ORLIT Rover RT TTL – 300Ws Battery Strobe Coming

ORLIT ROVER RT TTL

 

Adorama have release the ORLIT Rover RT TTL, a compact 300Ws, On and Off camera, TTL and HSS enabled portable flash unit.

The Rover RT are Adorama’s version of the Jinbei Mars-3, and feature direct compatibility with Canon’s own 2.4GHz RT radio system, as well as Orlit / Jinbei’s own 2.4GHz RF radio system for Canon and Nikon.

Likely inspired by the Profoto B2 TTL strobes, the Rover RT also feature very fast 0.3 – 1.3 second recycle times, and 20 frame per second capability.

As well as a fast flash duration mode, 1/1~1/256 power levels, and 300 full power pops per battery charge.

The very lightweight flash head weighs just 200 grams, and provides a 10 Watt LED modelling light.

The Rover’s compact modifier mount is proprietary, though a custom Bowen’s S-type adapter will be included with the flash.

ORLIT ROVER RT TTL

 

ORLIT ROVER RT TTL FEATURES

 

  • 300Ws (Guide N0. 58M – ISO 100, Supplied Reflector)
  • 10W LED Modelling Light (3200K), Manual & Proportional
  • Propriatery Accessory Mount (S-Type Adapter Coming)
  • Built in (removable) 14.8V / 2500mAh Lithium-ion Battery
  • 300 Full Power Pops Per Battery Charge
  • 0.03 – 1.3 Seconds Recycle Time
  • Flash Modes – TTL / M
  • HSS to 1/8000th (Down to 1/32 Power)?
  • Second Curtain Sync
  • Manual Flash – 1/256 – 1/1 Output (1/10th Increments, 9 Stop Range)
  • Flash Duration Freeze Mode (t0.5) – 1/800s – 1/19000s
  • Flash Duration Normal Mode  (t0.5) – 1/800s – 1/8000s
  • Canon RT compatible 2.4GHz Radio Receiver Built-in
  • Range – Depending On Transmitter
  • Groups – A / B / C / D / E / F
  • 16 Channels
  • Orlit / Jinbei 2.4GHz Radio Receiver Built-in
  • ETTL & ITTL Radio Slave Modes
  • Range – 300m + with TR-611 / TR-612 as Transmitter
  • Groups – A / B / C / D / E / F
  • 16 Channels
  • Supports Legacy TRS-V / TR-A6 Trigger System (No Group Control)
  • Supports Legacy TRS Trigger System (Limited unction)
  • Optic Slave Mode
  • Color Temp – Normal Mode – 5500°K ± 150°K
  • Colour Temp Freeze Mdoe – 5500°K ± 800°K
  • Large Color Dot Matrix LCD Display
  • Custom Functions
  • Auto Memory Function
  • Sound Prompt
  • Battery Level Indicator
  • Auto Power Off (After 60 Minutes)
  • Mini USB Port for Firmware Upgrades
  • 3.5mm Sync Port
  • Dimensions – Head -105W x145H (mm)
  • Dimensions – Pack – 165L x 67W x195H (mm)
  • Weight Head – 200 grams
  • Weight Pack – 1720 grams

 

ORLIT ROVER RT TTL

 

The Orlit Rover’s 14.8V 2500mAh Lithium-ion battery provides around 300 full power pops per charge.

And includes a built in charge level indicator.

 

ORLIT ROVER RT TTL

 

The Rovers pack and head system provides a very lightweight remote flash head unit.

Which can be used conveniently off camera, or even mounted above your camera on a flash bracket (for seriously fast and powerful on-camera TTL flash).

ORLIT ROVER RT TTL

 

Compatible transmitter units for the Orlit Rover RT when used in RT radio mode include all of Canon’s own RT enabled master units, like the 600EX-RT II flash, and ST-E3-RT transmitter.

Though Orlit also offer their own transceivers for Canon and Nikon, in the TR-611C, and TR-612N.

  • Canon version TR-611C providing both Canon RT, and Orlit / Jinbei 2.4GHz RF Canon radio modes.
  • Nikon version TR-612N providing Orlit / Jinbei 2.4GHz RF Nikon radio mode.

 

ORLIT TR-611C

 

The Orlit TR-611C, and TR-612N both provide 3 flash groups A / B / C. Remote zoom control for speedlites is also available by group.

The hotshoe on top of the units when used as transmitter mounted on the camera provide full TTL pass through for a flash mounted on top.

Radio range is specified as up to an impressive 300 meters.

The Orlit TR-611C, and TR-612N transceivers can also act as receiver units.

(Note – Remote Modelling light control is only available in the RF modes, not RT Mode).

 

 

ORLIT_ROVER_RT_5b640

 

The Rover RT are part of a fast expanding Orlit radio flash system.

Along with the compatible Orlit speedlites, and cordess strobes, Adorama intend to have compatible 600Ws and 800Ws AC powered TTL and HSS enabled studio lights available by mid year (2017).

All working directly with the Canon RT radio system, or Orlit’s own 2.4GHz RF radio system for Canon and Nikon.

There is also a transmitter, and Apple / Android smart phone apps coming (around mid 2017), to control the whole system in the studio.

