FLASHPOINT ZOOM LI-ON X R2 / GODOX V1 Speedlight – Now Available

Flashpoint Li-on X / Godox V1

 

Flashpoint and Godox have released the very much anticipated Lithium-ion powered Round Head TTL Speedlight in the new Flashpoint Zoom Li-on X R2 TTL / Godox V1.

And the Flashpoint Zoom Li-on X R2 are available now from Adorama for $259.

When used off camera the Round Head Speedlight provides a more natural circular flash pattern and light fall off than traditional rectangular head speedlights.

And most significantly the Round Head includes a fast and convenient magnetic accessory mount compatible with the AK-R1 Gel and Modifiers. (Also compatible with the EVOLV / AD200 Round Head).

The Li-on X R2 / Godox V1 are the follow up to the popular Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 TTL / Godox V860II Lithium-ion powered speedlites, and once again provide a radio Master mode which will control the full range of lights in the Flashpoint R2 / Godox X 2.4GHz radio flash system.

UPDATE – All Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax, versions of the Zoom Li-on X R2 / Godox V1 are now available to order.

Flashpoint Li-on X / Godox V1

 

Along with the new Round Head the Zoom Li-on X R2 / Godox V1 speedlites also provide numerous improved features over the previous Zoom Li-on R2 TTL / Godox V860II –

 

SIGNIFICANT NEW FEATURES INCLUDE

  • Round Head For Pleasing Circular Light Pattern
  • Magnetic Modifier Mount – Compatible with AK-R1 & H200R
  • SMD LED Modelling Light In Flash Head
  • Backward Tilting Flash Head (30 Degrees Backward)
  • Lever Locking Flash Foot
  • New Battery With More Reliable 2 x 18650 Lithium-ion Cells
  • Improved Recycle Time (Around 1.5 Seconds @ Full Power)
  • Compact USB-C Battery Charger
  • Lazer AF Assist Light, And SMD LED Light
  • USB Port Updated to USB-C
  • Main Dial D-Pad Function – Fast Access & Power Adjustments
  • Improved Interface and Direct Access to Groups
  • 1/10th Stop Power Level Increments & Minimum 1/256th Power
  • TCM Function (Not Available In Radio Master Mode)
  • Channel Scan Function For Best Radio Performance
  • Advanced Optic Wireless Modes Removed (Navigate Modes Faster)

 

Flashpoint Li-on X / Godox V1

 

FLASHPOINT ZOOM LI-ON X R2 TTL / GODOX V1 FEATURES

 

  • GN 28m (ISO 100, 50mm Zoom)
  • SMD LED Modelling Light
  • Godox Magnetic Modifier Mount
  • Powered by 7.2V, 2600mAh, 18Wh, Li-ion Battery
  • Approx 480 Full Power Flashes Per Battery Charge
  • Approx 1.5 Second Full Power Recycle Time
  • Flash Mode – ETTL /M / Multi
  • HSS to 1/8000th
  • 1st Curtain Sync / 2nd Curtain Sync
  • FEC / FEB – 1/3rd Increments (±3 stops)
  • Manual Flash – 1/256 – 1/1 output control (1/10th increments)
  • Flash Zoom 28 – 105mm
  • Radio Master & Slave Modes for Flaspoint R2 / Godox X Radio System
  • Auto Sensing Canon / Nikon / Sony / M 4/3 / Fuji / Pentax TTL Radio Slave Modes
  • Radio Master 3 Remote Groups – B / C / D  (A is the On-Camera Flash Group with Canon)
  • Radio Slave 5 Groups – A / B / C / D / E
  • 32 Channels
  • Range to 100 m
  • S1 and S2 Optic Slave Modes
  • Head Swivel – 330° (150° Left, 180° Right)
  • Head Tilt – 7° to 120° ( 30° Backward)
  • Flash Duration (t0.1) – 1/300s – 1/20,000s
  • Color Stability – 5600 ± 200K
  • Large Dot Matrix LCD Screen
  • Lazer AF Assist Light
  • Lever Lock Foot Clamp
  • Sound Prompt
  • Custom Functions
  • Settings Memory
  • Overheat Protection
  • USB-C Port for Firmware Updates
  • 2.5mm Sync Port
  • Size – 76 X 93 X 197mm
  • Weight – 534g (18.8 oz) With Battery

Flashpoint Li-on X / Godox V1

 

Although there is always room for improvement, the Flashpoint Zoom Li-on X R2 / Godox V1 Master interface now provides a much better user experience than previous models.

With Groups now have direct access with a button assigned to each Group.

The Main Dial also includes a new D-Pad function providing direct access to more functions, and faster adjustment of power levels.

(Pressing the top or bottom of the dial make fast complete stop adjustments).

 

Flashpoint Li-on X / Godox V1

 

The Flash head can now also tilt  30° backward, saving the time of swiveling the head all the way around.

Head Swivel is a little more limited at 330° though (150° Left, 180° Right).

 

Flashpoint Li-on X / Godox V1

 

And the built-in SMD LED modelling light provides 10 manually adjustable power levels.

 

 

Possibly the most convenient feature of the Li-on X R2 / V1, is the magnetic accessory mount compatible with the AK-R1 Gel and Modifiers.

These are also compatible with the EVOLV / AD200 H200R Round Head.

 

Flashpoint Li-on X / Godox V1

 

External ports supplied are the 2.5mm Sync port, and USB-C for firmware upgrades.

There is no longer a communication port for the older XTR-16s radio receivers included.

 

The new 7.2V, 2600mAh, 18Wh, Li-ion Battery is comprised of two 186500 cells, which have proven to be very reliable in the larger strobes.

