GODOX & FLASHPOINT – 2.4GHz Flash System Overview

 

With the release of their 2.4GHz enabled strobes, Godox and Flashpoint have been putting together one of the most comprehensive and now popular radio flash systems currently available.

What’s attractive about the Godox ecosystem is not only the large range of well priced and innovative lights on offer, but also the complete compatibility throughout the system, from the cheapest remote manual speedlites, to the larger cordless TTL, and AC powered studio strobes.

With impressive releases like the AD600 PRO / XPLOR 600 PRO, AD400 PRO / XPLOR 400 PRO and AD200 PRO / EVOLV 200 PRO, Godox are now leading the way in many respects, for others to follow.

Another major feature is the cross platform support for multiple camera systems. All of the speedlites and strobes in the Godox 2.4GHz system now provide auto sensing radio receiver modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax.

This means photographers using different camera brands can effectively share the same set of remote strobes at the same time. And this includes full TTL and HSS functionality where available.

 

 

 

So Godox have been developing a very versatile, practical, and affordable, radio flash system, now attracting the largest user base worldwide.

Its not all perfect though, with a system of this scale already having so many components, there are a number of (generally minor) quirks and details needing refinement over time, through firmware updates etc.

And although having the innovative advantage of built-in Lithium-ion batteries, (and now convenient V1 Round Head Speedlite and magnetic modifiers) the Godox master speedlites have been a weak point in the system for wedding photographers, who would often like to see heat protection and AF assist light performance matching the original Canon and Nikon speedlites.

Off camera TTL performance with strobes like game changing AD600 PRO / XPLOR PRO, and original AD600 / XPLOR have mostly been solid and consistent since their first release.

The speedlites and bare bulb flashes have proven themselves to be solid workhorses over a number of years now. The Godox radio system has also shown to be generally reliable with reasonable range.

NOTE – The Godox 2.4GHz radio system is not directly compatible with Canon or Nikon’s radio systems.

 

GODOX 2.4GHz FLASH SYSTEM OVERVIEW

 

Godox now provide a broad range of strobes with 2.4GHz radio built inside. This provides numerous Transmitter, Master, and Receiver flash options.

All of the 2.4GHz hotshoe flashes function as both radio Master and Receiver units in the Godox system –

 

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

And with the addition of clip on XTR-16/s radio receivers, a number of the previously popular legacy remote manual strobes can be combined as receiver flash units in the 2.4GHz flash system (using the transmitter and master flash units shown above).

These include the –

 

 

 

NOTE – When looking at AC powered studio lights, at this stage its usually best to go with Mark II Godox lights which have the 2.4GHz radio receiver built inside, because the older AC lights often use different power scales which are no longer supported by current transmitters like the Xpro.

 

And your original Canon, Nikon, and Sony etc, TTL Speedlites, and non-Godox studio lights, can also be combined in the system by attaching those to Godox X1R receiver, or Flashpoint R2 SPT units (as discussed further below).

 

 

ADORAMA FLASHPOINT R2 SYSTEM

 

In the USA Adorama also sell the Godox System under their Flashpoint branding, providing great support and helping to develop and refine the system.

The Flashpoint equipment is fully compatible with the original Godox branded gear, and Flashpoint provide up to 3 year full USA warranty.

And Flashpoint are also developing exclusive products for the Godox / Flashpoint system, including the Flashgship R2 PRO II transmitter, R2 SPT Transceivers, and MB-6 multi battery charger for the EVOLV 200.

Adorama also sell Godox branded products not listed under the Flashpoint branding.

