GODOX – XT16 – 2.4GHz Transmitter & Receivers Released

Godox XT16

 

Godox have released 2.4GHz versions of their previous (433MHz) FT-16 radio trigger set, in the new XT16 transmitter, and clip on XTR16, and XTR16s receivers.

The remote manual XT16 transmitters and receivers are basically the same on the outside as the previous FT-16 units, only the internals have been updated to Godox’s new 2.4GHz X radio system.

Most significantly though, the new XTR16 and XTR16s receivers now bridge the gap between the popular remote manual flash units like the AD360 bare bulb flashes, and V850 speedlites, and Godox’s latest X series TTL trigger system (and radio enabled master flash units).

 

Godox XT16

 

X series transmitter units like the X1-C and X1-N will now fire and control remote manual power levels of AD360 and V850 flash units (with corresponding XTR16 and XTR16s clipped to the side of the flashes).

Radio enabled master flash units like the Godox TT685C / TT685N should also provide similar control when used as the transmitter unit on camera.

Godox XT16

 

Godox have provided samples of the XTR16 and XTR16s receivers, and via the X1-C transmitter I am able to control the remote manual power levels of AD360 and V850 strobes, while also using the new AD600B in TTL mode (or remote manual mode) at the same time.

And all providing HSS if desired. (HSS mode must be switched on manually on the AD360 and V850 etc).

All 5 groups (A / B / C / D / E) of the X1-C and X1-N transmitter units work, and correspond with the groups set on the XTR16 and XTR16s receiver group dials.

Groups can also be turned on and off individually from the X1-C transmitter.

(Please note though – mixing TTL and Remote Manual groups, and turning groups on and off individually, requires 2012 onward camera bodies when using the X1-C transmitter for Canon).

 

Godox XT16

 

The XTR16 receivers are also compatible with Godox’s large range of AC mains powered studio lights like the QT600, GT, GS, DE, etc.

Though with the AC powered studio lights remote manual power control is not likely to be possible through the X1-C and X1-N transmitter units (due to the different power scale used). A separate XT16 transmitter could be used as a hand held remote for power control though.

 

Godox XT16

 

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The Godox XTR16 and XTR16s receivers are available now from around $20 –

XTR-16 Receiver – Amazon, UKEbay

XTR-16s Receiver – Amazon, UKEbay

XT-16 Transmitter – Amazon, UKEbay

The X1-C / X1-N and XT16 series radio transmitter and receiver units will also be available from Adorama under the Flashpoint R2 series branding.

 

Godox – Website

 

 

 

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380 Comments
  1. Greg Dunn 1 year ago

    The Chinese suppliers on Amazon have suddenly shown the XTR-16 back in stock, after being unavailable for a month or so. My order has been placed and shipped, so it seems they are indeed available.

  2. Mark Kitaoka 1 year ago

    Received my XTR16 USB Receivers today. Works well with the X1C. Now no need to carry the CellsIIC. Will now be able to combine the AD600/360 and Einstein trigger. Just waiting for the fw update 12 which allows me to activate the modeling light on the AD600. Also I cannot figure out how to activate the beep on either the AD360 or AD600 from the X1C

    • Vaidotas 1 year ago

      Hi,

      You can activate the beep frm X1C via custom functions menu. Just hold channel button for a few secs, and choose one of 7 custom functions (don’t remember which)

      Good luck

  3. Merc 1 year ago

    I just got my set of X1C and XTR16s to use with my v850. Is it possible to turn the flash power setting to off with X1C? I can’t get the power to go lower then 1/128. With the XT16 transmitter you can power down to off.

    • Merc 1 year ago

      Thanks for the reply Mike, but I don’t think I phrased my question correct. So I use 2 v850’s on different channels. Sometimes I just want only one to fire and sometimes I want them both to fire. With the xt16 trigger I can turn the power of 1 flash to off. With the X1C I can’t seem to power 1 flash to off.

      • Mike 1 year ago

        put them on different channels

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 1 year ago

        Hi Merc,

        To turn groups on and off individually you need to set the X1 transmitter to GR group mode (hold the mode button for 2 seconds).

        If you have a pre 2012 camera then the transmitter will keep reverting back to non GR mode when you half press the shutter. To get around this I cover the TTL contacts on the camera hotshoe with a thin piece of cardboard or plastic. And set the transmitter to single firing pin mode so it won’t go to sleep. Its a manual only transmitter then, though at least you can turn groups on and off easier than the XT-16 / FT-16 transmitters.

        • Merc 1 year ago

          When I hold down the button down it makes all groups blink. I can adjust power to all at once, but there can’t seem to figure out how to turn off a group. and I can only make adjustments to all groups at once not individually.

        • Merc 1 year ago

          Just noticed when I hold down the gr button GR never appears on the screen no matter how long I hold it down.

          • Author
            Flash Havoc 1 year ago

            You will need to hold the MODE button for 2 seconds (the bottom button), not the Group button.

            Holding the Group button provides a fast global adjusmtent of all groups.

            • Jacob 10 months ago

              I just want to confirm this major limitation of the FT/XT-16 transmitters that he’s talking about. YOU CANNOT EASILY TURN A GROUP OFF AND THEN BACK ON TO IT’S SAME POWER VALUE. In hopes that this had been fixed on the 2.4GHz XT16 Tx’s I upgraded everything only to find that the same major limitation still exists. While you can hold down the – and + buttons to simultaneously turn a group OFF you cannot recall the power level the group was at so you’re relegated to remembering the power value for each group and then pressing the + button madly to get back up to the power level you were on previously. Even if your memory can handle it, good luck doing that quickly when you’ve got more than a couple groups at high output levels. This means you really need an X1 (group on/off ability explained above) or an XT32 where you can turn the groups on/off with a double press of the “Set” button. I’ve purchased both and each have their peculiarities. One might think the issues end with either of these two, slightly improved transmitters, but another issue Godox perpetuates is the inability to control strobes and speedlights easily with the same transmitter since they use different power value scales. So this basically means you need two triggers if you need to work semi-efficiently. The XT32 requires much more button pressing to select a group, but the XT16 requires much more button pressing to turn power on and off so it’s something of a tie in my view.

              After having purchased dozens of Godox products I’m on the edge of regret. What initially struck me as an amazing value for the functionality is turning into recognition that it’s a system that’s so close, but not quite well perfected enough for professional use. Obviously this will depend on your need, but I’ve purchased most of Godox’s speedlights, from Ving series to AA series, manual to the latest TTL, several AC strobes, several Wistros from manual AD360 to latest TTL 600Ws versions–I’ve had a good range of exposure to Godox product. I waste so much time reading forums to try to figure out if some of these issues are solved, then eventually ordering and testing myself, then upgrading firmware to see which issues are fixed between which products, then buying upgraded hardware in hopes that some of the lingering issues will be resolved. It wears on one.

              It’s a testament to how well-designed products like some of the Wistro’s are that so many of us hang around and deal with Godox’s peculiar Tx/Rx systems. It just amazes me that Godox can reverse engineer the TTL wizardry behind multiple major manufacturers (and seemingly in the space of a year or so) but after two generations can’t produce an FT-16 that allows for easy on/off for a flash group (let alone multiple groups). Sites like Flash Havoc are an absolute necessity in this world–I can’t imagine trying to make sense of this semi-operable technology without the help of everyone here. Am I being too critical or is this sentiment relatable? My sense is that without entities like FH and Adorama intervening we would be much worse off that we are, so maybe I should be counting my blessings.