The supplied battery charger is also now a USB-C charger, which can fully recharge the battery in 3.5 hours.

(For people wanting to use a mains power outlet, USB to mains power adapters are widely available).

 

Flashpoint Li-on X / Godox V1

 

FLASHPOINT ZOOM LI-ON X R2 TTL / GODOX V1 SPECS

 

GN – 92 ft / 28 meters @ISO 100 50mm zoom

Flash Exposure Control – ETTL, Manual Flash, Remote ETTL (Master or Slave, with Groups) using the Integrated R2 Radio System, HSS

Lens Coverage – 28-105 mm with automatic or manual zoom control, Wider with Round Head Accessory Kit

R2 Radio Range – >330ft / 100m

R2 Radio Channels – 32

Triggering Modes – Hot Shoe R2 Radio Controller (integrated) Sync Port Optical Slave S1 Intelligent Optical Slave S2

Bounce Function (Tilt) – 0 to 330° horizontally (180° in any direction) and -7° to 120° vertically

Auto Focus Assist – Auto sense LED. Range 2.0-32.8′

Model Light – SMD LED

Power Source – 7.2V/2600mAh Li-ion polymer battery 2.6Ah 18Wh

Power Control – 1/256th power to full power in 1/10 stop increments

Recycle Time – < 1.5 seconds

Full power flashes per charge – Approx. 480

Flash Duration – 1/300 to 1/20000 seconds

Exposure Compensation Range – ± 3 stops in 1/3 of a stop increments

Dimensions – 3.0 X 3.6 X 7.75″ / 76 X 93 X 197mm

Weight with battery – 18.8 oz / 534g

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The Flashpoint Zoom Li-on X R2 TTL / Godox V1 are available now from $259 –

Canon – Adorama, Amazon, UK, B&H Photo, Ebay
Nikon – Adorama, Amazon, UK, B&H Photo, Ebay
Sony – Adorama, Amazon, UK, B&H Photo, Ebay
M4/3 – Adorama, Amazon, UK, B&H Photo, Ebay
Fuji – Adorama, Amazon, UK, B&H Photo, Ebay
Pentax – Adorama, Amazon, UK, B&H Photo, Ebay

AK-R1 Magnetic Accessory Kit –

Adorama, Amazon, UK, B&H Photo, Ebay

 

Flashpoint – Website

Godox – Website

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92 Comments
  1. John Wilson 8 months ago

    If the USB charger is like the UC29 It’s not really a USB C charger as it won’t charge from a USB C power supply because it doen’t do the USB C voltage negotiation. Not the supplied cable is only USB C at one end.

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Thanks John. We have been trying to get to the bottom of that.

      I don’t have a charger here yet, though Godox have at least confirmed today the charge time is around 3.5 hours. Which still sounds quite reasonable, particularly if that is not using the quick charge protocol.

      • John Wilson 8 months ago

        The confusing and slightly annoying thing is that it won’t charge at all from a USB C power supply. I thought my UC29 was broken when I first used it. It means I can’t use my phone charger to charge the battery.

        • Richard 8 months ago

          ———- The confusing and slightly annoying thing is that it won’t charge at all from a USB C power supply. I thought my UC29 was broken when I first used it. It means I can’t use my phone charger to charge the battery. —————

          Am I right in thinking that the flash doesn’t come with a mains electricity transformer?

          So if you don’t own a power adaptor that outputs the required Voltage/Ampage you can’t charge the battery????

          • John Wilson 8 months ago

            It would appear so.

          • Author
            FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

            Mains to USB adapters appear to be pretty widely available.

            I’m not that familiar with this USB charging so I’m not sure if Godox have gotten ahead of themselves with this, though it appears to be the way things are going.

            • John Wilson 8 months ago

              The problem is that their USB chargers (at least the one I have) have USB C sockets but don’t work with USB C power sources. A normal USB power source just gives you 5V at 1 or 2 amps. USB power sources can supply a range of voltages so that the charging can be faster. There’s a protocol so that the source and consumer can negotiate and agree on a voltage. The Godox charger doesn’t have this protocol implemented so the source doesn’t know what voltage to use and will not supply any current.

              This may be a problem when advertising the V1 for sale in the EU and certainly in the UK. Any claim that this is a USB C charger would be false advertising and would be open to complaint. In the UK the Advertising Standards Authority would almost certainly requite the claim to be removed.

  2. george pahountis 8 months ago

    I m wondering if the af assist is still the same dots 🙁

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Hi George,

      I only received a sample flash a couple of weeks ago (and its a pretty early sample) and there was no lazer style AF assist light included at all.

      So Flashpoint asked Godox to add this to their units, and Godox decided to add them to theirs as well (which delayed the flash a couple of weeks).

      I have given Godox an example of a dual pattern lazer a number of times, though I doubt they would have been able to implement that in a couple of weeks.

      So the short answer is I would expect it is the same dots as the V860II etc, though I will try and get a confirmation.

      • JL Williams 8 months ago

        What do they mean by “lazer”? I would guess it’s not the same as a laser, or they would have called it a laser. (Probably just as well, since a real laser would need an eyesight warning like the ones on laser pointers and laser levels.) But if not a laser, what is it?

        • Author
          FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

          By “lazer I’m referring to V860II, and Xpro etc AF assist light. Its been a long time now so I don’t remember the technical details of these lights, though my understanding was they are a type of lazer, definitely not harmful to eyes though.

          The sample flash I have has the big LED light on the front as seen here. That was just a red LED light, which didn’t project any pattern at all. If you see the images in the post above that LED has now been removed completely from the flash body.

          And I would assume the V860II style AF light will be behind the red panel on the front of the flash again.

