FLASHPOINT – ROVELIGHT RL-600 – High Shutter Speed – Li-ion Strobe Now Available

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Competition is really hotting up in the portable flash market, with Adorama now adding the fully integrated Lithium-ion powered RoveLight RL-600 to their Flashpoint house brand range of lights.

The RoveLight RL-600 are completely cordless 600WS units. With large 400+ shot capacity Lithium-ion battery module, and 2.4GHz radio receiver, all neatly built inside. Making the Rovelight very portable, but also super fast to set up.

Flashpoint RoveLights are at least based on the Jinbei HD-600, which have been available for a little while already. Though like the also impressive N-flash, the main thing really holding the Jinbei units back previously has been the lack of availability and support outside of China.

That’s all just changed though, with Adorama now taking the RL-600 on board their very well supported (and affordably priced) Flashpoint range of lights.

UPDATE – The RoveLight has arrived here, and this is actually the latest model flash with full High Shutter Speed Mode, from Full power down to 1/16th !! More details on the High Shutter Speed mode further below.

 

FlashPoint RoveLight

 

The 600WS Rovelights have full 22 level power control, from 1/1 all the way down to 1/128, in 1/3rd stop increments. And power levels can be changed directly on the flash interface or through the 2.4GHz radio transmitter provided, and receiver built inside the flash.

The RL-600 are also IGBT flashes, meaning they have very fast motion freezing flash durations at lower power levels, down to 1/15000th of a second.

S1 and S2 optic slave modes are provided, and there is a fast recycle mode option bringing full power recycle down from 4.5 seconds to 3.5 seconds (0.3 seconds at minimum power). Multi / Stroboscopic Mode is also provided.

 

FlashPoint RoveLight

 

Key Features –

 

  • 600 WS – Guide Number 61M @ 100 ISO
  • Built-in (Swappable) 14.8v 6600mAh Lithoum-ion Battery Modules 
  • Up to 500 Full Power Shots Per Battery Charge
  • Built in 2.4GHz Radio Receiver with Remote Power Control
  • 22 Level Power Control – 1/1 to 1/128, in 1/3rd Stops
  • High Shutter Speed Mode – from 1/1 to 1/16th Power (Requires TTL Triggers for Pre-sync Signal)
  • Selectable Recycle Speed with 0.3 – 3.5 Second (Fast) and 0.3 – 4.5 Second (Slow)
  • Audible and Ready LED Indicator
  • Trigger Single Frame, Stroboscopic or Flash Delay
  • Built in 7W LED Modeling Lamp with Auto Off Timer
  • Flashpoint or Bowen’s Mount for Reflectors and Light Modifiers

 

The heart of the RL-600 is the large removable 14.8v 6600mAh Lithoum-ion battery. Providing up to 500 full power shots with one charge. And all fitting neatly inside the flash body.

The battery modules are also available separately, and can be recharged outside the flash. Possibly while another battery is in use.

 

FlashPoint RoveLight

 

The Rovelights provide a 7 Watt LED modelling light, which have an automatic shut off to preserve battery power and avoid overheating.

The Modelling light can also be switched on and off remotely from the radio transmitter.

 

FlashPoint RoveLight

 

RoveLights are available with 2 accessory mount options. The RL-600B provide a standard Bowens S-type mount, while the standard RL-600 have the Flashpoint mount.

 

FlashPoint RoveLight

 

Like the battery pack, the 2.4GHz radio receiver is built neatly inside the flash. With only a small antenna stub showing at the rear of the flash.

An optic slave cell with S1 and S2 modes can be seen on top at the rear. And a standard 3.5mm miniphone sync port is also provided, for triggering with other radio triggers, or via sync cord to the camera.

 

FlashPoint RoveLight

 

Rovelights come with the simple TRS 2.4GHz radio transmitter unit. Which provide 80m range, and admittedly a fairly basic power level adjustment.

Remote power control is still one are the Jinbei units could certainly do with an update. Though at least there is some remote power control ability already enabled.

Power levels are simply bumped up and down from the transmitter. You would be relying on the sound beep from the flash, or actually seeing the flash display to be certain of the current power level set.

There is also a modeling light switch and test fire button.

