GODOX AD200 / EVOLV 200 – Cordless TTL Strobe Released



Godox have released the ground breaking AD200 Witstro cordless strobe, also available as the Flashpoint eVOLV 200 TTL .

UPDATE – AD200 PRO / EVOLV 200 PRO are also now available adding further refinements.

The AD200 / eVOLV are 200Ws cordless Lithium-ion powered TTL and HSS enabled strobes with Godox 2.4GHz X-system radio receiver built inside, compatible with, Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax camera systems.

Don’t be fooled by the name or Ws rating though, the AD200 are only around 0.3 to 0.5 stops less powerful than the well proven AD360II, and come in a remarkably more compact and convenient all in one package.




Being dedicated off camera flashes having no hotshoe, the AD200 provide similar compact size of a speedlite, though with considerable added power.

Another ground breaking feature of the AD200 is a modular interchangeable flash head system, which provides the option of either bare bulb or traditional speedlite fresnel head (fixed at 35mm, no zoom).

With various other head options becoming available, including an LED head, and Ring Light adapters in flash and LED versions.




And to take the AD200 to another level again, there is now also an EVOVL Twin Head Bracket / Godox AD-B2, which will combine two EVOLV 200 / Godox AD200 strobes into a single 400Ws light source!

The twin bracket providing a Bowens S-type mount, and dual unobstructed LED modelling lights.

The bracket can be used with dual flashes for extra power, or with a single flash to add a very useful LED modelling light.

The original AD200 flash bulbs can be used, or a single AD360 bulb centered in the bracket.

Flashpoint EVOLV Twin Head




  • Power – 200Ws
  • Bare Bulb Head – GN 60m, ISO 100 (AD360 reflector)
  • Speedlite Head – GN 52m ISO 100
  • Flash Modes – TTL / M / Multi
  • HSS to 1/8000th
  • FEC / FEB – 1/3rd Increments (±3 Stops)
  • FEL (Flash Exposure Lock)
  • Manual Flash – 1/128 – 1/1 Output (1/3rd Increments)
  • Godox 2.4GHz X Radio System
  • Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, Pentax, Radio Slave Modes (Auto Switching)
  • Range – 100m +
  • Groups – A / B / C / D / E
  • 32 Channels
  • S1/S2 Optic Slave Modes
  • Flash Duration Frensel Head – 1/220s – 1/13000s
  • Flash Duration Bare Bulb Head – 1/220s – 1/11300s
  • Color Temperature – 5600 +/- 200k
  • 14.4V 2900mAh Lithium-ion Battery
  • 520 Full Power Flashes
  • 0.01 – 2.1 Second Recycle Time
  • Custom Functions
  • Auto Memory Function
  • LED Modelling Light (Fresnel Head Only)
  • USB Port for Firmware Upgrades
  • 3.5mm Sync Port
  • Communication Port (For XTR-16 / FTR-16 Receivers)


Godox AD200


The AD200 can be mounted via a 1/4″ 20 threaded mounting hole on either side of the flash (allowing landscape or portrait orientation when using the speedlite head).













The EVOLV 200 / AD200 now have numerous versatile flash head options and accessories available –




The Godox AD200 / eVOLV 200 are available now from $299 –

EVOLV 200 – Adorama, Amazon, Ebay

GODOX AD200 – AmazonUK, B&H PhotoEbay


Godox – Website


  1. daemorhedron 5 years ago

    I like SO much about this, but the price at first seemed high but if you’re getting both heads and some accessories then the price comes as no surprise. I think they will start to offer other kits, such as body alone or body+bare bulb, etc.

    Just wish that the bare bulb also came with modelling light, that’s a shocking oversight.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi deamorhedron,

      Yes Godox are going to look into single head kits to hopefully get the base price down a little more again.

      I’m not really sure how far away those may be yet though.

    • Bob B. 5 years ago

      If you compare this to say a Canon Speedlite 600EX II-RT in price, power output and features…isn’t it a super bargain for a much better and more powerful light with a strong rechargeable battery, 2 heads and more versatility for a lot less money?
      I think these are incredible.

  2. C. Stephen Hurst 5 years ago

    Just received an update for my pre order. Price is now $329, reduced from the originally posted $349.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Thanks Stephen,

      Yes the full kit with 2 heads and barndoor accessories etc is $329.95!

  3. DMWard 5 years ago

    Do you know if they have included the MASK function in the Cfn area.
    If its there these will be ideal for small product photography.

    The form factor is great. And reasonable power for the size.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi DMWard,

      Yes the mask function is listed as a feature.

      • DMWard 5 years ago

        That’s great.
        Is there someplace where we can download the instruction manual to get a better idea of all the capabilities?

        I think I understand why they are offering it as a kit with both heads, the barn doors etc.

        I think it will be used, at least by me, mostly with the bare bulb.