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                Flash Havoc 10 months ago

                Hi Jacob,

                Thanks, no you’re not being too critical, this is the frustration many people face and you summed it up very well. I’m actually going to forward this comment to the manager at Godox, while trying to get some more updates.

                Literally the day I received the XT32 sample I sent Godox a long email explaining how they could make that transmitter faster, and I pointed out some people will still prefer the FT/XT16 because of the fast simple group selection. Improving the XT32 seems like the common sense thing to do though.

                Anyway Godox did add the Group ON/OFF by double clicking the set button, which was basically the least they could do to make the trigger practical. That was all though.

                I was disheartened (and dumbfounded really), when I got a bit of a run down a couple of months ago on Godox’s product development plans for the near future, and there was no mention of a new transmitter, improved master flash, AD360B style flash, all the things that are priority for many customers. And things like the current X1 and XT32 could have easily been improved to be more practical in the mean time.

                Adorama gave Godox some designs I did for a transmitter unit around a month ago when they visited the factory, and I’ve heard nothing from Godox on that as yet.

                Godox will get there eventually, its just frustrating they won’t concentrate on getting all the fundamentals right for the moment. And I’ve seen myself there’s just no reason a number of these things couldn’t have easily been done.

                The more current discussion of the overall Godox system is here in the System Overview post by the way.

                • Jacob 10 months ago

                  Very glad to hear my frustrations will be forwarded to appropriate ears. And thank you for pointing me to the “System Overview” post. An excellent summary. Thanks for the time you take to provide all this info.

  4. Chris 1 year ago

    Is the X1N and XTR16 compatible with the original godox 180 bare bulb flash. Im likely to upgrade all my flashes to godox when the new vII are released but I would keep the 180 if this work round works. Thank you!

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      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi Chris,

      Yes the AD180 are compatible with the XTR-16 receiver and X1T-N transmitter, for remote power control and HSS.

      • Chris 1 year ago

        Thanks for that! I’ll order them up asap!!!

      • Chris 1 year ago

        Sorry to bother you again but these triggers/flashes may just revolutionise my life/photography!

        The X1N trigger can control an sb900 (with X1NR)…….will said combo control (inc ttl and hss) an sb600?
        To be honest I’d be happy with manual control from the remote (for the sb600) but everything else is a bonus.

      • Virgil 1 year ago

        Can you activate/deactivate the HSS function remotely when using V360 II version in pair with X1 trigger?

  5. Mike 1 year ago

    Just tried the replacement XTR16 and XTR16S with Nikon and have HSS power control and flash with both, now very happy

    Mike

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Great, thanks for the update Mike!

  6. Thomas Geist 1 year ago

    And OF COURSE it happened: backordered at Adorama, even their product listing did not state this. 🙁
    I got the out of stock email right after I ordered.

    I do not like this behavior. Yet I do want to order all further items from them instead from Hong Kong based ebay sellers.

  7. Tony Hoffer 1 year ago

    I received my X1-T and my XTR16s for Nikon today. I installed everything, but for the life of me cannot get the power on my slave flashes to change. I’ve tried different channels, putting the flashes in slave mode and everything else I can find. Since there is no manual for the XTR16s, can anyone guide me on what I may be missing to change my power levels remotely? Thanks!

  8. Dan 1 year ago

    I received an XTR-16s yesterday. I tried setting the XTR-16s and the X1 on group A, B, & C and it will fire but I cannot change the power. There were no instructions whatsoever so I am stuck. I tried updating the X1 and that failed as well. At this point I’m just going back to using the FT system until this gets sorted out.

  9. Htnoam 1 year ago

    Hi guys
    So I got my x1t-n and use v850 with the xtr-16s.
    I set the flash to Manual and the flash fires. But I cannot seem to change the power of the flash. Well, the “test” button sometimes work and sometimes not, something very strange.
    Any idea how to fix it?

  10. Dan 1 year ago

    I ordered an XTR-16s after the recall and I am unable to change power settings on a V850 with the X-1. I tried updating the X-1 with an old Windows 7 machine but I get an error message that I cannot find a fix for. It’s very frustrating.

  11. htnoam 1 year ago

    hi guys
    i got my x1t-n and xtr-162
    now im using them on my V860
    the flash fires but i cannot seem to change the flash power. im using the transmitter and the flash on Manual mode.
    anyone know anything about that problem?

    thanks.

  12. htnoam 1 year ago

    hi guys
    i cannot change the flash power while all is connected as it should be.
    using the V860 with xtr-16
    transmitter x1t-n
    all set to Manual mode.

    any advise?

  13. Henry 1 year ago

    Received X1N set yesterday. Using with GODOX V860n all works fine, i can change the power remotely (note that the flash need to be in iTTL!)!

  14. SpecFoto 1 year ago

    So many recent upgrades for Godox, it is all a bit daunting. I have 2 AD360, 2 AD180 and 2 V850 flash, all with the manual FT 16 triggers/receivers. Had them about 2 years and Luv the quick way for adjusting the power. I do not use the HSS function.

    However I have a couple of upcoming events where HSS could be useful. If I just buy a single X1-N and use it on my D800, can it be set so the existing 433MHz receivers work with the X1? (I realize I have to turn on HSS manually on each flash) Or do I need to buy new 2.4GHz XTR receivers for each flash? Also, any way to make the HSS work with my Olympus EM1 camera?

  15. Trevor 1 year ago

    My pin and USB versions of the upgraded receivers arrived today and were tested with my X1N T and the Ving V860, Wistro AD360, Wistro AR400 and RS600P all now work at 1/250th and change power.

    • Htnoam 1 year ago

      Hi
      For some reason it does not the change the power for my v860.
      Can you please specify what is the version number for the x1t and the v860?

      Thanks

  16. Trevor 1 year ago

    Htnoam
    My X1T is 12 and my V860 is 2.2

  17. JavierCropp 1 year ago

    Hi:
    I have just received a XTR-16 to use on a godox ad180 with a X1Tn transmiter (08 firmware version) on a nikon d800.
    It doesn’t work.
    The XTR-16 flashes the litlle red led but nothing more. The flash doesn’t fire and I can’t change the power.
    I have discovered that if I switch channels A, B and C to ttl on the X1Tn the ad180 will fire, buth always on the same power, I can’t change the power. Besides I don’t want all the channels on ttl.
    I have tried to use the XTR-16 with a godox tt685n (with the latest firmware ver 2.7), but it doesn’t work.
    (Previously I used a godox X1RN with the x1tn and the ad180. The flash fired but I had to change the power on the flash 180 itself).
    Could you help me please??
    Thank you!

    • Mike 1 year ago

      firstly upgrade your transmitter toV12 I believe

    • andrew 1 year ago

      here is a video on how to update

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TURqCEh3ULc

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi Javier,

      There have been half a dozen similar comments recently, and the thing they all have in common is not having the latest firmware in the X1 transmitters.

      So its not clear yet if there are still any issues when using the latest firmware, though as as Mike said the first thing you will need to do is update the X1T-N transmitter to V12.

      • JavierCropp 1 year ago

        Hi all:
        I have updated to v12 firmware my two xt1n (one version 8 and the other version 11).
        Now they both work flawlessly with xt16. Thank you!!!!
        The witstro 180 works in manual mode and I can change the power remotelly. No problem!
        I have just tried hss to 1/8000 and it also wors if I activate hss on the witstro with the two buttons mode. Great!
        Only one problem left: now the buzzer sound doesn’t work… it is not so important for me, but I can’t know if the flash is fully recharged when I fire it at full power…
        Thanks all!!