          The LED modelling light in the round flash head can also come on when focusing, though I don’t know if that will be the case once the lazer style AF light is added.

    • Jan 2 months ago

      Yes unfortunantly the same as useless in very low light situation such as evening reception and night club…I was hoping they would redesign, but kept the same…

    • Andre Williams 4 weeks ago

      It’s upgraded and very nice…works great with my a7rIII

  3. chris 8 months ago

    there was test two weeks ago in Brüssel with the V1 Sony and the AF light will be blocked by the Sony Software, that what the dutch distributor of Godox told me!

  4. Andy 8 months ago

    TCM not available in radio master mode?
    So does that mean you can’t use it like you would with the XPro, to convert a slave flash (or more than one)?

    So it would only be available to work with itself on camera?

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Yes, going by the sample I have the TCM function is only available outside of the Master mode, just to work with the flash itself on camera.

      I don’t have the user manual yet either to double check, but I’m not getting my hopes up on that.

  5. John Wilson 8 months ago

    That has to be fixable in firmware doesn’t it?

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      If you’re referring to the TCM, part of the problem is likely just that there was nowhere to assign the TCM function in the Master mode (as the Groups are assigned to all the menu bar buttons under the LCD).

      I’m not sure if I should be saying anything, as there is definitely nothing guaranteed, but the only way we are likely going to be able to significantly improve the interface and functions again would be to do a separate Flashpoint version of the flash like we did with the R2 PRO II transmitter.

  6. John Wilson 8 months ago

    Hmmm..

    I suppose you could assign it to a long press on one of the buttons? And the reverse function to long press on one of the others.

    • John Wilson 8 months ago

      Actually you could make a feature of it. Long press on any group button lets you do TCM on only that group. The marketing guff could go on about “fine control” , “granularity”

  7. roberto 8 months ago

    Very disappointed with the GN and recycle time specifications.
    It has the same GN at 50mm that the Canon 600RX II at 1/2, so half the power.
    Speedlite 600EX II RT alone — approx. 3.5 sec. (Ni-MH) at 1/1 so at 1/2 would be more or less the Godox v1 recycle time
    600EX II-RT plus CP-E4N — approx. 1.2 sec. (Ni-MH) at 1/1 so at 1/2 would be 0.6 sec, more or less 1/3 the Godox v1 recycle time

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Hi Roberto,

      Its very hard to compare anything by stated guide numbers.

      I only have a pre-production sample, though that looks very promising, only a tenth or so behind the V860II. Technically its pretty much the same in the center of each frame, but the V1 has more fall off towards the edges.

      I did a quick comparison image at 50mm and 105mm zoom here.

      The recycle time is also slightly faster than the V860II, so its hard to complain about that. Much faster than a 600EX-RT II without the external battery pack.

  8. Adam 8 months ago

    Would have been nice to keep the old battery from the 860II. It’s 4 more watt hours at 22 vs 18. Higher voltage also higher.

    Sounds like power is unchanged from the 860 II.

    Is the recycle time improved. I feel like I am getting about 1.5 secs from my 860s

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Hi Adam,

      I’m pretty sure Godox have updated the battery because there have been very little issues with the 18650 cells (already used in most of the larger strobes), unlike the VB18 batteries which have been suffering from bloating etc at times.

      I think its highly likely the capacitor is the same as the V860II, so energy output is the same, its just the different spread of light each head provides. I did a quick comparison here with the pre-production flash I have.

      The recycle time on the sample I have is just a little faster than the V860II.

      • Adam 8 months ago

        thanks for the power comparison! I’ll be replacing my 3-4 860’s and older strobes just for the better user interface. 90% of the time all I use my 860’s for is as a trigger for my 200s. I like to have the option of on camera when I want it though.

        Thanks for all your work here!!

      • Holger 8 months ago

        Robert Hall compared it in his latest YouTube video. He said the V1 has pretty much the same power, too, maybe a tiny bit more when headed directly at the meter. He measured recycling time as 1.4s (860ii) vs. 1.3s (V1).
        For me basically it is the much quicker menu operation in master which makes the flash interesting.

  9. badphoto 8 months ago

    Hi Elv
    Again sounding like a stuck record, but for it to be considered seriously as an on camera pro flash, it has to have the focus assist pattern like the Canon infra-red EX580, or something similarly wide and effective. The old pattern of the 860’s simply does not work because more often the marks would fall outside of the camera focus points, and then when you zoom the lens, it shifts, and when there is a slightest wobble from the flash’s foot, it shifts too. Can you please look into this seriously this time? Until now none of Godox’s flashes has an effective AF assist pattern. Thanks

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Hi Badphoto,

      Yes as you likely know I have been harassing Godox (with little luck) for a more professional level master speedlight since the original V860 was released.

      I had been suggesting either the Canon / Nikon style AF lights, or a dual pattern lazer style light (which Profoto have since implemented in their A1, and is likely a lot easier to implement than the Canon / Nikon multi light system).

      The major concerns we have had for years now with the speedlites are the AF assist light, the stiff tilt swivel head, the heat protection limits, and the interface.

      And the only one of those Godox have addressed with the V1 is the interface. While writing the post for this flash yesterday I realized I had to contact Godox and plead one last time that they at least remove the sticky grease from the flash swivel. Because the stiff head movement is going to cause even more issues with the flash foot now that lever lock foot does not clamp as tightly to the camera hotshoe.

      To address these issues properly though I think Godox would either need to make a higher priced Pro level version of the flash, or possibly we may be able to do something with a separate Flashpoint version again.

      Having said all that, (apart from the head issue) it is still a great flash for what it is, and for the price (and Godox know the vast majority of buyers are most interested in price). But its not going to be the answer for everyone, and those still looking for a complete Canon / Nikon comparable unit yet.