 

 

Flashpoint have their own naming structure as tabled below –

 

FLASHPOINT R2 SYSTEM

 

Flashpoint R2 PRO II Transmitter – CanonNikonSonyM4/3Fuji – Pentax

Flashpoint R2 SPT Single Pin Transceiver – PairSingle

Godox Xpro = Flashpoint R2 Pro Transmitter – Canon – Nikon – SonyM4/3Fuji – Pentax

Godox X1T = Flashpoint R2 TTL Transmitter – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji
Godox X1R = Flashpoint R2 TTL Receiver – Canon – Nikon – Sony

Godox XT32 = Flashpoint R2T 32 Transmitter – Canon – Nikon

Godox A1 = Flashpoint M1 PRO

 

Godox V1 = Flashpoint Zoom Li-ion X R2 TTLCanonNikonSonyM4/3FujiPentax

Godox TT685 = Flashpoint Zoom R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji
Godox V860II = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji

Godox TT350 = Flashpoint Zoom Mini R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – FujiPentax
Godox V350 = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on Mini R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji

Godox TT600 = Flashpoint Zoom R2 Manual
Godox V850II = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 Manual

Godox AD200 PRO – Flashpoint EVOLV 200 PRO R2 TTL
Godox AD200  = Flashpoint EVOLV 200 R2 TTL
Godox AD-B2 = Flashpoint EVOLV Twin Head

Godox AD360II = Flashpoint Streaklight 360 R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon

Godox AD600BM = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 HSS
Godox AD600B = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 TTL HSS
Godox AD-H600B = Flashpoint Extension Head 600Ws
Godox AD-H1200B = Flashpoint Extension Head 1200Ws

Godox AD400 PRO = Flashpoint XPLOR 400 PRO TTL

Godox AD600 PRO = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO TTL
Godox AD-H600 PRO = Flashpoint XP600 PRO Extension Head

 

Godox SK300II = Flashpoint Studio 300
Godox SK400II = Flashpoint Studio 400

Godox QT400IIM = Flashpoint Rapid 400 HSS
Godox QT600IIM = Flashpoint Rapid 600 HSS
Godox QT1200IIM = Flashpoint Rapid 1200 HSS

 

Godox XTR-16 = Flashpoint R2 Bridge SL
Godox XTR-16s = Flashpoint R2 Bridge ZL

Godox AD360 = Flashpoint Streaklight 360
Godox AR400 = Flashpoint Ring Li-on

Godox PB960 = Flashpoint Blast Power Pack PB-960
Godox LP800x = Flashpoint Power Station PS-800

Godox S-Type Bracket – Glow S-Type Bracket

 

Adorama also now sell – Godox branded products

Flashpoint products are also available – on Amazon

 

 

TRANSMITTERS

 

The current flagship radio transmitter providing the most control for the Godox X / Flashpoint R2 flash system is actually the Flashpoint exclusive R2 PRO II, which are currently only available from Adorama.

The Flashpoint R2 PRO II were developed by Adorama, after considerable user feedback, and manufactured by Godox.

The alternative transmitter option currently available from Godox is the Xpro, (which are also available as the original Flashpoint R2 PRO).

The R2 PRO II offer considerable refinements though, with an interface and functionality highly focused around speed and convenience. As well as additional features like built-in Bluetooth for Smart Phone APP Control.

See the full details of the R2 PRO II in the overview post here.

 

 

Like the R2 PRO II, the Godox Xpro are available in Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax versions.

Both transmitters display 5 groups at a time, or zoom to display the current group larger and in more detail.

The provided TCM function is a significant feature, allowing quick initial TTL exposures to be converted to manual power settings for further refinement and consistency.

 

 

The Transmitter units available for the Godox 2.4GHz radio flash system –

  • R2 PRO II – TTL / HSS / Remote Manual
  • XPro – TTL / HSS / Remote Manual
  • X1T – TTL / HSS / Remote Manual
  • XT32 – HSS / Remote Manual
  • XT16 – Remote Manual

The XPro, XT32, and XT16, transmitters also provide control for 16 Groups in Manual mode, where the X1T currently provide up to 5 Groups at most.

The XT32 and XT16 providing alternate power scales compatible with older mark one Godox studio lights.

 

MASTER FLASHES

 

Currently all of the Godox hotshoe flashes with 2.4GHz X radio system built-in, also provide both radio master and receiver modes.

So they can all act as a master / transmitter unit on-camera to the rest of the 2.4GHz flash system.

 

There are some differences between the Canon, Nikon, and Sony master units functionality, due to the way their various native TTL systems operate.

For example the Nikon master interface only provides for 3 TTL or remote manual groups, so Godox have allowed 2 more groups to at least be used in remote manual.