  18. Chris 1 year ago

    So I got my x1N T&R and it works flawlessly with my d800 and sb900.
    Sb600 fires but no power control. That’ll get chopped in for a godox 860vII!
    Still to test the little fella with the wistro 180 but it all feels really good. I think that s company have cornered use ability – cross platform – and price. Although I can’t wait to see an X1F (Fuji) trigger ……

  19. Mark Kitaoka 1 year ago

    OK I’m very confused and hope someone can help me. I have an X1-C and have purchased two XTR16 USB plug in receivers for my AD360s. I cannot find a way to assign different channels (not frequencies) to each AD360 using the X1C. Other than frequencies there doesn’t seem to be a way to do that like the FT16 transmitter. The only way to do this is to use Groups A-E which limits me to five lights. What am I missing? I’m currently running v11 firmware on the X1C.

    • Ulysses 1 year ago

      Mark, the X1 has channels and groups a CH and a GR button just as on the old FT16 transmitter. You have 32 channels, and you get to organize your lights into five groups. It should be just as straightforward as the old transmitters.

      That said, I believe there is a v12 firmware now available from the Godox website.
      https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.godox.com%2FCN%2FDownloads.html

      • Mark Kitaoka 1 year ago

        OK I must be really stupid! On the X1 I cannot find any adjustments other than the Channel button which changes the unit from 1-32. Then the groups from A-E. If I change the dip switches on the XTR16 USB units they must all be on the same frequency in order to fire. To change an individual AD360 in the old days I would simply ensure that the FT USB units were set by dip switches to the same configuration, then dial the power dial to the 1-9 or A-F indicator. On the FT16 to change power on one light I would simply alter the dial to the light I wanted to change for power and it would work fine. But on the X1 I cannot find out how to get into any mode which allows me to alter the light intensity of light 1, 2, 3. ..etc.

        • Ulysses 1 year ago

          Mark, ohhhhhhhh… I think I understand the problem now. You need to set the Channel and the Group in the AD360 itself so it can “hear” and respond to the corresponding Channel and Group on your X1 transmitter.

          Watch this video, which should show you. The four buttons immediately below the LCD screen correspond to the menu item above each button. One of those menu items should be “CH” for Channel, and another menu item should say “GR” for Group. If you don’t see those, then tap the button underneath “MENU” to expand the menu options.

          From there, you tap the strobe’s button for Channel, and then rotate the round dial to choose the Channel you need. Click the SET button select that Channel. Do similarly for your strobe’s Group. Now you should be all set for controlling the light’s power from your X1. 🙂

          • Ulysses 1 year ago

            Mark, it’s kinda like the AD360 has a built-in FTR16, but you still need to choose its Channel and Group assignment via the strobe’s menu system rather than dips watches and dial.

          • Ulysses 1 year ago

            Sorry, forgot the video link. Start from 2:27 and pay attention t the buttons she’s pressing.

            http://youtu.be/mr7XZRvw3uA

            • Mark Kitaoka 1 year ago

              Hey Ulysses,
              Thanks for all of this. If you watch the video it is for an AD360II not the one I have which is simply the prior model. So there are not adjustment buttons on the menu system for Channel and Groups. I have been using the method Peter outlined below, using groups A-E on the XTR16 units I have. In that way and that way only I am able to adjust the individual power of each AD360. So right now it appears that my only adjustments will be if I use five or fewer AD360s. Not that I plan to use more, but I was baffled about how to assign them by number.

              • Ulysses 1 year ago

                Awww man! Somehow I must have mis-read the model when you mentioned it in your initial post. Grrrr… sorry to have made you read through all of that. Perhaps Peter is on the right track below?

                Thinking out loud here: Do you need EACH of your lights to operate at a different power level? Otherwise, perhaps you could make more efficient use of the Groups feature.

                • Mark Kitaoka 1 year ago

                  Yes most of the time my lights are at different power levels no matter what the brand I’ve chosen to use for that job. Sometimes it’s only as minor as 1/2 stop and yes it drives my partner crazy. But because I can see/feel the difference it’s just the work flow I’ve adopted. It’s not too big of a deal, I doubt I will use more than five AD360s at one time on one job. I was just thinking that I don’t know my own equipment which for me is a big no no. And yes once the new XT16 is released I can use that, but in all likelihood I will use the X1 because I like the HSS of the AD600.

                  • Ulysses 1 year ago

                    I do get it. You like what you like, and you’ve got a workflow that supports your approach. We all have things like that in one area or another. 🙂

                    As a potential workaround: I wonder if you were using six or seven lights together, for example, could you group one or two sets of lights together — lights that you’d expect to be closest in power level. You could go very old school if you needed to fine-tune or trim one of the lights by simply moving it one ft or two. But you could have multiple lights, most of them on their own separate Group, with only a couple of them sharing a Group.

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                      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

                      As I mentioned further below, in a pinch you can always stack a second transmitter on top or the X1 pass through hotshoe. If you have the old FT-16 system you can always stack the FT-16 transmitter on top.

                      That provides HSS for all lights still as well as remote power control for lots of groups.

    • Ulysses 1 year ago

      Mark, just another thought… if you like the approach of the familiar old FT16 with its dip switches for Channel adjustment and dial for Group selection, you could always buy the inexpensive XT16 transmitter. 🙂

      • Peter 1 year ago

        … if only it were possible to buy them (yet)! 🙂

        So, Mark…

        * Set your channels the same (eg Ch 01 on the X1, and all switches down on the XTR16)
        * Set your XTR16 dial to one of A,B,C,D,E (the X1 doesn’t support any others, which kinda sucks), eg ‘A’
        * Scroll until the corresponding group on the X1 is in the middle of the display (eg ‘A’)
        * press GR (just press, don’t hold), power should flash
        * Use the wheel to adjust power
        * Press GR again to confirm
        * Flash unit should update.

        • Mark Kitaoka 1 year ago

          Thank you Peter, that’s how I’ve been doing it and just wondered if I am limited to five separate AD360s to control on an individual basis. See my comment to Ulysses above. Thanks again.

          • Peter 1 year ago

            Yep, 5 only, for whatever reason.

            I’m not really sure why they chose to limit it to that, there may be some OEM limits with TTL flash control and groups, but that shouldn’t affect manual power control.

            I guess they just decided it might be too confusing, so artificially limited it.

            I’ll be getting an XT-16 once they are available…

            • Ulysses 1 year ago

              In fairness, it’s rare for most systems to offer more than three. 🙂

              Nikon and Canon until recently, only three groups. Pocket Wizard only three groups. Phottix only three groups.

              • Mark Kitaoka 1 year ago

                Ulysses, I’m not arguing or complaining about only five groups. For my work five would be plenty. My concern was about the number of channels each light can be assigned. For instance the PCB Einsteins allow me to use up to 16 different lights using his Cybersync controllers. I generally use up to six different lights so sometimes it’s necessary.

            • Mark Kitaoka 1 year ago

              Thanks for taking the time to answer. I appreciate it.

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              Flash Havoc 1 year ago

              Yes its limited to 5 groups because Godox have followed the Canon GR group mode protocol. Nikon only offer 3 remote groups plus the master as you know.

              Things get complicated when you try to run more TTL groups than the original Canon or Nikon protocol provides for. Though it is possible Godox could likely add more manual only groups.