      • badphoto 8 months ago

        Hi Elv,
        Thanks for your reply. If for cost or whatever reason they can’t include effective focus assist lamps into the flash, can they make a new trigger with them? That way for people who shoot weddings the trigger with good AF assist can control wirelessly the flash on a bracket. And if necessary, you can just turn off the flash and use just the trigger’s AF assist for available light only shooting. Or you can use only the trigger for AF assist purpose in dark venues where flash not allowed.

        • Author
          FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

          The main cost issue Godox have discussed over the years is improving the heat protection limits. Just upgrading the flash tube is expensive in that regard.

          I don’t think the dual pattern lazer style AF light would be a cost issue, I’m not so sure about replicating the Canon/Nikon style AF lights though.

          So I’m mainly linking in the heat protection improvements in regard to thoughts on a higher level Pro option.

          We do want to try and upgrade the transmitter AF light as well when possible.

          • roberto 8 months ago

            I´m very interested in that question. Do you think that the heat ptrotection has been improved? Other godox models can fire only 30 1/1 flashes (instead of the 50 from canon 600ex II)

            • Author
              FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

              Hi Roberto,

              There has been no mention of any improvement to the heat protection limits.

              As mentioned in some of my previous comments, this is something we have been harassing Godox about for many years, and its been rejected because they want to keep the cost down.

              Maybe we can eventually convince them to do a PRO model, or possibly do something with a separate Flashpoint version.

      • badphoto 8 months ago

        As for the head tilt-swivel issue, why not just stick to the proven “push button to turn, release button to lock, done with one hand” design? Much more secure and worri-free with heavier modifiers on the head.

        • Author
          FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

          Yes the tilt swivel locking button is the only way I know of to correct the head issue properly. Godox have done that previously in the AD360/II so its not something completely new to them. Though its highly possible there were different engineers working on those at the time.

          I actually said earlier today I think they should hold the flash back and fix it properly for once and for all with a locking button. I’d be surprised if they are prepared to try and re-engineer it now though. Removing or diluting the sticky grease would be something of a reasonable short term solution.

          I’d be surprised if Profoto don’t eventually add a locking button as well, because they have had issues with the head falling down with their large bounce modifier from the beginning.

          • badphoto 8 months ago

            On a separate issue: can you do quick test to compare f-stop/guide number and more importantly, light coverage spread, between this round head flash and a 860ii or similar with Stofen diffuser (or other diffusers/mini softboxes etc.) attached, head pointed straight and tilted 45 degrees? The fundamental question before forking out $250 is whether this round head gives significantly better results than just popping on your Stofen, or just flipping down the ultra-wide panel of your old flash. I guess it’s better to compare it now than having people doing their own tests anyway down the road and getting mad 🙂 Thanks.

            • Author
              FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

              Unfortunately I don’t have a battery charger, and I need to be able to reference the flash interface for the moment, so I don’t want to risk running the battery empty firing the flash.

              Also the Fresnel lens often changes by the production version, which can make a big difference (my sample has 2 LED’s in the lens, so I know atleast that has changed already).

              But you have lost me a bit there anyway. I don’t think anyone is claiming (and I wouldn’t expect) an improvement in light spread or power for on-camera use (whether direct or bounced).

              For off camera use the round head used direct gives a nice light pattern where that can be seen. And now that you mention it I’m pretty sure it will give better results in softboxes and umbrellas etc, because as soon as you add a stofen or wide angle diffuser to a regular speedlite you lose a stop of light.

              The advantage on camera is mainly the magnetic modifier system, improved interface and functions, rear tilting head etc.

              People are debating whether a round head is of any advantage or not regarding light quality, but I can’t see flashes going back to rectangular heads anymore, simply because the round head is so much better suited to rotating modifiers.

              Profoto may not like it, though I think its a huge step forward that we have a common round head mount and convenient magnetic modifiers.

              • badphoto 8 months ago

                Sorry did not mean to lose you there. Specificially, I meant that basically 1. If set at same distance V1 is measured to have 1 stop (or whatever) light output advantage over 860ii with Stofen, then advantage to V1; 2. If set at same distance, V1’s light spread is larger, wider, better than 860ii with Stofen, then advantage for V1. These are two main criteria for using it as a straight on camera flash, as vs. the 860ii or equivalent rectangular head flashes.

                As for just the round head to take round accessories to “rotate” there’s been an adapter to clamp on the rectangular head to accept round accessories.

                Thanks again.

    • Holger 8 months ago

      @badphoto
      I use flashes at weddings for many years now and never required an AF assist light. With mirrorless (using Sony now exclusively), you don’t have that anyway. So saying it is required to be taken seriously is a little over the top. Obviously quite a few manage professionally without it.

  10. Allen Gambrell 8 months ago

    “TCM Function (Not Available In Radio Master Mode)”???????
    TCM is Master mode is my entire reason to buy the flash!
    I want to use the TCM with an onboard flash with slaves. I am tired of having to use a pro transmitter with a flash on a bracket above it.

    Also, why can it only control slave E in master mode? That is just stupid!

    Can the flash be powered with the usb-C connection, without a battery or recharge the battery while not firing?

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Hi Allen,

      I’m not sure what you are referring to there regarding slave E. The flashes Master mode can control 3 remote Groups.

      With Canon Group A is the on-camera flash, so Group B, C, and D, can be controlled as slave flashes.

      With other versions like Nikon, the on camera flash is designated as Group M, so A, B, and C are the remote flash Groups.

      Regarding the USB-C power, I gave it a try on the pre-prodution sample I have, and the flash interface will not come on while the USB is connected. So its basically just firmware update mode.