      • Pablo 5 years ago

        hi, does anyone can explain what is exactly the feature “MASK function in the Cfn area.”?, can you provide a further information or a link where explain how it is used?. Thanks!

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 5 years ago

          Hi Pablo,

          Godox actually have a video on the Mask function on Youtube here.

          • Pablo 5 years ago


  4. Libby 5 years ago

    Can I use this flash with a Panasonic camera in manual mode?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Libby,

      Yes you should be able to. The XT-16 transmitter is single firing pin unit so it should work on most any camera.

      Though in most cases the XT-32 / Flashpoint R2T-32 for Canon should work ok as well, and has a nicer interface.

      • Sean McCormack 5 years ago

        On that note, how is the XT-32C with Fuji do you know? I’m gonna bump my 433mHz set for the new versions soon and am debating which trigger to go for.

      • Bob B. 5 years ago

        WOW! I really like the design, flexibility and price of these strobes!!
        I shoot Canon and Olympus bodies. Is there a way to get total function compatibility with my Olympus EM1-Mark II? Godox is not supporting that, but is there a workaround?

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 5 years ago

          Hi Bob,

          Godox are aiming for Olympus / Panasonic, and Fuji support this year.

          I don’t think there is any possible work around for TTL with Olympus at this stage, though maybe something like the Cactus V6 II transmitter and receiver could help with HSS.

          • Bob B. 5 years ago

            Thanks so much for that positive info.

        • Peter 5 years ago

          Hi Bob,

          I use the XT32C trigger with my Olympus E-M10 mkII, and it works pretty well. I can even get HSS with my TT600s using a little cheat – I put an FP capable flash in the hot shoe, fire it in FP mode and change it to the XT32C without turning off the Olympus body.

          • Bob B. 5 years ago

            Thanks for the input…although, it is encouraging that the admin. here says that Godox will be making the strobe compatible with 3 very popular mirrorless cameras this year. Finally. Truthfully I use my Oly system more than ny Canon. Size and weight, main factors.
            These new strobes could fit right into that mindset!

      • Mr Distroya 5 years ago

        Todos hace un mind ttl compatibility with pentax?

  5. Ryan 5 years ago

    I love everything about this flash, and I think I’m going to pull the trigger on a pre-order tonight. But I’m looking at picking up this and a Glow Parapop 28″ soft box. Which mount would I need to get to fit this thing?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Ryan,

      The ParaPop’s generally come with a speedlite bracket, and your studio light speeding insert of choice. I would get the Bowens mount insert and one of these Glow Bowens speedlite brackets.

      You could probably get away with just using the supplied speedlite bracket (by screwing a 5/8″ stud to the base of the bracket, and mounting the AD200 with its supplied swivel on top), though the Glow/Bowens bracket is a neater solution, which clamps the flash in place quickly and easily.

  6. Taro 5 years ago

    Guide Number of 60m (barebulb head) and 52m (fresnel head) seems a bit low for a 200ws device. Is this because of the light spread (zoom setting)? I’d really like to get more intuition about its relative power compared to speedlights.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Taro,

      Yes the fresnel head is set to 35mm. Which means you can still use them in umbrellas and softboxes etc, and its likely they would provide around a stop more light than the bare bulb in that situation.

      I don’t have the AD200 yet, though the guide number with bare bulb is the same as the AD180 which I discussed in the original review here.

      So provided they are similar to the AD180 they will be around the power of 2 speedlites (at equivalent 35mm zoom setting).

      • Taro 5 years ago

        Thanks, Elvis.

      • VisX 5 years ago

        If the Fresnel head is not zoom-able, wouldn’t it be better to just stick with the bare bulb and add readily available Godox accessories like umbrella/bowl reflectors/grid? Unless you already have a collection of Fresnel head accessories (gel/grid/bounce-card, etc), I don’t see a point of using this non-zoom-able Fresnel head.

  7. C. Stephen Hurst 5 years ago

    I wonder if they plan on releasing a zoom-able Fresnel head in the future. Surely it would be possible. And if so, they should have released that from the start. On another note, I emailed Godox and believe or not they actually got back to me. According to them Adorama should have them by the end of February. This is exactly what they said in response to my two questions.

    1. Adorama should have AD200 stock by the end of Feb., please kindly track from their website, they should have the first shipment from us as soon as possible.
    2. We will have one accessory to hold two AD200’s, the accessory is not ready yet, we will keep update it once it is ready , or you can keep track from Adorama website.
    Have a nice day.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Stephen,

      Thanks, I just hope Godox have had the forethought to put the communication channels in for a possible future zooming head.

      I’m not sure why they went with a fixed head, though it could be due to the extra cost, size, or conflict with the included LED lights. Even running more power through the speedlite size flash tube was likely a challenge.

      I haven’t quite followed what Godox were proposing to hold two AD200’s, though from what I can tell now it sounds like they have not proposed a concept themselves yet. I’m hoping they will consider this S-type bracket double adapter concept with modeling light built-in.

