NEW GODOX V850 Lithium Flash! – UPDATED Specs & Images!

Godox have claimed the title of the worlds first rechargeable Lithium-Ion powered speedlight!, with the release of the new Godox V850 VING remote manual, and off camera HSS capable flash unit!

I think Godox have just created the flash that is going to revolutionise off camera speedlites, and change them forever. The V850 incorporates a powerful and fast recycle Lithium battery pack directly into a compact speedlite !

That’s around 650 full power pops, at 1.5 second recycle! … No need for an external pack!

Godox V850

The Godox V850 is an all manual (single firing pin) speedlight, but with remote manual power control from the transmitter. And through the same FT-16 transmitter used by the (also fantastic) Godox Witstro AD180 / AD360 and Cheetah Light bare bulb flash units. The V850 uses a new smaller FT-16S receiver though, that fits more snugly to the side of the flash body.

Godox V850

The new V850 also shares the same unique FP HSS (High Speed Sync) capability (to 1/8000th) as the Witstro, using the Godox Cells II as transmitter. So although this is a manual speedlight, it still has the HSS feature most desirable in TTL speedlites, but only available off camera. Cells II are currently available for Canon, with a Nikon version coming.

 

The absolute kicker though is the V850 uses a relatively small (but very large capacity) 11.1V 2000mAh Lithium-Ion battery, which provides around 650 full power pops, and 1.5 second full power recycle time. Providing the power equivalent of more than 12 AA batteries!

In other words it has MORE than an external Canon/Nikon style HV battery pack, but built directly into the flash. And at a tiny fraction of the extra size, weight, and inconvenience! (Not to mention hassle of charging 12 AA’s per flash). At just 120 grams the Lithium battery weighs little more than a regular set of 4 good AA’s in the flash.

This is a huge milestone in the direction forward towards purpose built off camera flash units!

Godox V850

The V850 is a completely new speedlight from Godox, designed from the ground up.

And I can see the interface has taken most of its inspiration from the recent Witstro bare bulb flash units. Which (combined with the remote control system) absolutely put most existing speedlights to shame with their simplicity and ease of use (I’m sure most Witstro owners would agree).

Note – the battery level indicator. This will be really useful, and virtually needed now that the flash has so much battery capacity. Otherwise you could often be recharging it well before its actually needed now.

 Godox V850

 

The optional FT-16 transmitter is the same as currently used with the Witstro and Cheetah Light bare bulb flash units. So the V850 should be the ideal speedlight to combine with those, all controlled through the same simple remote. The FT-16 transmitter is not the most contemporary design, but it would have to be one of the fastest and simplest units available for changing remote manual power levels on a number of flashes.

And also very reliable (even though it is the less popular 433MHz frequency). There are 16 individual groups, and manual power adjustment in 1/3rd stops. (Also 16 channels).

Godox FT-16S

The new FT-16S receiver is a more compact unit than used previously on the Witstro, and now plugs into a dedicated port, instead of a regular USB port as the Witstro does. I suspect this may have been changed to make the new socket more of a secure attachment. The very small receiver is powered by the flash and requires no batteries. The advantage of the plug in design (rather than built in) is that the radio system can be updated later.

 

Specs –

Godox V850 Specs

The V850 also has a 3.5mm sync port, S1 and S2 optic slave modes, AF assist light (with remote control from the transmitter), and even a locking pin in the foot (which the Witstro lacks).

 

V850 Detail

 

A number of people have commented about the battery being proprietary, and I can understand some concern there. But keep in mind Godox have basically just put their own external battery packs out of business here with regards to speedlights (and I was just writing about how good they are). So I can certainly understand they would want to recoup that somehow. There are likely practical reasons though too, as the pack is obviously very nicely made to fit in the flash, and with ideal capacity etc.