      That is an interesting thought though. Radio triggers often allow USB power, I don’t know if its possible or practical to implement with a flash though.

  11. Alex 8 months ago

    My biggest disappointment is ot have the on camera flash as group A when in master mode. That’s very confusing and weird and does not make sense. Why dont just keep it as M – Master like their previous flash and any other flash? What if I want to put another off camera slave flash in group A? Do both get same settings? What if they are different powers….?? this is way off a wack!
    And also having only 3 groups instead of the regular 5 like the Xpro trigger is a big bummer. V860II has a better on camera master design and functionality than this BS!
    Make mater – M, and give us 5 groups to control! That must be fixed in Firmware right away!!!

    • Andy 8 months ago

      ‘M’ is the master group on Nikon and other brands.
      ‘A’ is the master group on Canon.

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Hi Alex,

      As Andy mentioned, A is the master Group on the Canon flash system. The V1 sample flash I have here is actually a Nikon version and it does have the M Group as the on-camera flash. So no need to worry about that.

      Regarding 3 remote groups instead of 5, again I would say that has been done mainly because 4 groups fit into the interface nicely (one on camera, 3 remote).

      There is always room for improvement, but I would have to say this Master interface is far better, quicker and easier to use than the V860II. Godox have at least learnt from the success of the R2 PRO II transmitter that the interface is important to people and will sell products.

  12. Ganesh Naravian 8 months ago

    Any details about modelling led output Watts. Same output as H200R

  13. Alex 8 months ago

    Окау, interesting. I didnt know that about A and M. But possibly the reason is Nikon only has 3 groups and Canon 5 on their own flashes. Which still begs the question, does A (master) flash affects group A remote flash? Can someone explain? I am very curious to know how that exactly works?

    AS far as 3 vs 5 gorups for “space” issue, there is always way to make setting in menu for (3 vs 5 groups), like how we have for the channels or 1/128 vs 1/256 and etc. Having 5 groups will make them smaller, but can fit all. MY eyes are good, I can perfectly see my Xpro. Which means, Such thing as putting 5 groups with firmware is absolutly possible!

  14. Alex 8 months ago

    Also, on the photo above I see the flash shown as master with A, B, C, D. If Nikon version has M instead of A, does that mean there is no D ? Thats getting pretty confusing…

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Yes the Nikon version has no Group D in the Master interface.

  15. Ricardo Gomez 8 months ago

    Nice looking unit that looks well thought out. Though at that price, I wouldn’t necessarily run out to get one over the V860II.

    The latter unit has been a stellar performer for me. I’ve used it at events shooting 1000+ images with it and still having plenty of power left over.

    While the round head on the new speedlight is itself not a big deal as I always use modifiers on the V860II and the light from the X R2 will still be quite harsh without one. But having the magnetic accessories is certainly nice. I think it would also be easier for third parties to build accessories for it as well. I love Gary Fong modifiers and won’t take the Godox-brand over them any time soon. But still there are many more modifiers out there that don’t use a round/magnetic connection. But really, how many options do you need?

    I like the USB-C connectivity and the minor performance improvements. Still, with an $80 difference, that’s two Godox 860II batteries…. These new speedlights will probably cause the 860IIs to drop in price a bit. I’ll probably go that route. I’ve had zero problems and fantastic performance with them.

    • Richard 8 months ago

      I agree with you Ricardo. The 860ll is a wonderful flash and whilst it is nice to see improvemnts to the user inferface, there is very little about this new flash that makes me want to upgrade to it.

    • Adam 8 months ago

      For those who prefer the 860II there should be a few used versions of those hitting ebay as people upgrade 🙂

  16. Indy 8 months ago

    It is nice to have a new model with updated electronics and probably a better battery. (I have had a few swell up after a year or so on my 850s and 860s).
    The round head will attract a lot of attention but in real life will have scant effect on images. What makes life better for photographers are those features that make accurate exposures easier and more flexible whatever mode you choose.
    As I shoot exclusively manual none of the Master/Slave/TTL features are of interest. What IS of interest and is lamentable unchanged is the power switch that WILL UNINTENTIONALLY SWITCH ON when jostled in a camera bag. I really want a better switch that is reliably on or off only when I want it to be.

  17. mmmfotografie 8 months ago

    Hmmmmm, not even the implementation of the batteries do convince me.

    A few weeks ago I handled for the first time a Godox Speedlite and was conviced the head would not rotate. The distribitor said give it more force. It rotated and I put it back and walk away disbeliving what I just had to do.

    No Godox, this not good design.

  18. Jared 8 months ago

    I ordered two, one from Adorama and one from Fomito to see which one arrives first. I like lots of things about this new speedlite except for a few:

    I don’t like the USB battery charger at all (way too slow), or the fact that it’s a different battery than my 860II units.

    I also don’t like that they took away the ability to connect an older R1 receiver. I have been having lots of triggering issues with the R2 system (mainly on my AD600 Pro units, but also on my AD200 units and the 860II units) so if it’s something critical I switch to the older 433MHz R1 system and never get a misfire. When I say ‘never’ I mean 1 misfire out of 1170 images with the R1 system compared to 1 misfire out of 10 images for the R2 system.

    The TCM issue is hopefully something that can be handled in a firmware update.

    The autofocus pattern is especially annoying and I hope they improve it. I saw a video that Robert Hall did on this and it seemed like the autofocus assist was a little better. I guess we’ll wait and find out.

  19. Adam 8 months ago

    I must be a minority here because none of my batteries have swelled up and I don’t mind the head firmness much.

