GODOX & FLASHPOINT – 2.4GHz Flash System Overview

 

With the release of their 2.4GHz enabled strobes, Godox and Flashpoint have been putting together one of the most comprehensive and now popular radio flash systems currently available.

What’s attractive about the Godox ecosystem is not only the large range of well priced and innovative lights on offer, but also the complete compatibility throughout the system, from the cheapest remote manual speedlites, to the larger cordless TTL, and AC powered studio strobes.

With impressive releases like the AD600 PRO / XPLOR PRO, and AD200 / EVOLV 200, Godox are now leading the way in many respects, for others to follow.

Another major feature is the cross platform support for multiple camera systems. All of the speedlites and strobes in the Godox 2.4GHz system now provide auto sensing radio receiver modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, and Fuji.

This means photographers using different camera brands can effectively share the same set of remote strobes at the same time. And this includes full TTL and HSS functionality where available.

 

 

So Godox have been developing a very versatile, practical, and affordable, radio flash system, now attracting a large user base worldwide.

Its not all perfect though, and still a work in progress in areas. With a system of this scale already having so many components, there are a number of (generally minor) quirks and details needing refinement over time, through firmware updates etc.

And although having the innovative advantage of built-in Lithium-ion batteries, the current Godox master speedlites have been a weak point in the system for wedding photographers, who would often like to see an on-camera master speedlite with refined features more closely matching the performance of the original Canon and Nikon speedlites.

Off camera TTL performance with strobes like game changing AD600 PRO / XPLOR PRO, and original AD600 / XPLOR have mostly been solid and consistent since their first release.

And the previous remote manual speedlites and bare bulb flashes have proven themselves to be solid workhorses over a number of years now. The Godox radio system has also shown to be generally reliable with good range.

NOTE – The Godox 2.4GHz radio system is not directly compatible with Canon or Nikon’s radio systems.

 

GODOX 2.4GHz FLASH SYSTEM OVERVIEW

 

Godox now provide a broad range of strobes with 2.4GHz radio built inside. This provides numerous transmitter, master, and receiver flash options.

All of the 2.4GHz hotshoe flashes function as both radio master and receiver units in the Godox system –

 

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

And with the addition of clip on XTR-16/s radio receivers, a number of the previously popular legacy remote manual strobes can be combined as receiver flash units in the 2.4GHz flash system (using the transmitter and master flash units shown above).

These include the –

 

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

NOTE – When looking at AC powered studio lights, at this stage its usually best to go with Mark II Godox lights which have the 2.4GHz radio receiver built inside, because the older AC lights often use different power scales which are no longer supported by current transmitters like the Xpro.

 

And your original Canon, Nikon, and Sony, TTL Speedlites, and non-Godox studio lights can also be combined in the system by attaching those to Godox X1R receiver units (as discussed further below).

 

 

ADORAMA FLASHPOINT R2 SYSTEM

 

In the USA Adorama also sell the Godox System under their Flashpoint branding, providing great support and helping to develop and refine the system.

The Flashpoint equipment is fully compatible with the original Godox branded gear, and Flashpoint provide up to 3 year full USA warranty.

And Adorama now also sell Godox branded products not listed under the Flashpoint branding.

 

 

Flashpoint have their own naming structure as tabled below –

 

FLASHPOINT R2 SYSTEM

 

Godox Xpro = Flashpoint R2 Pro Transmitter – Canon – Nikon – SonyM4/3Fuji

Godox X1T = Flashpoint R2 TTL Transmitter – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji
Godox X1R = Flashpoint R2 TTL Receiver – Canon – Nikon – Sony

Godox XT32 = Flashpoint R2T 32 Transmitter – Canon – Nikon

Godox A1 = Flashpoint M1 PRO

 

Godox TT350 = Flashpoint Zoom Mini R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji
Godox V350 = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on Mini R2 TTLSony – Fuji

Godox TT600 = Flashpoint Zoom R2 Manual
Godox V850II = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 Manual

Godox TT685 = Flashpoint Zoom R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji
Godox V860II = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji

Godox AD360II = Flashpoint Streaklight 360 R2 TTL – CanonNikon

Godox AD200  = Flashpoint EVOLV 200 R2 TTL
Godox AD-B2 = Flashpoint EVOLV Twin Head

 

Godox AD600BM = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 HSS
Godox AD600B = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 TTL HSS
Godox AD-H600B = Flashpoint Extension Head 600Ws
Godox AD-H1200B = Flashpoint Extension Head 1200Ws

Godox AD600 PRO = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO TTL
Godox AD-H600 PRO = Flashpoint XP600 PRO Extension Head

 

Godox SK300II = Flashpoint Studio 300
Godox SK400II = Flashpoint Studio 400

Godox QT400IIM = Flashpoint Rapid 400 HSS
Godox QT600IIM = Flashpoint Rapid 600 HSS
Godox QT1200IIM = Flashpoint Rapid 1200 HSS

 

Godox XTR-16 = Flashpoint R2 Bridge SL
Godox XTR-16s = Flashpoint R2 Bridge ZL

Godox AD360 = Flashpoint Streaklight 360
Godox AR400 = Flashpoint Ring Li-on

 

Godox PB960 = Flashpoint Blast Power Pack PB-960
Godox LP800x = Flashpoint Power Station PS-800

Godox S-Type Bracket – Glow S-Type Bracket

 

Adorama also now sell – Godox branded products

Flashpoint products are also available – on Amazon

 

 

TRANSMITTERS

 

The Godox Xpro are the latest, and main transmitter option now in the Godox 2.4GHz system. Providing a vastly improvement user interface, and generally increased functionality over the previous X1T transmitter.

Available in Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3 and Fuji versions, the Xpro display 5 groups at a time, or zooms to display the current group larger and in more detail.

The provided TCM function is a significant feature, allowing quick initial TTL exposures to be converted to manual power settings for further refinement and consistency.