 

FlashPoint RoveLight TRS

 

16 channels are selectable, though there is actually no group function available. So if using a number of RoveLights, their power levels would all be adjusted at the same time.

UPDATE – Adorama have confirmed that channels could actually be used like groups to set flashes individually. If the transmitter is then set to channel 15 it will fire all channels (and therefore flashes) at once.

A transmitter for each flash group would be the ideal though, as changing channels on the transmitter with a toothpic would not be great in the field.

 

For many portrait etc photographers, who mostly only use the one flash on location, this basic remote power control may be quite adequate as it is though.

Jinbei do also use this TRS remote for quite a number of their studio lights. So it is possible this transmitter could still be updated in the future with an LCD screen etc. And the channels could then be used as a way to implement separate flash groups more conveniently.

The TRS transmitter is a single firing pin unit, so it should at least be compatible with any camera having a standard hotshoe.

FlashPoint RoveLight TRS

 

 

UPDATE -High Shutter Speed Mode –

 

Although it wasn’t originally noted in the Adorama documentation, the RoveLight has arrived here, and this is the latest model flash with full High Shutter Speed mode, from Full power down to 1/16th.

 

FP RoveLight

 

Holding the SET and Eye button (top left buttons) engages the High Shutter Speed mode. And a High Shutter Speed signal is displayed on the LCD screen (Top Right).

 

FP RoveLight

 

To function this High Shutter Speed mode does require other TTL triggers to provide an early pre-sync signal, like the YongNuo YN-622Phottix OdinPixel king Pro, or PocketWizard TT1/TT5 etc.

 

The simplest method of achieving this is just by placing one Canon or Nikon YN-622 on the camera hotshoe, and connecting the RoveLight TRS transmitter to that.

For Nikon the TRS can mount straight on top of the YN-622N. For the Canon YN-622C a hotshoe to PC sync cord is needed.

No extra receivers are required on the flash unit then.

 

 

 

And like many portable strobe units, the RoveLights come with a nice padded case and shoulder strap.

Note how the RoveLight fits in fully assembled and ready to go. And there is room for extra battery modules and charger etc.

 

FlashPoint RoveLight

FlashPoint RoveLight

 

Technical Specs –

 

FP RoveLight Specs

 

 

The FlashPoint RoveLights are no doubt set to become another serious portable flash contender.

If $2000+ B1 flashes were never going to be a realistic proposition, the Rovelights may now provide a reasonable fully integrated strobe alternative.

And with the support from Adorama, they should really provide a lot of bang for buck.

 

 

Price and Availability –

 

The FlashPoint RoveLights are available now from Adorama –

RL-600 (FlashPoint Mount) – $589.95

RL-600B (Bowen’s Mount) – $599.95

Replacement Battery Module – $150.00

Also GREAT DEALS on the RoveLight HERE !! (for a limited time).

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68 Comments
  1. Amir 3 years ago

    It’s nice that they offer this with a Bowens mount also. Wish there was a standardized remote power control protocol/module for these things though. Don’t like to carry and fiddle with all these proprietary triggers.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Amir,

      I don’t think much standardization or co-operation across brands is going to happen unfortunately.

      Though as things slowly move towards TTL as well, that does provide a standard protocol of sorts. Its just that it adds a lot of complexity and possible compatibility issue as well.

      Jinbei do use this same remote for many of their studio light (and they have a large range), and they are aware an LCD with feedback etc would be desirable for this system. So its possible this could be updated later, as the would add function to many of their lights.

      They have the bare bulb MF-200 so far, and speedlites on the way as well. So, again its likely going to be a matter of staying within the brand if you want nice integration of a number of lights.

  2. Luca 3 years ago

    Only 5W led light, it’s not too little?

    • Gary 3 years ago

      Its more than likely 5W ultrabright so it should be pretty good. Fair enough it would be a bit poor 20′ away

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 3 years ago

        Yes you have to keep in mind this is a portable flash, with limited battery resources etc.

        The RS600P has a 12W and its pretty bright. I wouldn’t be surprised if this light, even though stated as 5W, is probably still not that far off.

