ORLIT – RoveLight RT 610 TTL – Cordless Strobe Released!

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

 

Adorama have released the first Canon RT, AND Nikon compatible, TTL and HSS enabled 600Ws cordless strobe, in the new ORLIT RoveLight RT 610 TTL!

The RoveLight RT 610 are Adorama’s much anticipated version of Jinbei’s HD 610 Lithium-ion powered TTL strobes. Including all of their features, as well as adding direct compatibility with Canon’s own 2.4GHz RT radio system. All in the one strobe.

Once again the RT 610 should provide a major breakthrough for the many Canon based professional wedding and event photographers wanting to expand their flash system with larger off camera strobes, while retaining the well refined original Canon RT speedlites as their on-camera master unit.

Nikon owners are not left out though, as the Orlit RT 610 still provide the original Jinbei / Orlit 2.4GHz RF radio receiver modes for both Canon and Nikon DSLR systems.

And Adorama will also have there own RT compatible master and slave enabled speedlites in the Orlit RT-600C. As well as a Nikon version Orlit 600N coming.

 

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

 

As the “RoveLight” branding indicates, the Orlit RoveLight RT 610 are also the follow up to Adorama’s very popular original Lithium-ion powered fully cordless Flashpoint RoveLight 600B.

(Due to their significantly upgraded radio system, there is relatively limited backward compatibility between the 2 lights though. More on that further below).

Significant upgrades from the original RoveLights include –

 

  • TTL Modes for Canon and Nikon
  • Direct Canon RT radio compatibility
  • Pulsing HSS Mode allowing shutter speeds to 1/8000 (down to 1/32 power)
  • Group control for up to 5 Groups A / B / C / D / E / F
  • Short Flash Duration (Freeze Mode) down to 1/19000s
  • Full power recycle time of just 2.3 seconds (down from 3.5 seconds)
  • Manual power levels down to 1/256th, with fine 0.1 stop graduations
  • More powerful 20 watt, 3200K, LED modeling lamp
  • Large full color LED display and simple user interface
  • USB port for firmware updates
  • Integrated handle and refined swivel mount

 

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

 

The Orlit RT 610’s 14.8V 6000mAh Lithium-ion battery provides around 450 full power pops per charge, with 2.3 second full power recycle time.

Manual power control is from full power down to 1/256th, and adjustable in full or 0.1 stop increments.

The large full color LCD interface displays the power levels as 0.1 – 0.9. And simply pressing the main dial allow fast full stop adjustments.

Up to 6 Groups are provided, A / B / C / D / E / F. Though this will depend on the transmitter units used.

The interface also provides a fast and simple menu system.

 

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

 

ORLIT ROVELIGHT RT 610 FEATURES

 

  • 600Ws (Guide N0. 67M – ISO 100, Supplied 5.5″ Reflector)
  • Fan Cooled (Auto)
  • 20W LED Modelling Light (3200K), Manual & Proportional
  • Bowens S-type Accessory Mount
  • Built in (removable) 14.8V / 6000mAh Lithium-ion Battery
  • Over 450 Full Power Pops Per Battery Charge
  • 0.01 – 2.3 Seconds Recycle Time
  • Flash Modes – TTL / M
  • HSS to 1/8000th (Down to 1/32 Power)
  • Second Curtain Sync
  • Manual Flash – 1/256 – 1/1 Output (1/10th Increments, 9 Stop Range)
  • Flash Duration Freeze Mode (t0.5) – 1/800s – 1/19000s
  • Flash Duration Normal Mode  (t0.5) – 1/800s – 1/8000s
  • Canon RT compatible 2.4GHz Radio Receiver Built-in
  • Range – Depending On Transmitter
  • Groups – A / B / C / D / E / F
  • 16 Channels
  • Orlit / Jinbei 2.4GHz Radio Receiver Built-in
  • ETTL & ITTL Radio Slave Modes
  • Range – 300m + with TR-611 / TR-612 as Transmitter
  • Groups – A / B / C / D / E / F
  • 16 Channels
  • Supports Legacy TRS-V / TR-A6 Trigger System (No Group Control)
  • Supports Legacy TRS Trigger System (Limited function)
  • Optic Slave Mode
  • Large Color Dot Matrix LCD Display
  • Custom Functions
  • Auto Memory Function
  • Sound Prompt
  • Battery Level Indicator
  • Auto Power Off (After 60 Minutes)
  • Mini USB Port for Firmware Upgrades
  • 3.5mm Sync Port
  • Dimensions – 355 x 117 x195mm
  • Weight – 2.4kg (3.0kg With Battery)

 

 

The Orlit RT 610 provide an S-type accessory mount, and a fan cooled 20 watt LED modeling lamp (equivalent to 100 watt halogen), with warm 3200K color temperature to help match halogen bulbs.