The Canon master interface provides a GR Group style interface with 5 TTL or remote manual groups, though pre 2012 cameras can still only access 3 groups.

The Sony master interface currently only provides the 3 TTL or remote manual receiver groups. (Which should really be expanded with 2 more remote manual groups).

 

RECEIVERS

 

The X1R receivers were originally released alongside the X1T transmitter, as TTL and HSS enabled transmitter and receiver set.

Though the X1R are also currently the only receivers available in the Godox 2.4GHz system for firing non-Godox studio lights, or manual speedlites etc.

UPDATE – Flashpoint R2 SPT Transceivers are also now available as a cost effective way of firing non-Godox manual lights.

Studio lights can be fired with X1R (or R2 SPT) receivers when attached via a sync cord. No remote control is available then, except that receiver groups can be turned On and Off remotely from the transmitter.

Currently there are only Canon, Nikon, and Sony X1R receiver versions available. Though any of the Godox 2.4GHz transmitters or master flashes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax, will fire any X1R receiver version.

So at this stage M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax users can select any of the Canon Nikon or Sony X1R receivers to fire their additional non-Godox studio lights (or R2 SPT).

 

 

 

For Speedlight use the X1R receivers will provide full TTL and HSS when using corresponding and compatible, Canon, Nikon, and Sony, speedlites mounted on the receivers hotshoe.

In this case cross platform support is generally limited at this stage, usually to firing the flash, and possibly remote manual power control.

Also the X1R receivers have tended to be a lower priority in the system, and even when using corresponding brand genuine speedlites there have been numerous quirks which come and go with firmware changes in the system.

So it can be preferable to actually consider inexpensive Godox speedlites rather than purchasing X1R receivers for your current speedlites (particularly if they are third party). As Godox speedlites like the TT685 do not cost that much more than the X1R receivers, and work seamlessly in the system, even across brands.

 

FTR-16/s and XTR-16/s are manual receivers which only work with Godox flashes providing the dedicated communication ports to attach them (as discussed in more detail further below).

 

CROSS PLATFORM COMPATIBILITY

 

A major feature of the Godox and Flashpoint system is now the cross platform support for multiple camera systems.

All of the speedlites and strobes in the Godox 2.4GHz system now provide auto sensing / switching radio receiver modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax.

This means photographers using different camera brands can effectively share the same set of remote strobes at the same time. And this includes full TTL and HSS functionality where available.

 

 

 

All of the Godox TTL speedlites / hotshoe flashes now provide the same auto sensing TTL radio slave modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax.

 

 

 

SYSTEM SCALABILITY

 

Particularity for people getting started in off camera lighting, the scalability of Godox system offers a very practical option to start out with.

This is because the Godox remote manual flashes are compatible (in remote manual, and HSS use) with Godox’s more advanced TTL gear, as well as their broad range of larger TTL and manual strobes.

This means you can start with some inexpensive remote manual speedlites like the Godox TT600, (which are basically Godox’s alternative to the popular YongNuo YN560 IV), and easily expand your kit with numerous other compatible Godox flash options later.

With YongNuo the remote manual and TTL systems have limited intercompatibility. And a lot of people get caught out with that after a short time when trying to expand their kit to experiment with HSS or TTL.

With a HSS enabled Godox transmitter like the Xpro, the TT600 speedlites (and most other Godox remote manual strobes) already include a HSS mode.

Note – Remote flash head zoom is not currently provided with the manual TT600 or V850II speedlites (where YongNuo’s YN560 systems does allow this).

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

PREVIOUS 433MHz RADIO SYSTEM

 

A quick history for people unfamiliar with the original Godox system. Not so many years ago Godox released their first 433MHz frequency, FT-16 remote manual radio system. To be used with their various original remote manual strobes (mentioned further above).

Godox knew this system would need to evolve quite a lot in a relatively short time. And fortunately for many early customers Godox designed the radio receivers as small external clip on units, which could then be easily upgraded to a new radio system later on.

So Godox now provide 2.4GHz XT16 versions of the original 433MHz FT-16 transmitter and receivers.