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      The head firmness is going to be more of a serious issue now that the lever lock clamping foot does not lock down as tight as you could do manually with the clamping ring.

      Unless you have a second hand free all the time to support the flash body while swiveling the head.

      If Godox don’t do something about this there are going to be major problems.

  20. acha 8 months ago

    Is Godox trying to raise its prices as its users grow? I feel the price is too high relative to V860ii. Don’t you guys agree?

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Acha, Godox have been trying to push the prices up to some degree with things like not offering non-TTL versions of the larger strobes, though with the speedlites they have been very conscious of not increasing the pricing when they have inexpensive competition from YongNuo etc and many other cheap speedlites available.

      And that has been the frustration with trying to get any improvements. That’s why I’ve been saying they likely need to offer a separate Pro version as well if we are going to make progress on a number of issues.

  21. Alex 8 months ago

    Sorry, I did not understand the problem with the “swiveling the head” ? Can you explain please? And, is there a chance we could possibly see PRO version of the small on camera flashes like this one? 🙂 Got me curious…

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      The Godox speedlights use a sticky grease in the flash head tilt and swivel which means you have to apply a fair amount of pressure to make the flash head move.

      The problem is if you don’t have 2 hands free (one to support the flash body, while the other is adjusting the flash head) it means the flash foot takes all the pressure, and it moves around in the camera hotshoe.

      That already caused problems with the V860II etc, but its going to be worse with the V1 as the lever clamping foot can not clamp down as tightly as the old manual locking ring.

      Regarding a PRO version of the V1 speedlight, there has been no discussion of that from Godox that I am aware of. I’m just saying if we were to try and improve things like the heat protection limits its likely going to add cost, and some people are already not happy about the current price, so it would make sense to be in a separate flash.

  22. Andy 8 months ago

    I have several Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 TTL, plus AK-R1 kit and S-R1 adapter. With S-R1 adapter, the light is even more due to the spread out of light. I’d like to see the comparison between Zoom Li-on R2 and Zoom Li-on X. If light pattern is not much different, I’d prefer get a few more S-R1 to use with my current Zoom Li-on R2. Honestly, the price of Zoom Li-on X keep me away.

  23. John Wilson 8 months ago

    It has grooves on the top and bottom of the head just like the AD200 round head. Any idea what they are for?

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Well Godox are going to have to at least make a new S-type bracket for these, so I would think that would be one reason they may have included the grooves. The flash head is an awkward shape for anything to get a secure grip on otherwise.

      They are likely are making allowance for some form of clip on accessories though as well.

      • John Wilson 8 months ago

        Yes, that was my guess. The AD200 round head will work in the existing S-Type bracket but it’s a bit fiddly. I used to with the new Aputure Fresnel 2x which has a rear lens close to the mount so you can’t use the bare bulb. I can fit it on the Ad400 too id I use the Profoto mount and a Profoto the Bowens adapter.

  24. Charles 8 months ago

    Any chance of a manual only version?

    I absolutely hate the TTL menu they put in the 860ii. It’s so much slower using the flash as a master trigger compared to the 850ii (bounce + off-camera setup). It’s only a few seconds extra but when I’m needing to change power right away during a wedding, the difference is huge.

    If they just want more money, then they can have my money and I’ll buy the TTL version but let me have the option to disable the TTL menu options.

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

      Hi Charles,

      The Master interface is much better than the V860II. You just press the required group button and adjust the power.

      Even the LINK button is quicker to go from Master to Single Flash use. As there are only 3 modes to scroll through, Single Flash, Master, and Slave.

      Its not quite as nice as we made the R2 PRO II transmitter, where you can quickly double tap groups On and Off, and just hit the SET button to quickly adjust the group used last etc, but its much better than the V860II.

  25. qliq 8 months ago

    Looks like the number of full power flashes has been changed to 480 instead of 650.
    Still a powerful contender.

  26. Beki 8 months ago

    I’ve already pre-ordered and am just anxious to hear when they’ll begin to ship them. I want to get it in my hands to see what it can really do.

  27. Author
    FLASH HAVOC 8 months ago

    UPDATE – Unfortunately I’m not making much progress with Godox regarding revising the swivel head.

    In combination with the new lever lock foot I think this is serious design fault.

    UPDATE – Discussions are ongoing again 🙂

    Further UPDATE – As is turns out Godox did eventually listen and revise the head tilt swivel to move more freely before the production models went out.

    The Sony version flash foot was also revised slightly, and there are plans for a partially metal foot more like the current high end Sony flash models have.

  28. Seamless Media 8 months ago

    Crippling the flash by removing the E group to more nicely fit the interface is a deal breaker for me. Canon’s ETTL system has as far as I know, the only 5 group, truly discrete 5 group system with independent sequential preflashes per group. (think of a real estate photo with a light hidden in each of 4 visible connected rooms, with the master lighting the main room, providing a proper power output for each.) Throwing away the ability to control all the groups that are available in the system is a real let down, especially when all the other flashes can. I mean how hard would it have been to add a long press or double press to the group D button to activate/adjust the E group?

  29. Ricardo Gomez 8 months ago

    I’ve been thinking about what I would consider an worthy $80 upgrade over the fantastic V860II flash and this is what I came up with:

    * OLED display. Or at least a very good LCD. The current liquid crystal versions just look so archaic. This would open the door to so many more interface options and functionality. Like a beginner/expert modes. Visual vs text on how your groups are configured. Actual colors used to better show your settings more clearly.

    I know a big reason for current displays is power consumption and possibly a minor 2nd one: memory usage and speed for the OS. But really, how often am I in the menu? I set it up and then maybe make some tweaks during at the beginning of the shoot. Then I forget about it.