The Modeling light provides manual control in fine 0.1 increments across a 9 stop range, or proportional control adjusting automatically to match the strobes manual power level.

Remote control from the Orlit transmitter unit is limited to turning the modelling light ON and OFF (via individual group though, and using Manual or Proportional modes).

 

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

 

The Orlit RT 610’s 14.8V 6000mAh Lithium-ion battery provides around 450 full power pops per charge.

And now includes a built in charge level indicator.

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

 

And an AC power adapter for mains power use will also be coming.

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

 

 

Compatible transmitter units for the Orlit RT 610 when used in RT radio mode include all of Canon’s own RT enabled master units, like the 600EX-RT II flash, and ST-E3-RT transmitter.

Though Orlit also offer their own transceivers for Canon and Nikon, in the TR-611C, and TR-612N.

The Canon version TR-611C providing both Canon RT, and Orlit / Jinbei 2.4GHz RF Canon radio modes.

The Nikon version TR-612N providing Orlit / Jinbei 2.4GHz RF Nikon radio mode.

 

ORLIT TR-611C

 

The Orlit TR-611C, and TR-612N both provide 3 flash groups A / B / C, and allow TTL and Remote Manual Groups to be mixed together, and turned off individually as needed.

Remote zoom control for speedlites is also available by group.

The hotshoe on top of the units when used as transmitter mounted on the camera provide full TTL pass through for a flash mounted on top.

Radio range is specified as up to an impressive 300 meters.

(Note – Remote Modelling light control is only available in the RF modes, not RT Mode).

 

ORLIT TR-611C

 

The Orlit TR-611C, and TR-612N transceivers can also act as receiver units.

And these can also be used to simply fire other strobes in combination with the Orlit lights, or even fire and control compatible TTL speedlites.

 

 

 

For current owners of the original FlashPoint Rovelight the Orlit RT 610 do provide a legacy TRS radio transmission mode compatible with the RoveLight TRS transmitter.

Though selecting the TRS mode does not then allow any group control ability (basically reducing the Orlit RT 610’s functionality to that of the original RoveLights)

JINBEI HD 610

 

So the legacy TRS mode is quite limited, and its likely original RoveLight owners will find more useful work arounds which do not lose group control with the Orlit RT 610.

These would mainly involve firing the original RoveLights via an external receiver unit, attached to the flash via PC sync cord. And using the original TRS transmitter just to control the original RoveLights power levels.

 

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

 

The Orlit Rovelight RT 610 are supplied with a nice semi-hard padded case, and shoulder strap.

And include a compact 5.5″ reflector, battery charger, and a long coiled PC sync cord.

 

ORLIT_RT_610_13a640

 

ORLIT ROVELIGHT RT 610 SPECS

 

Model
Orlit RT 610
Product Type
Studio 600ws TTL Lithium Battery Monolight
Guide number
201GN @ ft ISO 100
Maximum power
600ws
Wireless receiver
Built-in Orlit 2.4GHz
Channel / Group
CH: 00-15 / GR: A/B/C/D/E/F
Flash power variation
M: 1.0 9.0 / HSS: 4.0-9.0 / TTL: 3.0EV 1 f-stop / 0.1 f-stop increment
Recycling time
2.3s at full power
Flash mode
M / TTL mode
Sync modes
Normal / HSS / Freeze
Flash duration (t0.5)
NOR: 1/800s-1/8000s / FREEZE: 1/800s-1/19000s
Color temperature
NOR: 5500 K 150 K / FREEZE: 5500 K 800 K
Modeling lamp
20W LED, Proportion / Independent mode
Power source
Lithium battery / DC14.8V 6000mAh
Battery capacity
Up to 450 times at full power
Battery life
300 charge cycle (to 80% capacity)
Auto power off
After 60 minutes / Sleep activated after 10 minutes
Voltage stabilization
1%
Infra-red sensor
Built-in infra-red sensor
Sync socket
3.5mm
Sync voltage
DC6.5V
Thermal Protection method
Auto shutoff temperature sensor circuit
Operating room temperature
32 -104 F / 0 – 40 C
USB firmware update support
Yes
Weight
5.0 lb /2.3Kg (without battery)
Dimensions
14.0 x 4.6 x 7.7 in / 355 x 117 x 195mm)

 

 

The Rovelight RT 610 are also just the start of the Orlit radio flash system.

