to control the flash settings from a smartphone app rather than the trigger. Does that mean that the trigger has a bluetooth interface like the A1?

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      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi John,

      There is definitely no Bluetooth built in the transmitter at this stage. Though that is something Flashpoint were possibly looking towards for their separate version.

      I think its likely to be added down the track, but it could well be some time away so I wouldn’t bank on it at this stage.

      Godox have an A1 Mini version coming as well, I think they would want to make sure they get their money back on producing those as well.

      • John Wilson 3 months ago

        That’s a pity. Adding Bluetooth hardware is pretty much a zero cost option these days. Having it in yet another piece of hardware is deeply unattractive. Another example of Godox getting it ALMOST right.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 3 months ago

          Yes, don’t worry, I said the same thing to Flashpoint.

          Its not Bluetooth that’s been the issue, though the Flashpoint transmitter could have been out now as well if we gave into Godox’s typical pattern of doing things almost right.

          (The Godox transmitter has a slightly different configuration, so it dodged the same challenge we are having).

          • John Wilson 3 months ago

            Hardware bluetooth support is only half of the story. Godox need to publish the bluetooth protocol so that the lights can be controlled from a laptop. Then you can shoot tethered, view the image and and tweak the lighting from the same device. They need to get ahead of the game before someone reverse engineers the bluetooth protocol.

      • John Wilson 3 months ago

        Thinking about it I discover that I don’t understand the SHOOT/APP setting at all!

        One-shoot leaves the M & Multi flash settings alone but does the TTL magic with the camera (fires low power flash, gets the metering result from the camera, sets the levels of the TTL flashes).

        Full-shoot sets all the levels + TTL before firing the flashes.

        That’s OK and makes sense.

        But APP claims only to trigger the flashes. The levels are set by the smartphone app in some way. It implies that the TTL is handled elsewhere (otherwise it’s exactly like One-shoot). But you CAN’T do TTL remotely because you need to get the camera to give you the required settings and only the on shoe trigger can do that.

        The only thing I can think is that there’s going to be a bluetooth enabled box that sits on the hotshoe with the trigger in a hotshoe on top of that. But that makes no sense because you might as well let the bluetooth box trigger the flashes and dispense with the XPro altogether.

        Colour me confused 🙂

        • Andy 3 months ago

          There’s no ‘box’ for the hotshoe… you just need the A1 flash.
          The ‘App’ setting in this custom function, is the same as the one just recently added to the X1 via firmware.
          So the trigger (X1 or XPro) will ONLY fire the light, and any power level changes made on the trigger wont affect the flashes. You use the app to control the power level changes.

          • Author
            Flash Havoc 3 months ago

            Yes, that function also provides the simple dumb transmitter option people have been wanting for other purposes as well.

            It fires the slave flashes, though does not send any power level changes etc to the slave flashes.

            • Andy 3 months ago

              So I read the ‘Shoot’ custom function with the options of’one-shoot’, ‘full shoot’, and APP, as a combination of the recent custom functions 08 and 09 that were added to the X1.

              So the one-shoot option is for normal use with one trigger on one camera.
              The full-shoot option is for multiple users with more than one master transmitter controlling a set of flashes.
              The APP option is to disable any sending of power levels, when using the App and A1

              Can you confirm those?

          • John Wilson 3 months ago

            Hi Andy!

            So in the APP mode the trigger interrogates the flashes to find out which are configured as TTL. It then does the TTL magic for those flashes but leaves the other settings alone. That makes sense!

            If that’s what happens then I don’t really need a phone app + A1. I can use an XT32 or another XPro to configure the lights and the on camera XPro to fire the flashes. Handy if the camera is not easily accessible. It would be nice to have an XT32 firmware update which added this mode so I could put the XT32 on the camera and use the XPro as a hand held controller. This is how you can use the Paul C Buff Cyber Commander with the CyberSync trigger.

            • Andy 3 months ago

              We just posted around the same time. I posted above what I thought the options in the ‘shoot’ custom function were for. Maybe Flash Havoc (or anyone) can confirm

              • John Wilson 3 months ago

                I think the difference may be that in the Shoot functions the changes to the settings on the trigger change the settings on the flashes (in one-shoot the changes happen immediately, in group-shoot that are set every time just before the flashes are fired). In APP mode the changes on the trigger are ignored (possibly the display changes to reflect that)

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                  Flash Havoc 3 months ago

                  Yes in APP mode the transmitter screen is basically blank, only showing the word APP in the center.

  7. mmmfotografie 3 months ago

    Your wrote: The TCM function is potentially a huge advantage for people who prefer to work in manual, though in a fast paced environment have limited time to be constantly setting up and manually metering lights.

    This is a bit funny because the people that like to work in manual saved money by buying the non-TTL version.

