GODOX – 2.4GHz Flash System Overview

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

With the release of the recent 2.4GHz built-in radio strobes, Godox have been putting together one of the most comprehensive radio flash systems currently available.

Whats impressive about the Godox ecosystem is not only the large range of lights, with full compatibility between remote manual and TTL gear, but also intercompatibility between Canon, Nikon, and Sony TTL compatible versions (and more brands set to come).

It should be noted though, at the time of writing this some of the intercompatiblitly has evolved fairly quickly, as recently as the last few months. So although the main structure is there, the system is still an ongoing work in progress, and there will be some quirks and finer details which need to be refined over time through firmware updates etc.

And the main X1 TTL transmitter units, although completely functional for now, area a bit fiddly to use, and have already outgrown their hardware to some degree. Though they are set to be upgraded eventually anyway.

Many wedding photographers would also like to see an on-camera master speedlite with more refined features like AF assist light etc, to match the Canon and Nikon speedlites.

Otherwise the popular Godox remote manual speedlites and bare bulb flashes have proven themselves to be solid workhorses over the last few years. And the new TTL versions are proving to be just as good, with the recent AD600 strobe being a signification game changer in the lighting industry, as it likely transitions further towards the convenience of cordless strobes.

(Note – The Godox 2.4GHz radio system is not directly compatible with Canon or Nikon’s radio systems).

 

GODOX 2.4GHz FLASH SYSTEM OVERVIEW

 

Godox are just getting started with their first range of strobes with 2.4GHz radio built inside, though already this provides a broad range of transmitter, master, and slave flash options (with all the current hotshoe flashes functioning as both radio master and slave units in the system) –

 

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

And with the addition of clip on XTR-16/s radio receivers, a number of the popular legacy remote manual strobes can be combined as slave flash units in the 2.4GHz flash system (using the transmitter and master flash units shown above).

These include the –

 

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

And of course your original Canon, Nikon, and eventually Sony, TTL Speedlites can be combined in the system as well by mounting those on Godox X1R TTL receiver units.

 

SYSTEM SCALABILITY

 

Particularity for people starting out in off camera lighting, the scalability of Godox system offers a very practical option to get started with.

This is because the Godox remote manual flashes are compatible (in remote manual, and HSS use) with Godox’s more advanced TTL gear, as well as their broad range of larger TTL and manual strobes.

This means you can start with some inexpensive remote manual speedlites like the Godox TT600, (which are basically the Godox equivalent of the very popular YongNuo YN560 IV), and easily expand your kit with numerous other compatible Godox flash options later.

With YongNuo their remote manual and TTL systems have limited intercompatibility. And a lot of people get caught out with that after a short time when they want to start experimenting with HSS and TTL, and try to expand their kit.

With a HSS enabled Godox transmitter like the XT32, the TT600 speedlites (and many of the other Godox remote manual strobes) already include a HSS mode as well. Where HSS is only available with the TTL gear from YongNuo.

(Note – Remote flash head zoom is currently limited in the Godox system though compared to YongNuo’s functions).

 

 

PREVIOUS 433MHz RADIO SYSTEM

 

A quick history for people unfamiliar with the Godox system. A few years ago Godox released their first 433MHz frequency FT-16 remote manual radio system, to be used with the various remote manual strobes mentioned above.

Godox knew this system would need to evolve quite a bit in a relatively short time. And fortunately for many current customers Godox designed the radio receivers as small external clip on units, which could then be easily upgraded to a new radio system later on.

So Godox now provide 2.4GHz XT16 versions of the original 433MHz FT-16 transmitter and receivers.

And its these XTR16 and XTR16s receivers which link the legacy remote manual flashes to the new Godox 2.4GHz X radio flash system as detailed above.

(The original 433MHz FT-16 transmitter and receivers are still available, though you can imagine they will probably be phased out eventually as demand diminishes).

 

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

As well as remote manual power control, a number of the legacy Godox strobes like the popular AD360 also provide a HSS mode.