        Being a flat chip though, I don’t think they will have the same effect in a beauty dish etc for example. Its really just with the bare reflector that you get some solid light out of them.

    • Luca 3 years ago

      I see, waiting some test to see its potential! 😉 🙂

  3. Luca 3 years ago

    Anyway by now I think the best alternative to prophoto B1 is the godox RS 600 p, even if it lacks of TTL and high sync feature.

    Apart of this I’m still waiting for a real replacement of B1 by one of this main 3th party brands. 😉

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Luca,

      My RS600P just arrived yesterday, and its a fantastic flash. Obviously one of the greatest parts is that in integrates seamlessly with the Witstro and even V850 / V860 speedlites.

      Though I would trade the AD360’s in a heartbeat if Godox came out with an all in one 300WS unit, instead of the separate flash / cord / battery pack of the Witstro. Because a 300WS integrated unit is not very heavy, and I like the way its just much faster and easier to handle an all in one unit.

      When you double the size and weight to 600WS it definitely becomes a bit more of a harder choice. Though the full integrated option is still going to suit some people much better.

      I’ve always suggested these light should ideally have both options though. There’s really no reason the battery back end could not clip off, and be attached by cord then instead if preferred. So you have both options and the best of both worlds.

      • Luca 3 years ago

        Then enjoy your new flash! 😉

        It looks as a really nice piece of kit!

        I’m just wondering if it’ll ever be possible to have one ttl, hi sync, powerful (at least 300 Ws) cobra style flash to mount on camera for events.

        And a real Prophoto B1 replacement with TTl, Hi Sync, long life battery, 20W led modeling light and remote controllable (I really like using my YN 622 TX) power.

        Maybe Youngnuo will show any happy news for Photonika? 😀

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 3 years ago

          Thanks 🙂

          I don’t know about YongNuo, but Godox is very likely to fulfill your dream there at Photokina. They should be releasing TTL version of the Witstro. I don’t know about the modelling light though.

          • Luca 3 years ago

            If it’ll be reliable I think I’ll go for all Wistro lighting system. 😀

            • Luca 3 years ago

              I wish I could replace several cobra units with a single light point per each side, much faster and pratical to use in sevaral scenario!

  4. artdesignandphoto 3 years ago

    Wait, you are seriously comparing a B1 to the RS600…seriously. The RS600 is a decent flash. But seriously. It can not touch or even in the same lead as the B1.

    Truth is, I just bought an Einstein and am considering of returning it and buy this one instead.

    Hey FH. Did you get to play with the flash. What’s your 2 cents on it?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi artdesignandphoto,

      Job interview –

      Employer – Why are you the best person for the job?

      Applicant – Well I’m not the best person for the job, But I’m the best person for the money you’re prepared to pay.

      🙂

      Obviously they are not completely comparable, but as I mentioned, for a lot of people, with the price of the B1, they were never really a serious consideration (particularly if you want to own a few of them).

      No I haven’t used one yet but I will try and get one. A few owners have been asking me to write about these for a while, but up until just last week I could not get in touch with Jinbei. They are number one in China, but support outside has been pretty sparse until now.

      N-flash have been similar, it was only a few weeks ago they finally contacted me as well.

      A bit of competition now is great though, as these units products will have to evolve to stay on top. And the more they engage with users the better the products will be as well.

    • lukas 2 years ago

      2000 $ vs 500 $.. no shit..

  5. Strobius 3 years ago

    “Parent” – Jinbei HD 600 – very amazing flash! I like it very much.
    HSS mode really works.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Stobius,

      Thanks for that. I’ve been trying to get some more information on the HSS mode. From what I can see this is just long duration sync and requires another TTL trigger like the YN-622 etc.

      Does your HSS mode only work at full power? Thanks.

      • Alexander Loff 3 years ago

        JINBEI released HDII-600 with special SuperSyns Mode
        This mode support a power adjustment 1/1-1/16
        🙂

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 3 years ago

          Hi Alexander –

          UPDATE – This is the new model flash with HSS mode which works at any power level from Full down to 1/16th !!

          This HSS mode requires other TTL triggers to provide a pre-sync signal like the YN-622C, Phottix Odin, or Pixel king Pro, PocketWizard TT1/TT5 etc.