    I would turn this around and would write instead:

    The TCM function is a huge advantage for people who prefer to work in TTL to have a base setting to work from in manual mode. From this base setting they can start fine-tuning the individual flash group settings to have more depth in the pictures by working with lights and shadow.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      That is a good point, though not everyone has purchased their lights yet 🙂

      So its something to think about now even if you don’t normally like TTL very much. (I have edited the post though).

      Maybe it was a blessing in disguise the AD200 do not come in manual versions 🙂

  8. Ganesh 3 months ago

    There is Any chances to change THE Ad200 led(AD-L) ‘s power setting. Here mention that only on off modelling lamp.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Ganesh,

      I think for any modelling light remote power level control the slave flashes will need firmware updates to accommodate that function from the transmitter.

      So I’m not actually sure at this stage what Godox’s plan is there. They had agreed earlier on that modelling light remote power level control was needed, so that’s something I haven’t followed up at this stage.

  9. MDV 3 months ago

    What’s not to love??
    Was going to buy a second X1 as a backup but this will be much better.
    Very happy about that TCM feature I’ve been requesting this ever since I bought their system.
    While the X1 works well it was just a bit clunky to use, this will be much easier and faster to make adjustments.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi MDV,

      Well again I can’t say too much, though the version we designed has arguably more convenient group button positioning, as well as more buttons for direct access to most functions etc.

      Godox have already started putting 2 completely different functions in one button (TCM & Display Zoom) because they ran out of buttons already. We had enough of that with the X1.

      As well as some new and previous functions Godox were completely apposed to including. The current Xpro has dropped the X1 and XT-32 pre-sync timing delay setting for example.

  10. Jesse Patterson 3 months ago

    So, let me get this straight, if we want the best version of the Flashpoint R2 pro, should we wait or is the better version already ready to pre-order? I’m just wondering because I’d rather wait a little bit to get the best trigger if possible. Also, Flashpoint is $10 more than the version Amazon will be selling according to this article: http://www.diyphotography.net/leaked-godox-xpro-trigger-photo-teases-huge-lcd-interface-lots-buttons/

    I’ll pay extra for the refinements.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Jesse,

      At this stage the Godox XPro and Flashpoint R2 Pro are basically the same.

      And any updates in the near future will very likely be firmware related only. And its much more likely than not that both units would be updated the same way simply to avoid additional firmware.

      The original Flashpoint transmitter version I have mentioned would have to be considered a separate possible prospect for the future at this point. Right now there are still some issues to work through so its unknown just yet which direction that may possibly take.

      Yes Flashpoint appear to be charging $10 more than the minimum Ebay and Amazon price etc. The one thing I would say though (apart from the Adorama warranty and customer service advantages) is that the new transmitter would not currently exist in any form if it was not for Flashpoint convincing Godox it was necessary. And that alone took a lot of convincing.

      To put it into perspective we have also tried unsuccessfully for nearly 2 years to convince Godox they need to improve their master speedlite. I’ve personally had to give up on that (after wasting god knows how many countless hours). Though thankfully they have some competition coming soon which will hopefully finally make them see the light there as well.

      .

      UPDATE – Flashpoint have corrected the R2 Pro Transmitter pricing to $69.

      All existing pre-orders will be updated to $69 as well.

  11. Darryl 3 months ago

    “To put it into perspective we have also tried unsuccessfully for nearly 2 years to convince Godox they need to improve their master speedlite.”

    Are you talking about the V860II? Curious what improvements you thought were needed?

    • Wayne 3 months ago

      I think the base is trash. It should be made of metal instead of plastic. You know its bad when the vendors are selling a “User replaceable hot shoe” because it breaks so often.
      Others dont like the way the head tilts.

      Dont get me wrong I LOVE my V860ii, but it has some quirks

      • Andy 3 months ago

        That’s just the sony version. Canon and Nikon versions have a metal foot.

        But anyway I think they were just talking about the ‘master flash’ aspect of it.

      • Dan W 2 months ago

        Plastic is the way to go. It might seem obvious to want metal for a rigid product but think about this, if you drop, bump, swing etc your camera with trigger attached nd it hits the trigger, what do you want to break first? Your trigger shoe or the camwra shoe?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Darryl,

      Yes the V860II are the top Godox speedlite model at this stage (though the TT685 have basically the same functions).

      I know a lot of people are quite happy with them, though at the same time there are a lot of wedding photographers coming from original Canon and Nikon etc speedlites, and find them just too much of a step backward.

      And that’s preventing them moving completely into the Godox system when the off camera strobes are otherwise very good, AD200 / AD600 etc.

      There are a whole list of small functional issues that have never been addressed, you can read about some in the TT685N and V860II comments etc.

      There are also practical issue that have never been addresses, like simply the sticky grease used in the tilt swivel head causes a lot of stress and failures on the flash foot if you’re not careful.

      The AF assist light is also not up to the Canon / Nikon standard, and another fundamental thing is they can not anywhere near keep up with the Canon / Nikon heat protections limits.