              If you want more than 5 groups with the X1 transmitter, at this stage you can always stack another one on top, and set that to a different channel, providing another 5 groups.

              Personally I prefer the X1 over the FT-16/XT-16 transmitter because the X1 allows you to turn groups on and off easily. That’s quite a pain with the FT-16.

              • Ulysses 1 year ago

                Elv, I forgot you’d mentioned the stacked X1 method for expanding groups. Interesting solution. So for one pair of stacked X1 transmitters, you’re saying Mark could have up to 10 controllable groups, each of them firing simultaneously?

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                  Flash Havoc 1 year ago

                  Yep, 10 total groups with two X1 transmitters.

                  You just have to try and keep track of which light is which as your doubling up on A,B,C,D,E groups.

                  • Mark Kitaoka 1 year ago

                    Thanks for all of this and I didn’t intend to start this much dialog! The reality is I probably won’t use more than five AD360s and if I do I’ll simply use the upcoming XT16 on top of the X1. My real concern is I had contemplated purchasing more AD600s. Right now I’d be limited to five light separate adjustments. I bought the AD600 for its HSS capabilities, for outdoor on location use.

                    I will continue to stick with my Einsteins for in studio usage. It gives me the option of up to 16 different lights and I can adjust those to my heart’s content. One thing Godox may want to consider is to upgrade the firmware on the X1 to add a channel zero 0. On my Cybercommander I can select a specific channel to control a light and then use his All to fire all.

                    • Ulysses 1 year ago

                      Not at all a problem, Mark. It was a fun exercise. 🙂

                      And I was reminded of some possible workarounds mentioned by Peter, Flash Havoc, as well as how I might approach things more simply myself. Maybe eventually if you get to try one or two of those methods, you’ll come up with something that works acceptably for you when required. 🙂

                      All the best. I’m glad you posed the question.

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                      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

                      If using the internal receiver on the AD600B/BM you’re limited to 5 slave groups anyway.

                      I guess you could use external FT-16 / XT-16 on any extra AD600 over the initial 5, though it would likely be easier as mentioned to just stack a second X1 transmitter on the camera.

                      That zero channel concept sounds like an interesting way of getting a secondary layer of group control for taking light meter reading etc.

                      Though I’m not sure using the channels like that is completely ideal, as Godox have already set some channels for lower interference etc.

                      I originally suggested a separate light meter mode, which you could quickly switch on and off, and would basically perform the same function, though that is one of the things Godox didn’t implement. (They did implement the global power adjustment and a number of other things though to their credit).

                      Soon or later Godox are going to need to produce a new transmitter, as the current one has basically outgrown its hardware limitations before it was even released. So hopefully this time with the help of Adorama we should be able to be involved from the beginning and actually develop something practical from the start, instead of working backwards like this all the time.

              • Peter 1 year ago

                Yeah good point about the power setting, very true.

                5 groups isn’t (generally speaking) a major limitation. But it is annoying when things are arbitrarily limited when the product they (sort of)replace could do it.

                Hell, I’d be ok to just get more groups in “single pin” mode.

                On a related topic, has anyone noticed double-flashing ?

                I’m seeing it when firing a V850 w/XTR-16s from an X1-N (v12)? I’m not talking TTL or preflash or anything. The X1is in single pin mode, and not being used on a nikon. The test button does not do it, but with the hotshoe I get two flashes – both from camera, and if I do it manually by shorting the X contact. One on connect, one on disconnect.

                The flash power has to be set low enough that the flash can fire twice quickly enough to see it.

                I haven’t tried any other combinations to know if it happens in other situations.

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                  Flash Havoc 1 year ago

                  Peter I just tried this with the same set up, and my original XTR-16s receivers are not producing the double fire.

                  I don’t have the updated receivers, so maybe this is a new bug that has been added with those. If anyone else can possibly confirm this we can forward it on to Godox as soon as possible. Thanks.

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                  Flash Havoc 1 year ago

                  Also does it still double fire if you switch off the single firing pin mode?

  20. Jimmy 1 year ago

    Does the new X1 system (and future 860C II) allow for multiple masters to control multiple slaves on the fly without having to press a “SET” button like on the FT16?

    One thing I enjoyed using the Canon 600 EX-RT system is that I could have two or more Canon 600EX set up on-cam in Master Group mode, but with different power settings of the various Groups (A, B, C, etc) controlling multiple off-cam 600EXs. I could shoot with both cameras (with 600EXs mounted) back and forth and my various off-cam 600EXs would respond instantly to each master 600EX as they fired, even if the power settings and modes of each Group (A, C, B, etc) are completely different.

    My experience with the Godox system is that you have to sync the transmitter and receivers by pressing the “SET” button on a FT16 transmitter to get the off-cam flashes (V850 w/FT16s, AD360 w/FT16 receiver) to sync with the appropriate transmitter each time, whereas the Canon system all syncs the moment you turn it on (even with multiple masters).

    Does Godox have a system that can do this yet? Can you use multiple X1 transmitters to control multiple slaves without having to manually sync it by pressing “SET” on each X1?

  21. Thomas Geist 1 year ago

    XT16 – no longer?

    It’s been very quiet around the XT16 (the transmitter). No where to be found on ebay or Adorama, not even on Godox’ Chinese website (at least I couldn’t find it there).

    I have Godox X1 and the oder FT16 and the XT16 is still something that appeals to me.

    But I wonder … did Godox maybe scrape that product?

    • Ulysses 1 year ago

      I’m hoping they’re simply aboard a very slow cargo ship and located in some undisclosed shipping container somewhere on the Pacific. 🙂

    • Joel 1 year ago

      I’ve been wondering the same thing. I have an X1S on order but I’d like an XT16 transmitter as backup/studio trigger but can’t find them ANYWHERE. I hate to hold on to the old triggers (and receivers) just as a backup.

  22. Joel 1 year ago

    Anyone know where I can acquire an FT16 transmitter? I know the X1 is better (have one on order) but I like the old interface if I’m just using manual flashes and no HSS.

    • Thomas Geist 1 year ago

      Adorama. Under their Flashpoint brand they actually have an improved version that also sports a mini jack connector.

    • alberto 1 year ago

      If you are in the states i have an extra set from Adorama still in the packaging i can sell you for less. I got 3 lights that came with 3 sets. Two of them I used and I already had an extra usb receiver, so I did not need to open the third one.

      You can message me at designguroo@gmail.com

  23. Javier 1 year ago

    Hi,

    I like a lot this site, full of info. Thanks for the work. Maybe you can help me with some doubts I have with this X1 system.
    At present I have an AD360 and some mix of flahes and triggers (FT16 and rf605 & rf602). Plan to buy a v850 and other ADxxx. I use only manual mode.
    I work with up to 3 group of flashes, (plus an on-camera (Pentax) TTL flash, using my PC-sync port to fire my transmiters at the same time). Some flashes can be controlled remotely (AD360), and others I just set up the needed power before the work. Once my flashes are set I can control (firing) groups in a very primitive way, using some mix of transmiters and receivers, with different channels and so, sometimes I need to fire two groups, sometimes only one… it’s a headache. But I want to simplify that, so I’m changing to use only simple rf605 transceirvers to controls groups easily, and as a second step migrating to godox flashes to control power remotely of all my flashes too.
    OK, now I have seen this X1 transmiter that can control groups and flash power remotely, so will be the simplest solution for me in a near future, and will substitute my rf605 for control groups.
    So question, can X1 control groups (power and firing) with the XTR receivers or only with the more sophisticated XR receivers ? Wanted to be sure.
    Old FT16s and rf605 can do the work, but liked to have only one receiver on my flashes.
    Forgot to mention… I have a Pentax camera, will X1-C/N work mounted on my hotshoe ? Or mounted on external hotshoe connected to my PC-sync port ?
    Thanks a lot.