          • Alexander Loff 3 years ago

            The first versions of HD-600 does not have the H mode, it added recently.

  6. Jacques 3 years ago

    I thought monolights were too heavy already. Add a battery and you’re going to need very solid stands indeed. Total kit weight thus ends up about two or three times more than a pack & head system. And, forget about lightweight booms. No thanks. An AD360 is about the most weight I’d want to mount on top of the lightweight stands or at the end of the Cheetah Boom that make up my one-man-schleppable location kit. I considered Xenergizers but went with the Witstros for portability. These replace my old Lumedynes, which had heads that weighed only a few ounces.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Jacques,

      Yeah, this argument could go on forever. People will always have their own preferences.

      As mentioned further above I think the best solution ideally would to have both options in the one light. The pack could clip off when needed and be attached by a cord as well when preferred.

      I suggested designs like this years ago. I think things are finally moving alone now though. These lights will gain a lot more momentum now (as the N-flash etc probably should have years ago, if it wasn’t for lack of power control and support etc), and we will see new variations emerge.

      TTL will no doubt really push things a long with portable lights as well.

  7. Earle 3 years ago

    Adorama’s adoption of this as a Flashpoint light will probably do wonders for its development and overall use. Though this is the third portable solution Adorama’s branded in the last couple of years — the 180-watt small strobe, the Godox 180 and 360 siblings and now this — in addition to the Mettle DC strobes it has marketed previously.

    I’ve seen quite a few of the Godox 360s out and about and I think all of them were the Flashpoint store brand. (Now if any of the photographers allied with Adorama TV would use one of these, it would really jump out the door).

  8. Author
    Flash Havoc 3 years ago

    UPDATE – This is the new model flash with HSS mode which works at any power level from full down to 1/16th !!

    This HSS mode requires other TTL triggers to provide a pre-sync signal like the YN-622, Phottix Odin, or Pixel king Pro, PocketWizard TT1/TT5 etc.

    .

    Also there is a “Fire all Channels” option on the transmitter unit. So channels could be used as a workaround for groups.

    • Donald 3 years ago

      That is interesting. Does Jinbei (or maybe Adorama) provide a link to an updated instruction Manual that details the new Long burn functionality? IOW is there a vestige of meaningful support – at all?

      With an off brand trigger eg Odins – I think one remote per Jinbei light gives, for M fractions & metering, up to 16 quazi Groups (but you’d have 17 Txs to juggle!).

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 3 years ago

        Hi Donald,

        I’ve asked Adorama if I can possibly get a PDF file of the instruction manual.

        Adorama so have technical support people, so they may be able to provide some details on this. I’d like to see what the manual says though as well.

        • Donald 3 years ago

          Tx Elv,

          It seems that there’s just one HD 600 (with different branding) but 2 build eras – the later one having a longer burn setting at 1/1. Hopefully a recent instruction manual would clarify that. But if buying an HD 600 off ebay, how could you verify the build era, between early & late – assuming you were keen to get the Long burn option, say for ODS triggering?

          • Author
            Flash Havoc 3 years ago

            Hi Donald,

            Adorama sent the manual, ( UPDATE – This is the new model flash with HSS mode which works at any power level from full down to 1/16th !!

            This HSS mode requires other TTL triggers to provide a pre-sync signal like the YN-622C, Phottix Odin, or Pixel king Pro, PocketWizard TT1/TT5 etc. )
            .

            If you would like the RoveLight manual just drop me an email, as I don’t think I should upload this version.

            Also regarding buying from Ebay, Adorama may be looking into a discount offer for FlashHavoc readers 🙂

  9. Earle 3 years ago

    That is good news about the Supersync mode (I prefer to reserve HSS for the whole multiple pulse method of high shutter sync). It means Adorama probably won’t come out with its version of the RSP 600. It also creates two fairly cool options with the Bowens mount. Lightweight head with cables (aka gear clutter) and heavier all-in-one head with no clutter. For an on-the-go photographer in need of more juice than speed lights this is great news.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Earle,

      Yes Adorama said they are not stocking the Godox RS600P for now.

      Though it would really be helpful to Streaklight / Witrso customers if they did. As they combine together really well with the same transmitter unit and remote control etc.