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

The transmitter units available for the Godox 2.4GHz radio flash system –

  • XPro – TTL / HSS / Remote Manual
  • X1T – TTL / HSS / Remote Manual
  • XT32 – HSS / Remote Manual
  • XT16 – Remote Manual

GODOX FLASH SYSTEMThe XPro, XT32, and XT16, transmitters also provide control for 16 Groups in Manual mode, where the X1T currently provide up to 5 Groups at most.

The XT32 and XT16 providing alternate power scales compatible with older mark one Godox studio lights.

 

MASTER FLASHES

 

Currently all of the Godox hotshoe flashes with 2.4GHz X radio system built-in, also provide both radio master and receiver modes.

So they can all act as a master / transmitter unit on-camera to the rest of the 2.4GHz flash system.

 

There are some differences between the Canon, Nikon, and Sony master units functionality, due to the way their various native TTL systems operate.

For example the Nikon master interface only provides for 3 TTL or remote manual groups, so Godox have allowed 2 more groups to at least be used in remote manual.

The Canon master interface provides a GR Group style interface with 5 TTL or remote manual groups, though pre 2012 cameras can still only access 3 groups.

The Sony master interface currently only provides the 3 TTL or remote manual receiver groups. (Which should really be expanded with 2 more remote manual groups).

 

RECEIVERS

 

The X1R receivers were originally released alongside the X1T transmitter, as TTL and HSS enabled transmitter and receiver set.

Though the X1R are also currently the only receivers available in the Godox 2.4GHz system for firing non-Godox studio lights, or manual speedlites etc.

Studio lights can be fired with X1R receivers when attached via a sync cord. No remote control is available then, except that receiver groups can be turned On and Off remotely from the transmitter.

Currently there are only Canon, Nikon, and Sony X1R receiver versions available. Though any of the Godox 2.4GHz transmitters or master flashes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, and Fuji, will fire any X1R receiver version.

So at this stage M4/3 and Fuji users can select any of the Canon Nikon or Sony X1R receivers to fire their additional non-Godox studio lights.

 

 

For Speedlight use the X1R receivers will provide full TTL and HSS when using corresponding and compatible, Canon, Nikon, and Sony, speedlites mounted on the receivers hotshoe.

In this case cross platform support is generally limited at this stage, usually to firing the flash, and possibly remote manual power control.

Also the X1R receivers have tended to be a lower priority in the system, and even when using corresponding brand genuine speedlites there have been numerous quirks which come and go with firmware changes in the system.

So it can be preferable to actually consider inexpensive Godox speedlites rather than purchasing X1R receivers for your current speedlites (particularly if they are third party). As Godox speedlites like the TT685 do not cost that much more than the X1R receivers, and work seamlessly in the system, even across brands.

 

The only other receivers currently available in the Godox system are the FTR-16/s and XTR-16/s. Which only work with Godox flashes providing the dedicated communication ports to attach them (as discussed in more detail further below).

 

CROSS PLATFORM COMPATIBILITY

 

A major feature of the Godox system is now the cross platform support for multiple camera systems.

All of the speedlites and strobes in the Godox 2.4GHz system now provide auto sensing / switching radio receiver modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, and Fuji.

This means photographers using different camera brands can effectively share the same set of remote strobes at the same time. And this includes full TTL and HSS functionality where available.

 

 

All of the Godox TTL speedlites / hotshoe flashes now provide the same auto sensing TTL radio slave modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, and Fuji.

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

SYSTEM SCALABILITY

 

Particularity for people getting started in off camera lighting, the scalability of Godox system offers a very practical option to start out with.

This is because the Godox remote manual flashes are compatible (in remote manual, and HSS use) with Godox’s more advanced TTL gear, as well as their broad range of larger TTL and manual strobes.

This means you can start with some inexpensive remote manual speedlites like the Godox TT600, (which are basically Godox’s alternative to the popular YongNuo YN560 IV), and easily expand your kit with numerous other compatible Godox flash options later.

With YongNuo the remote manual and TTL systems have limited intercompatibility. And a lot of people get caught out with that after a short time when trying to expand their kit to experiment with HSS or TTL.

With a HSS enabled Godox transmitter like the Xpro, the TT600 speedlites (and most other Godox remote manual strobes) already include a HSS mode. Where HSS is only available with the TTL gear in the YongNuo system.

Note – Remote flash head zoom is not currently provided with the manual TT600 or V850II speedlites, where YongNuo’s YN560 systems does allow this.

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

PREVIOUS 433MHz RADIO SYSTEM

 

A quick history for people unfamiliar with the original Godox system. Not so many years ago Godox released their first 433MHz frequency, FT-16 remote manual radio system. To be used with their various original remote manual strobes (mentioned further above).

Godox knew this system would need to evolve quite a lot in a relatively short time. And fortunately for many previous customers, Godox designed the radio receivers as small external clip on units, which could then be easily upgraded to a new radio system later on.

So Godox now provide 2.4GHz XT16 versions of the original 433MHz FT-16 transmitter and receivers.

And these XTR16 and XTR16s receivers link the legacy remote manual flashes to the new Godox 2.4GHz X radio flash system as detailed above.

(The original 433MHz FT-16 transmitter and receivers are still available, though you can imagine they will probably be phased out eventually as demand reduces).

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

As well as remote manual power control, a number of the legacy Godox strobes like the popular AD360 also provide a HSS mode.

The FT-16 transmitter being a universal single firing pin unit though, cannot communicate with the camera to provide the early fire signal needed for HSS to function.

So with the 433MHz radio system a second Cells II transmitter was also needed to be mounted on the camera, while the FT-16 transmitter could be held in hand just for remote power control with the strobes.

With the current 2.4GHz system, the Xpro, X1T, and XT32 transmitters, basically combine the XT-16 and Cells II into one more convenient transmitter unit. So the Cells II, FT-16, and XT-16 transmitters have become mostly redundant now.

Though the FT-16 transmitter can still be useful with some cameras that otherwise have issues with non single firing pin transmitters.

