GODOX & FLASHPOINT – 2.4GHz Flash System Overview

 

With the release of their 2.4GHz enabled strobes, Godox and Flashpoint have been putting together one of the most comprehensive and now popular radio flash systems currently available.

What’s attractive about the Godox ecosystem is not only the large range of well priced and innovative lights on offer, but also the complete compatibility throughout the system, from the cheapest remote manual speedlites, to the larger cordless TTL, and AC powered studio strobes.

With impressive releases like the AD600 PRO / XPLOR PRO, and AD200 / EVOLV 200, Godox are now leading the way in many respects, for others to follow.

Another major feature is the cross platform support for multiple camera systems. All of the speedlites and strobes in the Godox 2.4GHz system now provide auto sensing radio receiver modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax.

This means photographers using different camera brands can effectively share the same set of remote strobes at the same time. And this includes full TTL and HSS functionality where available.

 

 

So Godox have been developing a very versatile, practical, and affordable, radio flash system, now attracting a large user base worldwide.

Its not all perfect though, and still a work in progress in areas. With a system of this scale already having so many components, there are a number of (generally minor) quirks and details needing refinement over time, through firmware updates etc.

And although having the innovative advantage of built-in Lithium-ion batteries, the current Godox master speedlites have been a weak point in the system for wedding photographers, who would often like to see an on-camera master speedlite with refined features more closely matching the performance of the original Canon and Nikon speedlites.

Off camera TTL performance with strobes like game changing AD600 PRO / XPLOR PRO, and original AD600 / XPLOR have mostly been solid and consistent since their first release.

And the previous remote manual speedlites and bare bulb flashes have proven themselves to be solid workhorses over a number of years now. The Godox radio system has also shown to be generally reliable with good range.

NOTE – The Godox 2.4GHz radio system is not directly compatible with Canon or Nikon’s radio systems.

 

GODOX 2.4GHz FLASH SYSTEM OVERVIEW

 

Godox now provide a broad range of strobes with 2.4GHz radio built inside. This provides numerous transmitter, master, and receiver flash options.

All of the 2.4GHz hotshoe flashes function as both radio master and receiver units in the Godox system –

 

GODOX FLASH SYSTEM

 

And with the addition of clip on XTR-16/s radio receivers, a number of the previously popular legacy remote manual strobes can be combined as receiver flash units in the 2.4GHz flash system (using the transmitter and master flash units shown above).

These include the –

 

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

NOTE – When looking at AC powered studio lights, at this stage its usually best to go with Mark II Godox lights which have the 2.4GHz radio receiver built inside, because the older AC lights often use different power scales which are no longer supported by current transmitters like the Xpro.

 

And your original Canon, Nikon, and Sony, TTL Speedlites, and non-Godox studio lights can also be combined in the system by attaching those to Godox X1R receiver units (as discussed further below).

 

 

ADORAMA FLASHPOINT R2 SYSTEM

 

In the USA Adorama also sell the Godox System under their Flashpoint branding, providing great support and helping to develop and refine the system.

The Flashpoint equipment is fully compatible with the original Godox branded gear, and Flashpoint provide up to 3 year full USA warranty.

And Adorama now also sell Godox branded products not listed under the Flashpoint branding.

 

 

Flashpoint have their own naming structure as tabled below –

 

FLASHPOINT R2 SYSTEM

 

Godox Xpro = Flashpoint R2 Pro Transmitter – Canon – Nikon – SonyM4/3Fuji – Pentax

Godox X1T = Flashpoint R2 TTL Transmitter – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji
Godox X1R = Flashpoint R2 TTL Receiver – Canon – Nikon – Sony

Godox XT32 = Flashpoint R2T 32 Transmitter – Canon – Nikon

Godox A1 = Flashpoint M1 PRO

 

Godox TT350 = Flashpoint Zoom Mini R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji
Godox V350 = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on Mini R2 TTLCanonNikon – SonyM4/3Fuji

Godox TT600 = Flashpoint Zoom R2 Manual
Godox V850II = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 Manual

Godox TT685 = Flashpoint Zoom R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji
Godox V860II = Flashpoint Zoom Li-on R2 TTL – Canon – Nikon – Sony – M4/3 – Fuji

Godox AD360II = Flashpoint Streaklight 360 R2 TTL – CanonNikon

Godox AD200  = Flashpoint EVOLV 200 R2 TTL
Godox AD-B2 = Flashpoint EVOLV Twin Head

 

Godox AD600BM = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 HSS
Godox AD600B = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 TTL HSS
Godox AD-H600B = Flashpoint Extension Head 600Ws
Godox AD-H1200B = Flashpoint Extension Head 1200Ws

Godox AD400 PRO = Flashpoint XPLOR 400 PRO TTL

Godox AD600 PRO = Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO TTL
Godox AD-H600 PRO = Flashpoint XP600 PRO Extension Head

 

Godox SK300II = Flashpoint Studio 300
Godox SK400II = Flashpoint Studio 400

Godox QT400IIM = Flashpoint Rapid 400 HSS
Godox QT600IIM = Flashpoint Rapid 600 HSS
Godox QT1200IIM = Flashpoint Rapid 1200 HSS

 

Godox XTR-16 = Flashpoint R2 Bridge SL
Godox XTR-16s = Flashpoint R2 Bridge ZL

Godox AD360 = Flashpoint Streaklight 360
Godox AR400 = Flashpoint Ring Li-on

 

Godox PB960 = Flashpoint Blast Power Pack PB-960
Godox LP800x = Flashpoint Power Station PS-800

Godox S-Type Bracket – Glow S-Type Bracket

 

Adorama also now sell – Godox branded products

Flashpoint products are also available – on Amazon

 

 

TRANSMITTERS

 

The Godox Xpro are the latest, and main transmitter option now in the Godox 2.4GHz system. Providing a vastly improvement user interface, and generally increased functionality over the previous X1T transmitter.

Available in Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3Fuji, and Pentax versions, the Xpro display 5 groups at a time, or zooms to display the current group larger and in more detail.

The provided TCM function is a significant feature, allowing quick initial TTL exposures to be converted to manual power settings for further refinement and consistency.

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

The transmitter units available for the Godox 2.4GHz radio flash system –

  • XPro – TTL / HSS / Remote Manual
  • X1T – TTL / HSS / Remote Manual
  • XT32 – HSS / Remote Manual
  • XT16 – Remote Manual

GODOX FLASH SYSTEMThe XPro, XT32, and XT16, transmitters also provide control for 16 Groups in Manual mode, where the X1T currently provide up to 5 Groups at most.