  8. Ganesh Naravian 5 years ago

    Only Godox company innovative products meets photographers expection with affordable price. Very interesting flash. For regular flash head zoom and built in reflector is most important. I wish they release manual version also (little cheaper)

  9. martin 5 years ago

    is any further info available on the likely output of the modelling light ?
    i realise its not gonna be powerful but just wondering how it will compare with, say, the ad600.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Martin,

      Flashpoint are going to send a sample unit over as soon as they can, so I’ll take a look once I have one here.

      • martin 5 years ago

        @FH – thanks, that’s great.

  10. George 5 years ago

    Wish they would offer a manual only version ( no TTL – similar to V850) with bare bulb only. This would bring the price down for us who do not need the extra features.

    @flashhavoc any info on that would be more than welcome!!!

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi George,

      The last I heard Godox were going to look into single head kits to help reduce the base price further to some degree. So hopefully they are still looking into that.

      I suggested a manual version as well, though it sounds like that is unlikely to happen as it won’t help to recoup the development costs of the TTL flash.

      Godox’s original price was $399, so they have made a considerable compromise already to come down to $329. As you can imagine that already would have taken quite a bit of persuasion.

      • Charles 5 years ago

        I’m sad there won’t be a non TTL version. I was planning to buy 4 of these right away if they released a manual version as they’re perfect to replace my setup but I’d just be wasting money on TTL which I never use 🙁 I’ll have to pass on this great product.

  11. burndawg 5 years ago

    Godox has listed the ad200 on their website already. Any news when it’s gonna come out ?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi burndawg,

      Somehow I don’t think Godox where actually ready to release the flash this early. As far as I understand Adorama are expecting stock later next month. I’m not sure when the Godox branded units are expected.

  12. Jay 5 years ago

    Is this an effective or actual 200ws?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Jay,

      Godox generally overstate the numbers a bit, so I think most people are expecting around 150Ws, or around the power of 2 speedlites (at equivalent zoom setting).

      I said that to Godox and they have since written equivalent to approximately 3 speedlites in their product description :-).

      We will see though.

  13. Craig 5 years ago

    Something I’d like to see on lights is an arca swiss type rail to serve as a mounting point instead of the permanently attached swivel brackets, removable proprietary swivel bracket, or 1/4″ mounting hole. A swivel bracket with arca compatible clamp should be included so it still has the same functionality. Plus 1/4″ mounting hole could still be inside the rail if they wanted that as an additional option. I don’t really get why manufacturers haven’t implemented this already.

    It would allow the swivel bracket to be adjusted fore and aft to balance the weight or allow more room for bulky modifiers.

    It would add versatility such as mounting the light directly on a ballhead and tripod.

    It would make lights more efficient to pack in a case, and if you didn’t need to use the swivel bracket that could be left at home to decrease weight.

    It would be much more secure than 1/4″ thread because those just needs rotational force to come loose. I might add an arca plate to my AD200 when it arrives, but that won’t be nearly as good as an integrated rail.

  14. Craig 5 years ago

    Oh yeah one more thing that should be a standard feature on monolights is a cold shoe foot for mounting a receiver. Ideally located close to 3.5mm hole.

  15. Andy 5 years ago

    I assume this also fits Cheetah Speed Pro S Bracket. If it is, then i think I will grab one from Adorama. This is perfect for me to travel and on-location wedding photo shoot. I have both AD360, AD600 (XPLOR) and they’re great, but not really compact when travel.

  16. Andy 5 years ago

    I forget to mention that it would be nice if Adorama offer standard flash without a kit, for example, you can choose to either get speedlite like head or tube head.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Andy,

      Godox agreed earlier that providing single head flashes would help bring the base price down to some degree. So hopefully they still go through with that.

      • Andy 5 years ago

        That’s cool. Let wait and see.

  17. Mike 5 years ago

    It might be too early to tell.. but will this flash fit into the Bowens S-Type bracket mounts? It’s a great option to use bowens mounts with Speedlights; I’m really interested in the eVolv/AD200 if it will fit this mount.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Mike,

      I don’t have an AD200 sample yet to confirm (will check with Godox), though it would be huge oversight if they didn’t. So I really can’t imagine they would let that happen.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Update – The guys from Flashpoint have confirmed the eVOLV will fit in their Glow S-type bracket (which is the current Godox S-type bracket).

      Its a very need fit though, so it could be possible some previous bracket version out there may be a bit tight. In general they should be OK though.