Along with the compatible Orlit RT-600C, and Nikon version 600N speedlites, Adorama intend to have compatible 600Ws and 800Ws AC powered TTL and HSS enabled studio lights available by mid year (2017).

All working directly with the Canon RT radio system, or Orlit’s own 2.4GHz RF radio system for Canon and Nikon.

 

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

There is also a transmitter, and Apple and Android smart phone apps coming (around mid year), to control the whole system in the studio.

The AC strobes above even have clever changing color coded LED tabs to identify which strobe is set to each group.

ORLIT - QR-A6

 

The TR-Q6 wireless studio remote will link the camera and apps together.

 

ORLIT RoveLight RT 610

 

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The ORLIT RoveLight RT 610 TTL strobes are available for pre-order now from Adorama for $699.95 with transmitter.

 

Individual TR-611C, and TR-612N transceivers are also available for pre-order.

As well as the Orlit RT-600C Speedlite for Canon.

 

Orlit – Website

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61 Comments
  1. Tony Meador 1 month ago

    This looks like it could be a real winner with a well thought out system. Pretty much everything I have on my wish list – from AC adapter to smart phone app. Maybe Adorama will give Flash Havoc readers an introductory price like they did the original Rovelights? =D

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Tony,

      They’re already throwing in the transmitter :-)

      Adorama managed to get a sample sent over a few days ago, and so far the TTL and HSS are working very well as a slave to the Canon 600EX-RT and ST-E3-RT. So in that regard I think they are a winner. Its a huge advantage to Canon RT system owners.

      The TR-611C transmitter works well in RT mode as well, though the interface is not as nice as the ST-E3-RT etc.

      UPDATE – TTL is very consistent when using the Canon RT units as transmitter.

      Though on further testing the TTL is a little inconsistent at times when using the TR-611C as transmitter in RT mode on the Canon 6D, and more inconsistent with an older camera like the 7D. The Canon RF mode is more consistent with the 6D, though not working properly at all with the 7D.

      The Nikon TR-612N just arrived so I haven’t had a chance to try that yet.

  2. Daniel 1 month ago

    The specs on this look sooooo good. I’m curious, what does one do for repairs? Does Adorama service or do they become expensive paperweights when something goes wrong? I’m tempted to buy into a system like this (or Godox and the like) but I’m held back by the support or lack thereof.
    Thanks!

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Daniel,

      Yes its an impressive flash.

      Regarding the servicing, the flash comes with a 2 year warranty to start with, though your best bet is likely to go with extended warranty, and even drop and spills cover to look after damage.

      Adorama do have something of a connection with a repair center, though I really don’t know what services would actually be available in that regard when needed. Probably best to speak to the Adorama brands team directly about that – brands@adorama.com

      For any technical advice, again you can always as to speak directly with the guys in the brands team, or email – brands@adorama.com

  3. Dan B 1 month ago

    hmmm…. this or the Xplor 600 TTL

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Dan,

      For people that need the Canon master flash, I think the choice is pretty well made.

      I actually sent Godox an email yesterday regarding this post, and hoping they may provide something at least for plans to refine the V860II. Though no reply at this stage.

      The one thing I personally think makes it a tough decision is the lack of any remote head option for the RT 610. I think its a big advantage to have that option still with the XPLOR. That doesn’t stop people buying the Profoto B1 etc though.

      The other thing again I would like to see a compact cordless 360Ws strobe for the system. Both companies need that though.

      • Mark 1 month ago

        I use 6 AD360s and I do not miss my Einsteins one bit.
        They are light and powerful and easily get even demanding jobs done. I do agree that it would be great to have the battery and strobe integrated as setup time would be nearly zero.

      • George 1 month ago

        @flashhavoc that is exactly what I was thinking!

        Why do they only offer 600ws versions?

        I would be very interested in 250-300ws monolights which can mount properly on modifiers, unlike their ad360, ad200, etc.

        They should offer a complete lineup ie 200, 300,400, etc of power outputs at different price levels.

        Right now, having to choose between the ad600 and the, frankly gadgety looking ad360, which sell for almost the same amount of money, is not exactly great.