GODOX_SYSTEM_16a500

 

 

This post is PART 1 of the Godox and Flashpoint 2.4GHz radio flash system overview.

Continue to PART 2 – Godox and Flashpoint Radio Flash Models.

 

PART 1 –  GODOX & FLASHPOINT 2.4GHz SYSTEM OVERVIEW
PART 2 – GODOX & FLASHPOINT FLASH MODELS
PART 3 – GODOX & FLASHPOINT RADIO TRIGGER MODELS

 

Godox – Website

Godox – Firmware Updates

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425 Comments
  1. Jamesy 11 months ago

    Is the Godox gear the best overall solution for Fuji (once released) for off camera flash? I have Yongnuo (622Tx/Rx and 685s) for my Canon 5d3 setup and can use the 622Tx as long as 622Rx units are under the YN-685s, without the 622 under the 685 the 685 will lockup.

    Could I get a X1TC for my Canon and a X1TF for Fuji and fire one common set of lights?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 11 months ago

      Hi Jamesy,

      At this stage yes, the Godox system would be the main option, and once all available and functioning you could use a Canon and Fuji version Godox transmitter to control the one common set of lights (and lots of lights to choose from).

      I would expect the Fuji X1 (or very possibly X2 at this stage) transmitter will come last though, so you will likely have to make do with the TT350F speedlite as master instead for some time yet.

      In the mean time other manufacturers may well be working on Fuji compatibility as well, and if you’re mainly only after speedlites at this stage, then Nissin are likely going to be the main alternative, with their Air 10s transmitter expected in July.

      There will be more companies on board with Fuji by the end of the year, though Godox have the largest range of lights available if that’s of interest. Who actually performs the best with compatibility etc we will have to wait and see.

      Regarding your YN685, I’m not sure what’s happening there, I assume you mean that’s locking up when using the YN-622C-TX on the Fuji camera?

      • Neil 8 months ago

        I have the TT350F and an AD200. The TT350F does not work in TTL mode when controlled by my X1T-C. Only the AD200 seems to have working TTL with both the Fuji and Canon cameras. I have upgraded the firmware of the AD200, X1T-C, but cannot find any later firmware for the TT350 series.

  2. Jamesy 11 months ago

    Elvis, Thanks for the reply.

    The Godox system seems very interesting indeed and I have been looking at the Nissin kit as well but they are pretty pricey units, although they sound very reliable from what I have read.

    Side note, I just bought the Phottix 28″ Multi-boom you designed – I already own the 16″. The 28″ is outstanding.

    The YN-685 locks up when triggered with the 622-Tx, yes. I bought my son a similar setup for his Fuji X-T1 this past Christmas and while his does not lockup, he can’t get channels to shut-off. I updated my firmware on the trigger to the latest version to no avail and will do his this week when we get together.

    He shoots weddings and the Godox or Nissin are starting to look very compelling – leaning towards the Godox system.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 11 months ago

      Thanks Jamesy.

      Yes the pricing is obviously why Godox has been so successful. The problem with that is they are just picking off the low hanging fruit when it comes to the on-camera / master flash side of things, or refining details, which can be a problem at this stage for wedding photographers (trying to have one integrated system at least).

      Nissin are bound to be moving into larger strobes eventually, and that’s where their pricing may not be as far off (as we have seen with strobes like the SMDV BRiHT-360). Its going to take some time to see how this all plays out though, and others will likely join in with Fuji compatibility by then as well.

  3. Brian 10 months ago

    I have just ordered a Godox TT360o for micro four thirds (finally). I mainly do studio work and obviously the little TT360 has it’s limitations. I was also reviewing the Cactus system and I’m intrigued with their claim of interoperability. In some reviews of the Godox system they suggest that the same is true with the Godox system as long as you use the appropriate receiver for the secondary flashes. i.e. using my Olympus with an X1 (or X2) on Camera I can control my off camera TT360 directly and with the appropriate X1 attached to a Canon flash (600EX-RT) all would work including TTL and HSS. Am I reading this wrong or is this the case?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Hi Brian,

      I would think that is the eventual intention. Though having said that I’m not sure if Godox has officially stated that, and from what we have seen the receivers have been the lowest priority at this stage as they are still busy getting their own lights all linked up and working correctly across systems.

      And when you can buy flashes like the TT685 so inexpensively with receiver already built in, the separate receivers haven’t been a big issue.

      Cactus don’t have much in the way of their own lights at this stage so they have been more focused on making original flashes work with their receivers. Built in radio is where the biggest demand is at this stage though.

      • Brian 10 months ago

        Okay, so presumably Godox will introduce the TT685 for the Olympus standard, which would make a separate receiver redundant,
        Does their interoperability mean that you could add an X1-Ro for Olympus to a TT685 or other strobe meant for Canon or Nikon and it would work from an X1-To on the camera?
        Of course, having Olympus versions of all their strobes would be the ultimate. I suppose I should include Fuji to the list to placate my son’s system preference!

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 10 months ago

          You wouldn’t need to add an external receiver the flash. I’m not sure how long it will take, though Godox will add Olympus and Fuji radio receiver modes to all their TTL flashes via firmware update. So they will all have auto switching Canon, Nikon, Sony, Olympus, and Fuji radio slave modes built-into the one flash. (They already have Canon, Nikon, and Sony installed).

          There has been some talk of the updates to come at the end of July, though I don’t know how accurate that is.

          So you can imagine down the track once they have had time to resolve their own lights, they will work on receivers and cross compatibility between those as well. At this stage though they haven’t even released a receiver for Sony at all yet.

          At the least though, remote manual power control should work across X1 receivers from different camera systems from the time of release.

          • Brian 10 months ago

            Thank you, that clears things up considerably. I feel confident that I can invest in their product line. My assumption was that you had to buy the specific strobe model to match the camera manufacturer you were using.

            • Author
              Flash Havoc 10 months ago

              No worries, you only need the strobe to match the camera manufacturer for on-camera use in TTL or HSS etc.