      I don’t expect Godox are going to be as refined and sophisticated as Canon and Nikon etc any time soon (and its good to keep it simple anyway), but I have been suggesting for a number of years that they look at the Nissin MG800 extreme as a way forward in exceeding the speed and heat protection Canon and Nikon offer.

      Nissin themselves realise that. (And theres even a flash coming next week from Profoto which may start to finally shake things up).

      • Dan W 2 months ago

        Well I have 3 canon 600 EXRT flashes with canons trigger. I paid $600 each when they were new. Bought a couple of the flashpoint TTL LION and haven’t used my canon since. Did a power test using my trusty Seconik 358 and found it to be almost identical depending on zoom setting. Worst case 0.2 stops difference. I also sold my AB Einstein’s and vagabonds for the more confident flashpoint xplor 600 for the convince of on board power and TTL when doing run and gun shoots. Plus I can use the 600 for main and my speedlights as a fill and kicker and control everything from camera.

        I suppose I could nicpic the Godox/Flashpoint apart but it does everything I could expect and need. As a bonus, the LiOn on the speedlights kills the need for my to carry an external battery during events. No brainer.

  12. Craig 3 months ago

    Looks pretty cool and for a reasonable price!

  13. Ricardo Gomez 3 months ago

    Great upgrade! I never liked that R1. The R1 was too big and clunky looking. I’d use it if there are no other options. But this R2 brings a lot of refinement that the system needed. The R1 looks totally out of place with the new gear.

    I keep reading.. “It took a lot of convincing for Godox….” I think Godox has to decide: be ANOTHER Chinese provider of cheap lighting gear OR be a provider of quality lighting gear at a competitive price.

    Recently, I think they’ve been doing the latter. Really impressive gear and a real system us m43 types can invest in. But it seems they still have a bit of soul searching to do. Not doing an R2 because the R1 ‘works well enough’ is not good enough. I also understand that it probably cost them $200k+ or more to design, prototype and manufacture a batch.

    But this is a long term investment. The R2 is now inline with the rest of the gear in terms of refinement, usability and style. The whole system will become that much more appealing to the pro-am and pro markets. I think the trigger sort of sets the tone for an entire system.

    I’ll be waiting anxiously for the m43 version!

  14. Jim Lafferty 3 months ago

    The shoe is plastic – just like with Pocket Wizards – so that in the event you drop your camera, the transmitter breaks and not your camera’s hotshoe housing.

  15. deejjjaaaa 3 months ago

    and apparently with the same firmware bug for Sony TTL … 9 month and counting.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      That’s just a free bonus thrown in for A7R II owners 🙂

    • The Doc 3 months ago

      It is the Canon model on sale, so what you say is false.

      Save it for when the Sony model comes out and the fault is there then, in some months at a guess.

  16. exkeks 3 months ago

    Is that the previously rumored X2 controller? Or are we going to see another (hopefully smaller) unit?

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      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      He exkeks,

      Yes this is the Godox X2, they just changed the name to XPro near the end of development.

      There won’t be a smaller unit because the overall size was determined by the LCD screen size (and the options there were pretty limited for what was needed).

      I think the new Pro transmitter sits more nicely on my Sony A7 than the XT-32 though (which is otherwise a bit smaller, though sits pretty upright above the camera).

  17. Michael Quack 3 months ago

    Wonderful news, Godox take my money!
    And while you are at it – redesign the back of the AD200 with a brighter display illumination and add some small rails, so one can put the device upright on the ground without accidentally pushing a button.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Michael,

      The Flashpoint silicon skins allow you to sit the flash upright on its end.

      Its considerably more stable than I thought, thought like that you could push it over quite easily.

      A small but slightly wider plastic base stand the flash could slot into would be a safer option.

  18. Felipe 3 months ago

    The X1 had very cheap plastic over the display that scratched extremely easily. Has the display cover been improved? Thanks!

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      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Felipe,

      I’m really not sure about that. To be honest I didn’t even realize the X1 screen was more prone to scratches than others. Most transmitters and speedlites all have plastic LCD screens.

      I’ve only recently taken the protective plastic film off the screen on the sample I have, to add a few screen shots to the post above. So I can’t really tell if its scratching easily yet. I have wiped it a number of times with no issues yet.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 3 months ago

        You have taken the protective plastic film off your X1 display haven’t you?

        (Its actually not uncommon that people don’t realize there is a plastic film over the flash or trigger LCD’s).

  19. Mark Kitaoka 3 months ago

    Can’t wait to buy one.

  20. Author
    Flash Havoc 3 months ago

    UPDATE – Flashpoint have corrected the R2 Pro Transmitter pricing to $69.

    All existing pre-orders will be updated to $69 as well

  21. Alex Valtchev 3 months ago

    Will the Nikon version and all others look/work exactly the same? Or would be there different interface. Shanny did such thing which I find very unpleasant!