  10. Earle 3 years ago

    Well the RSP600P is an intriguing unit but even Adorama can run into too much market confusion with too many products that do the same thing at the same price point. I believe Cheetahstand’s crop of RSP600s are due next month, it’d be nice for Ed if Adorama left that unit alone for a while (one of the guys I saw with a Streaklight 360 clearly knew about Cheetah, I saw the logo on his V850 but opted for the Adorama version, likely out of price (which is now a toss up I think).

    Both units will be wonderfully portable with, say the collapsible Luna beauty dish but for the beach I’m tempted to give the nod to the HD 600 because there’s no cord connection for sand to find its way into.

    • Jacques 3 years ago

      More price pressure: now Interfit’s selling the AD360 kit for $499.

      • Jacques 3 years ago

        Oops, maybe not. Cheetah’s got the AD360/CL360 for $540 WITH trigger, and despite Interfit’s announced $499 price, B&H and Adorama are selling it for $589 WITHOUT trigger. Advantage Ed/Cheetah.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 3 years ago

        Adorama have the AD360 kit for $520.

        And you can get the motherload of gear for $699.

  11. Ed_One 3 years ago

    Exactly how do the Pocket Wizard TT units communicate with the flash units? Do you need a TT transceiver plugged into the flash and on the camera? Could you lay out how this would work with the various triggers that would operate with this system?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Ed_One,

      There are quite a number of ways you can set things up with the PocketWizards, and I always get varying reports of success and failure even with similar set ups with them.

      But no you don’t need to use any extra receivers on the flashes if you don’t want to. You should be able to just use one TT1 or TT5 on the camera hotshoe, and mount the TRS transmitter on top of that.

      If you need the hotshoe on the TT1/TT5 for an AC3 or on-camera flash, then you would have to start looking at alternatives. Possibly mounting or connecting the TRS transmitter to another PocketWizard receiver. That would still avoid extra receivers on each flash.

      I have discussed other TTL trigger set ups more in the comment on the deal post here.

      This is much the same as the Godox units require (and likely more lights will follow now with the same system). I still haven’t had a chance to update the Godox description properly either.

      The options with PocketWizards get terribly complicated though, and as mentioned peoples reported results always vary. I’m sure this is a major customer service hassle for PocketWizard too, though they designed the darn things 🙂

  12. Ed_One 3 years ago

    Thanks for the response. I did just finish reading the other post and it was a fountain of good information.

  13. sohail 3 years ago

    Regarding HHS function Yongnuo YN-622C or Yongnuo YN-622C TX what is best option

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Sohail,

      The YN-622C-TX has a pre-sync timing adjustment, so they can provide the best results in terms of light in the frame. They have no hotshoe on top though, and the PC sync port is sync-in only, so you need to use a YN-622C as receiver then attached to the flash via PC sync cord.

      Or place the FT-16 transmitter on a YN-622C receiver hotshoe.

      Using the YN-622C on camera as the transmitter, you only need the one YN-622C, by attaching the FTR transmitter to that via hotshoe to sync cord as described in the review post here.

  14. keano 3 years ago

    Hi you said “This is the new model flash with HSS mode which works at any power level from full down to 1/16th !! This HSS mode requires other TTL triggers to provide a pre-sync signal like the YN-622, Phottix Odin, or Pixel king Pro”

    So the Rovelight does HSS by longer flash duration. Does this lower the quality compared to regular HSS. Being able to use HSS at any power level is rare right since most speed lights and such only operate at lower power or less in HSS right? I am stuck between the Rovelight and the Flashpoint 360. Do you think either would be able to overpower the sun using this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/374097-REG/Mola_MS280_Setti_28_Beauty.html

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi keano,

      Speedlites (which pulse the flash in HSS) can go down to any power level in HSS.

      The Rovelight uses Long Duration Sync in the HSS mode. It also switches from an IGBT flash (like a big speedlite) to a regular voltage controlled flash in the HSS mode.

      – IGBT flashes have the longest duration at full power.

      – Voltage controlled have the longest duration at minimum power.