  4. zoltan 10 months ago

    Hi Flash,

    Is it true that the new Godox X2 transmitter is coming this July?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Hi Zoltan,

      Anything is possible, though I would think that’s unlikely. We haven’t seen the first working sample of the Flashpoint version yet, so unless Godox have pushed ahead with the Godox version I wouldn’t think its likely to be available in the next month.

  5. Kathy 10 months ago

    Dunno if you feel like updating just for this, but Adorama’s listing the X1T-O, TT685-O, TT685-F, V860II-O, and V860II-F up for pre-order. And they just posted AD200 v2.0 firmware which should make it compatible with the -O and -F transmitters (as well as the LED head). They also updated the G1 software to G2.

    • Kathy 10 months ago

      p.s. they also listed the X1R-O as “in development”, and updated the X1R-S listing to say it’s coming “mid-2017”. And Godox also issued a v20 update for the X1T-N and v18 update to the X1R-N to fix SB-910/SB-5000 compatibility.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Thanks Kathy!

  6. Régis Corbet 10 months ago

    Things are moving quickly, the V2.4 firmware update (24/06/2017) brings Godox AD600/Flashpoint XPLOR 600 compatibility with Olympus, Panasonic and Fuji cameras

  7. Author
    Flash Havoc 10 months ago

    UPDATE – Godox have now published firmware to add Fuji and Olympus / Panasonic radio slave modes to the TT685 and V860II for Canon / Nikon / Sony, and the AD360II or Canon / Nikon.

    http://www.godox.com/EN/Download.html

    The similar AD200 and AD600B / BM updates are already up there as well, so all the 2.4GHz lights are now Fuji and Olympus / Panasonic compatible.

  8. Regis Corbet 10 months ago

    Does anyone know if a Nikon SB speedlight hooked on a X1R-N can be triggered and controlled by a X1T-C or X1T-S?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 10 months ago

      Hi Regis,

      I updated all the firmware and checked this again, and remote manual power control and HSS appear to be working fine.

      TTL is not working with the Canon transmitter, and not really with Sony either. With Sony there does appear to be some TTL happening, though not correct exposures, or FEC adjustments etc.

      So I would say at this stage Godox were still just aiming at remote manual and HSS compatibility.

      • Régis Corbet 10 months ago

        Thank you very much for that very detailed reply. TTL is not particularly important for me, so I can go for Godox X1 system!

  9. Benson 10 months ago

    Hi, if I use a x1r-c with a yn600ex-rt on it, can I get iTTL and HSS with a x1r-n on a nikon camera?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 9 months ago

      Hi Benson,

      With the YN600EX-RT, remote manual appears to be working, though no TTL or HSS.

      I tried the Canon 600EX-RT at the same time and remote manual and TTL appears to work with that, though no HSS in manual or TTL.

      I’m not sure if the YN600EX-RT II may be any more compatible or not.

      And all the firmware keeps changing so this is likely a fluid situation.

  10. Suzanne Martin 10 months ago

    I have a godox 680 c flash light and transmitter .. Can I use the flash off camera is Multi mode/. I want to use the stroboscopic flash off camera. Thanks for any help Suzanne

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 9 months ago

      Hi Suzanne,

      As long as you have a transmitter like the X1 which provides Mulit mode, then you should be right to use Multi mode off camera.

  11. Regis Corbet 10 months ago

    Wish Godox will soon make a product like a hotshoe less v850, with the Ad200 form factor at a smaller size, something I can keep all the time in my camera bag

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 9 months ago

      Hi Regis,

      That’s an interesting thought. And I guess there’s a lot of things you could do in the future, though I would hope they would do some other things as a priority first.

      We had been harassing YongNuo years ago just to do a bare bulb speedlite at least. And that whole area never really eventuated, though hopefully the AD200 will have a lot of companies exploring different possibilities now.

  12. Author
    Flash Havoc 9 months ago

    UPDATE – HSS with FUJI / M4/3 and Manual Godox Strobes Not Working

    There appears to be an issue emerging, where HSS will not work using the Fuji or Olympus / Panasonic TT350F / TT350O master flashes with MANUAL strobes like the TT685, V850II, and original AD180 / AD360 using the XTR-16 clip in receivers (and likely the original V850 then as well).

    The flashes simply won’t fire once the camera shutter is set over X-sync.

    None of these flashes have USB ports for firmware updates, so this is a bit of a concern. I don’t know if Godox are able (or have intention of) fixing this from the transmitter end.

    • Alex 7 months ago

      I just ordered a set of the XTR-16’s and the X1t transmitter, the idea being to upgrade my V850 to finally be able to provide HSS. I guess I’ll find out for sure in the morning regardless but has there been any development about this? I emailed “Gwen” a contact I had about batteries at Godox but apparently she is no longer with the company, emails to the tech support account have gone unanswered.

      • Alex 7 months ago

        Just an Update.

        The Ving 850 (gen 1), xtr-16 receiver, and X1T-O will provide HSS functionality on the GX8 as well as the EM-5 mkI. the Ving 850 has to be put in HSS mode by pressing the MF/H button until the HS symbol comes up. EM-5 showed almost no banding up to 1/4000 (max shutter) the GX8 shows minimal banding at the top of the frame up to 1/8000.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 7 months ago

          Thanks Alex,

          Sorry I meant to say earlier you might want to look at the more recent comments in the X1T-O and TT350o threads on this.

  13. Jakob 9 months ago

    I use Fuji XT-2 cameras. If I want to get the AD360II, does it matter which version I buy (Nikon or Canon)? And: should I possibly wait for a potential Fuji Version of the AD3600II?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 9 months ago

      Hi Jacob,

      That’s an interesting question. I don’t think it would make any difference which version you get, if its only for Fuji use.

      I really don’t know if Godox have any intention of eventually making Fuji or M4/3 version AD360II. I think the main reason for not doing the Sony version was due to the weaker Sony hotshoe design.

      Personally I think the current AD360II will fast become a thing of the past now that the AD200 are available. They are only 0.3 to 0.5 stops behind in output and considerably more compact and convenient.