    We NIkon users were hoping for Sn-E3-Rt feel/look design and easy of use, instead got the SN910TX which is no way near as good or comfortable to work with. And on top of that is buggy. Hope Godox does not do such thing!

    • John Wilson 3 months ago

      The X1-T and XT32 triggers have identical functionality over all camera versions (with the exception that there are some camera specific custom functions). There would seem to be no reason why this will also be true with this trigger.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Alex,

      Yes the Nikon, Sony, M4/3 and Fuji versions will be the same.

      Though I don’t know how they will handle 5 groups in the main screen where TTL and Manual groups can be mixed. Its possible the Nikon and other version may only allow groups A, B, & C to be assigned to TTL mode like with the current X1 transmitters.

      • Alex Valtchev 3 months ago

        Why would only Canon support 5 groups and Nikon and the rest only 3… its hardware + software both made by Godox. Its a simple written code. In my opinion as long as there is big enouigt display there should be 999+ groups aka unlimited… its a simple software limitation, but flash photography has overgrown the days of the past and the need for more groups for all systems, not only Canon.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 3 months ago

          For manual groups it may only be replicating a simple written code, though for TTL it can be much different.

          The Canon system actually meters each group individually in TTL, so each flash sends out its own pre-flash separately. Where other transmitters (possibly many or them), cut corners and just meter one group and divide the exposure up between all the groups.

          So with Canon RT, the protocol is already written to allow 5 TTL groups (in GR group mode).

          And other systems which have transferred the old Canon Optic Wireless to radio like the YongNuo YN-622C, have not been able to go beyond 3 TTL groups, because Yongnuo at least are still doing things correctly as Canon originally set, and metering each group separately.

          I don’t know the full details on how Nikon, Sony, Fuji etc work, though originally they generally only provide 3 remote TTL groups as well. So its pretty likely Godox may have to keep following that as well.

          .

          If using the R2 Pro / XPro-C Canon transmitter now with a pre-2012 Canon cameras, only groups A, B, & C, can be set to TTL, and D & E are manual only. So there is a very good chance that is the way the transmitter will work with the coming Nikon, Sony, etc versions as well.

          • Alex Valtchev 3 months ago

            pre-2012 does that include Nikon D600 and D4 ? I dont usually go for 5 groups TTL, its 99% all manual, and only the master flash on camera that I use as TTL but still… Lets wait and see how things are gonna work. :/

            • Author
              Flash Havoc 3 months ago

              Sorry, I was referring to pre-2012 Canon cameras there. Its only Canon that has the difference between pre and post 2012 cameras.

              Though the Nikon etc R2 / XPro transmitter are very likely to be the same as the Canon transmitter is with pre-2012 cameras (only groups A, B, & C, can be set to TTL, and D & E are manual only).

  22. stefj 3 months ago

    How do i trig other dumb triggers without the hotshoe on top?

    • John Wilson 3 months ago

      You could use the Xi-T rather than this. I think this trigger complements the X1-T rather than replaces it. However if you need the XPro to trigger another trigger then set SYNC to OUT and use a sync cord.

      • stefj 3 months ago

        Yes but i Ohly have one hotshoe on My 5dmk iv. I add a pocket wizard. Can this trig pocket wizard?

        • John Wilson 3 months ago

          Two options:
          1/ run a sync cable from the XPro to the pocket wizard’s camera sync socket.
          2/ run a sync cable from the 5D’s sync socket to the pocket wizard’s camera sync socket.

          (actually there’s a 3rd Buy a X1R-C, put the pocket wizard on that and trigger the X1R-C from the XPro – I wouldn’t recommend this it’s expensive and complicated)

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 3 months ago

          Yes this is the reason Godox will continue the X1 transmitter,

          Its a pity they don’t update the interface on that with a dot matrix LCD screen as well.

          (So more functions could be accessed more easily through a graphic menu etc).

  23. Abid 3 months ago

    Hello,

    can I trigger the streaklight and the Rovelight with this transmitter?

    Thanks

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Abid,

      The Streaklights are compatible, but the RoveLights use a different radio system.

      If you’re referring to the original RoveLight then you would be better of stacking the RoveLight transmitter on top of an X1 / R2 transmitter on the camera.

      If you really wanted to use the new R2 Pro transmtitter, then you could attach an X1R receiver to the Rovelight via sync cord just to fire the strobe.

      With the new ORLIT RoveLights you would be better off using the ORLIT transmitters on camera, and attaching an RT-611 / 612 to the Streaklight via sync cord to fire that.

  24. John Wilson 3 months ago

    Spec on the Godox site says it’s a Type C USB port not a Micro USB port

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Thanks John.

      Maybe the Type-C are more reliable then? (Godox have certainly had some issues previously with firmware updates and cords / ports etc).

      Edit – the new Godox A1 are using the Type-C USB port as well, so Godox may have changed to this as standard now.