The FT-16 transmitter being a universal single firing pin unit though, cannot provide the early fire signal needed for HSS to function.

So with the 433MHz radio system a second Cells II transmitter was also needed to be mounted on the camera, while the FT-16 transmitter could be held in hand just for remote power control with the strobes.

GODOX_SYSTEM_16a500

 

CURRENT 2.4GHz TRANSMITTER UNITS

 

Godox now also produce XT32 transmitters, which provide the HSS signal and remote power control in one transmitter unit.

The Godox X1 transmitter then provides TTL as well.

  • X1T – TTL / HSS / Remote Manual
  • XT32 – HSS / Remote Manual
  • XT16 – Remote Manual

GODOX FLASH SYSTEMThe XT32 and XT16 transmitters also provide control for 16 individual Groups of lights, where the X1T currently provide up to 5 Groups.

  • X1T are available in – Canon, Nikon and Sony versions.
  • XT32 are available in – Canon, Nikon, Sony, and a “General” single firing pin version (no HSS).
  • XT16 are universal (single firing pin).

So you can choose the transmitter units which best suit your needs and budget.

 

MASTER FLASH UNITS

 

Currently all of the Godox hotshoe flashes with 2.4GHz X radio system built-in, also provide both radio master and slave modes.

So they can all act as a master / transmitter unit on-camera to the rest of the 2.4GHz flash system as well.

 

There are some differences between the Canon, Nikon, and Sony master units functionality, due to the way their various native TTL systems operate. Though Godox have to some degree been working towards standardizing these to provide 5 remote slave groups.

For example the Nikon master interface only provides for 3 TTL or remote manual groups, so Godox have allowed 2 more groups to at least be used in remote manual.

The Canon master interface provides a GR Group style interface with 5 TTL or remote manual groups, though pre 2012 cameras can still only access 3 groups. (Which really should be expanded to 5 groups in remote manual use at least).

The Sony master interface currently only provides the 3 TTL or remote manual slave groups. (Which again should really be expanded with 2 more remote manual groups at least).

 

CANON – NIKON –  SONY – INTERCOMPATIBILITY

 

Unlike the hotshoe mountable flashes above, larger strobes like the TTL enabled AD600B do not provide any radio master mode (as they can not be mounted on the camera hotshoe anyway).

Where this becomes very interesting though, is that the AD600B provide auto switching TTL radio slave modes for Canon, Nikon and Sony.

So the strobe automatically detects the signal and settings provided from an X1T-C, X1T-N, or X1T-S transmitter, mounted on a respective Canon, Nikon, or Sony camera’s hotshoe (as soon as you half press the cameras shutter button).

This means a photographer, or photographers, using Canon, Nikon, and Sony, cameras can effectively share the same set of strobes at the same time.

And Godox 2.4GHz TTL enabled master hotshoe flashes can be used in the same way as the transmitter unit on camera as well.

 

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

At the time of writing this, the same auto switching TTL radio slave modes for Canon Nikon and Sony have also been added to the AD360II-C and AD360II-N.

And the AD360II-S (for Sony) should provide all three TTL radio slave modes when the become available down the track as well.

Godox intend to eventually add these TTL radio slave modes to their TT685 and V860II speedlites through firmware updates as well. At which point there will virtually be intercompatibility throughout the full Godox 2.4GHz system in remote manual and TTL.

And furthermore, Godox are working on expanding into more TTL camera systems beyond Canon, Nikon and Sony, possibly from early 2017.

 

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

NOTE – X1T transmitters units can not currently provide TTL with alternate version X1R receivers (with TTL speedlite mounted on top).

 

ADORAMA FLASHPOINT & XPLOR 600 TTL

 

Its no secret that Godox lighting gear is often rebranded and sold under numerous brand and model names around the world. And in the USA superstore Adorama, and their in-house Flashpoint brand have become quite a significant player in the Godox System.