    * Saved configurations. Especially useful with group configurations. Program them into your flash and save them with a useful name like: studio, weddings, events. When browsing through them, it will give you show you how the setting is configured. How about this: the option to allow all connected flashes to synchronize your saved configurations?

    * Higher-end build. First, I think the build quality on the V860II is stellar. As good if not better than any OEM. But there can still be improvements.
    – Better foot clamp design. I see where the new design is going. It reminds me of the Canon 580EXII foot clamp which I absolutely loved. Fast and secure. No fiddling.
    – Quieter zoom head. This is being a bit nit-picky. But would add to the “Pro” level of the flash. At best, completely silent. At worst, a tiny vibration of the motor working.

    * Built-in fast USB charging. As a pro, you should have enough batteries to make it through a shoot. But stuff happens. Like it’s so bright, that you’ve been having to shoot at full-power and you’ve gone though your spares. Or the shoot went much longer than expected.

    Then, you can plug in a simple USB-C cable into the flash and do a quick-charge that takes you back up to 20%+ in 15 minutes using a power bank or any 2.5A charger. You could even have the charger plugged in while the flash is being used.

    This would make it a real “Pro” or a real upgrade to the V860II especially considering the price change with the new model in my opinion.

    • Ricardo Gomez 8 months ago

      I wish there was a way to edit.. I meant LED instead of LCD. Duh!

  30. Lloyd Sturdy 8 months ago

    I’ve just very carefully tested the recycling time of my V860IIc and it’s a tad under 1.5 seconds so can’t see how this is an improvement (in terms of recycling time)

  31. John Wilson 8 months ago

    The V1c manual is online here http://www.godox.com/EN/InstructionManual/Godox_V1C_20190413.pdf

    Even my Godox’s low standard this is an awful manual. The illustrations have unreadable function button labels in the screen, it doesn’t even mention TCM.

    “This flash unit uses Li-ion polymer battery which has long runtime.
    The available charge-and-discharge times are 500.” What does that mean?

  32. Allen Gambrell 6 months ago

    I have received my V1C and V1S and there are some problems with the lights that need to be fixed in a firmware update. Both flashes are using firmware 1.2

    Flash Zoom Setting
    When you switch radio modes (on-camera, master, slave) the flash always sets the zoom of the head to Manual 28mm! Meaning every time you switch you have to set the zoom back to auto, each time. This also means that when you put it in slave mode you must also change it to auto to be able to control the zoom from the transmitter. The flash should remember what the last setting was and keep it there.

    Modeling light
    The flash also forgets the power of the modeling light when you turn the flash off and on. It needs to remember the last setting. Also there are way too many button presses to turn the modeling light on and off.
    Here is the procedure just to turn on the modeling light.
    1 – Press the right wheel button to enter the modeling light menu
    2 – Press the center button
    3 – Spin the wheel to the correct brightness
    4 – Press center button
    5 – Press the soft button to exit the modeling light menu (not even the modeling light button you had to press t o get here, but a different one!)

    It should be as simple as
    1 – press the right wheel (modeling light button)
    2 – spin to brightness
    3 – press right wheel (modeling light button) or both the center button to exit

    Also if double tap the right wheel (modeling light button) it should instanly turn on/off the modleing light to the last used brightness.

    Slave Mode
    The Flash does not remember the group it was in the last time. Every time you enter slave mode it is set to A and you must change it. The last setting needs to be remembered.

    Master Mode – Cannot exit HSS
    In master mode there is no way to get out of High Speed Sync mode HHS. There are sometimes when I do not want the flash to enter HSS because of the loss of power.

    Master Mode – No TCM function
    The fact that you cannot use the TCM function in master mode takes alot of value out of the flash. I just cannot believe that they have this great feature, yet they choose not to include it just to dumb down the interface! I thought this was to be the PRO flash! The Profoto has a entire dedicated button on it just for that function.

    Master Mode – Cannot control all flashes.
    They need to add the option to control all the slave flashes from the user interface.
    With the Canon you can control A, B, C, D. No control of E
    With the Sony you can control M (On camera flash), A, B, C. No control of D or E.
    I know this was done to enable the new method of control with the soft buttons, but we are loosing alot of functions especially on the the sony model.

    A option needs to be added to change the far right soft button (D on Canon, C on Sony) to go to another page that would allow us control of all the other flashes. The would also give them places to put a TCM button and a HSS button. This could be added to the menu for the customer to turn on and off. Call it the PRO Mode.

    Overall the flash is a good flash, but except for the round head it is no different than a 860II and even less functional in some areas. The only reason I bought them at this point was because a needed 2 more flashes to cover multiple events in one night, I thought why not get the latest and greatest. I almost wish now I would have spent less and got the more 860II flashes instead.

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 6 months ago

      Hi Allen,

      Thanks for the detailed feedback.

      Regarding the extra Groups and TCM in Master Mode, these have already been discussed and I don’t think I can convince Godox to add those unless Flashpoint end up commissioning a separate version of the flash. Feel free to contact Godox directly though and share your thoughts on those (if they hear it enough it may eventually convince them).

      Regarding the Zoom Setting memory, Slave Group memory, LED light control, and HSS selection in Master Mode, I think we should be able to get those updated. The LED light control sequence is currently ridiculous, and for the HSS I would just add a double press of the MODE button on the dial to exit and enter HSS.

      How is the Hotshoe fit with your V1C and Canon cameras by the way? (is there much movement side to side as you twist the flash?). A few people have said already the flash head swivels easier than their V860II, so it appears Godox did finally take notice of what I was saying. And I know the Sony foot is a neat fit, I’m just wondering if they may have updated the foot on the other versions to a neater fit as well.

