Godox provide a couple of transmitter units for the popular V850 and Witstro, allowing remote manual power control and HSS with compatible cameras, though there are number of reasons you may want to combine other radio triggers as well.
These could be to –
- Combine other non Godox V850 and Witstro flash units
- Use a TTL flash mounted on the camera hotshoe instead of a transmitter unit
- Simply make use of your existing radio trigger system.
The current transmitter units Godox provide are the FT-16 and Cells II.
FT-16 can be mounted on most camera hotshoes to fire the Godox flashes, as well as provide a simple remote manual power control.
For the remote power control the FT-16 do not need to be attached to a camera, so they can also be held in hand (a bit like a TV remote), and carried in your pocket etc.
CELLS II TRANSMITTER
NOTE - most Canon DSLR models should now be compatible with the Cells II, though I have had a report of both the 1Ds, and 1D MKIII not firing the flash at all with the Cells II.
UPDATE – March 2015 - The Godox Cells II-N are now available for NIKON as well.
Its likely Godox will eventually combine the FT-16 and Cells II HSS into one transmitter. Though for now the Cells II must be placed directly on the camera hotshoe to allow HSS with the V850 / Witstro, and the FT-16 transmitter can then be held in hand to change power levels on the flashes.
And also the remote power control signal from the FT-16 transmitter unit only.
YONGNUO YN-622N – HSS – NIKON
Apart from using the now available Godox Cells II-N transmitter, the simplest option otherwise to achieve HSS with Nikon Cameras is likely by using the YongNuo YN-622N. As the FT-16 transmitter can simply be stacked on top of one YN-622N mounted on the camera hotshoe, with no extra receiver units required.
The YN-622N picks up the early fire signal (required for HSS) from the camera, and passes that on to the FT-16 transmitter on top. So the FT-16 can now send the early fire signal directly to the flash units, and no other YN-622N receivers are required.
So the one YN-622N with FT-16 transmitter mounted on top, can now fire up to 16 groups of V850 or Witstro, with HSS available, and just using their existing FT-16/s clip-on receivers –
POCKETWIZARD MINI TT1 – HSS – CANON / NIKON
The PocketWizard Mini TT1 transmitter for Canon or Nikon can be used in the same way as the YN-622N described above, to provide the early HSS fire signal, and with no extra PocketWizard receivers required.
The TT1 even have a timing adjustment available, which should theoretically help fine tune the results with HSS.
I’ve had quite a number of conflicting reports though with the TT1, from great results to non at all. This could be due to user error, or not understanding the PocketWizards options. I haven’t used the TT1/TT5 for a while now, so I’m not really sure at this stage why they work for some and not for others.
There are many ways to use and set up the PocketWizard ControlTL system with HSS (actually HyperSync) when using TT1 or TT5 as transmitter units on the camera, and TT5, or even manual Plus II / III / X, units attached to the flash via sync cord.
YONGNUO YN-622C – CANON
The Canon version YN-622C are not quite as simple as the Nikon version described above, as they do not provide the early fire signal through the hotshoe, only through their PC sync port.
So instead of stacking the FT-16 transmitter on top of the YN-622C, it must now be connected via a PC sync cord, with a hotshoe at the end which the FT-16 can then be mounted onto. The hotshoe cord is required, as the FT-16 does not have a PC sync port to connect to otherwise.
Again you can now fire up to 16 groups of V850 or Witstro, with HSS available, and just using their existing FT-16/s clip-on receivers –
This configuration works fine, and I find results with HSS are similar to the Cells II. The main issue is simply finding a place to mount the FT-16 and hotshoe.
You can stack them on top of the YN-622 again if the hotshoe cord has a foot underneath, or if you add a screw on type foot. This gets pretty high mounted on the camera, though it does still provide a reasonably convenient place to mount them.
The hotshoe to screwlock PC sync cords are available from FlashZebra.com.
NOTE – If using the YN-622C-TX as transmitter unit 0n the camera hotshoe instead of the regular YN-622C, connecting an FT-16 transmitter via PC sync cord as shown above will not work.
So when using the YN-622C-TX as transmitter either of the methods show below, attaching a YN-622C receiver unit to every flash, or Ft-16 transmitter attached to a YN-622C receiver, would need to be used instead.
ATTACHING A TTL RECEIVER UNIT TO EVERY FLASH
This way only the TTL transmitter is needed on the camera hotshoe. The FT-16 transmitter can be held in hand for changing power levels remotely.
[ UPDATE – If using the YN-622C-TX as the transmitter mounted on the camera, then the hotshoe on YN-622C receivers will actually provide the early fire signal, and the sync cord is not required ]
FT-16 TRANSMITTER ATTACHED TO A RECEIVER
To help clean up the transmitter units mounted on the camera, and reduce the receiver units needed, there is another option. Mounting the FT-16 transmitter on a second YN-622C used as a receiver.