  4. Jesse Patterson 1 month ago

    Right when I sell all of my Canon 600s to get all Godox gear. I’ll have to stay off this site if I want to save money, lol.

  5. bob 1 month ago

    surely this is just this rebadged? http://flashhavoc.com/jinbei-hd-610/

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Bob, the second line of the post states they are based on the Jinbei HD 610, though with added Canon RT compatibility.

  6. Don 1 month ago

    Oh my god! Instant pre order. Flash, are you able to verify if the strobe works with the Yongnuo ST E3 please? Thanks.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Don,

      I just gave it a try now, and the short answer is mainly no unfortunately.
      .

      The long answer is the YN-E3-RT would not link up with the RT 610 strobe at all on its own.

      Though I was able to link up the flash by starting the original Canon ST-E3-RT first, and then turning on the YN-E3-RT. In that case the YN-E3-RT appears to work ok, though as soon as I turn off the ST-E3-RT, the link is lost with the YN-E3-RT as well.

      So in one sense this was still useful as I could use the ST-E3-RT on a 6D etc, and at the same time use the YN-E3-RT on a 7D (which still provides GR mode on the pre 2012 camera).

      But I have to remember to switch the YN-E3-RT off every time before using the ST-E3-RT, otherwise that won’t fire. And in general bump starting the ST gear like this is quite likely going to run into an issue somewhere.

      The YN-E3-RT transmitter I have is the pre-mid 2015 model, so still on V1.16 firmware. So there may also be a slight chance the later transmitters may have more luck.

      .
      I can’t get the YN600EX-RT to link with the Orlit RT 610 flash at all. Having the ST-E3-RT switched on at the same time does change the YN600EX-RT link indicator color, though the Orlit is still not responding to the master flash at all.
      .
      UPDATE – Adorama are looking into what they can do about YongNuo compatibility from their end. Nothing is guaranteed though, so don’t count on this.

      • Luvnish 4 weeks ago

        That is very strange. I was completely sold until I read that the YN-E3-RT doesn’t work. Maybe a firmware update can fix this? Probably not even worth it for Yongnuo to do this, but would be worth it for Orlit to do it?

        My question: Is there any hope for it to work in the future?
        Should I just get a Canon ST-E3-RT?
        Sell all the Canon/Yongnuo stuff and get Orlit Mono and speedlites?
        Maybe go with a full XPLOR system?

        Everyday some cool new flash releases and leaves me with more questions than answers.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

          Hi Luvnish,

          Actually Adorama contacted me this morning and want to try and see what they can do about YN-E3-RT / YN600EX-RT compatibility from their end.

          I really don’t know what will come of that though so I don’t want to get peoples hopes up.

          • Luvnish 4 weeks ago

            Thanks for the update! Ideally I would like for the YN-E3 to work but worst case I will just buy a Canon Unit, these are proven to work correct?

            Also, if I need to use a 600 as master, while I do have a YN600 I also have the Canon 600EX as well so that’s a non issue. If using a canon 600EX or Canon ST-E3 as master, will the YN600 work as normal as a slave along with the RT610?

            • Author
              Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

              Yes the Canon ST-E3-RT, and 600EX-RT are working well as masters / transmitters to the RT 610.

              And yes the YN-600EX-RT works fine as an RT slave alongside the Orlit RT 610, or RT 600C speedlites used as RT slaves (to the original Canon maste units).

              The other transmitter option is simply to use the TR-611C transmitter supplied. The TTL is a little inconsistent with my 7D, though the 6D it seems reasonably good. I’d have to check the 5DIV again.

              I don’t like the TR-611C user interface much, though some people may be more patient with it. The display is actually a bit larger and easier to read than the Pixel King Pro (though accessing groups easier via the rear buttons has not been updated like the King Pro).

              • Luvnish 4 weeks ago

                The TR-611C transmitter can sync with the YN600 and Canon 600EX flashes as slaves?

      • Jeffrey 4 weeks ago

        Do you plan on putting together a review of the flash, along with the RT functionality with the included transmitter vs Canon transmitters?

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

          Hi Jeffrey,

          I’m caught up with some other large projects at the moment so it may be while before I can do more full reviews. I am working towards doing more reviews eventually though, and hopefully better than previously.

          The TR-611C transmitter are not particularity great even by Adorama’s own admission. They are even considering possibly designing a new one with Jinbei (as we have been working on with Godox currently).

