GODOX AD-B2 / FLASHPOINT EVOLV TWIN HEAD – Bracket Announced

Flashpoint EVOLV Twin Head

 

Flashpoint have announce the all important EVOVL Twin Head Bracket / Godox AD-B2, which will combine two EVOLV 200 / Godox AD200 strobes into a single 400Ws light source, with Bowens S-type mount, and dual LED modelling lights!

And the brackets are available for pre-order now from Adorama for $59.

 

Flashpoint EVOLV Twin Head

 

The twin bracket can use either the original 2 flash bulbs straight from the EVOLV 200 /AD200 strobes, or an optional single AD360/II flash bulb centered in the bracket.

UPDATE – Godox have actually changed the bracket before the final production to only accept a single AD200 bulb centered in the bracket, for use with only one strobe mounted. So the AD360/II bulb will not longer fit in the bracket (as pictured below).

 

Flashpoint EVOLV Twin Head

 

And the twin bracket itself remains nice and compact for transport.

 

Flashpoint EVOLV Twin Head

 

Regular Bowens S-type modifiers and reflectors can then be easily attached to the convenient 400Ws twin flash set up.

 

 

Flashpoint EVOLV Twin Head

 

The EVOLV 200 / AD200, and full Godox 2.4GHz flash system are now compatible with Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, and Olympus / Panasonic camera systems.

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The Godox AD-B2 / EVOVL Twin Head Bracket are available now from $59 –

Adorama, Amazon, UK, Ebay

 

Flashpoint – Website

EVOLV / AD200 – Overview

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65 Comments
  1. Nismode 4 months ago

    I wonder how bright those modeling lamps are…bright enough to do video with?

    Also, I mean if you have 2 AD200s I guess this would be worthwhile, but the AD600 would still be more powerful and take less time to setup, no?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 months ago

      Hi Nismode,

      The LED’s were meant to be the same as the AD600B, so 2 of them should be 20W (and not obstructed by the flash tube like the AD600). Flashpoint haven’t provided a spec though so I’m not completely sure yet.

      Regarding power, placing the strobe a little further into the softbox one AD200 is only a stop less than the AD600B, so its pretty likely a twin AD200 set up like this will only be around 1/3 or a stop less power than the AD600B.

      I don’t think the point is really comparing to the AD600B though, the advantage here is you can have a few lights all the same, using the same batteries etc, and combine them into more powerful strobe when needed. Because often people only use one strobes outdoors to complement the sun etc, where indoors more individual lights may be of more use.

      The other major point of the bracket in my original design was to provide a solid modelling light for single flash use as well. Godox have not implemented the on-board battery compartment though, so I’m not actually sure what will be available with single strobe use yet.

      The standard AD360 flash tube option is much cheaper than a custom dual filament flash tube would be though, so that’s certainly a win.

      With single of dual flash tubes fitted you could likely have this set up in the bag ready to do though, just like the AD600B.

    • Mariosch 4 months ago

      Yes, AD600 should be about half a stop brighter than this (in theory, using the spec values).
      A single AD600 will probably also be cheaper than two AD200 + this bracket.

      If your intention is using one powerful light, the AD600 would be the way to go. I think this is more intended for people already having more than one AD200 or want to get a second one to use as two lights most of the time, but combine them if needed.
      Like, usually using one as key and one as fill or as a back-/rimlight, but if you want to dial down the sun a bit just throw both together and join forces….

    • Chris 4 months ago

      you can use one battery and 2 bulbs.

  2. John Wilson 4 months ago

    Wonder what happens if you put them in different groups and select different power when using the single bulb?

    Also I assume you can just use one AD600 in the bracket and get the advantage of a modeling light.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 months ago

      Hi John,

      Yes, it will be interesting to see what the flash durations are like with the single bulb as well. I’m really surprised Godox managed to connect 2 strobes to one flash bulb like this.

      Regarding the single flash use, I’m really not sure yet. If you saw my original suggestions, making use of the modelling light with single flash use was one of the major functions. Though Godox haven’t implemented the on-board battery compartment, so I’m not sure if both LED lights will function with just one strobe attached.