The XT32 and XT16 providing alternate power scales compatible with older mark one Godox studio lights.

 

MASTER FLASHES

 

Currently all of the Godox hotshoe flashes with 2.4GHz X radio system built-in, also provide both radio master and receiver modes.

So they can all act as a master / transmitter unit on-camera to the rest of the 2.4GHz flash system.

 

There are some differences between the Canon, Nikon, and Sony master units functionality, due to the way their various native TTL systems operate.

For example the Nikon master interface only provides for 3 TTL or remote manual groups, so Godox have allowed 2 more groups to at least be used in remote manual.

The Canon master interface provides a GR Group style interface with 5 TTL or remote manual groups, though pre 2012 cameras can still only access 3 groups.

The Sony master interface currently only provides the 3 TTL or remote manual receiver groups. (Which should really be expanded with 2 more remote manual groups).

 

RECEIVERS

 

The X1R receivers were originally released alongside the X1T transmitter, as TTL and HSS enabled transmitter and receiver set.

Though the X1R are also currently the only receivers available in the Godox 2.4GHz system for firing non-Godox studio lights, or manual speedlites etc.

Studio lights can be fired with X1R receivers when attached via a sync cord. No remote control is available then, except that receiver groups can be turned On and Off remotely from the transmitter.

Currently there are only Canon, Nikon, and Sony X1R receiver versions available. Though any of the Godox 2.4GHz transmitters or master flashes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax, will fire any X1R receiver version.

So at this stage M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax users can select any of the Canon Nikon or Sony X1R receivers to fire their additional non-Godox studio lights.

 

 

For Speedlight use the X1R receivers will provide full TTL and HSS when using corresponding and compatible, Canon, Nikon, and Sony, speedlites mounted on the receivers hotshoe.

In this case cross platform support is generally limited at this stage, usually to firing the flash, and possibly remote manual power control.

Also the X1R receivers have tended to be a lower priority in the system, and even when using corresponding brand genuine speedlites there have been numerous quirks which come and go with firmware changes in the system.

So it can be preferable to actually consider inexpensive Godox speedlites rather than purchasing X1R receivers for your current speedlites (particularly if they are third party). As Godox speedlites like the TT685 do not cost that much more than the X1R receivers, and work seamlessly in the system, even across brands.

 

The only other receivers currently available in the Godox system are the FTR-16/s and XTR-16/s. Which only work with Godox flashes providing the dedicated communication ports to attach them (as discussed in more detail further below).

 

CROSS PLATFORM COMPATIBILITY

 

A major feature of the Godox system is now the cross platform support for multiple camera systems.

All of the speedlites and strobes in the Godox 2.4GHz system now provide auto sensing / switching radio receiver modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax.

This means photographers using different camera brands can effectively share the same set of remote strobes at the same time. And this includes full TTL and HSS functionality where available.

 

 

All of the Godox TTL speedlites / hotshoe flashes now provide the same auto sensing TTL radio slave modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony, M4/3, Fuji, and Pentax.

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

SYSTEM SCALABILITY

 

Particularity for people getting started in off camera lighting, the scalability of Godox system offers a very practical option to start out with.

This is because the Godox remote manual flashes are compatible (in remote manual, and HSS use) with Godox’s more advanced TTL gear, as well as their broad range of larger TTL and manual strobes.

This means you can start with some inexpensive remote manual speedlites like the Godox TT600, (which are basically Godox’s alternative to the popular YongNuo YN560 IV), and easily expand your kit with numerous other compatible Godox flash options later.

With YongNuo the remote manual and TTL systems have limited intercompatibility. And a lot of people get caught out with that after a short time when trying to expand their kit to experiment with HSS or TTL.

With a HSS enabled Godox transmitter like the Xpro, the TT600 speedlites (and most other Godox remote manual strobes) already include a HSS mode. Where HSS is only available with the TTL gear in the YongNuo system.

Note – Remote flash head zoom is not currently provided with the manual TT600 or V850II speedlites, where YongNuo’s YN560 systems does allow this.

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

PREVIOUS 433MHz RADIO SYSTEM

 

A quick history for people unfamiliar with the original Godox system. Not so many years ago Godox released their first 433MHz frequency, FT-16 remote manual radio system. To be used with their various original remote manual strobes (mentioned further above).

Godox knew this system would need to evolve quite a lot in a relatively short time. And fortunately for many previous customers, Godox designed the radio receivers as small external clip on units, which could then be easily upgraded to a new radio system later on.

So Godox now provide 2.4GHz XT16 versions of the original 433MHz FT-16 transmitter and receivers.

And these XTR16 and XTR16s receivers link the legacy remote manual flashes to the new Godox 2.4GHz X radio flash system as detailed above.

(The original 433MHz FT-16 transmitter and receivers are still available, though you can imagine they will probably be phased out eventually as demand reduces).

 

GODOX SYSTEM

 

As well as remote manual power control, a number of the legacy Godox strobes like the popular AD360 also provide a HSS mode.

The FT-16 transmitter being a universal single firing pin unit though, cannot communicate with the camera to provide the early fire signal needed for HSS to function.

So with the 433MHz radio system a second Cells II transmitter was also needed to be mounted on the camera, while the FT-16 transmitter could be held in hand just for remote power control with the strobes.

With the current 2.4GHz system, the Xpro, X1T, and XT32 transmitters, basically combine the XT-16 and Cells II into one more convenient transmitter unit. So the Cells II, FT-16, and XT-16 transmitters have become mostly redundant now.

Though the FT-16 transmitter can still be useful with some cameras that otherwise have issues with non single firing pin transmitters.

GODOX_SYSTEM_16a500

 

 

This post is PART 1 of the Godox and Flashpoint 2.4GHz radio flash system overview.

Continue to PART 2 – Godox and Flashpoint Radio Flash Models.

 

PART 1 –  GODOX & FLASHPOINT 2.4GHz SYSTEM OVERVIEW
PART 2 – GODOX & FLASHPOINT FLASH MODELS
PART 3 – GODOX & FLASHPOINT RADIO TRIGGER MODELS

 

Godox – Website

Godox – Firmware Updates

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444 Comments
  1. Mike Catuara 2 years ago

    I see so you are saying that Good will provide a firmware update for these flashes in early 2017, right? Can’t wait.

  2. Chris 2 years ago

    I see you spec the TT685/V860II for Nikon as having 5 groups with 2 manual. This is true for the X1 transmitter, but not the V860II (I do not have a TT685), but would assume they use the same interface with the only difference being the lithium battery. I believe I have the latest firmware, but only have 3 groups plus master.