  24. Nico 1 year ago

    I don’t get the differences between the X1 and the XT16 ?
    Both are 2.4Ghz, fire and manual power set XTR16s right ?
    So, which one is better ?

    • Ulysses 1 year ago

      Nico, if I recall, the X1 transmitter is able to transmit TTL signals for your Chen brand of camera. It also has an LCD readout for seeing at least three groups of settings at the same time.

      The XT16 transmitter is a simple single-pin transmitter for manual adjustment only. While you can control multiple groups, you can only “see” one group at a time as you change the dial and dip switches.

      Each style has its advantages and fans. 🙂

      • Nico 1 year ago

        Thanks Ulysses. I don’t care about TTL and prefer XT16 design, but you are right about displaying three groups at once. May be better while shooting to have better global reading of settings.
        Thanks

    • Thomas Geist 1 year ago

      For now you better just forget the XT16. They are nowhere available. Not ebay, not Adorama. One seller on Amazon, but I doubt they can deliver.

      • Ulysses 1 year ago

        I think I’ll just put a reminder on my iPad to inform me to check again for them once a month. LOL! I really would like one of the XT16 transmitters for my NON- Canon/Nikon/Sony cameras. They’re coming – eventually. 🙂

        • Thomas Geist 1 year ago

          You know … I really want some too. One of the things I just recently realized is how much the X1 cover my D750/D810’s top display.

          Very annoying!

          • Ulysses 1 year ago

            Yeah, I’ve been talking about that for some time now. Ever since the PocketWizard FlexTT5 I’ve had mixed feelings about this broad flattened format for the transmitter. The XT16 is taller, with more potential for accidental damage I suppose. But I haven’t had that happen yet, so I like its slim profile even though it’s a more limited transmitter.

      • Nico 1 year ago

        Yes, didn’t found it anywhere and even godox.com have nothing about it …
        XTR16s are also hard to find (my usual dealer doesn’t have it)

  25. Thomas Geist 1 year ago

    Looks like the XT16 will be superseded by the XT32 (see Godox’ Facebook page).

    I just wonder why they seem to have a brand designation since they don’t offer TTL. The one depicted is called XT32C (for Canon).

    Nonetheless they look good to me! I wonder about price and availability …

    • mmmfotografie 1 year ago

      They have a brand designation because for HSS you need to be brand specific and besides that there are physical difference’s on the hotshoe between brands.

  26. mmmfotografie 1 year ago

    Hold the presses! There will be no XT16 and instead there will be a XT32.

    Link in the next message.

  27. mmmfotografie 1 year ago
  28. Thomas Geist 1 year ago

    Just received a bunch of XT16S to use on my V850/V860 flashes.

    After testing with my X1N transmitters here is another reason why some of us might also want the XT32 transmitters:

    The X1 transmitters change the slaves’ power to the power set on a X1 whenever
    a) the power in M mode is changed
    b) a flash is triggered

    For anybody using two or more cameras (teams for instance) this can become problematic unless all the X1 are set to the same power. Otherwise constant power shifting will go on which renders the system pretty unusable.

    The X32 will hopefully continue the FT16’s legacy by NOT changing power when a flash is triggered.

    Or maybe a future custom function for the X1 will give us this option “do not change power on Manual groups when flash is triggered”.

    If the X32 will NOT act like that, some of us will have a problem.

    • Ulysses 1 year ago

      I’m thinking about your observations and trying to reconcile them. I’m sure I’m not quite understanding it as well as I should, mainly because I don’t have my own triggers to test.

      But I recall with the old FT16 transmitters and the FTR16 and FTR16S receivers, if two photographers were shooting, it was more practical for only ONE of us to control the power of the lights. The lights would fire at the power set by the most recent FT16 to have made a chance, and would fire at that power level all night regardless of the setting on the second photographer’s FT16, as long as this second FT16 didn’t request a change.

      That’s not what we wanted in practice. I much prefer the behavior of PocketWizards or the Phottix Odin in this respect: The remote power levels will change either a) when the power level is changed on the transmitter, or b) when a flash is triggered by EITHER of the Odins. In other words, if the two photographers are each at very different power settings, the remotes will obey at the correct power level requested by EITHER of the Odins. That’s what I want.

      So isn’t the X1 transmitter doing what I want? Thanks for clarifying. Because if things revert back to old FT16 behavior, I’m NOT going to be happy. It’ll be a bigger hassle to deal with than anticipated. For some reason, I thought I already knew the answer to this based on a previous discussion. 🙂

      • Thomas Geist 1 year ago

        Ulysses, I can’t speak for the Phottix system, but the PocketWizards always send a TTL signal to the slaves. Within this signal is the information “how much power”. Just as a camera with a TTL flash on top tells the flash how much.

        For the PWs it doesn’t matter if the MODE is manual – that just means the power will not be altered by anything but your setting. The signal will still be a TTL trigger with the power encoded.

        Hence even multiple shooters can have different power settings in their transmitters, each pop will have the correct power setting encoded.

        To sum it up the PWs actually don’t SET the slave to a certain power and then fire it, they send a signal that fires the flash with the correct power (or burst length to be precise).

        BTW that’s also how Nikon’s optical system works.

        Now the X1 from what I observed send out two discrete signals. One is a trigger pop, the other is a signal that sets the slave’s power. At least in conjunction with their XTR16S that’s how it works.

        That power setting signal is sent when you change the power setting on the X1 AND it’s sent when you fire.
        And the latter is the problem. You can actually observe that the slave first fires with the power it’s been formerly set to and only the NEXT consecutive pop will honor what the triggering radio has sent.

        Ugh … I might have to make a little video.

        I will need to see how TT685N flashes react in this case.

        But as we know, the FT16 never sends any power setting when it triggers a flash. It only sends this when you press the arrow keys.

        • Ulysses 1 year ago

          >> That power setting signal is sent when you change the power setting on the X1 AND it’s sent when you fire. And the latter is the problem. You can actually observe that the slave first fires with the power it’s been formerly set to and only the NEXT consecutive pop will honor what the triggering radio has sent. <<

          Hmmm… I understand better now. I wonder if this is the issue that's been described by others in the past. Thanks for the additional detail BTW. Your PocketWizard description matches up with what I saw when using those. It makes sense that you have to leave your flashes in TTL mode in their case.

          My guess is that the Phottix system operates similarly to PocketWizards when you place the master flash in Odin Tx mode and the remote flashes in Odin Rx mode. It's actually a version of TTL being transmitted so they can talk to one another. One clue to this being the case is that the Indra500 strobe itself must be left in TTL mode in order for you to remotely change its power, regardless of whether your Odin TCU or your Mitros+ master flash says it is controlling the Indra500 via TTL or Manual mode — the strobe is actually still communicating in TTL ON THE STROBE. So you're using a sort of hybrid or phaux-Manual mode if you choose to go manual.

          So I'm wondering if the X1 and the TT685 / V860 II are similar. Will be interesting.

        • Thomas Geist 1 year ago

          Ok, more research done now. Brace yourself this is a bit crazy.