But having used the Witstro & Cheetah Lights, (which basically use proprietary lithium batteries as well in the PB960 pack), the Lithium battery is really the best thing about them, and I wouldn’t want trade back to AA’s for any money. The advantages of such little battery management is overwhelming, and now you have the extra advantage of no cumbersome external pack or cords needed at all now.

You could argue the Witstro does at least have some other battery pack options possible (like Quantum etc), but its highly unlikely you would need them when the Godox battery pack is so good (at a fraction of the cost). The VB-18 battery in the V850 will not be going away any time soon either, as Godox are already designing it into more flash units. ( tip there 🙂 )

Godox V850

So the new V850 is looking extremely promising so far. Hopefully the V850 works as good as it looks, but I think this is the release of the year so far anyway, if nothing else just for the promise it shows for the near future!

And for current Witstro & Cheetah Light owners it would be hard to find a more convenient speedlight option to add to their existing set up.

Godox V850

Update – Full Godox Brochure –

 

Price and Availability –

 

Available now for around $119 –

Amazon – Neewer TT850FT-16sCells II

Ebay – Godox V850Godox FT-16sCells II

CheetahStand – V850FT-16sCells II

Eachshot -6% – V850

 

Cells II (for HSS) are currently available for Canon, with a Nikon version coming soon.

Godox – Website

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45 Comments
  1. rmrpictures 6 years ago

    These guys are killing it! Just bought the 180 will be purchasing the 360 and a couple of these and your set! Sorry Yongnou 622 you’re for sale!

  2. Jacques 6 years ago

    Damn, still no auto exposure mode. No built-in TX. And no pass-through hotshoe on the separate FT-16 trigger. In other words, still no on-camera solution. Nice remotes, but event photogs need remotes that are integrated with an AE on-camera flash.

    Grrrr…

    • Jacques 6 years ago

      Which would argue for a TTL system like YN-568 + RF-622, except that a) this won’t work on mirrorless cameras, and b) TTL pass-through tends to be flaky.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      Hi Jacques,

      I’m pretty sure Godox will have a new transmitter in the works, which will combine the FT-16 and Cells II. So it may have any number of other features yet too.

      Also the transmitter stated is actually the FT-16S (not FT-16) so this may already be some form of updated transmitter, I’m not sure what the S is yet.

      Regarding flash on camera and TTL etc, you mention the issue already with the mirrorless camera. Hopefully Godox would have a TTL on camera flash later that will still fire and control these flashes, but there still needs to be a separate transmitter that can even be used even hand held if needed, so it can change the power levels without being connected to any camera system.

      This is obviously just a simple manual system for strobist work, but you can be sure TTL systems will be coming as well eventually.

      • Jacques 6 years ago

        “Hopefully Godox would have a TTL on camera flash later that will still fire and control these flashes”

        That would be awesome, as long as they make a Panasonic version as well as a Canon version.

        • Jacques 6 years ago

          For event work, the fast recycle makes these effectively twice as powerful as a slower flash, since the latter would have to be used at 1/2 power to keep up.
          Three days overdue now. Waiting, waiting, waiting…

          • Author
            Flash Havoc 6 years ago

            Hi Jacques,

            They will be a few weeks yet, they’re still doing final testing at the moment. So likely around the middle of the month now at the earliest.

    • tommy leong 6 years ago

      i hope they will use proprietary batteries too.
      THAT ought to kill it for sure 🙂

  3. plevyadophy 6 years ago

    wow!!

    This is great.

    Of course the downside is that if the battery does die on you, you can’t just run down to the local corner store to get a replacement set of batteries. But still, the benefits are huge.

    Do you know if this Godox lithium battery is running directly into HV circuitry of the Godox V850 thus giving us the kinda fast recycle times one gets from external battery packs plugged into the HV port?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      Yes a good back up would be if they could still accept an AA cartridge somehow. I’m not sure if that would be he case or not.

      But the AD180 and 360 have no AA option either, and having no AA’s has been one of the best things about them. A second spare Lithium battery on hand would keep you going longer than a heap of AA’s from the corner shop.