 

ORLIT RT 601 HSS

 

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The ORLIT Rover RT TTL strobes are available for pre-order now from Adorama for $449.95.

 

TR-611C, and TR-612N transceivers are also available.

As well as the Orlit RT-600C Speedlite for Canon.

 

Orlit – Website

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39 Comments
  1. Jared 6 months ago

    How long is the cable from the power pack to the flash head?

  2. Andrew Miller 6 months ago

    Looks a great bit of kit, be interesting to see real life performance and power as opposed to a spec sheet. Price is good also.

  3. tomK 6 months ago

    Wow, 300 watts in this form factor at this price seems to be the perfect HSS addition to a Canon RT wedding/event kit.

    Hope the Bowens-S adaptor arrives quickly and the firmware issues are sorted out upon release. Reading through reviews on Adorama’s site for the other RT-compatible items, it seems there’s a pattern of firmware updates a month or so after release. Mac users have a hard time with these updates as they’re only for PC.

  4. Mark 6 months ago

    Very interesting but I am in Godox gear very deep.

    This would be brilliant on a boom or on a pole carried by the usual unpaid assistant.

  5. Author
    Flash Havoc 6 months ago

    UPDATE – A custom Bowen’s mount adapter will be included with the Rover RT.

  6. Niels Gram 6 months ago

    If it is compatible with the YNE3-RT I will buy (at least) one ! This is exactly what I’ve been looking for.

  7. RDW 6 months ago

    Will this mount on the camera hot shoe?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 months ago

      Hi RDW,

      No you can’t really mount the head on the camera hotshoe, because you would need to mount the transmitter on the hotshoe.

      You would need to mount the head on a flash bracket. And Jinbei actually make a bracket for the strobe, though it just mounts the flash head beside the camera, with no allowance for mounting over the lens in portrait or landscape etc.

      So you would generally be better off with a good flip bracket of some description. Profoto use the Promediagear bracket as an example.

      A ball head would be handy as well for bouncing the flash. I don’t know if anyone makes a nice small ball head these days which could be disengaged easily for quick one hand manipulation of the flash head (something like a mini pistol grip button).

      • RDW 6 months ago

        Thanks for the follow up. I was planning on getting the Promedia Gear flash bracket anyway. Hopefully, it will work with this new light kit. I wanted to get the B2’s, but the kit is just too expensive. If they had an option to power it with another source, other than the proprietary one from Profoto, it would be a good option. But since the battery pack for the B2 cost more than the light itself, it’s not an option. Hopefully this ORLIT will be a nice alternative.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 6 months ago

          No worries. My other concern though (for on-camera use) is that the Canon ST-E3-RT doesn’t have any AF assist light.

          I’ll have to try picking up a Phottix Laso transmitter, and a recent YN-E3-RT and see if they have any luck with compatibility.

          • RDW 6 months ago

            Yes, but the Yongnuo version (the YN-E3-RT) does have AF assist.

            • Andy 6 months ago

              Yes, but the YN-E3-RT may not work with it!
              Both companies have basically reverse engineered Canon’s RT system, so that their gear will work with Canon gear. However, they may have gone about this in different ways, so it is not necessarily guaranteed to work.

              • Author
                Flash Havoc 6 months ago

                Yes my YN-E3-RT do not work with the Orlit RT 610. Though I have the early versions of the transmitter and they did make an update, so I’ll order a current transmitter and see if that is any more successful.

                Adorama at least do want YN-E3-RT compatibility, whether Jinbei actually make it happen is another thing though.

          • tomK 6 months ago

            Not sure if anyone’s connecting the dots, but the 10w LED bulb onboard does away with the need for AF asset. Turn it on a get a sense for shadow fall, light the path for your subject and actually see the expressions on faces as you click the shutter.

            • Author
              Flash Havoc 6 months ago

              I did forget about the modelling light. Though I still don’t think that is really going to substitute well in place of an AF assist for on-camera flash use. Not at wedding receptions and the like.

              There is currently no On / Off control of the modelling light from the Canon RT transmitter either. I guess if the pack is over your shoulder though you at least have some access to the button there.

              I suggested Jinbei at least provide an option for the LED to come on for a set time on half press of the camera shutter when using a Canon RT transmitter, though I really don’t know if that will possibly come about.

  8. Alexander 6 months ago

    Jinbei 600C/N TTL, MARS-3, MSN-600/800 TTL, TR-Q6 and TR-V6 is available for purchase in China without a pre order (in stock) for a few weeks.

    Who can tell exactly?
    The Chinese version of flashes support Canon RT Protocol as well as ORLIT?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 months ago

      Hi Alexander,

      From what I understand the Canon RT compatibility will generally be exclusive to Orlit at this stage. So the Rover RT will be RT compatible, but not the Jinbei Mars-3.

      I think the Jinbei have already added the Canon RT mode to current HD 610 though (called the ZGB mode) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xHKkdwP3bE

      • Alexander 6 months ago

        Hi ELV!

        Thanks for the link!