Adorama Flashpoint have exclusive rights in the USA to sell the TTL version of the Godox AD600 cordless strobes, sold under the Flashpoint brand as the XPLOR 600 TTL.

And that’s why you won’t currently find the game changing AD600B / XPLOR 600 TTL strobes available from any other US retailers.

 

 

Flashpoint have made quite a substantial investment in the Godox system, and that has allowed them to have a number of changes and refinements made which they feel will benefit their customers.

And that’s why we have seen some significant improvements to numerous components of the Godox flash system in a relatively short time. Important changes like the addition of the GR Group master mode to the Canon version Godox hotshoe flashes would not have happened if not for Flashpoint’s input.

 

The Flashpoint gear is currently fully compatible with the original Godox branded gear. Apart from incremental changes made over time, the Godox gear is generally the same regardless of branding.

Though the Flashpoint XPLOR 600 do come with a nice large padded case which the Godox versions are not currently supplied with. As well as a Flashpoint 2 year full USA warranty.

Flashpoint have their own naming structure as tabled below –

 

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

Godox X1T = Flashpoint R2 TTL Transmitter
Godox X1T = Flashpoint R2 TTL Receiver

Godox TT600 = Flashpoint Zoom R2 Manual
Godox V850II = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 Manual

Godox TT685 = Flashpoint Zoom R2 TTL
Godox V860II = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 TTL

Godox AD360II = Flashpoint Streaklight TTL

Godox AD600BM = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 HSS
Godox AD600B = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 TTL HSS

 

Godox XTR-16 = Flashpoint R2 Bridge SL
Godox XTR-16s = Flashpoint R2 Bridge ZL

Godox V850 = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on Manual
Godox V860 = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on TTL

Godox AD180 = Flashpoint Streaklight 180
Godox AD360 = Flashpoint Streaklight 360

Godox AR400 = Flashpoint Ring Li-on

 

 

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GODOX BUILT-IN 2.4GHz FLASHES

GODOX TT600 / V850II

 

On-Camera Dedication - UNIVERSAL / SONY (Single Pin)

Price - TT600 From $69 / V850II $99

Available - Now

Overview - TT600 / V850II

 

OUTPUT - GN 60m (ISO 100 / 200mm)

MODES - Manual / Multi

HSS - As Slave Flash Only

POWER – TT600 - 4 x AA Batteries / HV Battery Port

POWER – V850II - Lithium-Ion Battery (VB18) – NO HV Battery Port

 

RADIO MASTER -

  • Modes – Remote Manual / Multi
  • Groups – 5 Groups – A / B / C / D / E
  • Channels – 32

RADIO SLAVE  -

  • Modes – Remote Manual / Multi
  • Groups – 5 Groups – A / B / C / D / E
  • Channels – 32
  • XTR-16s / FTR-16s – Compatible

 

TT600 - Are basically Godox’s alternative to the popular YongNuo YN560 IV universal remote manual speedlites.

As well as providing remote manual radio master and slave modes, the TT600 can also provide a HSS mode when used as a radio slave flash to a Godox HSS enabled transmitter or master flash unit.

(No HSS when mounted on camera though, as the TT600 are single firing pin flashes).

The TT600 work as remote manual and HSS enabled radio slaves to any of the Canon, Nikon or Sony version Godox transmitter or master flash units. As well as remote manual radio slaves to  the single firing pin transmitter or master flash units (no HSS with those).

Remote zoom control is not currently available from the TT600’s master interface. And as a radio slave flash the X1 series transmitters can currently only provide a global zoom control for all radio slave groups at once.

Basic S1 and S2 Optic slave modes are also provided.

TT600S - A separate version of the TT600 area available with the Sony Multi Interface Hotshoe foot. Though as far as we are aware the TT600S still function the same as the single firing pin TT600.

 

V850II - provide the same functions as the TT600, though they are powered by a very convenient Lithium-Ion battery capable of 650 full power pops, and 1.5 second recycle time.