      So in that regard I’d personally be surprised if Godox are wanting to develop the current AD360II any further. IMO the really need to get moving on a cordless AD360.

  14. Mark Kitaoka 9 months ago

    My recent experience using multiple Xplor/Godox lights can be found on my blog:
    http://www.markkitaoka.com/latest-news/xplorgodox-how-it-has-changed-my-workflow/
    Using Xplor600s, eVOLV200s and Godox 360s.

    Love the system.

  15. Manuel 9 months ago

    HI!
    We are having problems with a multiple shooter setup for weddings:
    2 x X1T-N (or 860ii N) controlling 4 to 5 AD200s in TTL.

    -1st Problem: only 3 groups on the Master Speedlight 860ii N … why not at least 3 groups in TTL and 2 more in manual as the X1t-N does?

    -2nd Problem: We absolutely dont understand the way 2 or more master units (X1t or 860ii) are supposed to work together for multiple shooters at events sharing the same lights. If I have a certain light configuration adjusted on my master unit and my partner changes the parameters the system goes crazy and adopts the changed settings of my partner + turning on the flashes that are active on my unit.

    Does anybody know if we are doing something wrong here? All firmware is up to date.

    Kind regards from sunny Spain.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 9 months ago

      Hi Manuel,

      The multible shooter thing is a bit confusing at the moment. Godox have added a C.Fn-09 to the X1T-N which if turned ON updates the slave strobe settings before each shot. So give they a try if you haven’t already.

      The V860II-C does not currently have this custom function option though, so I assume the V860II-N doesn’t either? So you have to press the test fire button (or adjust settings) to update the slave flash before taking a shot.

      With C.Fn-09 turned off on the X1T-N you should also need to press the test fire button (or adjust settings) to update the slave flash before taking a shot.
      .

      Regarding the V860II-N and only having 3 groups. I know that’s frustrating. I have no idea why Godox are not trying to standardize this to 5 Groups. At the very least all the flashes could provide 5 slave groups as standard, but Godox have been making many of the speedlites 3 groups.

      I can only suggest people email them – godox@godox.com and let them know 5 groups as standard would make more sense.

      • Manuel 9 months ago

        HI!
        c.fn 09 was added in the latest update and i have overlooked it. Thank you so much for the info. Now they just need to add it to their master flash.
        Kind regards,
        Manuel

      • Manuel 9 months ago

        Update: C.Fn-09 works only in manual mode… in ttl it behaves the same.

  16. Author
    Flash Havoc 9 months ago

    UPDATE – There is a GODOX A1 Smart Phone Remote Transmitter coming soon – for Godox 2.4GHz X System strobes, with built in flash and LED light.

    • Mark 9 months ago

      Did I miss an announcement somewhere on that A1 Smart Phone Remote Transmitter? What is it?

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 9 months ago

        Hi Mark,

        No, the official release is apparently not until August 12th. I’m not sure if the A1 was intentionally leaked early or not. I think the GodoxPhoto app is available already.

        The A1 is a device which allows you to control the Godox 2.4GHz X system through a smartphone app.

        It also allows you to use the phone as camera though, with the X system slave strobes, or even the A1 as a slave strobe itself.

        I think shutter speeds will be pretty limited though using the phone as the camera.

  17. John Wilson 9 months ago

    I wonder how the camera communicates with it. Bluetooth I hope.

    I’m not very interested in this particular product but a trigger which is controllable via Bluetooth opens up very interesting possibilities. Especially if the control protocol is documented and published.

  18. Kyra 9 months ago

    hi there!
    for beginner in learning flash, how many and which flash are recommended?
    will be learning to use umbrella and soft boxes for product and portrait photography.

    doubt will venture beyond flash units though.

    currently have tt350.

    would two or three flashes the optimal setup?
    i’m thinking, most likely need the x1 for on camera trigger, off camera flashes.

    should i mix and match with tt600 and tt685 for the additional flashes for three flash setup and a little cost saving? or two 685?
    should i just sell the 350 and get 600 or 685 in its place instead?

    thank you so much!

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 9 months ago

      Hi Kyra,

      There are probably a dozen different ways to go with this so I’m not even sure what the most helpful answer would be at this stage.

      Regarding the TT600 and TT685, the difference is TTL capability, and main reasons TTL can be very helpful is if the subject is constantly moving (distance in relation to the lights), or if you have no time to set up exposure levels manually. Otherwise for product photography etc manual is generally better because the exposures will remain consistent from shot to shot.

      For product photography 3 or 4, or even more separate light sources can be helpful, and even with portraits etc as well. Though in the olden days (just a few years ago) when cheap strobes were pretty risky, the best advice was often to just start with one good strobe, and a reflector panel. A few lights will allow you to quickly experiment with more different set ups though.

      It sound like these may be out of your budget, though I would say the AD200 / EVOLV would currently be the best all round strobe to learn with, becasue they provide all the options, Fresnel head, bare bulb, HSS, TTL, enough power to be useful outdoors, and even a decent modelling light when teamed with the twin head bracket.

      So that is something I would still consider if you’re intending to stay in this longer term and build a nice system, though thats totally up to what you want to do and your budget etc. You can do a lot of good things with a few inexpensive manual TT600 as well.

      • Kyra 9 months ago

        Thank you so much!

        Sounds like the first step would be a couple of TT600 for the time being.
        Would the TT350 to small to use with diffuser/soft box?

        • John Wilson 9 months ago

          If you have two TT600 you can use your TT350 as the trigger/controller on the camera so you don’t have to buy an X1 trigger initially. Just set your TT350 not to fire and you’re good to go.

          Add a couple of lighting stands and Godox S-type Speedlite Brackets and you can use pretty much any sort of light modifier you like. Though I’d start with umbrellas I think (Google clamshell lighting too).

  19. Roohul 9 months ago

    I can’t seem to manually control power output of my SB-700 connected to a X1R-N using XT32. Am I doing something wrong, or this is an expected behaviour?