  25. sdf 3 months ago

    Are this transmitter only available under flashpoint brand? Not godox? Are they compatible with godox?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi sdf,

      Yes the transmitter in the post is available from Godox as the XPro-C, and from Flashpoint as the R2 Pro for Canon.

      They are both fully compatible with each others flash system.

      Most of the gear is currently the same other than the branding, and Flashpoint often offering nice carry cases etc with their larger strobes. So Flashpoint R2 system and Godox X system are fully compatible.

  26. Alex_M 3 months ago

    I use X1T-C to trigger GODOX TT685C or AD360c II that sits on top of the Promediagear Boomerang flash bracket frequently. XPRO-C trigger is so large that it won’t fit under the bracket.
    Can the head of the trigger be tilted forward to horisontal position or not?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Alex,

      Sorry no, you can’t change the transmitter angle, you may have to stick with the X1T-C in that case.

      You had me thinking now how Profoto were suggesting to do it, though now I see they don’t actually have their transmitter on the camera in the image.

      Somehow you would need to move the bracket forward to sit in front of the transmitter.

      It may be worth mentioning this to Promediagear. If they don’t have a solution now they may want to look into one, as this is likely to be one of the most commonly used transmitters.

    • Michael C 2 months ago

      You could take the transmitter off of the hot shoe and connect it to the hot shoe via an off-camera hot shoe cord. I’ve used an off-camera hot shoe cord to connect a YN622C-TX to the camera when it is up high overhead on a tripod and I can’t see the top of the camera without climbing a ladder.

    • Hung 2 months ago

      You can add an extender (http://www.promediagear.com/FCMR-Flash-Cord-Mount-Raiser-Extender_p_274.html) which you can put XPRO-C trigger.

  27. Author
    Flash Havoc 3 months ago

    Some people have been asking what the TCM function is like when mixing different flash units together, so I spent the afternoon trying to work through this.

    Firstly the TCM works like a dream when using the same strobes, I don’t think there is any need to set the TCM custom function to match the strobes used if they are the same.

    Mixing different strobes though is not generally so great. The manual conversion is still within half a stop of the TTL exposure, though within that range your ratio could be heading the wrong way to what you were trying to achieve (and the overall exposure up or down).

    I was running through the TCM custom function settings trying to see what affect they have. And they do change the results, though it was hard to see what the right setting is meant to be.

    I did find though mixing a V860II with an AD600B, and setting the TCM custom function to prioritize 600j produced pretty much the right conversion. So I would assume from that prioritizing the larger strobe is they way the custom function is generally meant to work.

    Mixing the AD200 and AD600B however non of the options (200j, 600j, or selecting neither of those) would give a correct conversion. So it looks like its going to vary depending on the gear used.

    The transmitter firmware could well have also changed by now (whether there is any update to the TCM though I don’t know).

    As mentioned the conversion is still within half a stop, so it could possibly still be useful to get rough base setting quickly to refine from. Though its not nearly as nice as using the same strobes, or a combination that does give a correct conversion straight off.

    I can see some complaining coming though, particularly for people that don’t happen to have 2 of the same strobes to at least see how nicely this can work. I would be scratching my head as well if in that situation.

    • Andy 3 months ago

      Cool, so you have a unit to test now?

      That sounds like it’s working well.

      A couple of other things I was curious about.

      I presume there is no way to switch from speedlight scale (1/128 -1/1) to ‘studio strobe’ scale (1.0 -10.0 etc.)?… you can’t hold the set button like the XT32?

      If you are viewing one group only, do the group buttons at the side switch between the groups?
      And in single group mode, does turing the dial change power immediately, or is there another button press required?

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 3 months ago

        Hi Andy,

        Yes I have a sample here, though I don’t know how much the firmware may have possibly updated by now.

        No there is no alternative power scales in this unit. I don’t know Godox’s reasoning for leaving it out, other than possibly wanting to standardize the power scale moving forward.

        Yes the side group buttons change groups in the single group display mode. You can also press the Gr button now shown in the menu bar a the base of the LCD screen, and spin the dial to scroll through the groups.

        Yes spinning the dial instantly changes the power level in single group display mode.

        From the beginning I was really hoping for the same for the 5 group display mode as well. So like the YN-622C-TX one group is basically always selected, and turning the dial would adjust that instantly. But that would have caused some issues with the way Godox have implemented things now, and its still very quick to adjust as it is, so it wasn’t worth arguing that point. Either press the group button, and spin the dial, or press the SET button and spin the dial to adjust the group used last.

        • Andy 3 months ago

          Thanks for that.

          I’m pretty happy with the way it seems to work. ‘multi group view’ or ‘single group view’ should both be easier and more intuitive than either the X1 or XT32

          It is slightly odd, that it is a replacement for the XT32, but cannot switch scales.
          But I suppose like you said, they want to move to one standard scale…. and all their new ‘mark ii’ studio strobes have the speedlight scale now too.
          So they would rather people buy those strobes, and they’ll phase out the old strobes and scales.