  18. Jerome Yeats 5 years ago

    Playing devil’s advocate here, if this flash just has the same power of two flashguns why not just pair two old pre digital flashguns together instead. All you would need is a couple of optical slaves. Sure you would lose TTL and High Speed Sync but I hardly ever use TTL and how often do you need HSS? No I am not a Luddite but I think we have become obsessed with the latest expensive toys at the expense of what we already have, and often do not use.
    What I would like is a Witstro 360 in monobloc form with the ability to be used indoors on a mains supply as well as battery for outdoors. Or something like the simple Godox DE-300 with a battery adapter (the latter will never happen). Simples

    • r deloviar 5 years ago

      For me at least, I use HSS often even if I only need just a stop more than 1/200. The mood and look of my final image can change dramatically with even one stop, as for ttl, better to have and not need than to need and not have. Secondly, I love the Bowens, S type bracket but it only accepts one light at a time, two speedlights would not work with the bracket. Additionally, I also I prefer the Omni-directional light output of a barebulb (fills modifiers more efficiently), speedlights throw light forward yes, I know you can zoom out and add modifiers etc. but you continue to reduce light output each time you put something in front of the light. Lastly, two speedlights is just cumbersome in comparison to a single unit. Less space in your bag, less batteries to replace or recharge and less things to assemble/disassemble saves time. So for me personally it’s not an “obsession with the latest expensive toy at the expense of what I already have, and often do not use” since, I don’t already have the above features and I do have a need for certain features (ttl, hss). Your wants/needs may differ but I wouldn’t discredit the wants/needs of others.

      • Jerome Yeats 5 years ago

        Oh dear, oh dear. Who is discrediting the needs of others? Why be so ernest? No one is going to take your toys away. I wouldn’t use TTL and have never needed HSS. Now seriously, have you checked out the cost of two old flashguns.? I must have about 13 and they are all useful. If you are worried about the space of two flashguns in your bag as opposed to a new toy then I truly do not know how to reply, except to laugh.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 5 years ago

          Come on guys, be nice 🙂

          People may not know, though I got into this making dual and multiple speedlite brackets for people, going on 10 years now.

          And for as long as I’ve been making dual speedlite brackets I’ve been harassing manufacturers with the AD200 like concept, to make dedicated off camera speedlites. Basically a dual speedlite in one unit, simply because its more convenient than rigging up multiple speedlites all the time.

          I was constantly told its too hard, or it won’t be cost effective and all the rest. Though the reality is once it gets started, and there’s demand, volume, and competition etc, the prices come down. That’s the process we will go through now. It could have started years ago though.

          I still remember when we couldn’t convince YongNuo there was a market for simple manual speedlites. It took a number of years before that started, and now they have basically made a career out of it.

          So theres nothing wrong with linking cheap manual speedlites together if that suits you, though its well overdue that flash units evolve as well. (I had nothing to do with the naming btw).

          • r deloviar 5 years ago

            I was never trying to be “not nice”. I was only stating reasons a product/idea like this appeals to me and my needs and uses. I believe I did a good job stating those reasons? Anyhow, I realize going on tangents in a discussion has no added value… I won’t be that guy. Good day FH and best wishes to you Jerome

            • Author
              Flash Havoc 5 years ago

              Thats cool, I was just trying to interject a little to avoid things possibly spiraling downwards.

        • Miroslav Nemec 4 years ago

          Hello there. How many batteries do you need and use during one day of shooting? And how many charges do you really need to feed all batteries?

      • r deloviar 5 years ago

        1) You discredited the needs of others “No I am not a Luddite but I think we have become obsessed with the latest expensive toys at the expense of what we already have”

        2) I’ve checked the prices of two flashguns, I even own a few… no matter how inexpensive they are I still can’t make two of them one single unit

        3) I value all the space and weight in my bag… I guess this is the part where you laugh at me

    • Craig 5 years ago

      Jerome Yeats,
      Strapping 2 speedlights together sounds like it would work for you. Not having HSS sounds like it would work for you. Not having TTL sounds like it would work for you.
      Good for you. You should do that. But guess what? Not everyone has the same needs as you. Why is it seemingly so hard for some people to understand that? When you suggest that because something would work for you others should do it too, that is when you appear to be discrediting the needs of others.

  19. James Rutsky 5 years ago

    Sorry – going back to an earlier comment by Jay… Unlike GN, Ws is not a measure of light output. It is a measure of power discharged by the capacitors and available to the flash tube. The actual light output depends on the efficiency of the flash tube, type of reflector used, etc. As to the question of effective or actual 200Ws, it probably will actually be 200Ws. You are probably referring to the GN, which almost every manufacturer overstates.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi James,

      In the early days of the AD360, Godox informed one of their dealers they were technically 307Ws.

      So that’s basically what I was referring to. They insist the AD600 are 600Ws though.

      We have certainly seen how different flash tubes, and they way they are mounted etc can make a big difference in the amount of light produced.

  20. alastair 5 years ago

    UK site has this coming soon with some additional views to the godox branded version


  21. Author
    Flash Havoc 5 years ago

    An early sample AD200 just arrived from Godox! 🙂

    Bare Bulb with the standard reflector – I’m getting the same reading as the AD360II.