  3. Adam Chandler 2 years ago

    I recently bought a pair of the V860II and like them except I can’t manually control the zoom setting unless I attach my Yongnuo triggers (which kind of defeats the purpose of switching to all-in-one units). Am I missing something or do you know if there may be a firmware update for this?

    • Chris 2 years ago

      Adam, that is correct. Godox does not currently offer the ability to remote zoom the flash units. I do not know if they are planning on that or not.

    • Clement Lau 2 years ago

      You can control the zoom setting when you are using X1T with C.fn.
      You can check the latest user Manual.

  4. Mono 2 years ago

    Any more news on the AD200 … ?
    Also … has anyone used an XT32 with a Fuji X100S camera? With mine the XT foot is too long for the pin to align correctly and wont trigger any flashes – but an FT16 is fine

    • Craig 2 years ago

      Tested Godox XT32C and XT-16 on Fuji X100T and X-T1.
      Both triggers worked on X-T1.
      Only XT-16 worked on X100T.
      Strange considering the center pin is in the exact same spot on both triggers and the foot of the XT32C sticks out the same amount on both cameras.

  5. Nic 2 years ago

    I just got the Godox X1C kit. My 580 exii won’t fire with it. The test button does activate the flash and turning the wheel changes the settings on the flash. I’ve updated the firmware to the most current version. Any help would be appreciated!

    • Trevor Awalt 2 years ago

      Nic, I have purchased the StrobePro rebranded units in Canada. I use their XTC (transmitter) and XRC (receiver) for my 5DMKII/7D and the 580EXII and it works great. Did you purchase the Godox X1T and the X1R, if not your missing the X1R.

  6. Author
    Flash Havoc 2 years ago

    UPDATE – Godox have uploaded new V1.4 firmware for the V860II-C, V860II-N, and V860II-S, which appear to add the alternate Canon, Nikon, and Sony radio slave modes to each flash.

    http://www.godox.com/EN/Download.html

    • david 2 years ago

      This was just what i was after, as i use both canon & sony cameras, so i was so excited to down load the new firmware & try it out, every thing looked good until i tried to change settings, & found i was getting inconsistent results. So after reading your post i decided to do some tests & found … the hot shoe on my camera was loose, & that the auto switching on the v860’s dose work 🙂

  7. uffneked 2 years ago

    Can I trigger the XTR16 with an X1C? Of course manual mode is OK.
    The plan is to have a TT685, a DE300, an X1C and an XTR16.
    I could trigger the TT685 with the X1C in TTL, but if I need to use the DE300, I could trigger both the TT685 and the DE300 (connected with an XTR16) in manual mode.
    Is this correct?

  8. Nishant 2 years ago

    It would be interesting to see how the AD200 fits into the scheme of things here. I would have wished a Speedlite for factor strobe with modelling light. But, I have a feeling AD200 might not have it. Still, it seems very interesting to have a dedicated off-camera flash in this ecosystem. Way to go, Godox!

  9. Matt 2 years ago

    I am very interested in this wireless flash system, and the AD360 for canon. Everything I read refers to Sony, Canon, Nikon.
    What I want to know is how can I use this with my view camera?

    Thanks

  10. Nick Fletcher 2 years ago

    I am interested to know the best workaround for getting supersync / hypbersync on the AD600 TTL and AD360ii. I’m currently using the XT1-N trigger and don’t want to have to buy a full set of pocketwizard triggers. I understand you can use a supersync / hypersync enabled trigger and then piggy back the XT1 ontop. Is that correct and which is the best trigger to use for this (ideally I’d like the timing adjustment to the hypersync that Phottix and Pocketwizard give you). Any thoughts

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Nick,

      The X1T transmitters have their own timing adjustment, as do the XT32 (only available for Canon so far).

      So all you need is an X1R receiver attached to the AD600 via PC sync cord.

      For the AD360II you could use an XTR-16 clip on receiver (or an X1R receiver attached via PC sync cord).

  11. Alex 2 years ago

    So if i understood correctly the TT600 Manual version works also with the X1T-S Sony trigger ?

    I’m looking to combine multiple speedlights on a flash bracket but it looks that most brackets are made for universal hot shoe strobes and not for Multi interface shoe flashes. so the only difference between the tt600 and the tt600s is the shoe. ( for hss) on camera use ? I know the sony camera’s with mi interface can fire virtually any flash in manual mode, but HSS i’m not so sure about. So is on camera HSS the only reason for godox making the tt600S ?.

  12. Ram 2 years ago

    How to use the hot shoe on X1/R2 transmitter? I am a bit frustrated trying to understand and make use of the hot shoe. All help is highly appreciated.

  13. Sal 2 years ago

    Hello, is it only me who sometimes has the following problem:

    Scenario:

    1.) I have everything set up with the several flashes in several groups (maybe even using all 3 (TTL) or 5 groups).

    2.) Then I want to throw in just e.g. another V860II as a little effect light.
    I would like to quickly set it to manual 1/32 (and change to 1/16 or 1/64 e.g. if to dim/hot).

    But this doesn’t work. 🙁 If I want to include it into the wireless system, I have to set it to slave and give it a group. Then it’s power is controlled by the commander.

    Wouldn’t this just an easy firmware thing: Set a channel and manual mode, but WITHOUT a group??

    What do you think?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Sal,

      YongNuo have a mixed mode setting for the YN-622 to allow for this. I hadn’t even really come across this mentioned with the Godox system before.

      If the transmitter was much easier to set the power level for each group I don’t know how much this would be needed.

      It would be a firmware update to all the slave units though, not really the transmitter.

      • Sal 2 years ago

        >If the transmitter was much easier to set the power level
        >for each group I don’t know how much this would be needed.

        Because all groups may be set/used/optimized already! (Key, Fill, Hair, Backlight, Floor e.g.)

        And then just a little speedlite in manual mode as effect light laying in a lamp e.g…. It wold be so easy: Just turn it on, set it e.g. to 1/16, andjust once and you are ready.

        OR:
        Let’s assume you have two flashlites in one group.
        Temporarily you want to set one quickly to Manual 1/64. Now this is only possible to give it a dedicated (free!) group and adjust power on transmitter. But if you want to go back to old scenario you have to do this again. Would be much easier, if at the flashlite you could just go e.g. from GROUP A -> NO GROUP (but still firing in manual mode if on the correct channel).