          I just means I’ll being definitely hanging on to my XT32 for my DE300’s!

          • Author
            Flash Havoc 3 months ago

            Yes its far better than the X1, and preferable to the XT-32 I think.

            I think they should have still labeled the group buttons A, B, C, D, E, so its a little more obvious still, though regular users will know them by feel in a short time anyway.

            Overall far more enjoyable to use the system with a number of lights now.

    • John Wilson 3 months ago

      Did you have the different devices in the same group or in different groups?

      I presume the camera you were using fires the preflash for different groups separately?

  28. andy 3 months ago

    I just pre-order one from Adorama. I’d like the idea of separate button for group so that I can quickly to operate, especially during the wedding reception.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Sorry I should have explained the set up better. Yes I had the different flashes set to different groups.

      I was using the Canon 6D, because if the 5DIV was showing these issues I would have suspected the camera may be the cause and swapped cameras pretty soon anyway.

      The set up to try and see whats going on is basically a V card (or even a box) with the point / corner facing the camera, and one light to either side. So the camera sees 2 surfaces that are only lit completely separately by each light, though both lights also spill over on the background where they do overlap.

      Camera is focused and metering on center of the V point (or box corner) so its metering a little bit of both the 2 surfaces (not the combined background).

      If it makes it any clearer though, the TTL metering is not the issue at all, that works as you would expect, regardless of the mix of lights. Its just the conversion to manual settings that has some difficulty when mixing lights.

      So you get a nice TTL exposure, then TCM to manual levels, and take another shot with those manual settings and compare that back to the original TTL exposure to see what the difference is. And using mixed strobes it can be a good 1/2 a stop out, and with one of the 2 surfaces up to 1/2 a stop different to the other as well. Using the same strobes it pretty much spot on.

      I’m not sure if there are pre-flashes going for each group or not. That would be great to know, but how can you tell? I don’t have an oscilloscope to see exactly whats happening unfortunately. (The flash duration meters I have now have been a revaluation into some of the things going on with various lights, though they don’t always show the pre-flashes).

      • John Wilson 3 months ago

        That is indeed odd. You’d think it would be simple for the trigger to just remember the instantaneous settings sent to each flash and use those when the TCM button was pressed.

        It’s interesting that the two surfaces are not equally under/over exposed. This suggests that one of the flashes is in some way dominant and influences the amount of light emitted by the other. I wonder if changing the TCM setting changes the flash which is dominant. Also swapping the position of the two flashes would to confirm that it’s the type of flash that is the source of the effect rather than the position (unlikely that it’s the position of course but it’s worth eliminating the possibility)

  29. qliq 3 months ago

    Used TCM with mixed WS units. R2 Pro C on camera. ZoomLi-on, XPLOR600TTL, Streaklight360TTL and eVOLV200TTL off camera. All at the same time.
    While the results revealed the beauty of stabilizing exposure (TTL to M), it also showed the genius built into this transmitter to be able to sense and transmit correct information to multiple flashes despite the output differences.
    Sweet.

  30. Jaap 3 months ago

    Sure hope that the af beam on this one doesn’t appear on the photos, like it does on all other godox products. It shouldn’t be to hard in my opinion, just code: ‘if trigger is active, then kill af beam’. Please godox fix this as it is a real deal breaker to see all my wedding photos with your af pattern on the faces.

  31. zipfake 3 months ago

    Just a heads up, Adorama now lists a nikon version.

    https://www.adorama.com/fprrr2pron.html

  32. Darryl Jones 3 months ago

    The amazon link has the Xpro-c available on Oct 16 and the Xpro-n available on Oct 29th

  33. Jeff M 2 months ago

    Will this transmitter support the 5.0 – 8.0 power numbering that the QS series strobes use? What about mixing them with the 1/128 speedlight scale? I currently use the XT32 with QS300 and TT600, but I would love to upgrade.

    • Andy 2 months ago

      No, it looks like it won’t have those strobe (decimal) scales at all. Which is why I’ll be keeping my XT32 too.

      I think their reasoning is that the new strobes (mark ii’s), all have speedlight scales now, so they want you to use those strobes. The XT16 or XT32 are still required for the mark i strobes

  34. John Wilson 2 months ago

    The Xpro-C manual is now available for download here http://www.godox.com/EN/InstructionManual/Godox_XproC_20171009.pdf

  35. Martin 2 months ago

    Do you know if Godox have any plans to give this trigger a thumb lock like the canon 600 EX RT speedlights have.

    • Scoob 2 months ago

      No, it gets the pain in the arse clamp wheel.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 2 months ago

        The thumb wheel is at least much easier to use than the X1, and even a bit better than the XT-32 because the base of the transmitter is smaller making it easier to access the wheel. The wheel is also round (no indents) which is not as harsh on your fingers 🙂

        Godox haven’t engineered any lever lock style foot as yet, and in the past they have mentioned legal issues as at least part of the reason for that. Which is probably true just in the sense that they can’t simply copy exactly what Canon etc have done (and they are not great at engineering things like this themselves).