          We are talking about the following items:
          – Godox V850 (Adorama Flashpoint version)
          – Godox XTR16S (Adorama Flashpoint version – brand new, just arrived)
          – Godox X1N-T Firmware 15
          – Godox TT685N Firmware 2.7

          When I change power for a group in M mode on the X1N-T, the V850/XTR16S will reflect this change.
          When I press the X1N-T’s Test button, the V850/XTR16S will pop and then reflect the X1N-T’s power setting right after that.
          When I have the X1N-T on a camera (Nikon D810 or D750) and press the shutter, there will ONLY be power changes if any group above is on TTL. Otherwise the slave will be triggered without any change in power.

          Example:
          The slave XTR16S is on Group C and on the X1N-T Group C is on M at 1/64, Groups A and B are set to –.
          Pressing the shutter will not change power on the slave.
          If however Group A or B would be on TTL, the slave would switch to the Group C power setting.

          This is only interesting for multiple cameras / users. For any other scenario this behavior doesn’t matter.
          For me me – at least I know how to get what I want.

          Now here is the not so good thing:
          If instead of the X1N-T a TT685 is on camera, a slave XTR16S/V850 for which the Group on the TT685’s is set to — (the V850 shows 0F in its display) will not come back on when the Group is turned back to M. Only changing the power and pressing SET on the TT685N will “wake” it up.

          This is not good behavior – in the heat of the action it can lead to problems.

          I have two V850II (the “R2” Adorama version) on order and I am curious how they will act.

          • Ulysses 1 year ago

            Thomas, my friend… this sounds complicated. LOL

            But I’m glad to see you’re testing these detailed scenarios because I have a feeling we work in very similar shooting situations and have similar needs.

            I don’t know if there is any reason to expect the V850/V860 II flashes to respond any differently than the TT685.

  29. Phil 1 year ago

    Hi,

    An obvious question, but one I can’t seem to find answered in the article: what’s the difference between the XTR16 and the XTR16s?

    Thanks

    • Ulysses 1 year ago

      The XTR16 is the receiver with a USB interface that plugs into the USB port on a AD360 or AD180.

      The XTR16S is the receiver with a proprietary interface that plugs into the port on a V850 or V860 flash.

      These receivers are essentially bridge devices between the new 2.4 GHz Godox systems and their older flashes. Several colleagues here are already using theirs with mostly positive results.

      • Phil 1 year ago

        Thanks. That’s very helpful.

  30. Jacob 1 year ago

    You mention uncertainty with regards to compatibility between the X1 trigger and these new 2.4GHz receivers with studio strobes and their unique power scale. Has this yet been tested? I have a couple DS300 strobes in the studio and I’d gladly ditch the second FT-16 power controller used solely for setting their power. If I use the same controller, switching back and forth between strobes and speedlights/Wistro resets the values making the system quite aggravating. A $40 transmitter+$20/ea (x6) on the receivers might be worth not having to carry around three transmitters (one for strobes, speedlights, and Cells-2 for high speed). I initially thought Godox was going to be the affordable option 😉 Thanks for all your info.

  31. Jimmy Ho 1 year ago

    Hi guys. I have the new X1C with XTR 16s transmitters and cannot get the transmitter to turn individual groups off reliably. Here is a link to a video showing the issue. This is with latest firmware 14, a Canon 5D3 camera, and Flashpoint Zoom Li-on (v850 equivalent). Any help would be appreciated.

    http://youtu.be/fwZeMCKYUXA

  32. alberto 1 year ago

    Adorama just got in their X1 and X16 trigger and receivers. The X1 trigger and receiver works great and it has firmware ver 15. The USB triggers for the manual AD360s. It’s kinda off. Every time you take a picture, it turns on the AF/lamp and when you just hit the “test ” button. All it does is turn on the lamp. It does not trigger the flash.

    I am trying to see if I can get some phone support. But must likely end up doing is returning everything and going to cheetahstand instead. It’s a more money but I got friend’s that already said theirs work fine. Sucks cause I wanted everything to be the same brand on this set of lights.

    • Thomas Geist 1 year ago

      Wow, I am surprised that Adorama’s quality control doesn’t seem to get things straightened out.

      As I reported earlier the XT16Rs (the ones for the Ving 850/860 light) have their issues as well. No show stoppers but also not perfect.

      • alberto 1 year ago

        Thomas, its why i waited till Adorama had their version in stock. I thought that they would have checked and double checked their version works flawlessly with at least their version of the AD360 Manual.

        I just tried Adorama and basically their lighting people haven’t even tested it yet. Good grief. I guess I’m calling Edward at Cheetahstand. A bit more, but at least I know he is there if I have a problem like this. Lesson learned.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 1 year ago

          Jeepers guys, I’m not sure why there is a difference / issue with the Flashpoint XTR-16 receivers, though the Flashpoint team are the ones that have been working their butts off for quite a while now to get all these refinements happening, I know because I’ve spent enough time on all this myself.

          The XTR-16 receivers would have only just come in recently, and again I’m not sure why they are any different to the earlier samples and have an issue now. [EDIT – unless this is just related to the V15 firmware].

          Thomas – sorry I haven’t had a chance to really get my head around the issues you mentioned (I don’t have the Flashpoint XTR-16s receivers to try yet though either).

          There are some quirks and differences in the way the XTR-16/S receivers have been reacting with the Canon and Nikon X1 transmitters. The Nikon X1-N sends the information more instantly. So I kind of expected there would be some refinements with this over time on the transmitter end.

          Will let the Flashpoint team know as well that there appears to be an issue with their XTR-16.

          • alberto cabrera 1 year ago

            I think the issue is the v15 firmware.

            Everyone I talked to so far has v14 on theirs and everything works. Seem Flashpoint is the only one with v15. I couldn’t even find v15 at the godox site yesterday.

            I tried talking to Adorama. But its has been a struggle to get an answer. After 2 hours of going back and forth trying to find someone that knew about the XTR16. I just gave up and packed everything in the box and shipped it out for a refund.

            • Author
              Flash Havoc 1 year ago

              That’s fine, that’s your choice. Though I think if you called me or anyone else they would be struggling to provide an instant answer on this anyway.

              For anyone else trying to contact Adorama make sure you ask to speak with the Flashpoint or Adorama Brands team directly. If emailing use the brands@adorama.com email.

            • Ulysses 1 year ago

              No, Adorama buyers aren’t the only ones with firmware v15. We CheetahStand users have it, too (I just confirmed). 🙂

              I have one or two odd problems, as well. For example:

              GEAR:
              Nikon D4S and D700
              X1T-N loaded into the hot shoe
              Old V850 with XTR16S receiver attached

              PROBLEM: My TEST button will not fire a test pop.

              DETAILS: The transmitter and receiver are communicating — I can fire a real shot with the camera’s shutter button. I can also see the tiny red light on the receiver confirming communication, as well as the BEEP I engaged via C.Fn-8 on the X1T-N transmitter.

              I’ve tried different camera bodies, different V850 flashes, and different XTR16S receivers. No joy.

              I’ve asked a couple other Nikon friends and colleagues about theirs, but they are not having this problem. As far as I know, they have firmware v14 on their X1T-N transmitters.

              • alberto cabrera 1 year ago

                Ulysses,
                Same thing happened on my AD360 flashes. But what it did do is turn on the AF/Lamp on the flash every time I took a picture or pressed the test button. I had 3 of them. All did the same. I thought Cheetah had the v14 because of their instructional video. So that’s maybe why I haven;t heard back from them, because I asked them if they were having the same issue before I bought their set.