        I wished I had this simple featuer so many times now… 🙁

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 2 years ago

          Yes I see your point. We did want something of a basic fire mode to stop the strobe going into HSS mode automatically as well (though that could simply be a function which allows you to turn HSS off completely on the strobe).

          I thought the XTR-16/s may be a solution, but setting those to a group not available on the transmitter still has the flash updating to the power level of the last group adjusted on the transmitter. So that was no help.

          Your only solution at the moment would be to use the XTR-16/s receiver, and the XT-32 or XT-16 transmitters which provide 16 groups.

          Or you can stack 2 or more X1 transmitters on top of each other to provide 10+ groups. Just set the second transmitter and second set of slave flashes to a different channel. 🙂 No external receivers required then.

          If Godox agree to add a mixed mode like function, as mentioned previously it would have to be added to every flash model individually through firmware updates.

  14. Jacques URBAIN 2 years ago

    Hello,

    Would be nice to have more flashes of Godox make compatible with Fujifilm X cameras.

    I think about the new AD200 and my Fujifilm X-Pro2 and Nikon D4s cameras. If not compatible with both camerasI I will wait for the competitors doing it because the AD200 is an excellent formula and I am sure the competitors will follow this very good formula.

    Have a nice day.

    J.U.

  15. Ray 2 years ago

    Hi, does the AD200 also have an AC adapter to work directly on mains? Similar to the new AC adapter for the AD600.

    • mmmfotografie 2 years ago

      Highly unlikely because of the formfactor of the AD200.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Ray,

      There is no AC adapter currently available, and I haven’t heard of any plans to produce one.

      With 500 shots from one battery I don’t think there would be much demand for an AC adapter.

      An continuous LED modelling light could suck a lot of power, though it sounds like Godox will build the LED into an S-type bracket with its own battery.

  16. Adam Chandler 2 years ago

    It’s a nice system other than the terribly-inconsistent exposure when using TTL (at least with the V860iis). If a firmware update doesn’t happen soon I’ll be unloading my Godox gear.

    • Jacques Cornell 2 years ago

      I get inconsistent exposure with my Panasonic TTL flashes on Panasonic bodies. Colleagues report the same with Canon and Nikon. I suspect TTL is just a lousy technology. I got much better results from my various Metz flashes’ “auto” mode.

  17. Daniel 2 years ago

    Great write up. Just this week I sold all of my old lighting gear and went with a totally Flashpoint system (Rapid600, Xplor 600, AD600, and speedlight) I was very apprehensive about the build quality and performance. So far, I have been very pleased. Incredible value for the money.

  18. Jim W 2 years ago

    Really great update to the Overview!

    Long time user of the manual AD360, AD180 and V850’s and just love these lights. Just recently got the 2.4 GHz receivers and the X-1, but find it a a bit confusing at times and have been patiently waiting for the XT-32N to come out. Any updates on the N version availability?

    Also am interested in the AD200 and will pick one of these up, but am waiting to hear more about the M4/3 and Olympus compatibility. Want to pair this with a V850 for a great 2 flash light weight travel kit. Any indication that the current AD200’s, that work with Canon, Nikon and Sony, will work with the M4/3 bodies via the way of a firmware upgrade to the AD200? So just a Oly/Panasonic transmitter would be needed hopefully.

  19. Markz 2 years ago

    Any idea when the micro four thirds versions of the transmitters will be available?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Markz,

      I think the transmitters will be later in the year, though the TT350 master flash should be coming in the next few months.

  20. Nismode 2 years ago

    1.5 second recycle time for V860II? Just got a new set of VB-18 lithium batteries, and the recycle is more like 2.5 seconds…

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Nismode,

      Thanks, I just checked this and I’m getting 1.9 – 2.0 seconds with the V860II.

      The original V860 is faster at 1.5 – 1.6 seconds.

      So the V860II has slowed a little, though 2.5 seconds sounds a bit excessive.

  21. Mark 2 years ago

    Wow, what a synopsis! Thanks ever so much for putting this all together into one post! Loving what Godox has been dong over the last couple of years.

  22. Campo 2 years ago

    I had hoped to trigger my Nikon SB-800 remotely using the X1n. Although this sort of works, it is not very useful. With the SB-800 (set to TTL) mounted on an X1RN, I’m getting a correct exposure. There is no way to dial in FEC from the X1TN however. Setting the group to Manual on the X1TN has no effect at all, i.e., the SB-800 always gives a full TTL exposure. Setting the SB-800 to Manual causes the flash to fire at the wrong moment (during pre-flash apparently). This was tested with the latest X1n firmware (X1RN v16 and X1TN v19). Hope this helps someone.

    • Degeost 2 years ago

      Degeost
      About a year ago, I bought a pair of AD360iiN units, a X1T-N transmitter and several X1R-N units to use with my SB910, SB700 and SB600 flashes. The AD360iiN units work very well, but I got inconsistent results with the Nikon flashes on the X1R-N receivers. I found that if I wiggled the flash around on the X1R-N a bit and turned things of and on a few times, I could get things to work, until I move the flash unit. Eventually, I tried putting a TTL cable between the flash unit and the X1R-N unit, and things worked immediately and consistently. The TTL cable I used is a Pixel FC-312, which is tightly coiled and about 12 inches long. I got a similar TTL cable for each of my X1R-N units and am very happy with how the X1R-N units work now. I think that the lock wheel on TTL cable end attached to the X1R-N gives a much more solid connection. Well, it works with my SB600, which is a close as I can get to your SB800.

      B Degeost

      • Campo 2 years ago

        Thanks for the tip Degeost. I have noticed the wiggling too, however, even after making sure the flash is firmly seated and the display on the flash confirms proper communication, it still works in TTL mode only. I have seen a small number of reports from other users reporting the SB-800 does not work even though the SB-600 does. I’ve meanwhile returned the X1R-N figuring most of the time when I’ll be using the SB-800 of-camera I’ll be using manual mode anyway.

  23. Andy 2 years ago

    XT32nikon

    I’ve seen these on sale on eBay. Anyone had success with a Nikon version yet?

  24. Kathy 2 years ago

    Thank you so much for all the work that went into this update! As a tech writer, I can really appreciate this. However, having been a tech writer, I can’t help mentioning two very minor small edits.

    1). The XT16 section’s “overview” link isn’t actually linked to the XT16 overview. 🙂

    2). If the older studio strobes that work with the X1 system are those that can use an FTR-16 receiver, then Godox’s FT-16/FT-16s user manual lists those as the: “Quicker, Quicker D, QT, QS, Gemini GT, Gemini GS, DE, and DP series studio flashes.”

