New Godox WITSTRO AD180, AD360 – Bare Bulb Flash – 180 & 360ws, Wireless Power Control.

Chinese company Godox have released impressive new WITSTRO AD180 and AD360 bare bulb hotshoe flashes, with claimed 180 and 360ws power output, and healthy 60m and 85m guide numbers (Iso 100, with the standard 28mm reflector), and Wireless Remote Manual Power Control.

The Godox unit is just one of a number of bare bulb speedlights that were rumoured to be released in 2012, most of which did not eventuate (as yet). The WITSTRO may well be the start of some great things to come.

Godox WITSTRO AD180

Godox WITSRO AD180 28MM Standard Reflector

 FEATURES –

  • Powerful 180ws / 360ws – GN 60m / 85m  (ISO 100, standard 28mm reflector)
  • 900 Full Power Pops – with the Lithium Godox PB960 Propac
  • Fast Recycle Times 0.05 – 2.6 seconds
  • No Overheating – Fire many consecutive flashes without overheating
  • Wireless Remote Manual Power Control – (with optional FT-16 Radio Triggers)
  • 1/1 – 1/128 power levels in 1/3 rd stop adjustments (22 adjustments)
  • Accurate colour temperature output 5600K +/- 200K
  • Flash duration 1/300 to 1/10,000
  • Focus Assist Light
  • Built in Optic Slave
  • Sound Prompt Beep (recycle ready etc)
  • Lightweight and Compact – just 550 grams – Lithium pack 540 grams
  • Modifiers available to attach directly to the flash head bayonet mount
  • Removable and replaceable bulb
  • Professional Lithium PB960 Power Pack available with detachable battery packs
  • Lower priced PB820 Nimh Pack also available

 

 

Godox WISTRO AD180

 

The AD180 requires an external power pack like the new lighweight and compact Lithium Godox PB960 ($170 – $200) or the previous Nimh PB820 (from $110) and provides up to 900 full power pops with the Lithium pack, with 2.6 second recycle at full power.

Godox WITSRO AD180 & PB960

 

1/1 – 1/128 power levels in 1/3 rd stop adjustments (22 adjustments).

Godox WITSTRO AD180 LCD

 

Optional FT-16 Radio Triggers provide Wireless Remote Manual Power Control. The receivers attaching to the side of the flash via USB port instead of the foot, which takes physical stress of that connection. 1/1 – 1/128 power levels in 1/3 rd stop adjustments. The FT-16 are 433MHz which is a bit of a shame as recent 2.4GHz triggers have proven much better range and reliability, the antenna would help achieve the stated 50 metre range though.

Godox FT-16

Multiple groups (A, B, C, D, E, F)

Godox Witstro AD180 & FT-16 Radio Triggers

The Witstro use a standard Lumedyne style mount like the Q-flash and Sunpak 120J use,  so most of the Lumedyne and Quantum accessories will be compatible.

Godox Witstro AD180

 

The Metal flash foot is looking to be single firing pin only, I’m not sure how the focus assist light would not work on camera with just this one connection.

Godox Witstro AD180

 

Ports appear to be both PC and 3.5mm sync, USB for the radio trigger, and the battery pack HV port.

Godox Witstro AD180

 

And a range of direct mounting modifiers including what looks to be an umbrella mount that screws directly to the side of the flash head (AD-S6).

 

Godox Witstro AD180 Modifiers

 

 

The complete unit still packs fairly light and compact.

Godox Witstro AD180 Packed

 

On-camera – the Witstro is labelled as dual purpose, for on and off camera use. Though it would be manual only even on-camera, which is fairly limited compared to the Q-flash which offers full TTL (though at a higher price).

Godox WITSTRO AD180

 

Specs -

Model AD180
Flash energy 180WS
Flash Index 60m (ISO 100, using a standard reflector) 
-top use, the standard reflector flash covers the range of about 28mm
Up and down the angle of rotation -15 ° -90 °
Left and right rotation angle 0-270 °
Power supply Power Box (PB960, PB820)
Number of flashes 900 times (full power, the power supply box PB960)
Recycle time Approximately 0.05-2.6s (power box PB960)
Color Temperature 5600 ± 200k
Flash duration 1/300s-1/10000s
Volume 205 * 90 * 70 mm (excluding lamps and reflectors)
Net weight 550g (excluding lamps and reflectors)

 

So the Godox Witstro is certainly looking very interesting. Godox speedlites have not been the highest quality so far, but they have clearly put some thought and development time into the AD180/360, so hopefully this will be a pretty decent unit. As with most Godox gear you can expect they will be very reasonably priced.