      I would expect at least one LED light will work, and hopefully one strobe will work ok with the single AD360 flash tube centered as well. If both LED’s work that would go through batteries quickly, though it would be better to at least have that option.

  3. Andy 4 months ago

    Will it just be Adorama carrying this, or will there be a Godox version available from usual Godox sellers?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 months ago

      Hi Andy,

      As far as I know there should be Godox branded versions available as well.

  4. nixland 4 months ago

    How about the total weight, is both heavier than 1 AD600 ?

  5. Ulysses 4 months ago

    Nixland, I was wondering the same thing, so put together a little guesstimate. I wanted to compare the estimated weight of such a twin-head bracket with that of an AD360II mounted in a standard Speed Pro S bracket. Here’s what I come up with:

    The twin head bracket loaded with two AD200 flashes is 5 lbs 2 oz. A standard Speed Pro S bracket with AD360II is only 4 lbs 6.5 oz (not counting the power cable).

    To see how I believe it breaks down, check my simple diagram at https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LstmSqS/0/56ce67bd/O/i-LstmSqS.jpg

  6. Motti 4 months ago

    One thing concerns me is that the flashes are held to the bracket by the four hinges made to hold the flash head. Are they strong enough?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 months ago

      I think the pins are more than strong enough to hold the weight of the strobes.

      Though I think the main issue to some degree was always going to be what happens if a stand goes over etc. And when you think about it, in that case I would prefer the pins in the bracket to break rather than the joiner plate being torn from the strobe (with the bracket being cheaper to replace than a strobe).

      The other thing is it will be hard to resist tilting a softbox etc by holding the strobe bodies. That in time could cause issues with the connections. That’s why I suggested an optional handle in the original design suggestion. That could be used to tilt the bracket as well as a handle for had holding the strobe.

      I don’t think Godox have made any allowance for that though, unless you possibly used the umbrella mount hole to attach a DIY handle.

  7. Adam 4 months ago

    I’m interested. Let’s all try to guess at the price. $150?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 months ago

      Close – $59 🙂

  8. Ole Sollie 4 months ago

    I’m a bit sceptic on this one.
    Have 2 AD600, 1 AD360 1 AD200 and a little V860II, so I’m all in fanboying Godox… BUT!

    The single AD200 is not too strong when fighting the sun, may very well be good enough for facial portraits.
    My flash struggled a bit with overheating(i think, it stopped working for a few minutes every now and then) when I used it with my Godox foldable beautydish softbox.
    With an umbrella I did not have this issue.

    But the question is how it will do when 2 of them are together and you put a modifier on them, will they overheat then as well?

    What I plan to use it for however is to put some light on backgrounds and/or hair.
    The small format should make it perfect for this, but then the dual link bracket won’t really be needed.

  9. Ed 4 months ago

    Adorama’s website now states “Item is no longer available”.

  10. C. Stephen Hurst 4 months ago

    Funny. They (Adorama) have since removed the product on their website? The link has been replaced with the Evolv Head. Above the product and Highlighted in yellow: “This item replaces the Flashpoint Evolv Twin Head-Bowens Mount”

  11. Andy 4 months ago

    Can you use just one flash in the bracket?… with just one bulb plugged in?
    And could that be be either an AD200 or AD360ii bulb?

    Thinking of getting this while I still only have one AD200, and would bring it along instead of an S bracket.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 months ago

      Hi Andy,

      I’ve asked to see if I can get any clarification on that. I’m also curious to know if either or both of the LED modelling lights will function with a single flash mounted.

      From the beginning I tried to stress the point of this bracket was as much to provide a solid modelling light for single flash use, as to provide a dual flash bracket. That’s why to be practical an on-board battery option would have been a big help.

      Godox have obviously opted for a low price point though, which personally I don’t think was necessary, though you can’t have everything.

      • Andy 4 months ago

        Thanks. Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. Use the bracket instead of a standard S bracket, and have the use of the modelling light.
        I presume each modelling light would run separately from each AD200’s battery?

  12. Mark Kitaoka 4 months ago

    I’m excited to try this. The options and flexibility of the Godox line amazes me.