    This isn’t quite the same list that the Godox website has for all its current studio strobes, under your “numerous” link. But I can appreciate why you wouldn’t want to spelunk through all the specs of all of them to find out. 🙂

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Kathy,

      Thanks for that, I fixed the XT16 link, and added a small note to the studio strobes.

      I’m not really sure how many of the older AC strobes which use the USB receiver system are even completely compatible with the XT16 receiver. I think a few people have mentioned quirks generally depending on what power scale the strobes use.

      I would assume Godox will slowly transfer the strobes which are still relevant to the built-in 2.4GHz system, and slowly phase the old ones out.

  25. Andy 2 years ago

    I have X1T-C and AD600B TTL

    Can I purchase another X1T-C or XT32 and use both triggers on two camera to control AD600B? I only shoot manual. What I mean is I have two shooters and we would like to use both cameras to trigger AD600B alternatively.

    thanks.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Andy,

      Yes you can have two shooters with X1T-C, XT32, or a combination of both transmitters.

      The only thing is the last persons power level setting will remain on the strobes unless you press the test fire button on your transmitter, or make changes to the power level on your transmitter.

      In TTL mode the strobe automatically reacts to the current transmitter / camera as its being fired.

  26. andy 2 years ago

    Is it worth buying the xt32 Nikon or should we wait until the new Godox trigger comes out?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Andy,

      I’m not exactly sure how this will play out yet, though I think they are aiming for around 4th quarter availability for the X2 transmitter. They are trying to push it along now, though its still got some way to go at this stage.

  27. Tards57 2 years ago

    Great write up, incredibly comprehensive.
    I went down the Yongnuo path a number of years back with my Nikon gear.
    Great flashes but waited and waited for a OC TTL master that would allow me to control othe TTL and/or manual speedlites. It never came.
    Have now sold all of my Yongnuo gear, (3 x 568’s, 4 x 560III’s, 622TX and 560TX) all gone.
    Purchased 3 x TT685N’s and love them. Agreed that there are some quirks that probably need sorting out but it’s so nice being able to put a Flash or Trigger on camera and use the flash in TTL and any combination of TTL or Manual with the other two OCF’s.
    Am looking at either the TT600’s or the 360II’s to add to the system later on.
    Godox have an excellent scalable system that allows photogs to mix and match the lighting very easily compared to the old flash, receiver and camera, trigger setup of the past which took forever to setup or change.
    the Godox system is one item on or off camera and your shooting immediately with full control.

  28. Dino 2 years ago

    Is there an adapter that converts usb to 3.5mm so i can use xtr16 as a receiver on other monolights? Why usb only?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Dino,

      The XTR16 receivers are designed specifically for the flash, and also powered by the flash. So a converter alone is not going to work unfortunately.

      Godox should make a basic receiver unit for the system, though at this stage you can use an X1 receiver attached to the strobe via sync cord. I would assume that’s why they haven’t seen making a new basic receiver as a priority at this stage.

      • Dino 2 years ago

        Tnx. I know about x1 receiver but it is expensive for what I need – a basic manual trigger that works with x1t. Nevermind i put yongnuo 603 Ii on top of x1t and use other 603 receivers for other monolights

  29. Gbenga Sogbetun 2 years ago

    Hi all and Flashhavoc,
    I have a question that might already have been asked but all the same…. I want to buy the Orlit 610 and the AD200 (for portability and second light instead of 2 Orlits). Will I be able to fire and control both lights by placing the triggers on each other on my camera whenever I need to use both lights together?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Gbenga,

      Unless you need the Canon RT with the Orlit, your best option would be to go with the XPLOR 600 and eVOLV / AD200, because they work seamlessly together with full function from the same transmitter unit.

      You could possibly stack the various Godox transmitters and the TR-611 transmitter, though at best you would only get remote power control and HSS, not TTL with both lights.

      And personally I think the Canon ST-E3-RT are a much better transmitter than the TR-611, and the ST-E3-RT are not going to operate at all stacked on top of a Godox X1 transmitter.

      Jinbei are going to make a compact cordless flash for their system as well, though I don’t really know what exactly that’s going to be like or when it may actually be available. The Mars-3 / Flashpoint ROVER (Profoto B2 style flash) will be available next.

  30. Simon Hogg 2 years ago

    Has anyone bought more than one AD600BM and has any experience of the H1200B? I’ve just bought my second AD600BM and after running some tests, have found some strange results.
    I bought my first AD600BM a year ago and, other than performing a few tests with it, haven’t used it since. This is nothing to do with whether or not I liked it, it’s just that I’ve not been in a situation where I’ve needed it. So it’s essentially brand new and been sitting in its packaging for a year. Knowing I was going to need more power, I bought a second AD600BM along with the H1200B remote head and the 1200W bulb.
    I set the heads up in the same spot and measured the light at about 8ft away using a Sekonic light meter. I also put the H1200B in the same position and it was powered by the 2 previously mentioned AD600BMs. Here are the results. All results were taken with the flash or flashes set to full power.
    AD600BM (bought in 2017): f16
    AD600BM (bought in 2016): f14
    H1200(bought in 2017): f13

    So there is a 3rd of a stop difference in power capability between my two AD600BMs, and the H1200B is less powerful that a single AD600BM. I’ve only had the H1200B a couple of days and am now wondering whether or not it actually does what it’s advertised to do and if I should send it all back. £250 for the H1200 and bulb is a lot of money, and I can’t see why I would now ever choose to use it.
    Has anyone else come across any of these issues?

    • mmmfotografie 2 years ago

      Did you try exchanging the bulbs of the two 600 flashes to if it is the bulb or the flashes.

      To the 1200, it should be much higher and maybe switch from measuring flash to ambient measuring on the Sekonic. In a way you give lightmeter the change to see the two flashes and combine them.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Simon,

      Godox did improve the AD600 flash bulb to provide around 0.2 stops more light. So as mmmfotografie mentions above, you might want to try swapping the bulbs over to confirm if that’s what is making the difference.

      I’m not sure why you’re getting such a low result with the AD-H1200B, though mmmfotografie may have an explanation there. I would try taking a picture (at a reasonably long shutter speed) and compare that with the single head to see if the meter results are working.

      I get 0.5 stops more light with the AD-H1200B, than a single AD600B with not remote head, and the later flash bulb. (0.7 – 0.8 stops more compared to the early 600 flash bulb).

      • Simon Hogg 2 years ago

        Thanks for the reply.