This requires only a second YN-622C, and provides as good results in HSS, if not a little better (due to slight added delay). And still no extra YN-622C receivers are required attached to the Godox flash units.
And a second FT-16 transmitter can then be hand held to remotely change the power levels of the Godox flashes.
The transmitter and receiver set can then be mounted anywhere away from the camera if desired.
If they were located somewhere around half way between the camera and flashes you could likely even extend the range, as one set of radio triggers is relaying on to the next. Below I have mounted them next to the flash units, simply for convenience.
Note – the power level on the FT-16 transmitter does not match the flashes. This is because a second FT-16 is being used in hand to remotely control the flash power levels.
PHOTTIX ODIN – HSS – CANON / NIKON / SONY
The Phottix Odin for Canon for Nikon do not have a pass through hotshoe, or PC sync port on the transmitter. So an option here (without adding an extra Odin or Strato II receiver unit to each flash) is to place the FT-16 on an Odin receiver.
Again this avoids any extra receivers needed on the Godox flashes, and the slight extra delay provides more light in the image when using HSS (as good if not better than the Cells II). A Strato II receiver can also be used instead of the Odin receiver, though I found the delay there starting to go too far and show a little shutter in the image.
You can then either carry the Odin / FT-16 around together, or mount them somewhere away from the camera, and simply use a second FT-16 transmitter in hand / pocket to change the Godox flash power levels.
PIXEL KING PRO – HSS – CANON / NIKON
The Pixel King Pro for Canon and Nikon should provide the early sync signal required for HSS, and from previous testing the timing (or delay) is similar to the YN-622C.
NOTE – For Canon at least, to receive the early pre-sync signal at the King Pro (or King X) receiver, the King Pro transmitter must be set to ETTL mode for the group being used for HSS. A manual flash can still be used, but the transmitter must be set to ETTL
I have not been able to have the FT-16 work with HSS just mounted straight on top of the King Pro Transmitter, mounted on the camera. A couple of people have said this works with the Nikon version, but those few reports may not be enough to rely on at this stage.
Provided the early sync signal is working though, I would expect you can mount the FT-16 directly on top of a King Pro / X receiver hotshoe, as with the Odin above. And timing should be similar to the YN-622C, which is generally quite good with the slight added delay of the second set of radio triggers.
COMBINING OTHER TTL FLASHES OFF CAMERA
If you would like to fire and control your other Canon and Nikon etc TTL flashes off camera, in combination with the Godox V850 and Witstro, most of the above TTL radio trigger options should allow for that. You would simply need the respective TTL receiver units attached to each TTL flash.
The TTL flashes are remote controlled through their respective TTL transmitter (Odin, YN-622C etc), and the Godox flashes are controlled through the FT-16 transmitter.
And HSS should be available to all of the Godox V850 / Witstro and HSS enabled TTL flashes.
COMBINING OTHER MANUAL FLASHES OFF CAMERA
To combine other manual flashes (or even TTL flashes being used as simple manual flashes) the Cells II can also be used as separate receiver units to the FT-16 as transmitter.
TTL FLASH ON CAMERA – HSS OFF CAMERA
YongNuo - YN622C and YN622N – TTL Flash mounted directly on the transmitter pass through hotshoe. FT-16 mounted on a YN622C/N receiver, or YN-622c/N receivers attached to all the Godox flashes as well.
YongNuo - YNE3-RX receiver – Canon 600EX-RT or YongNuo YN600EX-RT flash mounted on the camera hotshoe, and YNEX-RX receiver attached to each flash via PC sync cord. Or attach an FT-16 transmitter to a YNE3-RX receiver via PC sync cord.
Phottix - The Mitros+ flash with Odin transmitter would be mounted on the camera hotshoe. FT-16 mounted on a Odin receiver, or Odin/Strato II receivers attached to all the Godox flashes as well.
PocketWizard - TT1 or TT5 – TTL Flash mounted directly on the transmitter pass through hotshoe. TT5 / Plus III / X receivers attached to all the Godox flashes. (FT-16 mounted on a PocketWizard receiver may also work).
TTL FLASH ON CAMERA – NO HSS OFF CAMERA
Using a hotshoe to PC sync cord, the FT-16 transmitter can be connected directly to the cameras PC sync port (provided it has one).
Another option is to use manual triggers like the Phottix Strato II which have a fairly solid TTL Pass Through Hotshoe. Allowing a TTL flash to be mounted on the camera while manual receivers are attached to and fire the Godox flashes. The FT-16 is then used to control the remote manual power levels of the Godox flashes.