          I think the main additional features are –

          – Modelling light control – On / Off (Must switch to RF mode each time to use)
          – Second Curtain Sync
          – Gr style interface with pre 2012 cameras (3 groups)
          – TTL pass through hotshoe on top
          – Up to 300M range (untested).

          Though the TR-611C user interface is not ideal. I could be wrong though I think for that reason alone most people will prefer to use the Canon ST-E3-RT unless one of the above features is really needed.

          The TTL consistency is not great on my 7D though, so that makes the pre-2012 Gr style interface feature not of much use. (TTL consistency is better on my 6D etc).

          Where the Canon transmitters where just consistent straight away on all the cameras, and the user interface is familiar and straight forward.

          The range of the TR-611C (and possibly even the RT-600C speedlite as master) could be interesting though, as the King Pro can go around twice the range of most TTL radio triggers. That could be handy at times if it proves to work with the RT radio system as well.

          (After seeing the TR-611C/612N, I can see they are not made by Pixel btw, though they are most definitely based closely off the King Pro format, nobody can deny that).

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Just out of interest I had to bump start the Shanny transmitter in exactly the same way as mentioned above with the YongNuo unit.

      If you get the orders wrong though it basically locks up the strobes radio communication and everything needs to be switched off and rebooted to get things working again.

  7. alberto 1 month ago

    Flash Havoc, If you can, when you get your sample. Would you mind doing a comparison between the AD600 to this strobe. They seem to be competing in the same market and it would be interesting to see which would be the better strobe for about the same money.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Alberto,

      I have the flash here, and I’ll see what I can do. Apart from the obvious (RT compatibility, vs larger Godox system etc) its likely going to come down to the small details which may suit some people more than others.

  8. Chris 1 month ago

    Like Don, I am interested if this will work with the YN-E3-RT and YN-600EX-RT flash units.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Chris,

      Please see my reply to Don above, thanks.

  9. Wade 1 month ago

    I wonder if the Orlit system will work with the original Jinbei remotes, etc… I’ve been looking at the Jinbei HD610 for a while, but if I can get something that is a bit closer, should I ever need repairs. Since I’ve already invested into the Jinbei systems…

    Are you able to test out the original Jinbei remotes TR-a6 or TR-a611/612 with this to see if they work?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Wade,

      Sorry I don’t have the original Jinbei transmitters at the moment to confirm, though I think its highly unlikely that they wouldn’t work, because the system all has to work together with the new Jinbei RT speedlites etc as well.

      The Jinbei transmitters or HD 610 don’t have the Canon RT though (at least at the time of writing this).

  10. Bill Walters 1 month ago

    Guys,
    See a short demo of this light here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwWeV5QG58Y

  11. Steven M Waldstein 1 month ago

    Very interesting. I have a couple of AD360 II-C that I use with the X1T-C /S trigger but I also have one Phottix Laso that I use on the hotfoot to make it Canon RT compatible which works really well. I’ll have to decide if I want to have just Canon RT if I buy this or keep with Godox and get TTL & HSS with both my Canon and Sony Alpha systems. These are hard choices but it’s great that the options are multiplying.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Steven,

      I checked with Jinbei and they hope to have Sony compatibility after the Chinese NY holidays.

      I wouldn’t rely on that timing, though the point is they are working on Sony compatibility, and it will be implemented via a firmware update at the strobe end. The transmitter would be a separate Sony version of course.
      .

      As you mention the the AD360II-C and Laso receiver are one of the main other RT option (and the best (only) compact option at the moment), though the one possible problem is that there is no guarantee they will remain compatible with future firmware changes (from Godox, Phottix or Canon).

  12. Author
    Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

    UPDATE – A bit sad to say the 610 does not have the same power as the old RoveLight (HD 600).

    They are about the same as the XPLOR 600, if not a few tenths less, depending on modifier.

    So between 2/3rds and a stop behind the original RoveLight. Some of that is likely due to the flash tube recessed into its own reflector on the original RoveLight.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

      Just to add, in HSS mode the RT 610 does provide up to half a stop more light than the XPLOR. Though that’s also because the RT 610 has more gradient. So that gain is not over the entire flame.

      For Long Duration Sync, both strobes require an external radio receiver attache via PC sync cord to bypass the strobe automatically going into pulsing HSS mode. The TR-611/612 have no timing adjustment, so Godox, YongNuo, Phottix etc triggers are needed if you want to refine the results for more power.