  13. Mark Kitaoka 3 months ago

    Is there a view of this unit to show how the 200s attach to the bracket?

  14. Harold Clark 3 months ago

    When using multiple strobes, often they all have to be fairly close in output. When using 600s, this dual setup is close enough in output to be useful in combination with the 600, or could serve as backup in case of failure of one 600.

    Similarly two speed lights could serve las backup to a 200. Godox is extremely versatile in this regard since everything works from the same trigger system.

  15. Ricardo Gomez 3 months ago

    Ever since the X1T-O, I started taking Godox much more seriously and figuring out how I should start investing in the system. The EVOLV 200 is a really interesting item. You could go fresnel, bare-bulb and soon LED. They should take a decent beating due to their lack of moving parts. Now, you can pair them together. Giving you just .5 stops less than the full AD600. For about $100 less including the bracket. Impressive.

    Been trying to figure out where to start. As a frugal photographer, I need to figure out where to start. I thought the AD600’s were the obvious start. But even when paired and the bracket, the AD600 is 2x as heavy. With 98% of my outdoor shoots, using one speed lite to power a small to medium modifier has been more than enough. Even for longer shoots. I think I got about 700 shots on a fairly bright day before I started noticing the longer recycle times.

    So for now, I think it’s the EVOLV 200 and one bracket when I want to pair them up to use a big modifier in the studio. Then a couple move EVOLV 200s for a couple of other modifiers or spare. I should be able to pack 4 of these into a medium-sized pelican case and that will work for a small to medium-sized shoot. Possibly all day.

    I think the EVOLV 200s give us a third option when lighting and really, a smart move for Godox. While I can still use speedlites for location work, the power, toughness (I think) and versatility of the EVOLV 200s are too much to pass on. Speedlites will be relegated to mostly event photography which I have to have as well. Which is more investment and more bottom line for Godox. I don’t consider this a “milking me for every penny” move though. I consider this a “being more efficient on shoot day” kind of move. Instead of 50lbs of gear, I can shrink that down to 20lbs. Or instead of 6 items, 3 will do.

    I got a feeling the Godox designers got to be real photographers and have a good amount of say at their company. Provide really great low-medium cost systems for a few more years to develop a great reputation and culture. Then, if they want, they’ve built the reputation to move into the pro market with 1000w+ lighting systems and beyond. If they keep innovating the way they have, that will be one great future.

  16. qliq 3 months ago

    To answer the question concerning the functionality of the modeling light with just ONE eVOLV:
    Yes! The LED lights with just ONE eVOLV200/AD200 mounted on the TWIN Head.
    The answer to the assembly:
    Simply line up the eVOLV to the mounting dock, slide her until it locks and you’re in business.

    What a great light, this eVOLV200! Just used them (barebulb head) in Flashpoint Hexapop’s for light modification. Fantastic lighting with portability and quality.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Great thanks for that qliq!

  17. Aaron Yang 3 months ago

    What’s the major advantage of this setup over the AD360II? I know obviously you get 40W more power, but the entire setup is so much more expensive. How does the recycle time compare?

    • Greg Dunn 3 months ago

      The advantage is that if you already have 2 AD200s you can combine them. It’s not designed to be a replacement for the AD360 (which incidentally is just a smidgen over 300 Ws, nowhere near 360).

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      That’s an interesting thought about the recycle time. At the same light output the AD360II and single AD200 are pretty much equal (that’s setting the AD360II 1/3rd of a stop less than the AD200 to keep the light output equal).

      So with two AD200 combined set to match the light output of one AD360II, the recycle time should be considerably faster. If I calculate right (both AD200 set to 1/2 +0.3) recycle should be around 1 second!
      .

      Another considerable advantage is that the AD360II do not have any practical modelling light option available.

      • Jacques Cornell 2 months ago

        “At the same light output the AD360II and single AD200 are pretty much equal”
        Unless you use the $12 DB-02 cable to combine the PB960’s two ports, in which case the AD360’s recycle time is cut in half. Best $12 I ever spent on lighting.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 2 months ago

          That is using the DB-02 cable though. Without that the AD360II is considerably slower than the AD200.