    Bare Bulb in a 38″ Glow ParaPop (double diffused) – 0.3 stops less than the AD360II.

    Fresnel Head in the 38″ Glow ParaPop – 0.1 stops more than the AD360II.

    Fresnel head bare compared to Speedlites –

    1.3 stops more than the Canon 600EX-RT @ 35mm
    1.7 stops more than the Godox V860II-C @ 35mm

    Fresnel head in Glow ParaPop 38″ (double diffused) –

    1.1 stops more than the Canon 600EX-RT @ 35mm
    1.3 stops more than the Godox V860II-C @ 35mm

    The size is almost the same as a Canon 600EX-RT stretched out including the hotshoe.

    Weight with battery and Fresnel head is 875 grams. Vs 530g for the 600EX-RT, or 1550g for the AD360II full set up.

    Definitely a game changer for people looking to travel compact!

    • C. Stephen Hurst 5 years ago

      This is great news indeed! So did GODOx overrate the power of the 360 and under rate the power output of the AD200? Is the LED modeling light for the Fresnel head worth talking about. What about the accessories? Are they easily snapped onto the Fresnel head?

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 5 years ago

        Hi Stephen,

        The results are surprising, though 0.3 stops is basically the difference between 200 and 300Ws, so it does make reasonable sense.

        I think Godox have just done a great job of squeezing it all into a relatively compact shape. You can feel by the weight that its not a toy though.

        The body is vented (so not really weatherproof), and the Fresnel head is well vented as well. There are actually large gaps running along the top and bottom of the Fresnel lens to allow air flow. The LED’s run along the same area, so the gap means the LED’s are not obscured by the Fresnel lens either.

        I only have one flash here at the moment, though I can see there are small lugs on the top surface, and matching indents on the base, so that multiple flashes will locate and stack nicely against each other. And those air gaps mentioned above will then still allow air flow into the Fresnel head even with flashes stacked together.

        The LEDs are not very bright, possibly comparable to the XPLOR 600 LED on the lowest power level. So not much use in a modifier. Though having said that they are certainly handy. Now that they’re there I wouldn’t want to leave them out. That’s obviously the way of the future for speedlite heads.

        Regarding the accessories, the combined barndoor / grid / magnetic gel holder is all made of metal, so it has a little bit of weight to it. Godox generally love their plastic, so its surprising they made this of metal. I think if you didn’t need the barndoors though they could be unscrewed, and the gel / grid holder alone should be fairly light weight.

        Its well made though, and snaps on securely and easily. The Gels are magnetic so clip on easily. (The Gels I have are not stuck to their frame properly, though they are pre-production samples). Overall it works well, and should be a nice inclusion. I’m not sure anyone else even makes / offers a dedicated grid and gel set for their speedlites?

        The swivel again is something I would have considered a bonus item, though if you’re after a compact swivel this is probably the best option you would find, so its nice that its included (or at least available). To keep it compact the base only provides a 1/4″ or 3/8″ threaded hole, so you want a light stand with a male thread on top. The swivel has teeth so it locks into place firmly with just a small thumbscrew, though its not harsh to adjust like the XPLOR or Godox S-type brackets.

        Speaking of the S-type brackets, by far the biggest hassle I was having was just pushing the flash in and out of the bracket clamp, because its just a bit too tight. Though cutting a few millimeters off the top edge of the top clamp rubber cover with some scissors was all that was needed to allow the top clamp to move up far enough to slide the flash in and out easily. Small change though much quicker and easier to set up again.

        Godox are going to make a dual flash tube S-type mount something like I suggested. Though I don’t know if they are going to include the modelling light. And to me that would make all the difference with this flash. Even for single flash use to have something like a 20W LED modelling light (with bare bulb use) would make all the difference for this flash. It could cover so many uses then. Its still a game changer in any case, but the modelling light option would complete it. (And dual mount would be very handy as well).

        The fact that you can strap a few of these together easily, and with the Fresnel heads have a very compact unit putting out a lot of light is very impressive as well.

    • Andy 5 years ago

      Thanks for the test. I have AD360 and AD600. They’re very nice flash but it’s kind of cumbersome when I shoot on location. Looks like AD200 is a winner for me and I may get a set from Adorama.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 5 years ago

        Hi Andy,

        Yes far easier to pack, and to set up and move around etc. Cordless is a winner in flash this size.

    • Jesse Patterson 5 years ago

      Wow! So…..does the AD200 make my AD360 obsolete now???

      “Bare Bulb with the standard reflector – I’m getting the same reading as the AD360II.
      Bare Bulb in a 38″ Glow ParaPop (double diffused) – 0.3 stops less than the AD360II.”

      Based on these results, the AD360II isn’t so compelling now. .3 stops is not enough for all of the extra accessories and cords necessary for smooth operation however, I guess we’ll need to wait for recycle times, battery life tests, and continuous bursts for a final decision.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 5 years ago

        Hi Jesse,

        Would you believe the AD200 recycles a bit faster than the AD360II with 2 into 1 cord.