        As I’ve mentioned previously though, just getting a new transmitter took a lot of convincing to start with. So insisting on a lever lock foot would have ruled out any chance of it happening in the near future.

  36. Dean Cohen 2 months ago

    Is it possible to use a Godox X1C receiver to control Canon speedlights using the new xPro trigger? similar to the Yongnuo 622 system.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 months ago

      Hi Dean,

      Yes, the XPro-C should control the X1R-C receivers (with Canon Speedlite attached) just like the X1T-C transmitter does.

  37. sabin 2 months ago

    too bad they left out the old scale…was hoping for xt32 replacement as i don’t like it because you can’t change settings quickly

  38. Seamless Media 1 month ago

    Looks like my Flashpoint version should arrive Wednesday! I’m wondering which flashes/strobes in the system will be firmware updateable to utilize the new 4 digit ID system introduced with this controller.
    On a side note, when viewing this site on my mobile device (android chrome browser) I am getting malware popup ads hijacking the page from “Reward Center” Fake “Amazon/Walmart” Wondering if anyone else has experienced this.

  39. Bartek 1 month ago

    Why godox don’t give more group buttons- only 5 -sometimes I have 8-10 lights in seperate groups.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Bartek,

      You can also use up to 16 groups if you’re happy with all manual groups.

      Once you go over 5 groups the menu bar buttons at the base of the Xpro LCD screen allow the page to scroll. Then the side group buttons also still activate the current groups shown on the LCD screen.

      Currently using the all 16 groups may require the XTR-16/s receivers attached to the strobes though. I would imagine over time Godox would add the 16 manual groups directly to the strobes in-built receivers.

  40. Seamless Media 1 month ago

    Received my R2 PRO C today. Looks great! Here are some first impressions/suggestions to improve the functionality/intuitiveness of operation.
    – Holding the TCM button converts all the ETTL groups to corresponding manual values, however if you wish to revert to ETTL and try again, you have to individually change each group back to ETTL. It would be nice if holding the TCM button again would change all the previously converted groups back into ETTL Mode.
    – Alternatively and additionally: When selecting the “ALL” function that allows you to adjust all groups power levels/FEC, it would be nice if pressing the “Mode” button would change/cycle all the groups through ETTL-Manual-Off. This would solve the first problem as well as let us quickly change all the group modes at once.
    – After pressing the individual group button on the side, in order to deactivate the selection you have to press the “Set” button. It would be nice if just pressing that group button a second time would confirm any value changes made and return to the normal state. The reason this is desirable is because while the group is selected, the main function items (zm sync all mod) disappear and are replaced by functions to move up or down the groups, and will not become available again until the set button is pressed. When using only the 5 group mode these up and down functions are unnecessary anyway, and would be better used as functions to directly choose the currently selected group’s mode (dedicated ETTL – M – Off functions buttons)
    – Another suggestion, how about a long press on the individual side group buttons to do a TCM conversion for just that group, allowing you to convert just one or a couple groups using the last exposure, while leaving other ETTL groups in ETTL Mode.
    Hope this helps! Despite any of these small things, this controller is a huge step up In usability.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Thanks Seamless. As I mentioned in the first comment there are some obvious quirks which I certainly hope we will rectify in the separate Flashpoint version of the transmitter still to come, and hopefully then Godox will see that it makes sense to update their current version as well.

      These things are going to keep coming up though so maybe Godox may listen earlier. The TCM most definitely needs a way to revert back to TTL quickly.

  41. Allen Gambrell 1 month ago

    I got my R2 Pro yesterday also and have some of the same concerns / ideas.

    TCM back to TTL
    The TCM seemed to work, but it is a big hassle to change the lights back to TTL. This needs to be as quick as as it is to do the TCM. With 3 lights this will take a long time and a lot of concentration away from your subject. I also have Profoto lights and this is the best feature of them, but without a quick way to switch back to ttl, it becomes far less useful.

    Mode – Multi Mode ?
    When you are at the main screen with all the lights shown, pressing the mode button does something with Multi mode. This is useless, I have never had to use a flash in multi mode. It seems like all the designers from godox must use it all the time, with how prominent it is in all there flashes. This could be used to change the mode for all the groups back to ttl.

    Channel Change
    On the main screen the button under the screen on the far left is set to control “CH/Zm”. No one needs to be changing the channel that fast during a shoot the CHannel control should be a long press under “SYNC”. The channel should not be that easy to change because you could mistakenly hit it as it is.

    Zoom Lights
    I tried using the controller to change the zoom of a remote 685C speedlight. It would not change. The light would stay on the manual setting set on the flash. Am I missing something?