    • alberto 4 weeks ago

      FH, I really appreciate you looking into the difference with the xplor. I see a few things I like about this new strobe. But I think the best part is Adorama is providing some reasonably priced lighting solutions. Between this and the Flashpoint system you can’t go wrong.

  13. Spencer 4 weeks ago

    I have the original RL600 with Nikon. Will the new Nikon remote at least let me see what flash output I’m at in trs mode?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

      Hi Spencer,

      No it won’t unfortunately. That capability is simply not built into the RL600 / Jinbei HD600.

      Also the new TR-611C, and TR-612N don’t actually have any TRS mode, so they can’t fire the RL600 at all (unless you mount the TRS transmitter on top or the TR-611/612).

      The later Jinbei HD600V strobes do have the ability to display their power levels at the transmitter end, though you need the TR-A6 transmitter to do that. And there is no group control then with either the HD600V or HD610 when used in A6 (TR-A6) mode.

      Adorama would certainly have liked Jinbei to work with them on a transmitter to help bridge the 2 RoveLights (and I had some long and frustrating discussions with Jinbei on this as well), though they have basically moved on now to developing the 610 range, so it is what it is now.

      For the RL600 alone the TR-A6 transmitter will at least now provide the HSS signal and remote power control in the one transmitter unit. So the TR-A6 are something of an upgrade from the TRS transmitters.

  14. Jeffrey 4 weeks ago

    I have the ST-E3-RT with two 600 EX II-RT speelights, and I was just about to give up with the Canon system as far as strobes go, and buy a Flashpoint XPLOR. Now, my prayers are answered, and I only need my one Radio Transmitter (ST-E3-RT) to communicate with all my flash devices!

    It seems like you have already done some testing with the ST-E3-RT with the RT-610. Can you let me know how well the ST-E3-RT can communicate with the RT-610? Are you able to change the light from Manual to TTL, adjust the output power, HSS, and all that with the ST-E3-RT? Actually, do you plan to make a video of the initial impression of the light? If so, can you talk about the integration of it with the ST-E3-RT?

    Thanks!

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

      Hi Jeffrey,

      Yes I think this is game changer for Canon RT users. (The Phottix Indra500LC are another RT option).

      From the ST-E3-RT (or Canon 600EX-RT etc radio master mode) you can control everything on the RT 610 just as though it was a big Canon RT slave speedlite.

      The one limitation is that you can’t turn the strobes modelling light on and off remotely from the Canon RT transmitters, as that function is not part of the Canon system.

      The other limitation with the ST-E3-RT is no second curtain sync, though again that’s due to Canon’s system. The TR-611C transmitter should allow SCS though.

      • Jeffrey 4 weeks ago

        I can’t wait for this to actually come out then! Just preordered! Is there any estimate on when they will start shipping?

  15. Prince Amevor 4 weeks ago

    Wow so much to chose from

  16. daemorhedron 4 weeks ago

    No sony or fuji, disappointing =(

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

      Hi daemorhedron,

      Jinbei are working on Sony compatibility, expected some time after the Chinese new year break.

  17. vcbneo 4 weeks ago

    Does it work withShanny SN-E3-RT trigger? If it does, how consistent is TTL using SN? Thanks.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

      Hi vcbneo,

      As mentioned previously I had to bump start the Shanny transmitter in exactly the same way as mentioned with the YongNuo unit. It won’t work unless there is a Canon master switched on first, and running at the same time.

  18. John 4 weeks ago

    How do the power settings work. I see the unit has 1-10 with increments of .1. But the Canon system is in fractions 1/32, 1/16 and in 1/3 stop increments

  19. Smudgestick 4 weeks ago

    Hi, The settings are comparable and quite easy to use together. The Jinbei adjusts in stops & 1/10th stop increments. The Canon system of say from 1/2 to 1/4 is also 1 stop adjustment – but the intervening increments are 1/3 rd stops. In practice, it causes no problem, IMO.

  20. Allen Gambrell 4 weeks ago

    How does the modeling light compare to the Xplorer 600. I have found the modeling light on it is so dim it is useless. Is the ORLIT much brighter?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

      Hi Allen,

      Yes, in a double diffused sofbox (Glow ParaPop 38″) I get 1.5 stops more light from the ORLIT RT 610 modelling light, over the XPLOR 600.

      Using the same ORLIT 5.5″ reflector on both strobes I get 2.7 stops more light from the ORLIT RT 610.

