GODOX AD200 WITSTRO – Cordless TTL Strobe Released

GODOX AD200

 

Godox have started releasing images of the soon to be announced Godox AD200 Witstro cordless strobe.

The AD200 are a 200Ws cordless Lithium-ion powered TTL and HSS enabled strobe with Godox 2.4GHz X-system radio receiver built inside (currently for Canon, Nikon, and Sony).

 

GODOX AD200

 

Being dedicated off camera flashes (they have no hotshoe) the AD200 provide similar compact size of a speedlite though with some added power.

While also featuring an interchangeable flash head which provides the option of either bare bulb or traditional speedlite fresnel head.

 

GODOX AD200

 

The AD200 can be mounted via a 1/4″ 20 threaded mounting hole on either side of the flash (allowing landscape or portrait orientation when using the speedlite head).

 

GODOX AD200

 

GODOX WITSTRO AD200 FEATURES

 

  • Power – 200Ws
  • Bare Bulb Head – GN 60m, ISO 100 (AD360 reflector)
  • Speedlite Head – GN 52m ISO 100
  • Flash Modes – TTL / M / Multi
  • HSS to 1/8000th
  • FEC / FEB – 1/3rd Increments (±3 Stops)
  • FEL (Flash Exposure Lock)
  • Manual Flash – 1/128 – 1/1 Output (1/3rd Increments)
  • Godox 2.4GHz X Radio System
  • Canon, Nikon, Sony, Radio Slave Modes (Auto Switching)
  • Range – 100m + with X1 as Transmitter
  • Groups – A / B / C / D / E
  • 32 Channels
  • S1/S2 Optic Slave Modes
  • Flash Duration Frensel Head – 1/220s – 1/13000s
  • Flash Duration Speedlite Head – 1/220s – 1/11300s
  • Color Temperature – 5600 +/- 200k
  • 14.4V 2900mAh Lithium-ion Battery
  • 520 Full Power Flashes
  • 0.01 – 2.1 Second Recycle Time
  • Custom Functions
  • Auto Memory Function
  • LED Modelling Light (Fresnel Head Only)
  • USB Port for Firmware Upgrades
  • 3.5mm Sync Port

 

More detail coming as they become available.

 

Godox AD200

 

GODOX AD200

 

GODOX AD200

 

UPDATE – Adorama now have the Flashpoint version eVOLV 200 TTL available for pre-order now for $329.95.

 

GODOX AD200

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The Godox AD200 / eVOLV 200 are available now from $299 –

Adorama, Ebay, Amazon, UK

 

Godox – Website

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277 Comments
  1. Chad Philp 3 weeks ago

    Does this kit come with the trigger?
    If not, which ones will work and how much do they cost?

    Thanks

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 weeks ago

      Hi Chad,

      Some sellers will likely offer bundle deals with a transmitter included, though the strobe itself does not normally come with a transmitter.

      If you want the full TTL capability, you will need the Godox X1T / Flashpoint R2 transmitter. And they are available in Canon, Nikon, or Sony, versions.

      There is also the XT-32, and XT-16 transmitters which are Remote Manual only, though the XT-32 still provide HSS.

      There is more information on the Godox System Overview here. I’m working on updating that to include the AD200 etc.

  2. Tim Parker 3 weeks ago

    Can I trigger the Godox Witstro AD200 with a pocket wizard?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 weeks ago

      Hi Tim,

      Yes as long as you attach a PocketWizard receiver to that flash via sync cord (3.5mm miniphone plug).

  3. Mr. Paul Ellis 3 weeks ago

    Elvis, how do you think these compare directly to the AD180 in light output, battery power, recycling time (compared with the Y-cord) and number of pops? The AD200 is a very neat package and looks to me to be much quicker to set up than the AD180.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 weeks ago

      Hi Paul,

      I don’t have an AD180 here to compare directly now. Though more of the problem a the moment is the people are reporting quite different power results with their sample units. So I really need to wait for some production units to get a more accurate idea. Godox could easily use a different flash bulb or even dial the power up down in the flash.

      The AD200 recycle time is a little better than the AD360II with Y cord, so its definitely not going to match the AD180 with Y cord. That’s the trade off though for a much simpler compact unit.

      My sample is only 0.3 stops behind the AD360II though, so in that case there is hardly any trade off at all. Recycle is almost equal at the same power output.

  4. Chris McCooey 2 weeks ago

    How the heck do you attach a softbox to these?

  5. zoltandezoltan 2 weeks ago

    As I understand, there is no option to attach PB960 external battery pack to the AD200, it that right?

    • zoltandezoltan 2 weeks ago

      Also, any news on how much an extra battery will cost for the AD200?

    • Mike 2 weeks ago

      no external battery option

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 weeks ago

      Hi Zoltan,

      No there is no external HV battery port provided with the AD200.

      There is one WB29 battery listed on Ebay for $64.95, so that may at least be some indication of the price.