The main question will be if they a can actually live up to the power and guide numbers quoted. Those are often exaggerated to some degree, though looking at the recycle times and flash durations it does look like it’s possible these will be reasonably powerful.

As mentioned this was just one of a number of bare bulb hotshoe flashes rumoured to emerge in 2012. I personally think these can be packaged into even more compact and practical speedlite style units with lightweight lithium batteries built in.

If the power (and price tag) of the Witstro does measure up, this could be the unit to really kick off the start of some very interesting dedicated, compact and powerful, off camera hotshoe flashes.

 

Price and Availability -

There are no sellers of the AD180 and 360 listed just yet so pricing is yet to be confirmed, though you can expect they will be very reasonable.

The Propac PB960 is already starting to list on Ebay from $179.95 – $200 so far.

The Nimh version Propac PB820 can be found now on Amazon from $112.  The PB960 should list soon.

Godox website

 

Related Articles -

- Godox PB960 Lithum Power Pack

10 Comments
  1. ituner 2 years ago

    Noticed a flaw in the design of the outbreak.
    Specifically, the design of the feet, high and severe outbreak, does not provide a secure fit on the camera’s hot shoe.
    In addition to locking the wheels, there is nothing there.
    The locking pin is missing ..

    Personally, I would not install this outbreak, burdened with modifiers, on the camera .. There is a very good chance that it can go off the rails and fall.
    Sorry for my bad English

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi ituner,

      Thanks, yes I don’t think they are really an ideal on-camera unit, the AD360 is really large for example. But I think manufactures are still a little nervous about completely dedicated off camera units. And it is handy to be able to use them on camera if needed. So personally I would like to see more priority to off camera use, but still some on camera hotshoe possibility, it doesn’t matter so much if on-camera use is compromised. The locking pin would obviously be a good ideal though.

  2. Jason 2 years ago

    Love this idea. My only hope is that my yn622’s are compatible. Proprietary triggers would make this less of a value. Otherwise, this would be a good compromise to monolights.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Thanks Ituner,

      So the mount looks fairly standard and interchangeable. Nice little grids and modifiers too.

  3. Sandr 1 year ago

    Can’t find the information if this flash can be used with quantum batteries.
    Or any special cable required?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi There,

      A few people have reported using them with Quantum batteries without any issues I’ve heard of so far. The plugs/sockets are the same, so the cord that comes with the flash should work ok with the Quantum pack. Thanks.

  4. Alex 1 year ago

    I bought a Godox AD-360 last week and have only had sporadic moments to play with it. Charging times are near instaneous around regular speedlight power levels (1/8th and lower). Full power recycle is slow at 4 seconds, but understandable given the amount of power it’s discharging.

    At full power I can shoot in a relatively large room at ISO 400 and f/5.6 at 1/8th power and the flash doesn’t break a sweat. I am having more trouble than usual firing it via optical slave when outdoors though. Even with the on-camera flash pointed at the slave sensor only an inch away, it won’t fire. Indoors, the slave sensor is fine. I have the FT-16 trigger on order…

    If anyone is interested in a review of the AD-360, let me know here and I’ll find some time to put a video on youtube.

  5. RonB 8 months ago

    Just got mine today. Ran a few tests so far. One of the most important things to me is being able to shoot in HS mode. I switched out the wireless trigger and receiver with my Pixal Kings and HS sync works like a charm. Can’t wait to put it to task on other things. Just for everyone’s information.

  6. Ruliyanto 7 days ago

    Small portable flash with big power, lighter and easier to carry than monoblocks or even battery packs, I tried to over power the sun with this and here’s the result before the retouch https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruliyanto/15250017619/ and here’s the result for food https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruliyanto/14502309116/
    I like this flash very much :)

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