                Seems like it maybe a v15 problem then.

                Havoc,
                I did not have much of a choice. When you buy gear, it’s suppose to work. If it doesn’t, you return it. I’m going away on a job for 3 weeks tomorrow. I do not have time to trouble shoot with them to find what’s wrong. If it was just user error on my part, then that would be another story.

                The majority of my gear is Flashpoint. Hell, all the gear I am taking on this job is Flashpoint. Trust me, I am not happy to return it. The reason I got it was to do HSS with my 360s. Seems I just have to skip that till I come back. Hopefully they have it figured out by then.

                • Author
                  Flash Havoc 1 year ago

                  Ok I got to try this with the Flashpoint transmitter and receivers, and it does appear to be an issue with the V15 firmware in the X1T-N transmitter.

                  I got the same result as Ulysses, there is remote power control, and the flash will fire when taking a shot via the camera, its just the test fire button which doesn’t fire the flash. I didn’t get the modelling light coming on when it shouldn’t so I’m not sure if that may be due to a different setting somewhere.

                  I have the same issue with the XTR-16s and V850 (as the XTR-16 and AD360).
                  .

                  Earlier firmware works fine with the X1T-N, and the Canon X1T-C appears to work fine even with the latest V14 (currently supplied with the Flashpoint X1T-C transmitter).

                  I also tried older XTR-16/s receivers with the X1T-N transmitter and they where the same result as the new Flashpoint receivers.

  33. Jason 1 year ago

    So I received my AD600 and it works great. I have two X1 transmitters for Nikon and have noticed a problem with the new V15 firmware. If you turn the beep on the AD600 on the new V15 firmware turns it off overtime you fire the flash. My other transmitter that still has V12 does not have this problem it leaves the beep turned on.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi Jason,

      Thanks for that. I think there are 3 options in the beep custom function, and I haven’t checked that out yet.

      The issue was originally with the older AD360 etc, you couldn’t turn or keep the beep on. The changes may have caused more issues though.

  34. Pedro Heshike 1 year ago

    Hi…HELP please…I had the manual AD360 and just recently purchase the AD600B with the X1-N (has V15 firmware)…in order to unify all my remotes I also purchase the XTR16 to used with my AD360…. I can change the power using one of the groups (A,B,C,D,E)but no matter what I do it seems that I can not trigger the AD3600 and I already tested with all the channels and groups too…when I press the test button on the X1-N the red led light on the XTR16 goes on…..so any ideas of whats going on will be appreciate it

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi Pedro,

      There is a new bug with the X1-N and V15 firmware, where the test fire button does not work with the XTR-16 receiver.

      If you mount the transmitter on the camera hotshoe though and fire the shutter, the flash should fire.

    • Ulysses 1 year ago

      Pedro, if your X1T-N has firmware v15, it might help you to know that some have reported that the TEST button will not fire the remote AD360 with an XTR16 receiver, even though you can make power adjustments with the X1T-N both in and out of the hot shoe.

      However, the AD360 should fire properly if you have the X1T-N loaded into the hot shoe of your Nikon camera.

      Something about firmware v15 broke a few minor features in the Nikon version of the X1T transmitter.

  35. Pedro Heshike 1 year ago

    Thanks for the promptly answers….yes indeed I tried with my D810 and the X1-N and only when the transmitter is mount in the camera the AD360 work and the flash trigger…that really an annoying bug since I am constantly using my light meter to check the power of the flash …..but well until Godox resolve the issue I may use the old FT16 if I am only using the AD3600 or test with the transmitter on the camera when using both AD360 and AD600…..I will kept on the looking here to see if anyone find a work around or Godox decide to fix the issue….Thanks a lot

  36. sergio garcia 1 year ago

    does any one have tried the hss on ad180 with x1 and trx16 receiver does it work?

  37. Randell John 1 year ago

    I received a XTR16 this morning to use in conjunction with my X1 C, AD600B and RS600P. I wasn’t sure if it would work or not as the RS600P isn’t mentioned in the specs.
    I’m pleasantly surprised I can now control both strobes power output from camera and it triggers both strobes in sync.
    The one thing which is peculiar though, is that if you set the X1 to power levels below 1/32 then I started getting spurious discharges from the RS600P, and the fan kicked on.
    Obviously something to avoid in the future, but I’m happy to put up with this glitch, rather than mount an FT16 on to the pass through hot-shoe of the X1.

  38. MoCh.ongor 1 year ago

    Hi Everyone,
    I just purchased a set of xtr16 receivers and one X1-N transmitter to control my two AD180’s.
    I have immediately upgraded the receiver’s firmware to v15, but it seems that the X1-N is acting only as a dumb trigger: it fires both my flashes irrespective of the group settings on the xts16 or X1-N and I am not able to set the power remotely.
    Do you have any recommendation or idea on what am I doing wrong?
    Thx!

    • Marko 1 year ago

      @MoCh.ongor: I’m not sure why you can’t adjust power, but I’ll write out the steps that should set everything (at least this works for me):
      0. Since all your flashes fire, I assume you already have all the receivers set to the same channel as the transmitter
      1. Check that your XTR16’s are set to the groups you want to control (turn the dial to either A, B, C, D or E)
      2. On your X1T-N set the group(s) you want to control to manual mode (not TTL or “–“)
      3. On your X1T-N, adjust the power output for each group

  39. Ian Cheung 1 year ago

    Using the X1-N and a XT16s plugged into a v850, can I control the zoom setting as well as the power setting? It’s not immediately obvious and I have tried valiantly to search the thread for mentions but failed.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi Ian,

      No you can’t control remote zoom setting through the XTR-16/s receivers unfortunately.

      Even using the X1T-N transmitter with V860II / TT685 the remote zoom function is basically limited to one global setting. So the remote zoom function is one thing that is pretty limited at this stage.

      • Ian 1 year ago

        Thanks for the replies everyone.

        Well that’s a pity. I have four v850s and 2 YN560-IIIs. The YN560-IIIs can be zoomed remotely via the YN560-TX. It’s even more surprising to hear that the v860II don’t have separate zooming function..

        • Ulysses 1 year ago

          Ian, I can confirm that there is no way to remotely zoom the old V850 flash. But this makes sense because this is a completely all-manual flash. Almost all of its many and varied functions need to be initiated directly on the flash interface itself rather than remotely.

          However, the V860II (CheetahStand V860X) is a different story. You can definitely remotely change the zoom on your slave speedlight. First place the flash into Auto Zoom mode:
          – press the speedlight’s Zm button
          – turn the dial down until the zoom setting reads “A Zoom – – -”
          – press the SET button

          Now on your X1 transmitter:
          – go to C.Fn 02.
          – press the GR button
          – dial up or down to change the zoom focal length. You will hear and see the speedlight adjust its zoom.
          – press the CH button to get out of the C.Fn menu

          As the Flash Havoc mentioned, this seems to be a global zoom affecting all your remote speedlights regardless of their group assignments. But it does work.

          • Author
            Flash Havoc 1 year ago

            Ulysses, what about using the V860II as the master interface, do they have multiple group remote zoom control yet by any chance?

    • Alberto 1 year ago

      The v850 does not zoom btw.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 1 year ago

        The V850 should zoom when set directly on the flash. (Unless its broken).