        I did notice that the 2017 bulb was slightly different inside to the 2016, and I did try both bulbs in both the 2016 unit and the 2017. I got the same results. The 2017 flash head (not the bulb), produced 1/3 stop more light that the 2016, regardless of the bulb that was plugged into it.

        I’m not sure I understand the ambient light test that’s being suggested. Surely as I’m measuring the flash from the single 1200W bulb there would only be one flash to measure? Are you suggesting the light meter isn’t registering the 1200W bulbs peak output and that it might have a longer flash duration? I had the meter set to 1/200 of a sec so not sure if it continues to look for light throughout that 1/200 of a sec.

        I sent the h1200 back and got a refund the day after making my originally post. I was very disappointed.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 2 years ago

          Hi Simon,

          That’s interesting about the later AD600BM strobe output then. Maybe Godox have managed to increased the power of the strobes a little more now.

          Regarding the AD-H1200B head, I think I have a much more obvious explanation now though (and sorry I should have known this earlier because it actually happened to me as well), your 1200Ws bulb was likely just faulty and only firing on one element. As mentioned I had that issue originally and had to exchange the bulb.

  31. fotobese 2 years ago

    5Dmkiv + X1 Tc
    There is no AF assist. Has anyone noticed?

    • mmmfotografie 2 years ago

      I don’t have a mkiv but it is not surprising because the trigger is not yet made compatible with this camera.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 2 years ago

        The X1T-C was made actually made compatible with the 5D Mark IV from V18 firmware onward. So the AF light should work if you have recent firmware.

        Having said that I personally still can’t get the AF light to work with the 5D IV, though I’ve been the only one I know of so far that hasn’t resolved this (I think it must be a camera setting somewhere).

        • fotobese 2 years ago

          Hello,
          I got to your site 50 nofollow backlink link. Bug or features ?

          • Author
            Flash Havoc 2 years ago

            Sorry I’m not sure what you mean by “50 nofollow backlink link” ?

  32. Jesse Patterson 2 years ago

    Hi Flash. I’m not able to get the autofocus beam to work with my 5D4 as well. I thought I was the only one, lol.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Ok… so maybe that’s 2 of us then 🙂

      What I have noticed using the Canon 600EX-RT on the 5D IV, is that the only way I can get the bottom of the 3 AF lights to come on is to use a Sigma lens on the camera (or my Canon 50mm F1.8).

      And when the 600EX-RT bottom AF light is working, then other transmitters like the YN-622C AF lights will then work as well. Though still not the X1T-C unfortunately.

      I have updated the camera firmware, and tried all the cameras settings I could, but still no luck.

  33. Ricardo 2 years ago

    This is such a fantastic write-up!

    I hope the m43 support comes sooner rather than later.

  34. nez 2 years ago

    Hi,
    Can anyone help me?

    Which trigger and receiver combo will work with my flashes?
    I have 2xTT600 and 1x AD360v1.

    I use fuji cameras. I have tried the XT32 which I could adjust levels on the TT600 but not the AD360v1, however this would not fire from the Fuji.

    My 433mhz trigger won’t fire the 2.4ghz TT600s.

    Can I just attach the FT-16s 433mhz receivers to the TT600s? will this work?
    Can anyone help? I have to keep returning parts to amazon!
    Thanks

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi nez,

      Yes attaching FTR-16s receivers to the TT600’s should work.

      Otherwise you should also be able to use a 2.4GHz XT-16 transmitter on your camera, and attach an XTR-16 receiver to the AD360. (TT600 have the 2.4GHz receiver built in).

      Were you using an XTR-16 receiver attached to the AD360 when using the XT32 transmitter?

      • nez 2 years ago

        Hi, thanks for getting back to me. Yes I tried attaching a new XTR-16 to the AD360. It would flash but I couldn’t control the power levels remotely.

        I have a pair of FTR-16s turning up today which hopefully will allow me to trigger and control everything from my old FT-16 trigger at 433mhz.

        I wish godox would hurry up and sort out HSS for Fuji!

        Thanks for your help

    • Peter 2 years ago

      nez,
      Have you tried covering all pins of the XT32 but the center? It’s not a convenient workaround, but doesn’t cost you money (except if you doesn’t have the XTR-16 for the AD360). The XT32 has the nicest interface of the Godox triggers (IMHO), so I would give it a try.
      Elvis’s reply was very comprehensive about your other options.

      • nez 2 years ago

        Hey thanks for getting back to me. I thought about blocking off the pins, but as I couldn’t control the power levels of the AD360 even using a new FTR-16 I decided to send it back. It’s a shame as you say the XT32 is very nice

  35. Galen 2 years ago

    Im a recent Godox/Flashpoint convert. My old system was the Canon/Yongnuo 600EXRT with commander units on the camera. With the old system, I could have some flashes in TTL while others were on manual power. Can I do this with my X1 commander?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Galen,

      If your camera is 2012 onward then you can set the X1T-C transmitter to GR Group mode which allows mixing TTL and Remote Manual groups.

      To enter Group mode hold the mode button down for 2 seconds (While the display is in TTL or Manual mode, not Multi).

  36. stefano 2 years ago

    I have encountered E5 error on my Flashpoint Zoom TTL for Sony (TT685) , new. I just used it as a remote, happened after a few shots.
    Not the first time I have issues, and I am worried about reliability on the job.

    – 1 Godox returned because the orange back panel LCD light did not turn off when in remote. Hard to use in dark environments. Godox did not really help with customer service, but could still return with Amazon.

    – I bought 2 Neewer NW880s that came with soft boxes. Same as Godox TT685s. One of the 2 flashes would turn itself off and on if I would hold it tight sideways (without accidentally moving the battery door). Neewer offer US warranty and they offered a free replacement and a return label after asking for a video of the issue. Waiting for the replacement.

    – Bought at Adorama a Flashpoint Zoom TTL (TT685s) on day deal sale for $89 just before Passover. Today I was using it as a remote in a small apartment for a quick portrait with a TT600 and TT350 as controller. The Flashpoint stopped working with persistent E5 message. Tried different batteries, reset, remove reinsert batteries etc. I still get 5. Someone on a youtube video had the same E5 error after using white Eneloop 2500 batteries. Issues with Eneloop, the gold standard of batteries? I used the TT350 more and no issues. TT685 with different branding seem to have quality control issues.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Stefano,

      Sounds like you’ve had a bad run there with the TT685S’s.

      I don’t think its anything to do with different branding, likely just the batches the dealers have received at different times. If there is a common issue with them though Godox should hopefully rectify it.

      Adorama at least should sort you out with an exchange quickly though.