      So at full power in HSS mode the Rovelight does have some gradient in across the frame, as seen in the review here (and in this image, top right frame).

      You can see in the same image how the AD360 has considerably less power, though more even across the frame in HSS at full power.

      The AD360 is going to struggle to overpower the sun at anything more than short distanced in a modifier. So if overpowering the sun with modifiers or any distance is what your wanting to do the Rovelight is likely the least you would want.

      And you will likely be back to using straight ND filters and not higher sync speeds though, as you lose at least a stop of light using HSS.

      I don’t have the Einsteins, though others have said they Rovelights are around equal in power. So if you do a search for Einsteins and beauty dish on the flicker strobist group you should be able to see plenty of examples of what people have been able to do with this amount of power.

      For every extra stop of power you need to double the amount of capacitors (and generally batteries to match), so wth the more power you want you just have to live with the extra weight and size associatied, there’s not much way around that.

      • Keano 2 years ago

        Hi Elvis,
        You said the Rovelight RL-600 are also IGBT flashes, meaning they have very fast motion freezing flash durations at lower power levels, down to 1/15000th of a second. I found a thread comparing it to the Einstein too. So where does this leave the Indra500. Is it the same? Is it as strong on the HSS area as the RL and Einstein? Can’t find much about that.

        Do you prefer ND filter over HSS regarding overpowering the sun?

  15. Kyler 3 years ago

    So what if we wanted to ditch the standard transmitter all together? Is there any good solution that still allows the the use of the HSS?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Kyler,

      Yes its no problem ditching the standard FTR transmitter and retaining HSS.

      Any of the HSS enabled transmitter units discussed can also still be used without the standard FTR transmitter, as long as you then have a corresponding receiver unit attached to the Rovelight via sync cord.

      The best options then would generally be the triggers that provide a pre-sync timing adjustment, like the YN-622C-TX / N-TX (and YN622C / N receiver) or the Phottix Odin transmitter and receivers.

      The standard FTR transmitter is currently the only one available which can remotely control power levels of the Rovelight flash though. So its handy to at least possibly keep one of those in your pocket, just to tweak the lights power level when needed.

      Hopefully Jinbei have a new transmitter unit coming around mid year, which is also HSS enabled.

      • Kyler 3 years ago

        You guys are awesome. I just stumbled upon flash havoc a couple days ago, but I’m glad I did. My new Rove light comes in tomorrow, so I’ll see just how this all works. Thanks again for actually interacting with your readers and providing such quality content.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 3 years ago

          Thanks Kyler,

          Its a great flash, so hopefully it suits what you need, thanks.

  16. Lloyd 2 years ago

    Hi

    Can you do HSS using the Godox Cells II. I’m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned because it seems to be working as shown in the following YouTube vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuWimY7uZJQ

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Lloyd,

      Yes you can use the Cells II for HSS. Attaching the FTR transmitter to the side hotshoe of the Cells II transmitter works, though it is a little bit awkward mounted on the camera like that.

      The main reason I didn’t mention the Cells II is that there were rumours at the time the the Cells II were being discontinued. And there probably could have been some truth in that, though Godox may have run into some delays with coming products and decided to keep the Cells II for now and release the Nikon version as well.

      The other thing is there is still some question over which camera models are currently compatible with the Cells II, like the Canon 6D, and D750 for Nikon etc.

      • Lloyd 2 years ago

        Thanks for getting back – that’s great to know.

        On another point, something else I’ve been thinking about is the use of the HSS for splash work. I currently use a collection of speed lights set to 1/16 which gives me a flash duration of I think about 8000th which does the job only it looks a bit heath robinson in front of a client (but I can’t afford top end Profoto and can’t buy Paul Buff Einstein in the UK).

        These lights look like they might do the job in normal mode but that normally involves still reducing the power significantly. Now, if I understand it correctly, the HSS mode in these lights work by simply having a long flash duration so they are effectively working as a continuous light for the duration of your shutter speed. If that is correct then I’m guessing I might be able to use them at a high power level and with shutter speed of 8000 which should do the job. HSS using the pulse method doesn’t work for obvious reasons. I’m probably going to plumb for one of these anyway soon so should be able to get back on this myself soon but thought I’d put it up for discussion while I’m waiting.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 2 years ago

          Hi Lloyd,

          Unfortunately pulsing the flash is effectively the same thing as a constant light source like using a long flash duration.