      They state 1.5 second full power recycle, so I think that would have to be going straight to the capacitor like a HV port.

  4. iTuner 6 years ago

    A good trend!
    Couple of years ago, I wanted to combine into a single package a lithium battery, YN465, PIXEL TD381 and PIXEL KING 🙂

    If the idea quickly picked up by other manufacturers, then very soon we will not have to carry a lot of AA batteries.
    Remote control very soon be a common feature.

    But I am less and less want to have a speedlite
    More and more I want to ultracompact lightweight monoblock or generator 🙂

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      I actually heard a rumor earlier they may be working on an ultra compact monoblock. That’s what I have been campaigning for as well.

      But speedlights are still a brilliant option to have when you want super light and portable.

      With built in radio receiver, and now built in battery pack just makes them so much more simple and compact again.

      Not to mention practical. Knowing the batteries will need changing in speedlights is one of the most frustrating parts. This just makes them soooo much more practical.

  5. Amir 6 years ago

    This will be a great off-camera solution. Why would they not add TTL to make it suitable for on-camera use though? Godox already has the firmware for that.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      I’d be surprised if Godox are not working on a TTL system as well. But this is obviously just a remote manual strobist type flash for now.

      Hopefully they will have considered integrating the systems though (unlike YongNuo).

      • iTuner 6 years ago

        Integration with system management from Canon / Nikon and other things can not be.
        Yongnuo make the system in accordance with the protocol Nikon CLS, Canon Wireless E-TTLII and Canon RT. The problem is that each of these protocols are incompatible in principle. On the other hand , we have the most compatible equipment .
        YN-560III like this V850 will have its own with nothing compatible transmitter for flashes with manual power control.

        Godox only integrate their own with nothing synchronization with a system power control in all its products .
        It is convenient only if you use simple products of Godox ‘s all.

        Besides GODOX almost all Chinese manufacturers have made their own inconsistent management system using only one frequency of 2,4 GHz
        Thus, they restrict themselves within their own system.
        In my opinion, this is not the best way of development.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 6 years ago

          Sorry, when I say integrated, I just mean the YN-622 (or now the RT system) can not fire the YN-560 III.

          And so far YongNuo have not been receptive to questions regarding combining them externally either (through pass through hotshoe, or PC sync out etc). Though who knows they may come around 🙂

          There’s nothing yet to say Godox will integrate the systems either though (their TTL system doesn’t even exist yet). I’m just saying hopefully they will have planned an integrated TTL and remote manual system (lets hope).

          The radio triggers, or at least the receiver, just clips on to the flash via USB port on the side, so its not technically built in. But this is a good thing as Godox could change to 2.4GHz at some point. The last time I asked they said they have just released their first 2.4GHz flash triggers (not for these). But that’s a good sign they may move to 2.4GHz here as well.

          The Godox trigger system is bound for an overhaul, as they need to combine the Cells II HSS function into the one transmitter. So you can be sure something new will be coming in the way of triggers.

          • iTuner 6 years ago

            <>

            I have written many times on a more elegant solution to run YN-560III
            No it becomes necessary to build a pyramid on top of the camera from different triggers 🙂

            You have to request advanced functionality for manual YN-560TX,
            That’s him and RF-603II is needed to pass TTL can be put on top of Flash with TTL.

  6. Pancho Skywalker 6 years ago

    Should have been bare bulb.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      I think there’s every chance that will come eventually too 🙂

  7. Alex 6 years ago

    Been saying it for the last 12 months, why is there no lithium battery cell for a speedlight. After all, the cameras they’re mounted onto have been using them for years! Hallelujah!

    I’m longing for a Godox AD-90. The form factor of the other AD models (bare bulb), but a built in battery. Would be an even better on-location kit due to the smaller size and reduced number of parts.

  8. Armin 6 years ago

    Hmmm, I can see the advantages, but it has a disadvantage too: It’s a proprietary design. AA batteries fit everywhere, but this battery only in that Godox flash.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      That’s true, but the AD180 and AD360 have a proprietary battery as well (on the PB960 pack), and that’s one of the best things about the flash.