      I don’t know if there have been similar issues with the V860II-S. Maybe they are worth a try for now instead.

      • stefano 2 years ago

        Thanks for the reply. Any issues with Eneloop AA batteries? someone mentioned somewhere.

        Actually I am quite happy with the 4 TT350S I purchased. No issues, although their display is a less clear at a glance when used it as a master.

        They work quite well with flash disc diffuser (Chinese knockoffs) that are more efficient than flashbenders.

        Just TT350 recycle time may get slow at full power.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 2 years ago

          Yes, the TT350 are a bit low on power for off camera use with modifiers. The larger flash will obviously run at 1/4 of the power level, so recycle is much faster at the same power output.

          I’m not aware if there is any connection or issue with Eneloop AA batteries and the E5 error. Eneloops are by far the most popular batteries used, and even Godox recommend them, at least the standard ones.

          Maybe there could be something to that, though its the first time I have heard any mention of that suggested, and I don’t know what the reasoning may be behind that suggerstion.

          • stefano 2 years ago

            Adorama replaced instantly the defective unit with a replacement when I walked in to customer service. That is really better support than Godox and less paperwork than with Neewer. Will consider buying Flashpoint branded flashes in the future, even if there is the close to 10% NY state tax on top of the base price (but they have flash sales and sometimes Flashpoint flashes can be had at 20 / 30 % off the usual price.

            I have no idea what error E5 is. It would be good to find out.

  37. Mariosch 2 years ago

    New firmware-update for the TT685 available as of today (2017-04-18).

    According to changelogs, the TT685 is now joining the ranks of intercompatible lights with auto-switching TTL-modes for Canon, Nikon, Sony.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Thanks Mariosch!

    • stefano 2 years ago

      Any way to install firmware on Mac OS X?

    • Mariosch 2 years ago

      it seems Godox have remove the update for the TT685 again – at least I can’t find it anymore on their website – last update there for the TT685 C is V3.0 from Mai 18th, 2016 again.

      To make it even more strange – on their Chinese website the update is still available…

  38. Mark 2 years ago

    Hi Flashhavoc,

    Do you know if they plan to add zoom control to the X2 transmitter? I love the Godox system but miss the zoom control from the Yongnuo system.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Mark,

      I don’t know for sure yet, though its highly likely there will be zoom control available via group.

      The X1 do have a pretty limited global zoom control available in the custom functions.

  39. Tim McGuffog 2 years ago

    Hello there
    Probably a question which has already been answered, but it’s not altogether clear to me…
    I’m shooting Nikon using the X1-N T and the X-R N radios. I’m firing a combination of Nikon SB 900/910 and 2 of the Godox TT 685s. Since a while back I changed from Canon, I have 2 of their Speedlites (580EXII + 430EX) lying around not earning their keep! Is it possible to add these 2 to my setup by buying the Canon X1-R C?
    In other words can I control and fire these Canon flash with their Godox trigger from a Godox X1-T N?
    I believe perhaps something was mentioned about Firmware updates or in the pipeline but if you could answer definitively it would be most appreciated

    Thanks a lot
    Tim

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Tim,

      I just tried with the current firmware (X1T-N / V19 and X1R-C / V17) and TTL and Remote Manual appear to work, though HSS does not (the flash won’t fire at all).

      That’s using a Canon 600EX-RT flash, though your 580EXII is likely to have similar results.

      I think mark one flashes like your 430EX have very limited function even with a Canon X1 transmitter and receiver. So I wouldn’t expect much with the 430EX in any case.

      This is all subject to change with firmware though (no telling what may happen once Godox start adding Fuji and M4/3 receiver modes etc as well). That’s why I’m reluctant to say there are definitive answers, when these receivers are generally the last priority (in regard to mixing systems).

      If you’re in the US the V860II are only $129 at Adorama at the moment. Personally I would spend the money on a flash rather than the receivers. And if you sold the Canon flashes you would likely not have to spend much at all, and come out with a much more convenient system.

      • Tim McGuffog 2 years ago

        Thanks a lot for taking the time and effort!
        What you say makes a lot of sense. It’s true that, whilst the receivers are a godsend for a ‘halfway house’/in between systems setup, they are the weak link.
        It’s funny that I’d never considered selling the flash, would anybody want them? Not sure I’d buy secondhand speedlight flash! But you are right it would be an answer for a more reliable system.
        129 dollars sounds a steal but I live in Europe, sadly for this deal! Probably find a good deal if I look hard enough!

        Thanks again

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 2 years ago

          Ok thanks, you would be surprised, genuine Canon flashes still fetch good prices on Ebay etc. They are still hard to beat for on-camera flashes.

          The Godox flashes are not so cheap in Europe though either, so I would imagine you would be looking at the TT685 again to make less of a changeover cost.

      • Joel 2 years ago

        aaaand, the sale is over. Doh! Would have grabbed a V860S at that price.

  40. Benson 2 years ago

    Can I use TTL and HSS, if I use a V860II-c(Canon) version) remotely with x1t-n on a Nikon camera? Or with x1t-s on a Sony camera?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Benson,

      Yes all the V860II versions have Canon, Nikon, and Sony, TTL and HSS enabled radio slave modes.

  41. C. Stephen Hurst 2 years ago

    Hi,

    Can you either confirm or debunk the rumor that the new X2 transmitter will have a built in light meter. Sounds amazing but also quite far fetched.

    Thank you

  42. Cristiano Silva 2 years ago

    I recently bought an AD360 godox flash to use with my fuji x-t2, it came with the ft-16 transmitter and the ftr-16 and they work perfectly with x-t2 only in manual. I want to buy the AD600BM flash but I do not know which trigger to buy. I saw several videos on youtube and some say that the canon version works and others say that the version for nikon is better, I know my trigger does not work because it works at 433mhz and the ad600bm already has the 2.4GHz integrated receiver.I know tha exist a XTR16 that works in 2.4Ghz but is this my only option? it works with the x-t2 ? I can control the power of the AD600BM with the XTR16?

    Someone with experience in this flashes with the fuji system and especially the x-t2 tryed this with the cactus v6II ? i don´t need TTL but HSS is very welcome.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Cristiano,

      Some people have reported the XT32 transmitter for Canon or Nikon working without having to tape over any TTL contacts. The guaranteed option would be the single firing pin XT-16 transmitter.

      Once the TT350F master flash becomes available soon you can use that as the transmitter unit which should allow for HSS as well.