      The difference there is the XPLOR’s modelling light has a pretty uneven light pattern, unless its diffused, or the flash bulb is removed so that is doesn’t block the LED light.

      So removing the XPLOR’s bulb provides another stop of light in the reflector, but only 0.3 stops extra in the double diffused softbox. Still at least 1.2 stops behind the ORLIT RT 610 (which makes sense at 10 watts Vs 20 watts).

      The RT 610’s modelling light is warm 3200K though, where the XPLOR is around 5500K.

  21. Charlie 4 weeks ago

    Elvis,
    Only three groups are possible with this strobe?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

      Hi Charlie,

      The strobe itself has 5 groups. Its only the TR-611C/612N that are limited to 3 groups.

      If you use a transmitter like the Canon ST-E3-RT you have 5 groups to work with in TTL or Manual.

  22. Joe 4 weeks ago

    If I gave my second shooter the 611C and I used a 600 EX-RT as a trigger, would this light play slave for both of us? If so, would it have to be on the same settings for both of us or could we each have it set differently?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 weeks ago

      Hi Joe,

      The Canon RT system is designed to allow multiple shooters, so with the same lights you should both be able to use your own settings.

      On a quick run the TR-611C that appears to work the same way (as a ST-E3-RT etc), though I don’t know if you may possibly discover quirks with the TR-611C in practice used like that.

      Worst case scenario is you would need a second Canon transmitter or master flash.

      • Joe 4 weeks ago

        Awesome. Thanks so much for all the info here. This is the only place I found good feedback on this light that I trust!

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 3 weeks ago

          Hi Joe,

          I spoke a bit too soon, would you believe I’ve actually run into a bug trying to use 2 transmitters / master units at once.

          Basically this is not working unless I switch on another RT slave speedlite. Otherwise the 2 transmitters link to the RT 610 strobe, though only one transmitter will have its recycle ready / test fire light lit, so that it can fire the strobe. Turning on another RT speedlite, whether its YongNuo, Orlit, or Canon, does the trick to instantly light up both transmitters recycle ready / test fire buttons.

          This is using 2 original Canon transmitter / master units. When I was mixing the TR-611C with an ST-E3-RT things went haywire at one stage and I couldn’t get anything to link again.

          When thing are working though (via the workaround above), you can run completely different setting on each cameras and transmitter, and the RT 610 strobe will automatically adjust to each camera.

          • Joe 3 weeks ago

            Thanks for the work-around! I ordered the strobe already, so now I know what to do if I encounter that issue.

  23. Don 3 weeks ago

    Does the YN-E3-RT that you tried have the latest firmware? Have you tries it with the new version of the YN-E3-RT?

  24. Joe 2 weeks ago

    This may be a stupid question, but is there a risk with using the Wescott Rapid Box XXL Bowens mount octabox with this? It says it’s rated for 500 watt lights (aimed at Profoto, I guess, even though that’s a different mount) but is it really that much of a risk to use it with a 600watt light like this? Having trouble finding good bowens mount quick-folding octaboxes rated for a light like this.

  25. Fritz Nordengren 2 weeks ago

    Joe, Great question…. I might be wrong, but as I read the literature on the Westcott Rapid box, it can also be used with constant lights like their uLite. So I read the 500 watt maximum for a continuous light source, not a strobe flash with 600 watt seconds.

    • Joe 1 week ago

      That makes a lot more sense. Thank you!

  26. Don 3 days ago

    Is a 20 LED modeling light enough? What is the equivalent wattage incandescent light?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 20 hours ago

      Hi Don,

      I’ll try and do a comparison with a halogen modelling light. Though I’d think its likely around 75 watt equivalent, if not less.

      Its certainly considerably better than the AD600B, though they are still really not what they should be. Most manufacturers are looking to the Profoto B1, though they are purely a battery strobe.

      The LED modelling lights really need to step up (I’ve been harassing Godox about this for some time).

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 5 hours ago

        UPDATE – My guess was wrong above, through a double diffused 38″ ParaPop the ORLIT LED is actually reading the same as a 150 watt halogen modelling light.

        And in standard reflectors the ORLIT LED is generally quite a way ahead as its more of a focused beam.

        In the ParaPop they were reading F2.0 +0.3, 1/60s, ISO800, at 5 feet.

        And the AD600B’s LED was 1.2 stops less in the same softbox.

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