      As an option would be cool, but there’s no way I would choose to have to use AA batteries in the flash again like a regular speedlight.

      And the advantages of basically having an external battery pack conveniently built into the flash are huge.

  9. Ricardo Gomez 6 years ago

    Yes, I have to go with the “it’s a proprietary design” comment. Because a speedlite is so small. A 4-pack of batteries is about the size of a chewing gum pack. Pretty easy to carry. Even 12 batteries is super small. And 1 set of batteries will make it through a photoshoot or event. No problem.

    The AD180/360 is a whole other story. It’s more practical for those to use a dedicated lithium battery pack versus batteries. The power drain is several times more….

    • Jacques 6 years ago

      Well, yes, AAs are pretty small. But 12 of them for each of 2 or 3 flashes adds up to a lot of extra weight. A Li-ion pack is not only smaller, but much lighter. I definitely consider this new feature a strong selling point.

      • Ricardo Gomez 6 years ago

        If you need 12 batteries per flash. Then yes, this would be a good thing. But considering the other manufacturers haven’t done this, it’s probably a pretty small demographic. And they’ll stop making/selling them because there isn’t enough interest. Hopefully I’m wrong. Diversity and competition is good.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 6 years ago

          The biggest factor will simply be if the flash is up to scratch, and provided the price is reasonable. Theres no risk of a small demand for these if the flash is good.

  10. Armin 6 years ago

    What would be really useful: a battery diagnosis with percentage of remaining charge like seen on e.g. Nikon cameras.

    And if manufacturers could agree to ONE form factor.

  11. Amir 6 years ago

    Does it have a sync port (either PC or 3.5mm)? Does not look like it from the photos I have seen.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      Yep 3.5mm sync port, next to the receiver socket.

  12. Armin 6 years ago

    OK, I’m convinced. The fact that it has HSS and the same remote power controll than the Witstro is great and makes me think of selling my 560IIIs.

  13. Alex 6 years ago

    Seeing the extra screenshots, it looks like the standard FT-16 wireless receiver won’t be compatible because the port doesn’t look USB on this flash. Can anyone confirm?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      Hi Alex,

      That’s correct, its not a USB port in the flash this time. So no the original FT-16 receiver won’t work, you need the new FT-16S receiver. The transmitters are the same though.

      I would assume they have changed the port to make it a little more compact, but hopefully also to make it more secure. I wouldn’t be surprised if the receiver locks in tighter now.

      Its a pity the FT-16S won’t fit in the Witstro/Cheetah then either, as I would prefer the lower profile Rx for those as well.

  14. Bruce 6 years ago

    Godox are onto a winner here IF the price comes in at or under $100 USD and the replacement/back up batteries are about $40 USD a pop. Definitely agree with a previous poster that it could the start of me selling my YB 560’s…And I have a few of those…

    I recently got the AD 360 and was very impressed with the build quality.

  15. DMW 6 years ago

    Very compelling design.
    I doubt they can sell it via distribution for less than $100 especially considering the Lithium Ion battery, requisite charger, and receiver. I hope they can keep it under $200 for the package. With extra batteries about $35.

    Great complement to the AD/CL-180/360 units already available.

    I also agree a mini bare bulb configuration would have been nice for umbrella frame modifiers. But the head looks similar to Canon 580EXII head which means there are lots of modifiers that will slip onto it easily.

  16. iTuner 6 years ago

    In China has started selling VING V850
    Usually, the price outside of China is up to twice.

    the price of the base set: $95
    price of the base set with receiver FT-16S: $107
    flash without battery and charger: $65

    options should be available for sale later:
    Charger VC-18
    Car Charger for VV-18
    Lithium Battery VB-18

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      Hi iTuner,

      Fantastic thanks for that.