    Thanks for your time 🙂

  20. Jan 8 months ago

    Hi,
    can the x1 transmitter also be used/set as a receiver?

  21. mmmfotografie 8 months ago

    @Jan, then it would be called a transceiver so no it cannot receive and it only transmit.

  22. Nor Azelan 8 months ago

    can Godox X1T-S TTL use with pixel X800c flash

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 8 months ago

      Hi Nor Azelan,

      The Pixel and Godox radio systems are not directly compatible, so at best you would need to mount the X800c on top of a Godox X1R-C radio receiver.

      And then its likely there may be some compatibility issues both with mixing the Pixel flash and Godox radio receiver, though also with mixing the Sony version Godox transmitter with the Canon version Godox receiver.

      So in short you would be better off just getting a Godox TT685 or V860II speedlite (for Sony or Canon) for full compatibility with the X1T-S transmitter.

  23. Ian 8 months ago

    **AD200 TECH QUESTION:
    Anyone in here using their AD200 in conjunction with a Canon 600EX or Yongnuo 600EX in HSS? I have the Godox X1T-C and X1R-C, but the flashes will not activate HSS. Can anyone assist? What am I doing wrong?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 8 months ago

      Hi Ian,

      I’m not sure about the YongNuo flash, though the Canon 600EX-RT should definitely work.

      It is possible Godox may have added a bug in the firmware at some stage though. There is new firmware for the X1T-C again though so I’ll updated and give them a try again.

      • Ian 8 months ago

        I did update the firmware and HSS on the Canon and Yongnuo’s isn’t working

  24. Mark Kitaoka 7 months ago

    I recently had the opportunity to operate all of my Godox units including a speed light in one session. You can see that session here:
    http://www.markkitaoka.com/latest-news/using-the-godox-system/

  25. The Doc 7 months ago

    Looks like the new Godox XPro (aka XT2) has leaked. It looks fantastic: http://www.diyphotography.net/leaked-godox-xpro-trigger-photo-teases-huge-lcd-interface-lots-buttons/

  26. Quidn 7 months ago

    One of the re-branding sellers explains the XT16, XTR16(S) and the receiver of the FC16 are all compatible. But at least, the original FC16 is NOT compatible to the Godox ‘X’ system.

    I tried all channel combination with 2 sets of the FC16. The result is, the transmitter of FC16 cannot triggers the TT6xx or studio flash, and the receiver of FC16 cannot triggered by the XT32. lol

    I can’t understand why they aren’t making simple standalone version of the XTR16 for legacy or other manufacturer’s flash. In fact the X1R is cheap enough than other major brands’ receiver but not so cheap if someone has to buy them some pcs. For that purpose, there’s no need to more function than FC16.

    So, I’m ordering some pcs of X1R now. 🙁

  27. rizal 6 months ago

    hai,
    i wanna to ask something, i have godox x1t-n, and x1r-n
    the question is :
    can i use also godox fc 16 receiver to combine with x1t? coz it have a same 2.4ghz radio strobe,.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 months ago

      Hi Rizal,

      No the FTR-16 are 433MHz. You will need the XTR-16/s receivers to work with the 2.4GHz X1T transmitter and radio system.

  28. Jaime Llagas 6 months ago

    Hello,

    I want to use my canon 430 ex ii flash with my Nikon D750. Already bought X1t-N and V860 flash.
    Should i buy X1r-c receiver for my canon flash or X1r-n?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 months ago

      Hi Jaime,

      You will need the X1R-C receiver there for your Canon Speedlite.

      I’m not sure where they are up to with now with TTL and HSS working across camera platforms when it comes to the X1R receivers though. Remote manual power control should at least work though.

  29. Martin Jehnichen 6 months ago

    triggering Godox AD200 with a Canon ST-E3-RT ? I want to include a Godox AD200 or (AD360IIC) into my setup of 3 Canon 600EX-RT Flashes. Can I simply trigger the Godox Flashes with my Transmitter Canon ST-E3-RT or the Yongnuo YN-E3-RT ?
    Or do I need a X-1 transmitter? And if – will it trigger my Canon 600EX-RT flashes?

    • John Wilson 6 months ago

      Hi Martin!

      If you just want to trigger the flashes you can just use the optical slave function.

      However you probably want to also configure the flashes remotely and use HSS/TTL. In this case you need a Godox trigger on the camera. I think you could use an X1T-C with the ST-E3-RT stacked on top of it. I think you would find that pretty annoying to use in practice. It’s probably better to use an X1T-C (or the new XPro-C) on the camera and an X1R-C for each of you Canon flashes. Personally I think the best bet would be to sell the 600EX-RT flashes and buy TT685 or V860II flashes. You’d probably end up with cash left over (Three X1R-C cost almost exactly the same as one TT685) .

  30. Régis Corbet 6 months ago

    I have compatibility issues with Nikon SB-800 speedlight and Godox X1R-N/X1T-N mounted on Nikon D600. All Godox firmware has been updated, no problems Nikon SB-700 or Godox TT350o. Most intriguing is that all is working well with X1T-O mounted on my OM-D camera. Does anyone having the same difficulties?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 months ago

      Hi Régis,

      By compatibility issues do you mean the flash will only fire up to around 1/4 power? If so there appears to be a bug with the X1T/R-N, please see the recent discussion here.

      • Régis Corbet 5 months ago

        The flash fire, but not during the exposure time. All controls seems to work including modeling light, but the main triggering signal comes too early I think

  31. Rohaizad 5 months ago

    Hi,
    I have 2pc SK300 and i plan to buy this new SK400ii. I just wondering, what type of trigger and receiver should i sync with? I want remotely control light power, buzz, modeling light for all these 3 light.