  18. Ed 3 months ago

    Does anyone know if this will be available directly from Godox or other Godox dealers? I’m in Hong Kong.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Hi Ed,

      Flashpoint haven’t mentioned any exclusive deal so I think they should be available as the Godox AD-B2 from usual Godox dealers.

      Hopefully Flashpoint get them first though 🙂

  19. Peter Kent 3 months ago

    This would double the Guide Number to GN 120m right?

  20. Vince 3 months ago

    Does anyone know when it will be available?

    • Kent 3 months ago

      Ive yet to see a release date. I got one preordered! Anyone know when the release is?

  21. Author
    Flash Havoc 2 months ago

    UPDATE – There is a limited shipment of the eVOLV Twin Head arriving this week!

  22. Mike 2 months ago

    Just received my factory sample yesterday so I can start testing it. Feels really solid,

    Mike

  23. Frank 2 months ago

    Hy

    I would just be interested to know if the release of the twinhead with other mounts like Elinchrom can be expected?

  24. mike 2 months ago

    Not having the LED in the middle of the bulb and having 2 of them certainly gives more light https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNP6CqO2l4E – some interesting things are coming out of the testing such as the AD360 bulb only uses power from the AD200 in position 1 (so the AD200 in position 2 only powers the LED in a single bulb setup) and the flash duration (t0.1) when using the AD360 bulb with this setup is about 1/374 seconds compared to it being used on an AD360 head where it is about 1/220 second

  25. mike 2 months ago

    An LED will only come on if an AD200 is attached on that side, so you need 2 AD200s attached (and powered on) to use both LEDs – the AD-B2 box makes no mention of using the AD360 bulb but does recommend if only using 1 AD200 that the centre socket should be used for the AD200 bulb (makes sense for even light dispersion) and the AD200 attached to position 1

    Mike

  26. mike 2 months ago

    From information I am receiving and from my own testing it appears that the AD-B2 is not designed to use the AD360 bulb at all.

    Mike

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 months ago

      That’s interesting thanks mike, maybe Godox have made some changes to the bracket along the way then.

      The Flashpoint listing still says to only use the AD360 bulb in the center socket. Though they mentioned both LED’s operate with one flash as well, so maybe the configuration has changed before final release.

      Have you tried a 360 bulb in the center socket yourself?

      • mike 2 months ago

        Yes, the AD360 bulb does not fit unless you modify the AD-B2, definitely 1 LED off of an individual AD200 and only position 1 can use the centre socket – it kind of makes sense, why would you carry an AD360 bulb to use this?

        The AD-B2 box which has the instructions printed on makes no mention of the AD360 bulb at all

        Mike

        • John Wilson 2 months ago

          That’s odd. This video shows an AD360 bulb mounted an AD-B2 and doesn’t say that he had to modify the mount https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0QHeiEH6L0

          The comments on the power output are interesting too

          • Mike 2 months ago

            As I said I have been conversing with Rob on this, his video has or will be edited to remove AD360 bulb info which he tested due to the wrong info on the Adorama website.

            • John Wilson 2 months ago

              So if I understand correctly, Mike. You can put an AD360 bulb in the centre position but if you do it is only powered by one of the AD200s?

              That makes sense, explains the rather odd results that Rob reported and saves me £50 🙂

              • mike 2 months ago

                No, you can not use the AD360 Bulb, it does not fit, but if you do modify the bracket then you have an AD360 bulb only getting 200 watt/s of power, so no advantage – the centre hole is purely for using a single AD200 with AD200 bulb to get an even light pattern.

                Mike

                • Author
                  Flash Havoc 2 months ago

                  Thanks mike.

                  I received a confirmation from Flashpoint that Godox have changed the final version of the bracket (without letting them know) so they only accept an AD200 bulb centered in the bracket for single flash use. The AD360 / Streaklight 360 bulb will no longer fit.

                  I can see why Godox may have decided to go that way (so you don’t need to buy a different 360 bulb), though I wonder if the twin bulbs have any negative effect on the light patter when using a modifier like a beauty dish.