The V850II cost more than the TT600, though the price includes the Lithium-ion battery and charger.

 

TT600 – AdoramaEbay, Amazon, UK

V850II – AdoramaEbay, Amazon, UK

 

GODOX TT685 / V860II

 

On-Camera Dedication - CANON / NIKON / SONY 

Price - TT685 From $119 / V860II $179

Available - Now

Overview - TT685C / TT685N / TT685S

Overview - V860II-C / V860II-N / V860II-S

 

OUTPUT - GN 60m (ISO 100 / 200mm)

MODES - TTL / Manual / Multi

HSS - As Radio Master and Slave

POWER – TT685 - 4 x AA Batteries / HV Battery Port

POWER – V860II - Lithium-Ion Battery (VB18) – NO HV Battery Port

 

RADIO MASTER -

  • Modes – TTL / Remote Manual / Multi
  • Channels – 32
  • Groups TT685-C – 5 Remote Groups In GR Mode – A / B / C / D / E  (Group A can be the Master)
    (No GR Mode with pre 2012 Canon Cameras – 3 Groups only, and no mixed TTL & Manual)
  • Groups TT685-N – M Master and 3 Remote Groups – M / A / B / C
  • Groups TT685-S – M Master and 3 Remote Groups M / A / B / C

RADIO SLAVE  -

  • Modes – TTL / Remote Manual / Multi
  • TTL Slave Modes – Currently Same As On-camera Dedication Only (Canon, Nikon, or Sony)
  • Channels – 32
  • Groups TT685-C – 3 Groups – A / B / C
  • Groups TT685-N – 3 Groups – A / B / C
  • Groups TT685-S – 3 Groups – A / B / C
  • XTR-16s / FTR-16s – Compatible

 

TT685 - are currently Godox’s flagship TTL, HSS, and remote manual speedlites.

The TT685 provide full TTL and remote manual radio master and slave modes. Though they do not provide alternate Canon, Nikon, and Sony radio slave modes at this stage, as the AD360II and AD600 do. Godox are likely to add these eventually through firmware updates though.

Remote zoom control is not currently available from the TT685 /V860II’s master interface. And used as a radio slave flash to the X1 series transmitters, the X1 can currently only provide a global zoom control for all radio slave groups at once.

Optic Wireless TTL master and slave modes are provided for the corresponding on-camera brand version of the flash only.

Basic S1 and S2 Optic slave modes are also provided.

 

V860II - provide the same functions as the TT685, though they are powered by a very convenient Lithium-Ion battery capable of 650 full power pops, and 1.5 second recycle time.

(Note – the TT685 used with an external battery pack like the PB960 can still recycle faster than the V860II, so for on-camera use some people still prefer the AA powered flash and external pack).

The V860II cost more than the TT685, though the price includes the Lithium-ion battery and charger.

 

TT685C – AdoramaEbay, Amazon, UK
TT685N – AdoramaEbay, Amazon, UK
TT685S – AdoramaEbay, Amazon, UK

V860II-C – AdoramaEbayAmazon, UK
V860II-N – AdoramaEbayAmazon, UK
V860II-S – AdoramaEbayAmazon, UK

 

 

GODOX AD360II

 

On-Camera Dedication - CANON / NIKON

Price - From $490

Available - Now

Overview - AD360II-C / AD360II-N

 

OUTPUT - Approx 300Ws

MODES - TTL / Manual / Multi

HSS - As Radio Master and Slave

POWER - External Lithium-Ion Battery Pack (PB-960)

 

RADIO MASTER -

  • Modes – TTL / Remote Manual / Multi
  • Channels – 32
  • Groups AD360II-C – 3 Remote Groups – A / B / C  (Group A can be the Master)
  • Groups AD360II-N – M Master and 3 Remote Groups – M / A / B / C

RADIO SLAVE  -

  • Modes – TTL / Remote Manual / Multi
  • TTL Slave ModesAuto Switching – CANON / NIKON / SONY
  • Channels – 32
  • Groups AD360II-C – 3 Groups – A / B / C
  • Groups AD360II-N – 3 Groups – A / B / C
  • XTR-16s / FTR-16s – Compatible

 

AD360II are the TTL and radio enabled version of the popular original remote manual AD360 remote manual bare bulb strobes.