  33. Andy 6 months ago

    While photographing t9, one of my associate use V1 for Sony. It looks like a nice flash. Regarding to swivel head, it is clearly easier to turn than V860II. The foot at hot shoes is tight fit. I’m not sure about Canon version though.

  34. Maxim Dupliy 6 months ago

    Hi
    How is the focus assist(Nikon version only) compares to genuine Nikon sb- speedlite FA?
    Anyone tested it?
    And how V1 focus assist compares to tt685N (nikon version)

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 6 months ago

      Hi Maxim,

      The V1 appears to have been released with the same AF light as the TT685 (and V860II etc) as seen here.

      Which are pretty average, because the cameras AF points can easily fall between any of the lines.

      I know Godox were working on a new pattern though which has more lines, horizontal, vertical, and diagonal. Though I don’t know what has happened with that or when it may possibly be added.

    • Roman Makhmutov 6 months ago

      Hi Maxim, the AF assist on V1 is miles ahead of genuine nikon. The reason is that genuine nikon assist is infamous for causing a heavy back focus issue, and I could use af assist for my 1.4 primes at all. But v1 nails it and it’s great. There’s another design flaw in v1, I keep pushing the lowest dial button with my forehead changing the settings on the flash all the time.

  35. qliq 6 months ago

    One of the issues that have been bantered about on this discourse has been power/recycle/longevity of the Zoom Li-on X/A1 for the Canon EOS cameras, especially.
    There is no way to turn off the HSS when the R2/X2 Radio system GR mode is employed.
    HSS technology for focal plane shutters requires a ‘trick’ that utilizes more energy and has use limitations due to that method. Keeping HSS active while shooting an event of a sequence of images may cause the flash to overheat and slow down the recycle time in order to compensate for the built-up temperature plaguing the unit.
    The solution the problem is very simple.
    Turn off HSS from the camera menu. While the ZLX/A1 speedlight is attached to the camera, go to the Menu > “External Speedlight Control” > “Flash function settings” and select “First curtain” for the sync selection, thereby releasing the HSS mode from the attached ZLX/Ai flash. The HSS icon disappears from the LCD on the flash and normal recycle times insue.
    Remember, this is not a default on the flash. You have to do this trick every time the flash is turned on.
    I imagine that all the other camera models that force HSS to be trigger from their camera menus, would work the same way.
    Hope this helps.

    • Andy 5 months ago

      Thanks for the trick.
      Last night, I use V1 for the wedding as main flash on camera to control other off camera flash. I set V1 to ETTL with -1 and the flash quickly overheat! The recycle time is absolutely slow and HSS sign is always on. I just update V1 to firmware 1.3 which claims better heat protection control and your trick. Will do this next week.
      Other than that, I like the flash, especially ETTL is way better than V680II which is not too bad.

  36. Andy 5 months ago

    I saw the same issue of HSS always on when in GR mode. It’s annoying. However, the first day I received V1 from Adorama, the unit is defect. I hear some loosing screw or object banging around inside the flash body. Will call Adorama tomorrow to return it. I hope they won’t charge me the shipping cost as their flash is at fault.

  37. Thomas Yau 5 months ago

    shoot an event last week and found a serious problem with the Fujifilm version.
    Camera setting is manual, flash setting is TTL, after some shots, the flash will automatically output at about 1/8 the power, making the photo underexposed, but screen of it still shows that it is in TTL mode. Another time is that after a few shots, the TTL output was found to be -3 steps (shown on flash LCD screen). Seems unstable output and unknown isssue of the TTL setting. Hope that this will be fixed after a firmware update in the future

  38. Andy 5 months ago

    FYI, Firmware V1.3 seems to solve the issue of HSS sign always on when shooting in GR mode (Canon).

  39. David 4 months ago

    so this won’t work with a 70-200mm lens, because it only works to 105mm?

    • John Wilson 4 months ago

      Hi David!

      Like the Profoto A1 and the Canon 430EX-II RT, which also have a maximum zoom of 105mm, it will work with a 200mm lens. The light from the flash will fill the frame when the strobe is zoomed to 105mm. You will get slightly less light entering the frame.

  40. quky 4 months ago

    i just saw a firmware upgrade on adorama web site v1.4 for the Zoom Li-on X can i apply it to the Godox V1-S.\on godox web site it is still at v1.3
    thanks in advance.

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 4 months ago

      Hi quky,

      Yes you can use the Flashpoint V1.4 firmware with your V1-S.

      V1.4 was posted on the Godox website, though now that you mention it I see it looks like they have taken it down.

      And that may be a good sign that Godox may be refining a few things a bit more. We originally asked them to make the flash remember the Zoom Setting when changing modes (Master, Slave etc), remember the Slave Group, make the LED light easier to operate, and add a HSS ON / OFF function.

      But with the V1.4 update the LED light still takes 3 button presses just to turn it ON and OFF, and they didn’t add the HSS ON / OFF function.

      So I said I didn’t want to put a post up on this if they were possibly still going to refine these further as people will just get confused. So I can only hope they have also removed the firmware from the download page for that reason.

      All we are asking for now, in addition to what they have already done in V1.4, is to add a shortcut to double press the modelling light button to turn it On and Off quickly. And possibly add an icon to the LCD to show when its on. Also to hold the SET button to turn HSS ON and OFF.

      These were not our originally suggested ways of implementing these things, though its been a bit of a battle to get this far, and they would do the job ok now if implemented.

  41. quky 4 months ago

    As always thanks for your help and dedication helping the community.

  42. Steve 3 months ago

    Anyone know where to buy replacement hotshoes for the V1 flash? I have two broken ones and can’t find a replacement. Thanks.

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