And these XTR16 and XTR16s receivers link the legacy remote manual flashes to the new Godox 2.4GHz X radio flash system as detailed above.

(The original 433MHz FT-16 transmitter and receivers are still available, though you can imagine they will probably be phased out eventually as demand reduces).

 

 

 

As well as remote manual power control, a number of the legacy Godox strobes like the original AD360 also provide a HSS mode.

The FT-16 transmitter being a universal single firing pin unit though, cannot communicate with the camera to provide the early fire signal needed for HSS to function.

So with the 433MHz radio system a second Cells II transmitter was also needed to be mounted on the camera, while the FT-16 transmitter could be held in hand just for remote power control with the strobes.

With the current 2.4GHz system, the Xpro, X1T, and XT32 transmitters, basically combine the XT-16 and Cells II into one more convenient transmitter unit. So the Cells II, FT-16, and XT-16 transmitters have become mostly redundant now.

Though the FT-16 transmitter can still be useful with some cameras that otherwise have issues with non single firing pin transmitters.

 

 

This post is PART 1 of the Godox and Flashpoint 2.4GHz radio flash system overview.

Continue to PART 2 – Godox and Flashpoint Radio Flash Models.

 

PART 1 –  GODOX & FLASHPOINT 2.4GHz SYSTEM OVERVIEW
PART 2 – GODOX & FLASHPOINT FLASH MODELS
PART 3 – GODOX & FLASHPOINT RADIO TRIGGER MODELS

 

Godox – Website

Godox – Firmware Updates

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456 Comments
  1. Michael BOUTON 1 year ago

    Hi

    I’m looking forward Flash for my Sony camera (A7R3 / A6500). Godox seems best adapted to my nedd, by i read AF beam assist doesn’t work with Xpro. Is it still true? is it the case with all product as single flash too? Do you know if something is plan to solve this issue?

    For me this function is important to cover wedding event parties (low lights)

    TIA

  2. Zoomstudio 1 year ago

    Hi all

    Thanks for the article.

    I have bought two AD600 and replaced my old Canon 580ex flash with the V860C and also using the XPro trigger.
    The system works fine. Happy with it.

  3. Ryan 1 year ago

    Will the Godox xt32 or xpro control a neewer nw670 flash?

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 1 year ago

      Hi Ryan,

      Sorry no, that does’t appear to be a Godox made flash, and it doesn’t have any radio capability built-in either, only an optic wireless receiver mode.

  4. Lachlan 1 year ago

    Hi there I’m looking for some guidance on what to buy. I’m a total novice who has started up an a
    E-commerce fashion store. We are doing photo shoots in our garage and need flash lighting (currently using inadequate continuous lighting). What is a cost effective solution for me, and how much light do I need? I am running a canon and shooting on a white paper backdrop with head to toe shots. We are in a garage with low light, the space is 3m high with a dark ceiling 4m wide and quite long (it’s a garage space). I found these on ebay, does this look right?

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F192597305272

    • John Wilson 1 year ago

      You need to ask this question on thr DPReview Studio & Lighting Techniques forum https://www.dpreview.com/forums/1025 Try asking for general advice on setting up you studio don’t ask “should I buy this?” you’ll get a better response that way.

      However to answer your question. Do not buy those lights. They are old versions of the low end of Godox’s range. I don’t believe they have a fan and will overheat with moderate use. See page 9 of the manual http://www.godox.com/EN/InstructionManual/Godox_DP_20171008.pdf

      • Lachlan 1 year ago

        Thanks John, I will look at the ii range, much appreciated

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 1 year ago

      Hi Lachlan,

      If you’re wanting to do this on a budget, and AC power is ok, then by far the best bang for buck are the Godox SK400II / Flashpoint Studio 400 (in the USA).

      As John mentioned, the lights you linked to are the old version, its much better if possible at this point to go with any of the MK II lights that have the 2.4GHz radio system built-in.

      In the US there are lots of good prices on other options like the Godox QS and QT series II strobes, but in Australia I know the prices are not so great, so the SKII will do the job fine.

      400Ws is fine for what you are doing. If there’s any issues you can always just bump up the camera ISO a little.