As well as TTL, remote manual, and HSS enabled radio master modes, the AD360II-C and AD360II-N both provide auto switching TTL radio slave modes for Godox’s Canon, Nikon, and Sony TTL master units.

Remote zoom control is not currently available from the AD360II’s master interface.

Optic Wireless TTL master and slave modes are provided for the corresponding on-camera brand version of the flash only.

Basic S1 and S2 Optic slave modes are also provided.

 

AD360II-C – AdoramaEbay, Amazon, UK
AD360II-N – Adorama, Ebay, Amazon, UK

 

GODOX AD600B / AD600BM 

 

On-Camera Dedication - None

Price - AD600B From $750 / AD600BM $550

Available - Now

Overview - AD600B / AD600BM

 

OUTPUT - Approx 600Ws

MODES AD600B - TTL / Manual / Multi

MODES AD600BM - Manual / Multi

HSS - As Radio Slave

POWER - Built-in Lithium-Ion Battery

 

RADIO SLAVE  -

  • Modes AD600B – TTL / Remote Manual / Multi
  • Modes AD600BM – Remote Manual / Multi
  • TTL Slave ModesAuto Switching – CANON / NIKON / SONY
  • Channels – 32
  • Groups – 5 Groups – A / B / C / D / E
  • XTR-16s / FTR-16s – Compatible

 

AD600B / XPLOR 600 – cordless TTL and radio enabled off-camera bare bulb strobes.

As well as remote manual, and HSS, the AD600B provide auto switching TTL radio slave modes for Godox’s Canon, Nikon, and Sony TTL master units.

Optic Wireless TTL slave modes for both Canon and Nikon are provided.

Basic S1 and S2 Optic slave modes are also provided.

 

AD600BM – are basically the same as the AD600B, though without TTL capability. They still provide HSS and remote manual power control.

 

AD600B – AdoramaEbay, Amazon. UK
AD600BM – AdoramaEbay, Amazon, UK

 

GODOX QT600IIM 

 

On-Camera Dedication - None

Price - From $599

Available - Now

Overview - QT600IIM

 

OUTPUT - Approx 600Ws

MODES - Manual / Multi

HSS - As Radio Slave

POWER - AC Mains Power (110V & 220V versions)

 

RADIO SLAVE  -

  • Modes Remote Manual / Multi
  • Channels – 32
  • Groups – 16 Groups – A / B / C / D / E / F, and 0 – 9
  • XTR-16s / FTR-16s – Compatible

 

QT600II-M are short flash duration and HSS enabled, remote manual, IGBT, AC powered studio lights. Available in 110V and 220V versions.

A dual mode can prioritize between short flash durations for freezing motion, or higher color consistency across the power range.

In radio slave mode the QT600IIM can function with the various manual power scales available through the XT-32 transmitter. So they can be used alongside legacy Godox studio strobes which use a number of different power scales.

The Qt600IIM also provide the full 16 radio slave groups provided by the XT-32 and XT-16 transmitter units.

Basic S1 and S2 Optic slave modes are also provided.

 

Adorama, Ebay, Amazon, UK

 

GODOX 2.4GHz TRANSMITTERS (To be Continued)

 

Godox – Website

Godox – Firmware Updates

 

 

 

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238 Comments
  1. Mike Catuara 3 months ago

    I see so you are saying that Good will provide a firmware update for these flashes in early 2017, right? Can’t wait.

  2. Chris 3 months ago

    I see you spec the TT685/V860II for Nikon as having 5 groups with 2 manual. This is true for the X1 transmitter, but not the V860II (I do not have a TT685), but would assume they use the same interface with the only difference being the lithium battery. I believe I have the latest firmware, but only have 3 groups plus master.