    Thanks

  32. Stephen Rowley 3 months ago

    Hi there

    I have a nikon d700 with XT2 in hotshoe and a AD200 on a lightstand some distance away, my problem, sometimes I trigger the camera from a distance via tablet, if I am closer to the AD200 than the XT2 on the camera I would like to change the power setting on the Ad200 however everytime I trigger the camera the power setting reverts back to the last XT2 power setting on the hotshoe before firing, is there a way around this

  33. Paul 3 months ago

    Can the 2.4GHZ transmitters also trigger older 433mhz receivers such as the AT ands RT series? I wish to use my (upcoming) X-ProS to trigger a “dumb” Dynalite studio flash.
    Thanks.

  34. Greg 3 months ago

    Hello. I have a Panasonic camera and a Godox TT350O. I also have a Sony camera, without flash.
    I would like to use 2 flashs, one on the camera and the second on a stand.
    First I don’t know if I can use 2 TT350, one as master an the second as slave, without X1t transmitter.
    I wonder if it is possible to use the TT350O as master on my Panasonic camera, with a TT350S as slave on the stand. And of course the other possibility would be to use a TT350S as master on the Sony camera, with the TT350O as slave.
    Do you know if it is possible ? Thanks

  35. Chan 3 months ago

    After updated the latest firmware update (Jan 2018), my X1t-C/S doesn’t work with the older AD360 XTR-16 anymore. The new update includes the ID#, Godox doesn’t support the older non-TTL flashes anymore, and left the people dry with the wonderful strobe like AD360.
    The way to worked around was re-installed the previous version of the X1t-c/s, lucky I still have those files, and turned off the ID# of the other flashes such as AD360ii, V860II and AD600.
    I hope it will help the others having the similar issues.

    • John Wilson 3 months ago

      Hi Chan!

      Did the AD360 not work when the ID was set to OFF?

      As I understand it the TT600, V850 and the older flashes using XTR-16s should work when the trigger ID is set to OFF and not work if it’s set to a value. If your AD360 doesn’t work when ID is set to OFF then it’s a bug in the firmware which I would expect to be fixed ASAP.

  36. Archie 2 months ago

    Should I be able to get an X1f to trigger a Canon 550ex?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 months ago

      Hi Archie,

      You would need to attach an X1R receiver (preferably Canon X1R-C) to the flash to fire it via the X1T-F transmitter.

      I’m not sure with the age of the 550EX if there would be any remote power control though. TTL is very unlikely with an X1-F transmitter.

      Instead of spending money on an X1 receiver though, its generally money better spent on a slave flash (from $65) like the TT600 (remote manual only) or TT685. As they are fully compatible with radio receiver built in.

  37. Bruce Korb 2 months ago

    I am buying a new flash unit primarily to get focus assist in low light conditions. Seeing now that the TT600 has a single pin “universal” connection, will it work for me on camera with my Nikon D810?

    Also, I have an old YongNuo 465 that still works just fine and a set of Altura remotes. Will I be able to slide the Altura transmitter into the X1T-N and get both the TT600 and YongNuo to fire? I wouldn’t get HSS out of it, but I ought to be able to use the YongNuo as a manual mode second flash, yes?

    • John Wilson 2 months ago

      Hi Bruce!

      If you need focus assist the TT600 may not be your best choice. You have to manually switch on the AF assist light if it’s on camera (see http://flashhavoc.com/godox-tt600-speedlite-released/). If it’s used remotely the AF assist light blinks which can give the camera some help in focusing.

      If you need on camera AF assist you’d be better off with one of the Nikon specific TTL flashes.

      • Bruce Korb 2 months ago

        Unfortunately, reading as much as I could about this thing didn’t make it clear enough to understand. I’ll have to send it back once it arrives. I guess I need the TT685N, with the transmitter just cuz it makes it so convenient. Thank you, John, for the clarification.

        • John Wilson 2 months ago

          Thinking about it a bit more..

          Your X1T-N has an AF assist light which will (I think) work automatically. It’s worth giving it a try to see if it’s good enough for your purposes. I use Canon and Fuji and I’ve never switched on the AF assist function of my X1 and XPro triggers so I don’t know how good it is.

          If it is OK you can just mount the TT600 on the X1T-N and fire it directly (I.E. swich of all the groups on the X1T-N and use it as a pass through device) whilst using the trigger as an AF assist light only. If that works you can save a bit of cash.

  38. Bruce Korb 2 months ago

    The primary situation I’m in is a wedding that disallows flash and is too dim to easily focus. So just putting the trigger on the camera would do the job. I’ll have to see. At this point, I’ve now ordered both and I’ll have to select one to return. :-} I was on a Godox site describing all their speedlights and triggers, but I didn’t find it illuminating enough to understand that the trigger has an af assist. It now sounds like the TT600 kit is all I need. I’ll know for certain Friday when I can read the manuals. Thank you for your help!

    • John Wilson 2 months ago

      Now you’ve explained the situation you are in I can sharpen my advice a bit. Firstly a disclaimer I’m not a wedding photographer so this advice is based on second hand information.

      The TT685N can act as a trigger and controller for remote Godox lights. If you’re shooting weddings or events it’s useful to have one of these on the camera so that you can use it as a direct flash when needed and then, if you are in a situation where you are using remote lights (e.g. the wedding reception), you can use it as a trigger and controller. Setting the flash to OFF in the control menu means that the trigger function (and the AF assist light) still works.

      So in your scenario if you only had a TT685N you could switch the flash off in the control menu and just use it as a AF assist light (please check that it actually does function as an AF assist light in this mode. I don’t have one of these devices). You would not need an X1T-N or a TT600. You couldn’t use you old YongNuo 465 triggered wirelessly though. If you wanted a second small flash triggered remotely you could buy a TT600 or TT685N – I’d go for the TT685N as then you’d have a spare in case of accidents.

      Many photographers are using larger Godox flashes as remote strobes. That is to say the AD200, AD360 or AD600. Also many wedding photographers favour the V860 over the TT685 because they don’t have to worry about changing the AA cells mid way through a shoot. Your choice will depend on your budget and shooting style.