  6. Robert Montoya 2 weeks ago

    It look like adorama Flashpoint eVOLV 200 will ship 4/4/2017

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 weeks ago

      Great thanks Robert!

  7. Joel Richards 2 weeks ago

    Wish the flash head was zoomable (even manually). Do you know if Godox plans to release any at different zoom settings? Or a swappable fresnel lens?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 weeks ago

      Hi Joel,

      Godox originally mentioned a number of accessories they were considering, and a zoom head was not even on the list unfortunately.

      A dual bracket mount was though, and I agreed that would be my priority, though I also explained to them the other main priority (well above the other accessories) would be a zoom head, even if it was manual only.

      They came back saying they would do a dual S-type mount (though no confirmation on included a modeling light), and separate flash and LED ring light heads.

      So that’s all I know at this stage. And I’ve been pressing them for an upgrade to the V860II or master flash at the moment as well, and still waiting to hear back on that, as well as various things along the way with the transmitter. So I have to give them some time before trying to get some answers on their intentions with the AD200.

      Having said all that, a zoom head is so obvious (even if Godox don’t realise it just yet) I think its just a matter of when than if. But when may be quite some time away (if we can’t possibly get them to see reason earlier).

      • Jan Niolas 2 weeks ago

        To start with, I want to express my appreciation for your work and engagement with your readers. Thanks!
        When I first read about the AD200 I was quite disappointed when I understood that the ‘normal’ head would not include a zoom function. While I understand some of the thoughts that probably lead to such a decision, I still think Godox missed a huge opportunity leaving such an option out of the concept and the 35mm instead of 24mm doesn’t make things better. (And no, barn doors are not a substitute for zoom). With a zoom head I’d most likely stand in line to buy three or four of these to replace a majority of my strobes.
        The other element I can’t really understand is the limitation of firing the flash only when fully charged. Can you – or somebody else – at least try to explain to me the reason for such a limitation? Why shouldn’t I be able to fire two 1/2 power shots in rapid succession?
        3rd Could you comment on the connection between head[s] and body? Very prone to dust/slight humidity?
        Thanks, j.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 1 week ago

          Hi Jan,

          Thanks for that.

          I think the reason Godox would have chosen the 35mm is because they had to provide a balance between output and light spread/angle, while retaining a similar output to the standard reflector.

          Strobes don’t generally fire before they are fully recycled so that you know you’re going to get consistent light output at a certain power level etc. Though some speedlites do allow you to fire a little earlier than full recycle.

          For an off camera flash like the AD200 it wouldn’t hurt to have a separate mode allowing you to fire early, though it would want to be an option you can choose to turn on or off. I would guess where the feature may be more of a challenge to implement is when you start wanting to choosing a point where the output would be too low to waste the flash firing at all (when it could otherwise be recycling in that time to a usable level instead).

          The AD200 head connection is somewhat like a scaled down version of the AD600 battery connection. The electrical contacts are quite course (passing a fair amount of current to the flash tube etc) so they are not really fine electronics contacts. I don’t think dust and humidity will generally be an issue there.

        • bob 1 week ago

          What sense does it make to fire when half charged? if you are metering and want consistent light you want the same amount each time.

          Mike

          • Greg 7 days ago

            Sometimes you’ll go several seconds without a photo opportunity, and then need a few shots very quickly – this is pretty common when shooting an indoor sport. If you’re in manual mode and shooting at (say) 1/4 power, you can technically get 4 shots off very rapidly without depleting the charge on the capacitor, each one at the selected output level. I make use of this feature all the time with my AD360.

            If you needed to wait the full recharge time between shots regardless of power level, there wouldn’t be much advantage to selecting a lower power level other than possibly DoF control. In sports shoots, the DoF is already pretty narrow as it is.

            • Mike 7 days ago

              But the flash does not fully discharge if shooting less than full power i.e. you only have to replace the charge that has been used which is why recharging at lower powers is almost instantaneous.

              Mike

      • Paul R 1 week ago

        Thanks very much for all the info. Dual bracket sounds great. Will there be a new single bracket? I hear that the AD200 is a tight fit for the old bracket.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 1 week ago

          Hi Paul,

          I would imagine Godox will refine the standard S-type bracket again over time (there have been a number of versions already believe it or not), though I don’t know if they will rush into it as the AD200 does fit, its just a bit tight.

          That’s easy to fix though anyway, all you have to do is take a pair of scissors and cut a couple of millimeters off the top edges off the top clamp’s rubber cover, so the clamp can raise a little higher. Then the AD200 slides right through no problems.

          That’s definitely worth doing, as its far more enjoyable to use the strobes when you’re not struggling to push them in and out of brackets all the time. A simple change that makes a big difference.

          • Paul R 1 week ago

            Thanks very much

  8. Harold 2 weeks ago

    I agree that a zoom head should be a priority for Godox, even a fixed coverage of 20-24mm would be preferable to the current 35mm coverage for quick setups with umbrellas.