        • Ulysses 1 year ago

          Confirmed. The old V850 has a Zoom button on the back, which is for zooming manually via the flash controls. There is no ability to control the zoom remotely.

          • Alberto 1 year ago

            Ah. Okay. Sorry my bad. Never even knew it was there and I owned 3 of them. Always had them on a tri bracket for my parabolic.

        • Ulysses 1 year ago

          >> Ulysses, what about using the V860II as the master interface, do they have multiple group remote zoom control yet by any chance? <<

          That's a very interesting question. So I went to check. I placed a CheetahStand V860X (firmware v1.2) as the master in the hot shoe of my Nikon D4S. I have two slave V860X speedlights, one on group A and the other on group B.

          Checking the zoom interface, it only seems to control the zoom of the on-camera flash rather than the slave remotes. That's a little bit disappointing, but not unexpected. So the X1 transmitter has an advantage in that area as it seems to be the only transmitting device in the system that can remotely control the zoom level of the V860II.

          • Author
            Flash Havoc 1 year ago

            Thanks for checking this Ulysses.

            I would say this is another one for the future firmware update list.

  40. Josh 12 months ago

    I just received my mine in the mail today and it will not communicate with either of my 860V or AD360 flashes. I have tried every possible group and channel combo and nothing works. I am pretty annoyed. $50 for a DOA trigger.

  41. Michael 12 months ago

    Just ordered the XT16 and two receivers vor my two 850 in case I want to add another V850II in the future or even one of the bigger lights. But am I correct in assuming my old FT16s trigger wont be able to talk to the new receivers because of the different radio band? Would have been cool If I could keep using it as a remote while having the new trigger on camera but I guess thats not technically possible. Still thanks a lot for your 2.4GHz overview post I was completely lost with what can trigger what now. Seems Godox really made it work. As someone who doesn’t care a bit about TTL and just wants reliable remote manual flashes I hope they keep the system alive like this giving people the option and don’t start incorporating TTL in all units. The FT 16S with the V850 is the most amazing simple, no bullshit combo I have ever used and I’m very happy with it.

  42. Chris Bergstrom 12 months ago

    Any news about when the X1F for Fujifilm will be released? I see a flashpoint version on adorama but no news on Godox’s website. Thank you.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 12 months ago

      Hi Chris,

      Godox were aiming for possibly early next year (2017).

      It may sound like a long time away, though they still have a lot of loose ends in the Canon / Nikon / Sony system. Godox are making a big task for themselves trying to keep all this gear compatible.

  43. Joe 11 months ago

    How does the XTR16 work with studio strobes? I’ve set the XTR16 channel to 1, the XTR16 rotary dial to A (I’m assuming this corresponds to group A) and the X1T-S to channel 1. The XTR16 is plugged into a Godox QT-600. But there is no communication between the X1T-S and the XTR16, because the XTR16 LED light does not come on when settings are changed on the X1T-S, or when the TEST button on the X1T-S is pressed. Does anyone know what should be done to get these devices communicating properly?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 11 months ago

      Hi Joe,

      The LED light on the XTR16 should flash a couple if times when you press the test fire button on the transmitter.

      (The strobe needs to be switched on to get power to the XTR16 receiver though).

      If you’re sure you have the channel set right, then you could possibly have a faulty receiver. You may need to check the firmware on the X1T-S transmitter though as well, as there have been compatibility issues at times.

      • Joe 11 months ago

        Thanks for your reply. I have managed to get it firing by moving all four channel switches on the XTR16 to the down position. I would have thought that would result in the number zero but maybe that is number one. So even though the XT1-S is now triggering the QT-600 via the XTR16, it cannot adjust the QT-600 power or control the QT-600’s modeling lamp. The rotary dial on the XTR16 seems to have no effect, because I’ve tried moving it to every single position, yet the XT1-S still can’t control the modeling lamp or the strobe power.

  44. Chris 10 months ago

    This site has been so instrumental in my research, I really appreciate it’s existence and everyone who contributes to these discussions.

    I’m about to order a Godox X1Ts and two TT685s units for my Sony A7ii and A6300. But I also have the non-ttl, manual only AD360.

    Until now I’ve been using the AD360 with the 433 mhz FT16 clip on receiver in a Nikon/Yongnuo setup, but I don’t think the original FT16 works with the 2.4 Ghz X1Ts trigger.

    Now I’m pretty confused because I’m not sure what I need to combine the AD360 with my X1Ts and TT685s.

    I *thought* I just need an XTR16, to replace the original FT16 and take sync from the X1Ts. But then I saw there is also an XTR16s. Since the AD360 is manual without any TTL, I don’t think I need a Sony version of the clip on, but now Im also a bit confused about the XT16 trigger.

    So there is XT16, XTR16, and XTR16s. If I already have an Xt1s for my Sony, what exactly do I need to sync the manual version AD360? Do I really need the XT16 trigger sitting on top of the X1Ts, or won’t the XTR16 clip-on take commands directly from the X1Ts? And do I need the XTR16 or XTR16s? I am not really sure what each one is for.

    Please help as I’m waiting to make a purchase while its finally in stock locally.

    • CyberDyneSystems 7 months ago

      The X1 will trigger the AD360 manual version via the new 2.4Ghz USB dongle called the XTR-16

      That’s all you need.

  45. junio 9 months ago

    Hello to all,
    I have 2 Godox AD600 with X1n trigger. Does anyone know if, with a XTR16 receiver, I can remotely control the power of a flash Godox model QS400?
    Thanks so much

  46. nixland 8 months ago

    I use X1c on my 5Dii. I cover the ttl pin si that X1 can be set to Gr mode. It works ok with V860ii.
    BUT X1 can not turn off the V860 version one with XTR16s. It can change the power setting, but if I set the group to off (–), the flash still firing. Why ?

  47. Kevin 6 months ago

    Would the XT16 product trigger the AD360ii TTL flash directly with out having to use the USB receiver please?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 months ago

      Hi Kevin,

      I don’t actually have an XT16 transmitter (as they weren’t available for quite some time), though they really should work directly with the flashes having built-in 2.4GHz receivers. The XT32 transmitter works with XTR-16/s receivers, so it would have to work the other way around with the XT16 transmitter as well.

  48. Tony 4 months ago

    I am with sony a6300. I have tt350s with x1t-s and i want to combine it with my 3 flashes de300. Would they work with XTR-16 or should i buy XTR-16s.

  49. Mumin 4 months ago

    Hi,i have godox tt685c and godox ad600bm, i use them with x1t-c with no problem with canon.i also want to use them with my fujifilmx100f,as i know the new 2.4ghz godox xt16 have the single pin.if i buy one of them,will i need receiver units ft16r and ft16r-s for the tt685c and the ad600bm or they already have built in 2.4ghz receivers ,the xt16 will trigger them without receivers clipped on them?thank you very much

  50. burndawg 2 months ago

    Can someone please tell me how to set the channel on the XTR16 using it with the x1-n ??

    It’s confusing for me,.. if all switches on the xtr16 ar set in the same direction and on the x1-n is set to channel 1 it’s working. If for example I only flick up the channel 3 on the xtr16 and set the x1-n to channel 3 as well nothing is working,.

    I am pretty confusing now . Maybe someone can help me out. It’s would be pretty bad shooting only in 1 channel using xtr16 and and the x1-system !

    thanks !

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 months ago

      Hi Burndawg,

      If you have a look at page 4 of the XT-16 manual here there is a chart showing the corresponding dip switch positions for each channel number.

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