      Hope this helps

  39. Atreyu_bcn 2 months ago

    Hi,
    I am using godox transmiters and flashes and I wonder if its possible to trigger the camera remotely and still keep control over the remote flahes.
    You can trigger the camera remotely by putting one X1r on top of the camera with a cord and pressing the test button on the x1t it will trigger the camera, the problem is that although the rest of the remote flashes fire aswell they are out of sinc with the camera.

    Is there any work around or is simply not possible?

    Thanks in advance!

    • John Wilson 2 months ago

      You need two triggers and an X1R.

      You set the trigger in the hotshoe to the same channel as the lights. You plug the cord from the X1R into the camera. You set the channel of the second trigger and the X1R to a DIFFERENT channel to the one used by the lights.

      When you press the test button on the second trigger the camera will fire and the trigger on top of the camera will fire the lights.

      Do NOT put the X1R in the hotshoe in top of the X1T 🙂

  40. Lance 2 months ago

    Hello, I have two TT685c speedlights along with the X1Tc transmitter for my old Canon equipmemt. I recently sold the Canon DSLR and went to the Fuji XT2, will I need a new transmitter made for the Fuji camera and new speedlights or will this be compatible with the Fuji? Thanks.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 months ago

      Hi Lance,

      You will need transmitter for Fuji if you want TTL or HSS. You can use the Fuji transmitter with your existing TT685C (they may need a firmware update).

      Its a good opportunity to upgrade to the Xpro-F, its much nicer to use than the X1.

      • Lance 2 months ago

        Great! I will be getting one on order today 🙂 thanks!

  41. Greg 1 month ago

    Successfully mixing Godox and Yongnuo radios… a fun (and successful) experiment!

    For a couple of years now, I have been using my mixed bag of flashes together with 3 * YN622C + YN622C-TX. This has worked fine but recently I wanted to add a few more speedlights, which also triggered me to move over to Godox. Thinking that I could in fact see a brighter future over there… 🙂

    So a few days ago I got delivery of 2 * V860II + 2 * X1RC and one Xpro transmitter.

    Not sure what I should do with the Yongnuo units and actually having one X1R less than I had old flashes, I started thinking… could one mix the two systems somehow. Of course the radios are not compatible but the Canon protocol is used by both and communicated through the hotshoe, so… a bit of testing perhaps.

    Test 1: I put a flash on a YN622C and put them in the hotshoe of an X1R to see if the signals would get through.
    And [of course] it worked !
    I could control the flash from the Xpro and I had no problems shooting both TTL and Manual…

    Test 2: Put the flash on a YN622C to be used as receiver.
    Take another YN622C and put it on the hotshoe of the X1R to use as a go-between over to the YN system.
    This also worked fine but I could notice a slight delay in transferring settings over to the flash, like changing power or zoom.
    This also worked great in both TTL and Manual modes!

    Inspired by these tests I got curious to see what would happen if I put the 622-TX on the X1R instead…

    The setup here was:
    Xpro on Camera (a 70D btw)
    YN622C-TX on top of an X1RC
    2 Flashes; Flash on YN622 (gr A in YN system) + Flash on YN622 (gr B)

    I did not do any extensive testing and shooting tons of photos but here’s what happened:

    There is no mixing of modes between the groups on the 622c, naturally. So setting the selected X1R group on the Xpro to TTL, forced all groups on YN622C-TX display over to TTL. And changing to manual mode on Xpro put all the groups on YN622 to Manual.
    Important finding 1; Group A on YN system was now directly controllable from the Xpro.
    Important finding 2; When in manual mode, I could use the 622-TX interface to individually change the settings of groups B, C etc including zoom.

    I made a couple of test photos in manual as well as TTL mode and it worked perfectly fine. I even tried a few HSS shots at 1/800 which also worked!!

    The responsiveness of the 622 when used like this was really poor and I had to wait for each change to happen. Sometimes even pressing twice or holding the button down for the command to “take” but being visible on the display meant you knew what happened at least.

    Sooo, it appears that one can actually eat the cake and have it. For whatever it’s worth, mixing Godox and Yongnuo works… 🙂

  42. Jay Chan 1 month ago

    Can I ask why was the xt32 released later than x1t but it does not have TTL, what is the need for a later release non-TTL version? Also can xpro work with ad360 original version using xtr16? Thank you.

  43. Alex 3 weeks ago

    Does an X1R receiver for Fuji exist? Or can I use the X1R-C?

    I want to buy the XPRO transmitter to mount on my X-T1 and use an X1R on each of my various speedlites (Godox V860C, Yongnuo YN560-II…). So does the receiver need to be brand-specific?
    Thanks.

    • John Wilson 3 weeks ago

      If your V860C is a MK I than you need an XTR16s rather than a X1R if it’s a MK II you don’t need anything for it to work with an Xpro-F.

      X1Rs are brand specific and are available for Canon, Nikon and Sony flashes. Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji and M43 triggers will work with any X1T. I.E. the X1R has to match the brand of flashgun but can be controlled by any X1T or Xpro.

      Personally, I’d avoid using an X1R If at all possible. You’re just adding complexity to the system. For not much more than the cost of an X1R you could ditch your Yongnuo YN560-II and by a TT600 or pay a bit more and get a V850II to match the recycle time and battery life of your V860C.

  44. COLIN Rennie 2 weeks ago

    I recently bought two V860llF flashes and an X1 flash trigger for my Fuji XT2 camera and I am mighty impressed!.
    I own Nikon D4s with Nikon flashes speed light sp910 which I use for press work.
    I tried putting the Godox XI on my Nikon camera and it triggered the two Godox V8600F no problem. Can I use these flashes and trigger on my Nikon? I thought you had to buy certain flashes which tied up with the relevant makes?
    Ps the Godox seems much better than the more expensive Nikon flashes

    • John Wilson 2 weeks ago

      Hi Colin!

      Any Godox flash will work with any Godox trigger. You need an X1-N (or Xpro-N) for the V860llF to support HSS and TTL on your Nikon. If you want to use a flash on your Nikon hot shoe you will need to buy a Nikon specific flash (but that will work with your X1-F when used off camera)

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