  43. Den 2 years ago

    I’ve noticed on my 5DIV that using the X1C (ie turning it on) slows down the focus aquisition speed of the camera in low light. Try yourself in low light by focusing on random objects, it’s definately slower (say 40%) than when the X1C is turned off.

    Anyone else able to confirm similar issues? Or might be a seetings issue somewhere

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Den,

      I haven’t tried this yet, though just checking, do you mean the X1T-C focus assist light is coming on while you’re trying to focus or not?

      • Den 2 years ago

        No the focus assist light makes no difference. I mean if you use the camera in low light with or without the X1C mounted (or switched on/off) the camera will slow down in how quickly it can focus. However, I tried this also with my Canon ST-E3 and to my surprise the same thing happens. Sooo , for some reason the 5DMIV takes longer to focus when you have something on the hotshoe.

  44. Alex Anderson 2 years ago

    I have bought the Godox AD200 for use in conjuction with a set of Yongnuo YN560iii, I wanted to trigger the AD200 with an RF603 or RF605 (via a 2.5mm sync cord) but they do not seem to work, any ideas for why ?

    • Mariosch 2 years ago

      There is no 2.5mm sync cord – neither on the AD200 nor on the RF 603 / 605 🙂
      On the AD200 it’s a 3.5mm connector, and on the RF 603 / 605 it’s a PC connector.

      In case it was just a typo and you’re using a PC -> 3.5mm cable, ignore this post, I have no idea why it’s not working, sorry :/

      But if you’re using a 2.5mm -> 3.5mm cable – and it sounds to me like you might – then that’s the issue – the 2.5mm connector on the 603 / 605 is for camera shutter release, not flash sync. Use the PC connector instead.

  45. Marty 2 years ago

    Any idea when the Flashpoint R2 receiver for Sony may be available, and which Sony brand flashes it will work with?

  46. LeeTennessee 2 years ago

    Would Godox consider a receiver for Paul Buff Einstein units?
    They are so popular in US I definitely think they could profit off it

  47. Thanasis 2 years ago

    Can anyone help me ?
    I want to use godox tt685c as master on my 6D and godox v850 + xtr 16 s as slave I only want to trigger the v850 not to control it ( i have xt 16 to do it ) .
    What settings i must do on 685 ?

  48. Ken 1 year ago

    I have a few of the Godox/Flashpoint flash units. I thought they all auto switched to HSS when the shutter speed is changed on camera. But is it only the R2 transmitters that do it? I had the Zoom R2 on camera as master and it wasn’t doing it.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi Ken,

      The Godox and Flashpoint speedlites are all currently the same (just re-branded).

      The Zoom R2 / TT600 will not provide HSS as the master / transmitter on the camera though, you need one of the dedicated master flashes or transmitters on the camera to do that (dedicated to your camera brand).

      The Zoom R2 / TT600 can provide HSS as an off camera slave flash though (to a dedicated master flash / transmitter on the camera).

  49. Miha 1 year ago

    E-TTL still doesnt work when X1T and 5D mark IV are used.

    Its been 10 months since 5D mark IV was released and that issue is still there. Only firmware released (december 2016) was to adress AF Assist lamp. I have read that people have their AF assist lamp working now, but I dont. 3 different Godox X1T triggers later, all latest firmwares, and still it does not work. On my older camera it works, buuuuut, in most cases same AF assist slows my AF and makes it miss focus due to less then usable AF pattern. When I say less then usable, I actually mean its usable only with 100mm lens, which by the way when subjects are too far away to even use AF Assist.

    I love their flashes, but their triggers are a mess. Compared to other cheap solution theirs leave a lot to be desired in terms of fast changing values without pressing a lot of buttons to do so. If You want to use flash in Second Curtain mode, You either go into camera menues (doesnt do anything) or use custom functions ([sarcasm]yes, we all have memorized their custom functions codes and can switch functions like no one is waiting for us to shoot and playing with our di… erm … camera settings[/sarcasm]).

    Having to press a button devoid of tactile response to then scroll a wheel that is as precise as a tugboat and 1 click doesnt corespond to 1 value change.

    I might be little ticked off at Godox for these issues, more over, for their not giving any Fwords about it and fixing issues for users of their products.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi Miha,

      I’m not sure what you mean by TTL doesn’t work with the 5D IV and X1T? The current V19 firmware appears to work fine in TTL with my 5D IV, and I haven’t heard anyone else complain about this.

      V20 was also posted in this comment here in the X1 comments, and that appears to work fine with the 5D IV and TTL as well.

      Regarding the AF assist light, I can’t get that to work with the 5D IV either, though we are very much in the minority there, as its working for most 5D IV owners. I’m still wondering if its not a camera setting affecting this somewhere.

      Regarding the X1 transmitter, yes the interface is lousy, that’s been well discussed and documented. Godox and Flashpoint are working on new X2 versions at the moment, and I’ve had a lot of input into the Flashpoint version (if that eventuates). At this stage I’m personally disappointed in the way Godox have approached all this, though that’s life and we just have to try and do the best we can.

      • Miha 1 year ago

        Hi,

        I mean that when I shoot with using TTL on X1T-C and everything set on EV 0, TTL should light scene properly. In my case with firmware v19 flash would always report F8.0 regardless of what f-stop was set on camera. With new beta firmware v20, flash now see f-stop set on camera and instead of firing full power, there is less power used. Still, image is overexposed, if i had to guess, 3-4 stops. Wish i had a way to post images here, so that i can demonstrate what i mean.

        When i use flash on my mk4 or off camera flash using YN622 in TTL, everything is properly exposed. I have tested this using 5 different flashes, one of which is Godox AD360II. Using X1T-C … doesnt work, using YN622 works perfectly.

        Horrible interface aside. Its only thing that prevents me from ordering AD200.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 1 year ago

          That’s interesting, I was using the AD200 and AD600B and thought they worked fine, looking more closely the AD200 are about a stop more than the AD600B.

          I tried the V860II-C though, and that is about 2.5 stops over exposed.

          The AD600B, and the AD360II-C appear to work fine with correct exposure though, so I’m not sure why your AD360II is not working? (Thats fine with V19 and V20).

          I can see a clear issue when using the V860II-C though.

          • Miha 1 year ago

            Well X1T-C works fine with 5Dmk2, no problem. But on mk4 it all goes gaga.

            • Author
              Flash Havoc 1 year ago

              Ok, you should let Godox know the details then – godox@godox.com

  50. STEFANO S. 1 year ago

    HI,
    WHO KNOWS THE REAL NG AT 50MM OF THE FLASHES GODOX V860II N AND TT685 N?
    THANKS.

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