      • Lachlan 1 year ago

        Thanks Flash havoc, yes our pricing isn’t that great over here! I will have a look around for the skii or dpii range (my understanding is the dpii is just a bit of a better build quality than the skii but effectively the same specs?) I require very sharp crisp images, would two 400s suffice or should I jump up to two 600s or a combination maybe 2x 400 and 1x 600 what would you do? I want to keep the cost down and yes we do have ac power. Thank you for your help it is much appreciated being a novice trying to navigate the lighting world!

  5. Norman Pimlott 12 months ago

    Great reviews, I have a couple of Godox SK300II’s and find in my (small) home studio they are too powerful & the 1/16 minimum power output doesn’t help. Yes I can put more diffusion over them to reduce the brightness but I was wondering if I put a 200 watt bulb in will it result in lower o/p or will it just blow the bulb ? Thnx in advance…

    • John Wilson 12 months ago

      A 200W flash tube would not reduce the power at the lowest power settings, would blow at the highest setting and could possibly damage your light.

      You could try gelling the lights with Neutral Density gels (Roscoe and Lee do a range of these they are quite inexpensive if you buy sheets rather than rolls).

      An alternative would be to buy a couple of TT600 speedlights and put them in Bowens mount S-Type brackets.

  6. Dan 10 months ago

    BOUGHT A GODOX X1Ts for my sony A7III but will not trigger the firing of the Nikon twin SB R200 flash’s for close up , I also have the Nissin I 40 twin flash. Please kindly suggest how I can make these 2 Flash system work with Sony A7III.Thank you.

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 10 months ago

      Hi Dan,

      I’m really not sure how you could use the SB R200, as they are controlled by the Nikon advanced optic wireless system. Unless they do have a basic optic wireless slave mode included?

      With the Nissin flashes you could use a trigger set like the Cactus V6 II, which have full cross brand TTL compatibility. Though you would be best to check with Cactus about compatibility with the particular Nissin flash.

      The easiest and most economical option would likely be to just get a couple of Godox TT350 flashes, as they have full compatibility with the Godox transmitter for Sony or Nikon. You could use either the TT350S, or TT350N, off camera with either Camera. Just choose the Sony or Nikon version you want for on-camera use as well (maybe one of each TT350S and TT350N).

      • John Wilson 10 months ago

        Some people have been questioning the cross system TTL capability of the various TT350 flavours. Do you know of any problems? In addition my TT350F doesn’t work properly in HSS mode with a TT600. I expect the HSS problem will be fixed in the next firmware update

  7. David Wilkins 9 months ago

    Thanks for the info on GOdox great post

  8. fatima 5 months ago

    i want to know what is the real difference between sk400ii and the Qs400ii

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 5 months ago

      Hi Fatima,

      The SK400II are more recent than the QS400II, though the SK were built to an entry level price with compact size and I think a full plastic case. Though the main limitation of the SK400II is likely the power range which only goes down to 1/16, instead of 1/32 like the QS400II.

      If you may be interested in a 300Ws flash, then Godox have also just announced the MS300 (& MS200) which are another entry level option, which do have a power range down to 1/32.

  9. Frank Lepisko 5 months ago

    Hello: i recently ordered a 860ii-O for m4:3 along with a spare li-on battery, The flash is enroute;but the battery arrived yesterday along with a white rubber usb dongle of some kind(?) I have not found it in any of the instructions posted online;

    I assume it is an antenna of sorts for the 860 (which I haven’t received yet) ???

    What is it and why do I have one shipped with the spare battery?

    • Author
      FLASH HAVOC 5 months ago

      Hi Frank,

      If you purchased from Ebay or Amazon its probably one of these flexible USB LED lights the seller has provided as a bonus gift.

      They’re handy to light your laptop keyboard if it doesn’t have button backlighting :-).

      No relation to the flash at all though.

      • Frank Lepisko 5 months ago

        LOL!
        Ha-Ha Wow! Yes thats it!: I was reluctant to just stick something into my mac book USB port (“Safe computing” and all)
        Thanks 🙂

  10. SamT 1 day ago

    Now, Godox is missing a laser trigger.

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