        And provides considerably more pops per battery charge 🙂

        With the larger new 5800mAh battery they may be closer on pops though. (The larger battery doesn’t improve the recycle time).

        I don’t think the AD200 makes the AD360II obsolete, though I think a cordless AD360 would outsell the current units 10 to 1. If you add another 1/3rd in size they likely wouldn’t be that dissimilar to the SMDV BRiHT-360.

        I think the AD200 will have a lot of people thinking twice about regular speedlites and AD360II.

        • Jesse Patterson 5 years ago

          Wow. Based on your last comment, I may need to trade in my AD360 for an AD200. I figure, if I need a bare-bulb style flash, I have two AD600s for that. If in lower light situations, I use my V860II flashes. In-between, if the AD200 production models are the same or better, I don’t see myself using the AD360 at all. I always get nervous about loosing a cord and managing too many pieces in a puzzle. One more thing, how’s the overheat protection? That’s my main quibble with the V860II.

  22. Andy 5 years ago

    One more thing: Does HSS on AD200 power limit to 1/8 like AD360? It would be nice if it has the same feature of HSS on AD600.

  23. r deloviar 5 years ago

    You had me at “Bare Bulb in a 38″ Glow ParaPop (double diffused) – 0.3 stops less than the AD360II”. I love my AD360s but set up and tear down is not so ideal. I mean… 0.3 stops less is the difference of moving the light source just inches closer to subject.

  24. Darryl 5 years ago

    I agree that GODOX needs to work on their modeling lights. I am still leaning towards Paul C Buff systems for studio work and leaving the godox for field related work because of the lack of power on the AD600 modeling LED. The Rapid 600 150w incandecent light may be enough power but I am really liking the LED modeling lights of the DIGI BEE’s along with daylight balance and proportional illumination which is lacking on the rapids.

  25. C. Stephen Hurst 5 years ago

    Thank you so much FH for the reply. Great insights.

    Seems to be a well designed product and man am I happy I sold my Profoto B2 setup before this was mentioned. Godox/Flashpoint has been a solid and reliable performer for me thus far. (Knock on Wood)

    Did you get your sample AD200 direct from GODOX or Adorama. Is it a full production model? When Godox emailed me about Adorama stock they said late Feb. Hopefully Adorama stock will begin shipping sooner than expected.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Stephen,

      Sorry, I got the sample unit from Godox directly. Its a pre-production sample, though I can’t see that much would change in the production units.

      I’m not sure when Adorama will have stock… EDIT – Now expected the 4th March 2017.

  26. david 5 years ago

    Did you work out what the auto memory function is yet ?

    • AirImage 5 years ago

      Auto Memory is probably the fact that it will store all settings when the unit is powered down.

  27. John 5 years ago

    Do you think they are planning to make a 400 watts of this in the future?

  28. Jeff O 5 years ago

    Will a MagMod fit onto the fresnel head do you know. I’m guessing it will sizewise, but hadn’t considered the vents?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Jeff,

      Yes I managed to stretch the MagMod over 🙂

      It doesn’t block the main front vents, though I was also able to fold the rubber under pretty easily so it wasn’t blocking the rear vents either.

      The cool thing is you can just pop the Fresnel head off the flash rather than trying remove the MagMod (if trying to reduce space for packing etc).

      If anything I think the MagMod feels more in proportion etc on the AD200 than regular speedlites.

      Also out of interest the AD200 grid fits pretty nicely into a MagMod gel holder.

  29. burndawg 5 years ago

    is there a usb plugin for XTR16 ?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi burndawg,

      Yes there is a USB port for the clip on receivers, and a mini USB port for firmware updates.

  30. burndawg 5 years ago

    amazing !!! So is in full power and barebulb the same power output as the AD360 ??

  31. Alpheus Bailey 5 years ago

    While you have this flash in your position can you test the issue the AD360 has where if you place the trigger too close to the flash it will not trigger the flash? Would appreciate the feedback.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Alpheus,

      The sample AD200 I have actually appears to be communicating and firing just fine right up against the transmitter.

      Though Godox have implemented a close range option now in the X1 transmitters in any case, which allows for short range use within 30cm.

      • Zubeyr 4 years ago

        My AD200 is firing right up against X1-N T but my TT600 did not fire when using it too close to the transmitter. I have this problem when doing macro photography. It seems to me that the miss fire is due to specific flash unit model not the transmitter.

  32. Hugo G 5 years ago

    I was wondering if it would be “real” 200 Ws (compared to the Ad360) and if the MagMod would fit … you just answer to my thoughts … waiting for the end of February to get one … I got two ad360II and 1 ad600 when adorama sold them on sale for blackfriday … guess I just had to wait … spending more money on godox 🙂

  33. Chris 5 years ago

    I was about to get the Godox 360ii for indoor + outdoor portrait photography.
    Would you guys recommend to wait another month and get the AD200 instead of the 360ii?