      Provided the flash is as good as it looks, around $200 would be a fantastic price for this.

      You have to keep in mind the battery and charger is included, and that also replaces the expense of a separate battery pack and all the batteries (and chargers). So its still very well priced over all, and much more convenient. Thanks.

  17. George 6 years ago

    Can i control the power manualy from my Nikon D3x and fuji XE1
    Regards George

    • iTuner 6 years ago

      Power is controlled by transmitter FT-16, provided that the receiver FT-16C is connected
      Synchronization is carried out by means of the center contact on the hot shoe of any camera (with ISO hot shoe or need an adapter)
      For synchronization, you can also use a compatible trigger

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      Hi George,

      Yes as iTuner mentioned, as long as you mount the FT-16 transmitter on the camera hotshoe, you can use both your Nikon and Fuji with remote manual power control from the camera.

      This is one of the big advantages of these simple manual systems, they will work cross platforms on mirrorless etc as well.

  18. Armin 6 years ago

    Ebay item number 350919828562. Available for 137,95 $ from Gadget Infinity.

  19. Wil C. Fry 6 years ago

    As others have noted, the proprietary battery design could be a downside. For event photographers, it might be a no-brainer, but for hobbyists, amateurs, and maybe some freelancers, this should be a deal-breaker.

    I can’t think of a good reason why major camera and flash manufacturers couldn’t come up with a cross-brand lithium battery. (“We don’t want to” isn’t a good reason.) For example, Canon, Nikon, and Sony cameras could all use the same exact battery (with a more powerful one for pro-level cameras).

    How nice would it be if at the family reunion I could borrow Uncle Bob’s spare battery from his Nikon for my Canon? Or if his Yongnuo flash battery could fit in my LumoPro?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 years ago

      Hi Wil,

      If I hadn’t have owned the Godox Witstro units already I probably would have been thinking the same. But having the Witstro, I pick that up well before any speedlites, simply because the battery is always ready, and I won’t have to worry about batteries at all.

      Now I can do the same with speedlites, and not even worry about a separate battery pack. A universal battery would be better, but its just not any issue for me in practice. The benefits far outweigh any downside.

      Each to their own I guess, but there’s no way you could convince me to go back to AA’s given the choice. If this was an expensive battery only available at Canon prices fair enough, but Godox are already around the best bang for buck, so buying their battery is pretty painless.

      One of the other manufactures may try and outdo them with a more universal battery option like Sony etc yet. I’m not sure there is one the ideal size and capacity like this though. Thanks.

  20. XYLHEMX 5 years ago

    I bought the NEEWER BRAND from amazon of both V850 nad AD360.
    The V850 (TT850 on neewer) only produce ave. of 350 shots out of the rated 650. Did the test twice using camera’s intervelometer. It was set to fire every 30sec.(35sec. On the second test) so the overheat protection doesnt come on.

    I also did the same with AD360. It only produce 45 full power shots out of rated 75 shots, after that the battery is depleted. Did the test 4x. The 3d led light wad dead too.

    I returned both. I am now thinking of just getting the GODOX or CHEETAH Brand.
    I LoVe bothe of the flash, i just got a bad unit(battery) i guess.

    Just sharing my experience, if your thinking of getting it, dont think twice, just make sure you test yours…

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 5 years ago

      Hi XYLHEMX,

      Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately it sounds like you got bad batteries for both units. And that has not been uncommon lately unfortunately.

      Its nothing to do with Neewer though, as Godox and Cheetah units have had similar issues. I have a dead CL360 battery now as well.

      I’ve reported this issue to Godox a number of times recently, and hopefully they can rectify this. Thanks again.

  21. Terry 3 years ago

    Is this flash for either Nikon or Canon, I mean will it work on either camera, or are they brand specific, also will this work off camera with the new Godox X1trigger and will you be able to do HSS with the said trigger, as I already have a V860II so was thinking of adding a couple of manual flashs, and I really like the Lithium battery so one of these could be ideal

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