  3. Adam Chandler 3 months ago

    I recently bought a pair of the V860II and like them except I can’t manually control the zoom setting unless I attach my Yongnuo triggers (which kind of defeats the purpose of switching to all-in-one units). Am I missing something or do you know if there may be a firmware update for this?

    • Chris 3 months ago

      Adam, that is correct. Godox does not currently offer the ability to remote zoom the flash units. I do not know if they are planning on that or not.

  4. Mono 3 months ago

    Any more news on the AD200 … ?
    Also … has anyone used an XT32 with a Fuji X100S camera? With mine the XT foot is too long for the pin to align correctly and wont trigger any flashes – but an FT16 is fine

  5. Nic 3 months ago

    I just got the Godox X1C kit. My 580 exii won’t fire with it. The test button does activate the flash and turning the wheel changes the settings on the flash. I’ve updated the firmware to the most current version. Any help would be appreciated!

    • Trevor Awalt 2 months ago

      Nic, I have purchased the StrobePro rebranded units in Canada. I use their XTC (transmitter) and XRC (receiver) for my 5DMKII/7D and the 580EXII and it works great. Did you purchase the Godox X1T and the X1R, if not your missing the X1R.

  6. Author
    Flash Havoc 2 months ago

    UPDATE – Godox have uploaded new V1.4 firmware for the V860II-C, V860II-N, and V860II-S, which appear to add the alternate Canon, Nikon, and Sony radio slave modes to each flash.

    http://www.godox.com/EN/Download.html

  7. uffneked 2 months ago

    Can I trigger the XTR16 with an X1C? Of course manual mode is OK.
    The plan is to have a TT685, a DE300, an X1C and an XTR16.
    I could trigger the TT685 with the X1C in TTL, but if I need to use the DE300, I could trigger both the TT685 and the DE300 (connected with an XTR16) in manual mode.
    Is this correct?

  8. Nishant 2 months ago

    It would be interesting to see how the AD200 fits into the scheme of things here. I would have wished a Speedlite for factor strobe with modelling light. But, I have a feeling AD200 might not have it. Still, it seems very interesting to have a dedicated off-camera flash in this ecosystem. Way to go, Godox!

  9. Matt 1 month ago

    I am very interested in this wireless flash system, and the AD360 for canon. Everything I read refers to Sony, Canon, Nikon.
    What I want to know is how can I use this with my view camera?

    Thanks

  10. Nick Fletcher 4 weeks ago

    I am interested to know the best workaround for getting supersync / hypbersync on the AD600 TTL and AD360ii. I’m currently using the XT1-N trigger and don’t want to have to buy a full set of pocketwizard triggers. I understand you can use a supersync / hypersync enabled trigger and then piggy back the XT1 ontop. Is that correct and which is the best trigger to use for this (ideally I’d like the timing adjustment to the hypersync that Phottix and Pocketwizard give you). Any thoughts

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

      Hi Nick,

      The X1T transmitters have their own timing adjustment, as do the XT32 (only available for Canon so far).

      So all you need is an X1R receiver attached to the AD600 via PC sync cord.

      For the AD360II you could use an XTR-16 clip on receiver (or an X1R receiver attached via PC sync cord).

  11. Alex 2 weeks ago

    So if i understood correctly the TT600 Manual version works also with the X1T-S Sony trigger ?

    I’m looking to combine multiple speedlights on a flash bracket but it looks that most brackets are made for universal hot shoe strobes and not for Multi interface shoe flashes. so the only difference between the tt600 and the tt600s is the shoe. ( for hss) on camera use ? I know the sony camera’s with mi interface can fire virtually any flash in manual mode, but HSS i’m not so sure about. So is on camera HSS the only reason for godox making the tt600S ?.

  12. Ram 2 hours ago

    How to use the hot shoe on X1/R2 transmitter? I am a bit frustrated trying to understand and make use of the hot shoe. All help is highly appreciated.

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