    So I basically get the same power output with the AD200 + smaller package + no cable/external battery. Any other advantages / disadvantages?

    Thank you!

    • Francesco 5 years ago

      Other tests around are showing that the Ad200 is behind the Ad360ii, not much but still a 0.5 to 1 stop. All in one body is indeed a wonderful feature when doing works on location / outdoor.
      It would be very useful to have some tests in HSS against speedlights. It is known that the power difference speedlight / strobe may change when going in HSS territory.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 5 years ago

        Hi Francesco,

        As detailed further below, I’m getting similar comparison results / difference in and out of HSS mode.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Chris,

      The AD200 appears to be around 0.3 stops below the AD360II.

      I get the same meter reading using the standard reflector, though that’s because the AD200 flash tube is smaller and produces a smaller flash pattern (lights up a slightly smaller area) than the AD360II in the same reflector.

      Even with the reduction in power I think most people will be choosing the AD200 for the convenience. Having said that I wish Godox would do a cordless AD360 sooner than later as well.

      One advantage of the AD360II is that you can still use other TTL triggers attached to the flashes foot. That’s very helpful for Canon RT owners especially (by using a Phottix Laso RT receiver).

      Another advantage is if you use regular speedlites at times and want to use the PB960 battery pack for those as well.

  34. Greg 5 years ago

    Edward at CheetahStand has measured about a 2/3 stop difference between the CL360 and the 200X, with both using the standard reflector behind the bare bulb. Considering the CL360 (AD360) is known to have about 300ws vs. the 200X 200ws, this seems reasonable.

    Can’t say why people are getting different readings, unless distance is a factor, or some of the tests were performed with high ambient light levels that weren’t accounted for.

    • bob 5 years ago

      Some people are testing test/pre-production models, is anybody actually testing a production model?


      • Author
        Flash Havoc 5 years ago

        Hi bob,

        I think they are pretty close to production models, I doubt the flash itself will change much.

        Though as we have seen with the previous flash models just changing the flash bulb can result in a loss or gain or around 0.3 stops, so if anything that’s where I’m not sure if we may possibly see a difference in the production units.

    • Harvey 5 years ago

      Greg, differences in the dimensions of the room, including the ceiling, in which the units are tested, can account for the variation in test results.

  35. Francesco 5 years ago

    I ve heard that first production models will ship end of February to US. Still interested in HSS tests vs high end speedlights on test models

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Francesco,

      Its a little hard to compare accurately. Just looking at the Fresnel head compared to a Canon 600EX-RT set to 35mm zoom, the AD200 is basically 1.7 stops ahead.

      To be fair the AD200 is not lighting up as much area as the 600EX-RT at 35mm though, so maybe 1.3 stops is more reasonable.

      In or out of HSS it basically goes back to my original comparisons here. The AD200 may have a little more advantage in HSS, though they have a bit more gradient as well. So overall similar to the original comparisons outside HSS mode.

  36. MP Singh 5 years ago

    This looks like a great flash. One question though – what is the power of the modeling light with Fresnal Head. I am thinking of if i can even replace my other LED continuous light for details shots at weddings.
    thanks in advance.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi MP Singh,

      The LED’s are not very bright. They are certainly handy to have, though I would think of very limited use at all as a modelling light etc inside a softbox etc.

      I think Godox are intending on making a full LED light head at some stage. Though I’m not sure how much sense that makes as you’re carrying around a bunch of heavy capacitors then for no reason. They may as well make a much smaller complete LED unit and just use the AD200 battery in that.

      I think their plans are for a dual mount, and ring light (in flash and LED versions) first. Though I’m not sure even how far off those may be at this stage.

  37. burndawg 5 years ago

    Here’s the first video. Edward from Cheetah says the AD200 is only 1 F-Stop difference to the hella big ad600. Is this true ?????


    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi burndawg –

      Well actually if I align the flash tubes to the same depth in the softbox (a double diffused 38″ ParaPop) I’m getting 1.4 stops difference.

      Moving the AD200 just an inch further into the softbox though I am getting 1.0 stop difference.

      And if anything the light pattern is more even with the AD200 pushed in the inch further.

      Measurements were at 5 feet (just over 1.5M) ISO100 –

      – AD600 F16 +0.1
      – AD200 F11 +0.1 (mounted an inch forward)
      – AD200 F8 +0.7 (flash tubes aligned)

  38. burndawg 5 years ago

    thanks alot man ! do you still have this sample model of the ad200 ? I would be really really interested in flashduration times of 1/2 – 1/4 and 1/8 ,.. I think the flash showes it right ?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Sorry, yes I still have the sample ( be hard to pry it out of my hands 🙂 )

      Yes the flash durations in t0.1 are shown on the flash. I have a flash duration meter now as well, and that’s also showing result just a little better than Godox state below (with Bare Bulb Head).