  27. Fletcher Davies 2 months ago

    My AD-B2 arrived today, so have been having a play. The LED lights are a great little feature, three levels of brightness and when both are on and on brightest setting, they are providing a mini modeling light that does work. If you set both lights to there brightest setting you can then turn them off with XT-1 triggerby double clicking the CHCH button, love this little feature, I can see exactly where the shadows are falling. Godox keep up the great inovation, I am a very happy customer.

  28. Allen Gambrell 2 months ago

    I got my dual bracket in yesterday from adorama. Whoever designed this thing made a major mistake.
    Each on the 2 lights mount on the bracket with the 1/4 20 treaded hole to the between the 2 lights. So to mount both lights you have to remove whatever stand mount you have on the flash to be able to put both lights on it.
    This makes in almost unusable for me, I have arca swiss rails mounted on the bottom on each flash, and would have to remove them every time I want to put them on the bracket! The mounting holes should have been designed so they were on the outside, but I guess godox (adorama) wanted to see the logos on the flashes more than the ability to use it quickly.

  29. Jules 2 months ago

    Thanks Fletcher very much for your info. Can you confirm if a single AD200 will light up all the modelling LEDs?

    • mike 2 months ago

      Each LED is lit by a single AD200, hence for 2 LEDs you need 2 AD200s

      Mike

  30. Mark Kitaoka 2 months ago

    I’ve posted my initial findings of the AD-B2 on my blog:
    http://www.markkitaoka.com/latest-news/flashpoint-ad-b2-initial-findings/

  31. Mark Kitaoka 2 months ago

    I have updated my ADB2 post which includes my way of improving the dreaded ratcheting handles of the Bowens S Bracket as well as the ADB2.
    http://www.markkitaoka.com/latest-news/flashpoint-ad-b2-initial-findings/

  32. Author
    Flash Havoc 2 months ago

    I just received the eVOLV twin head bracket and gave it a run against the XPLOR / AD600B, and the AD600B is only 0.1 stops ahead in power using a Glow ParaPop 38″ softbox.

    The twin AD200 are slightly lighter, recycle a little faster, and the modelling light is over twice as bright as the AD600B.

    I still don’t think the twin AD200 completely replaces the AD600B, though the twin bracket certainly makes an awesome versatile addition to the AD200 kit.

    • Giovanni 2 months ago

      Hi, you said the modelling lightis over twice as bright as the ad600. Is it with one led only or with both leds with two ad 200s attached on it?
      Do you think that with just one led on, it is still brighter because the led on the ad600 is obstructed by the flash tube?

      • mike 2 months ago

        Yes, but we are talking maybe 10-12% brighter, when testing the AD600 against both LEDs on the AD200 I measured about 120-125% brighter

        Mike

  33. andrew 1 month ago

    Hello all how about high speed sync with two units connected. Has any one tried it yet.

  34. Paul Parkinson 4 weeks ago

    I’m shooting with Elinchrom but planning a switch out of Eli lights and in to Godox. This unit looks like it’ll do a good job for me but it only seems to be available in Bowens mount.

    Has anyone seen anything about availability of the AD-B2 with Elinchrom fitting (perhaps an AD-E2!) ??

    Or any ideas about using it the AD-B2 with Elinchrom gear?

    Thanks!!

    • John Wilson 4 weeks ago

      You can get Bowens to Elinchrom adapters. It means that the tube will be an inch or so further back in the modifier which may change the light produced a bit. That being said the Elinchrom tubes lie flat against the head whereas the Godox tube protrudes so the two things may well cancel out.

      A brave man might buy a AD-B2 and an S-EC bracket and see if you can replace the front of the AD-B2 with the front of the S-EC. If you are that brave man let us know how you get on 🙂

  35. Mark Kitaoka 1 week ago

    Is there any information regarding how the bracket may or may not affect the ‘sleep mode’ of eVOLV200s? On a recent shoot I was using two 200s in a AD-B2 and they ran out of battery before the end of the session. I have all of them set to sleep after 30 minutes.

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