    Screen Tilt
    I wish the screen was not tipped on a 45 degree. You have to drop the camera way down to be able to read it. It would have been better if the screen was almost strait up or just a little tip.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Thanks Allen.

      As mentioned on POTN, the screen tilt is actually 30 degrees, and I’ve found that the best compromise. At 45 degrees it would sit higher again on the camera, which people complain about. Likewise if it was close to horizontal. Godox actually followed our Flashpoint design on that point.

      TCM, Modes, and Channel/Zoom I’ve already mentioned, and again hopefully Godox will update these if we change them in the coming Flashpoint transmitter first. If they don’t otherwise hopefully see the light earlier.

      The Zoom function appears to be working correctly with my V860IIC and TT350s. It appears the flash needs to be set to Auto Zoom mode, so maybe that’s what you’re missing there?

  42. Chuck QC 1 month ago

    Just received my X Pro from Adorama. The wireless shutter release does not work properly. I have an X1 receiver with a shutter release cord in the 2.5mm port and connected to a camera (6D). It will trigger the flash and then a second or 2 later the shutter trips.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Chuck,

      You can’t use the same transmitter to trip the camera shutter and slave flashes at the same time. Because there is a varying delay time in different camera shutters.

      So you need to have one set of transmitter and receiver used for the shutter release alone.

      And then if you want to fire slave flashes as well, you need a second transmitter mounted on the camera hotshoe, and that transmitter and slave flashes need to be set to a different channel than the triggers used for the shutter release.

      .

      Having said all that, while testing this I do see a bug in the R2 Pro / Xpro shutter release. For some reason its not focusing completely on the half press of the transmitter test fire button. Where the X1T is working correctly.

      (Though auto focusing is generally not an ideal thing to be doing when using a remote shutter release anyway).

  43. Mark Kitaoka 1 month ago

    I’ve written a short initial article about the Flashpoint R2 Pro C. You can read my findings here:
    http://www.markkitaoka.com/latest-news/flashpoint-r2-pro-c/

    • Jeffrey 1 month ago

      Hi Mark.
      Read your review and i think you did a good job. Looking at the 2 triggers in your pics i have to admit that maybe the xpro should not be slanted so much but maybe had a feature that would have allowed it to bend between30°and 40° i also think that multi mode, zooming of speedlights and the ch button should be in sub menus. Thanks flashhavoc.
      Still listening to here about the adorama version and has anybody heard of the rumors about a new ad600? Read it somewhere this week.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 1 month ago

        Hi Jeffrey,

        The Flashpoint transmitter is still coming along nicely. I still don’t know about time frames though unfortunately. For various reasons the physical body of the unit is only just being finalized again at them moment, though it is possible things could move quite fast from there, or they may not, I can’t really be sure.

        Yes there is a higher spec version of the AD600 to be announced somewhere around the end of the year. It will be priced higher and so the current AD600 will still be available as well. I don’t know the details, though its designed to address the shortcomings of the current model, so its not too hard to guess the likely upgrades.

        It would be nice if the Flashpoint transmitter was available around the same time, though again I don’t know if that will happen. The great thing is they should have a killer set up available soon enough.

  44. ARCANGELO LIGATO 4 weeks ago

    any of you tried to see if the x pro works with the 1ds markII canon, will it be compatible?

  45. Mark Kitaoka 4 weeks ago

    I have updated my findings of the Flashpoint R2ProC from actual usage.
    http://www.markkitaoka.com/latest-news/flashpoint-r2-pro-c/

  46. domenico raffa 3 weeks ago

    Hello everybody.
    I was trying the new TCM function on my X-PRO N and my Nikon D4s: well, it is NOT running!
    I got the message M 1/128th which is clear that that’s NOT correct.
    Any of you experienced he same issue?
    Thank you so much

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 weeks ago

      Hi Domenico,

      If you see the XPro-N comments here, this is a (recently) know issue.

  47. Jesse Patterson 1 week ago

    I’m not sure if anyone noticed however, Godox has a firmware update that switches the zoom function from the long press to the short press. I’m glad we have progress on one of the quirks that bothered me.

    http://www.godox.com/EN/Download.html

  48. Jesse Patterson 1 week ago

    I forgot to mention this in the last comment however, I see that in order to control the zoom of my V860II flashes from either the Godox XPro-C or the X1T-C, I’ll need to leave the flashes in auto-zoom. Since the manual-only speedlites don’t have auto-zoom, does that mean I can’t adjust the zoom from the Godox Xpro or the X1T? I just realized this when I tried to control the zoom settings on my TT600s and V850II.

    If so, I hope there’s a firmware update for the triggers to be able to control the zoom settings without them needing to be in auto-zoom.

  49. Mark Kitaoka 3 days ago

    I’ve updated my experience using the Flashpoint R2 Pro C with a Pentax 645Z
    http://www.markkitaoka.com/latest-news/flashpoint-r2-pro-c/

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