      1/1 – 1/220
      1/2 – 1/909
      1/4 – 1/1923
      1/8 – 1/3225
      1/16 – 1/4878
      1/32 – 1/6666
      1/64 – 1/9009
      1/128 – 1/11363

  39. bob 5 years ago

    AD200 manual now available on the Godox downloads page http://www.godox.com/EN/InstructionManual/Godox_AD200_20170209.pdf

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Great, thanks Bob.

  40. John 5 years ago

    Is it known if AD200 will have a Flash Exposure Lock, making it possible to swith from TTL to manual and keep the latest settings?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi John,

      I call that Hybrid TTL, and its more a function / feature of the transmitter than the flash itself.

      Its not currently a feature in the Godox system, though Godox and Flaspoint are working on new X2 transmitters for the system at the moment. I’ve mentioned it, though all the functions of the transmitter haven’t really been discussed at this stage.

      Nissin have just added this feature with their new Air 10s Commander, so hopefully that will help motivate Godox to include it at some stage as well. Its definitely one of the biggest drawcard features, though I don’t know how difficult it is to implement, and from my own involvement in this personally I just want them to get the basics of a well functioning transmitter right first (that’s really a big drawcard in itself).

  41. Ed 5 years ago

    Do you know if the the AD200 fits in the Phottix Cerberus mount?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Ed,

      Sorry I don’t have a Cerberus mount to check.

      If its any help you need space for about 2.5 to 3mm more height than a regular speedlight.

      (The tallest part of a Canon 600EX-RT is 51mm, where the tallest part of the AD200 is 53.5mm).

      Looking at the images of the Cerberus mount it looks like it could easily accommodate a few extra mm’s height.

      • Ed 5 years ago

        Thanks Elvis

  42. jimmy jones 5 years ago

    is this flash more powerful as AD 180 ?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi jimmy,

      Unfortunately I don’t have any AD180 here anymore to compare directly, though going by the AD360 comparison results I would think they would have to be at least 0.3 stops more output.

  43. Dan Brand 5 years ago

    I’m new to Godox so I apologize if this is a dumb question… Is the Adorama Flashpoint evolv 200 version the same product/manufacturer as Godox(or equivalent to) or would purchasing that be comparable to getting a Yongnuo version of a Canon speed light?

    • Francesco 5 years ago

      Same exact product, rebranded by different resellers.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi Dan,

      Yes they are the same products with different branding. Flashpoint do do what they can to help refine the products though, they are in China at the moment meeting with Godox again.

      Currently the main difference is just what is supplied with flashes like the XPLOR 600, that comes with carry case and reflector etc. I’m not sure exactly what the eVOLV 200 will be supplied with or if it will differ at all from the standard Godox kit.

      • Francesco 5 years ago

        In the Cheetah video the big guy says they will include the barndoor and magnetic gels otherwise excluded from the standard Godox kit

  44. Niels Gram 5 years ago

    Seems like a winner 🙂 I would like to see a speedlite-style head with zoom set to 100mm or 135mm. I have no problem with a fixed-zoom option, but I would avoid having to add an external fresnell lens like a Betterbeamer.

  45. burndawg 5 years ago

    thanks alot man !

    but yeah I expected at least a lil over 1/1000 at 1/4 power. damn sucks abit. 1/8 goes straight into 1/3225 and 1/4 almosz the same as 1/2. A lil weird tho !

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Opps, sorry that was 1/1923 not 1/923 at 1/4 power!

      And also I just realized the durations are slightly different between the Bare Bulb and Fresnel head –

      Bare Bulb –

      1/1 – 1/220
      1/2 – 1/909
      1/4 – 1/1923
      1/8 – 1/3225
      1/16 – 1/4878
      1/32 – 1/6666
      1/64 – 1/9009
      1/128 – 1/11363

      Fresnel –

      1/1 – 1/220
      1/2 – 1/869
      1/4 – 1/1818
      1/8 – 1/3225
      1/16 – 1/5128
      1/32 – 1/7518
      1/64 – 1/10204
      1/128 – 1/13333

  46. burndawg 5 years ago

    ohhh wow !! now we talking !!!! Gonna get 3 of them forsure !!!!!!! You know when they sell the first production batch ? Do think they gonna have any bugs with batteries and ,… ?

    cheers man

  47. burndawg 5 years ago

    ah yeah and one more thing, the power in 1/4 should be about the same as a speetlight nikon sb910 godox tt600 in full power right ?

  48. Jenny Lee 5 years ago

    Godox AD200 now available on ebay from Chinese sellers. Price at 300$

  49. Joel Richards 5 years ago

    A lot of great info in the comments. Any chance you could do a first look review and summarize your early tests and opinions?

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