          So the issue is still that a shutter speed of 1/8000th is really still a shutter travel speed of 1/250th or so. The camera just uses a small slit between 2 shutter curtains moving across the frame to create an exposure equal to 1/8000th. The shutter still moves at the same maximum X-sync speed though.

          I think the easiest way to understand this is to forget about flash for a minute, and just go outside in daylight and throw water around using 1/8000th shutter speed. That’s the same result you will get using HSS. It still freezes motion a lot more than an x-sync shutter speed, but 1/8000th shutter speed is not frozen like a 1/8000th flash duration.

          (I realize you’re likely familiar with this already btw, but just for others reading this as well).

  17. Lloyd 2 years ago

    Thanks for that – had to think it through but all makes sense.

    So back to basic old flash duration. I can’t seem to find any detailed specs or a manual on these lights detailing the flash duration at different power levels. Do you buy any chance have these specs?

    Many thanks again.

    • Paul H. 2 years ago

      Lloyd,
      Have you considered getting a Godox QT600 / Lencarta SF600? It has very good T.1/T.5 times, almost as good as the Buff Einstein. For freezing splash, on a budget, this option is really worth checking out…

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      No, the only specs provided are 1/10000 – 1/800. 1/10000 would be at minimum power.

      The high shutter speed may still work for you as well though. 1/8000th shutter speed still does a pretty good job of freezing things. It may not be so good for very close up water droplet photography, but for a larger scene it may be fine.

      Just try some tests in daylight with a high shutter speed and without flash to see if the results are ok for what you want to do.

  18. Raj 2 years ago

    My RL-600 has stopped working in HSS especially when the power is below 1/4. It does not trigger by any means — remote, or the button on the back. at 1/4 and above it works just fine.

    In non-HSS mode it just works fine. And my battery was fully charged.

    Can anyone help?

    • Hector Carbuccia 12 months ago

      Mine is doing that exact thing, did you find what it wrong?

    • Nicholas Grobbelaar 6 months ago

      Hi Raj & Hector

      Mine is doing this as well now, have you found any work around this problem yet?

  19. Donald 2 years ago

    Hi Flash, would you please send me an email with the manual?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Donald,

      I just sent you an email. If you don’t receive it just let me know here thanks.

  20. Dino Proctor 2 years ago

    Hi Flash Havoc. Great review of the Adorama version. I have the Jinbei version, and I learnt more from your review than I did from the appalling manual that came with the unit 🙂 Is there any chance you might be able to send me a copy of your manual? Thanks, Dino.

  21. Dino Proctor 2 years ago

    Thanks, Flash Havoc, much appreciated, got it!

  22. Anil Fernandes 1 year ago

    I wanted to know how big is the carrying case. Is it too big to be carried as cabin luggage in the plane?
    I intend to use these with other lights while travelling.

    Thanks,
    Anil

  23. Raimonds 1 year ago

    Hey guys, your info on HSS was really helpful. I bought YN622 for my Jinbei HD600 + Nikon, and HSS works w/o extra cables. Thanks a lot!
    Raimonds

  24. Brian Pierce 1 year ago

    Can these sync with second shutter or are they always on first shutter?

  25. Paul Flickner 1 year ago

    You wrote:

    (HSS) For the Canon YN-622C a hotshoe to PC sync cord is needed.
    No extra receivers are required on the flash unit then.

    To be clear my YN-622C goes on the camera Hotshoe, then connect the PC Sync cord to the side of the YN-622 and attach the Rovelight TSR to the Sync Cord hotshoe << correct ??

    Thank you in Advance,
    Paul Flickner

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi Paul,

      Yes that is correct.

      An easier way to do it now though is to use a Godox X1T-C transmitter, as they do not require the PC sync cord like the YN-622C does.

      • Eduardo 7 months ago

        Can I use HSS and control Rovelight 600Ws output from the X1T-C?

  26. Clive Timmons 1 year ago

    anybody know where I can get a pdf instruction manual for the Rovelight 600 Please

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