  9. stoian penov 2 weeks ago

    Hi , can we compare ad200 with profoto B2

    • alastair lever 1 week ago

      Excellent, was hoping they would offer a bare bulb only option.
      Just ordered one.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 week ago

      Ok thanks, the listing didn’t last long though.

      Godox did say they would try and provide single head kits at a lower price later. Though no one else appears to have any available at this stage.

  10. Ken 1 week ago

    Do we have any data on how this compares to the AD360 in terms of measured output? Ed at Cheetahstand said (I think) that it output only 1/3 stop less light than the AD360. If that can be confirmed that, to me, would be a pretty darn solid performance for a less powerful light and much, Much improved form factor. Especially when you could put a dual 1/4-20 thread screw between 2 of these to mount them together and have a pretty serious portable light.

    • bob 1 week ago

      From my tests it all depends on the light modifier used and i have seen between 8/10 and 4/10 difference

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 week ago

      Hi Ken,

      Please see my original comment here.

      Also see this comment regarding the AD600 comparison.

      I’m getting around 1/3rd of a stop less that the AD360II with the AD200 sample I have, though there have been a number of conflicting results up to 0.8 stops less from various people with AD200 samples.

      So we will have to wait and hear what more people say with the production units. And I don’t want to jump into the early units available from China because Godox may revise things after the early batches (if anything likely going more conservative possibly lowering output). I’ll likely wait and buy Flashpoint versions at this stage.

      You could actually fit 4 of these on the smaller 16″ Phottix Multi Boom. With Fresnel heads and a double fold umbrella that would be an incredibly compact hand held set up which would blow away an AD600 (likely even with 1200Ws remote head). And also split up into a full 4 light kit.

      • Ken 1 week ago

        WoW, I hadn’t seen your Original Comment you linked to! OR the other one for that matter. Really great stuff. I think I might buy one of these instead of a replacement AD600. At least for now.

  11. Francesco 1 week ago

    With bare flash would it be better (i.e. softer light) to use the fresnel head or the bare bulb with the standard ad360 reflector? In the latter case I wonder what would be the use of the fresnel head other than rim light applications….

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 week ago

      Hi Francesco,

      I’m not sure if softer is completely the right term, though the light pattern and fall of from the bare bulb and reflector is a much nicer round pattern with even gradient fall off. So in places where the light pattern can actually bee seen on the background etc the bare bulb is generally a better option.

      Provided the light is pretty close to the subject the bare bulb does wrap around a little more, and shadows can have a slightly softer transition.

      I think the main purpose of the fresnel head at this stage is just for convenience. The bare bulb is a bit larger and more delicate, and you need to carry the larger reflectors etc. For people trying to travel as light and compact as practical the fresnel head will certainly help. Even wedding photographers may prefer the fresnel heads for convenience, if they are just going to be bounced off the ceiling in a reception etc anyway.

      Obviously a zoom head would be a different story, that could have quite an advantage of not having to carry a large long throw reflector for the bare bulb. (SMDV made a nice compact long throw reflector for their strobe, though its still quite big).

  12. Bob B. 1 week ago

    So..if I use an X1-C transmitter with my Canon 5D III with an AD200 …I get full functionality (i.e. TTL, HSS and all groups, etc) without the need to have a separate receiver for the strobe head, correct?

    • bob 1 week ago

      Exactly that Bob

      Mike

  13. Andy 7 days ago

    Edward Tang from Cheetahstand just said that they will be custom making a CTS coloured flash tube for the AD200 in Texas. Do you know if that is something that Godox will be doing themselves?

    • Ken 6 days ago

      CTS tube?

      • kennie 6 days ago

        CTS means Color Temperature Straw. Straw is more like yellow, so if CTO is not “Hipster” enough …CTS is the new thing to have. ;-)

        • Ken 6 days ago

          Oh jeez. I’d rather do specialized color grades and split toning or whatever in post. I want gels to match ambient mostly at least. Baking into the original exposure a trendy thing seems not a great idea to me. But, cool that they’ll be able to do things with these modular heads on these units!

          • Author
            Flash Havoc 5 days ago

            I think Straw was designed to match sunsets a bit better than regular CTO. (So still something of a color correction gel).

            • Ken 5 days ago

              Nice. Seems like it wouldn’t be faster than a gel though. Interesting to see where they’re going with this.

  14. CK 3 days ago

    Is this weather sealed?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 days ago

      Hi CK,

      No the AD200 are not weather sealed. They have air vents running along the sides near the base.

  15. mmmfotografie 3 days ago

    I noticed that the going price for the AD200 is 500 euros..Godox has went again wrong with the price like with the AD360II last year. Will they ever learn to be smarter!?

    • Andy 2 days ago

      where is that price??
      I picked it up from ebay for £255 (and worked out just over €300), and most of the sellers on ebay and amazon are similar

    • Memski 2 days ago

      It is the Dutch price on cameranu.nl
      Don’t blame it on Godox or the retailer. This al has to do with the import and sale tax and of course the profit margin of the retailer as well.

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