        As I understand it is a sort of PROXY mode from Yongnuo but much more useful 🙂

        However, it is now possible to do even without Canon RT devices if their value is equal to the MARS-3 and 601 HSS
        I hope that JINBEI will release a manual version of the HD-610 and MSN 🙂
        Studio flash rarely needs to be TTL
        I hate to buy equipment in the US, is a very expensive shipping and service for me.

  9. Alex Valtchev 6 months ago

    Can I control it with ORLIT TR-Q6 trigger for Nikon?

    https://www.adorama.com/orrrtrq6n.html

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 months ago

      Hi Alex,

      Yes you certainly should be able to once the transmitter is available.

      I though the TR-Q6 was mainly a Bluetooth transmitter, though it appears to be a full stand alone 2.4GHz radio transmitter, also with Bluetooth connection with the smart phone apps.

  10. Alexander Valtchev 6 months ago

    Both triggers TR-612N and TR-Q6 only support 3 groups. How do I access groups D / E / F

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 6 months ago

      Hi Alex,

      D and E are currently accessible via the Canon RT transmitter and master flashes.

      I don’t think D, E, and F, are accessible via the Nikon transmitters at the moment. Jinbei have likely built them into the strobe in provision for later transmitters etc with expanded capability.

  11. Alex Valtchev 5 months ago

    Is there any way Nikon shooters can access all A / B / C / D / E / F groups? Perhaps new trigger from Orlit that looks and acts like ORLIT ST-RT, but Nikon version? There are so many options for Canon to use 4, 5 or 6 groups and all manufactures are limiting Nikon to just 3 groups? Come on… anyone?

    Perhaps ORLIT will address this problem ? I am Nikon shooter and would love to use 6 groups with 1 trigger with big LCD like (ORLIT ST-RT ) that can control all small speedlights like (ORLIT RT-600C TTL RT Speedlite), medium like (ORLIT Rover RT TTL, a compact 300Ws), and large studio monoblocks like (ORLIT RoveLight RT 610 TTL)

  12. Dan Martin 4 months ago

    I wonder if the Phottix Laso trasmitter will work with this. I currently have one and it works flawlessly with my Canon and Yongnuo speedlights. My personal opinion – it’s far better than the Canon and Yongnuo counterparts in terms of build (basically a carbon copy of the Elinchrom Skyport Plus HS)… and it has AF assist.

  13. yana 4 months ago

    “The hotshoe on top of the units when used as transmitter mounted on the camera provide full TTL pass through for a flash mounted on top.”

    does that meanwhat I hope it means? I can put a yn622tx on top of the tr-611c, and have ttl & hss working on both the yns & the orlit at the same time?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 months ago

      Hi Yana,

      No, unfortunately you can’t have more than one TTL transmitter functioning in TTL, because the camera can only deal with one TTL transmitter at a time.

      Sometimes you can get away with using one transmitter in manual while the other provides TTL. And that may even require taping over the TTL contacts between the transmitters.

  14. yana 4 months ago

    Thanks for the relpy Flashhavoc.. does that mean I cannot do ttl only, but can use both transmitter in manual hss only ?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 months ago

      I think I may actually have to eat my previous words 🙂

      I gave it a try and HSS is working with both transmitters set to manual power levels and HSS. So then I tried setting the TR-611C to TTL (YN-622C-TX in manual) and HSS still worked with both lights, and correct TTL exposure.

      So just out of curiosity I tried setting both transmitters to TTL (and even HSS), and would you believe they do both work at the same time, and both TTL exposures appear correct!

      I have never seen that happen before, usually something will always go haywire if you fire 2 transmitters in TTL. The display on the YN-622C-TX does actually go crazy as soon as you switch it on if the TR-611C is already switched on. So the YN-622C-TX needs to be switched on first.

      So incredibly this does appear to work with dual TTL to some degree, though I still wouldn’t bank on not running into issues using them that way.

      Remote manual and HSS does work with the YN-622C-TX though, and I didn’t even put the transmitter into single firing pin mode, let alone cover the TTL contacts to between the TR-611C. The AF assist light still works on the YN-622C-TX then as well.

      TR-611C was set to RF radio mode, I didn’t try RT mode (because the RT mode generally has enough issues linking with the TR-611C on their own).

  15. yana 4 months ago

    wow thats super great news!!!

    I guess this setup should also work with the hd610 as well yes?

    I hope (fingers crossed) you’ll be doing more experiments with this setup (perhaps a youtube clip? 🙂 ) , and updateing the article? I’m pretty sure alot of your readers and photographers will find it very very usefull..

    thank you very much in advace 🙂

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 4 months ago

      Sorry, I was using the ORLIT RT 610, as the Rover are not available just yet.

      You’re welcome to experimenter and share your findings etc, though I’m more than busy just dealing with issues that come up using one system the way it should work, let alone trying to mix gear that’s not designed to work together. You’re bound to run into more issues there sooner or later.

  16. yana 4 months ago

    I see your point, it was really kind of you to have tried it out.. perhaps others may try it out and share the results.. 🙂 I don’t think I would do much tll when using both flashes (especially outdoors without assistance), HSS and manual probably.. but its really good to know that hss manual can be done with both system , that would be the most important..

    you mentioned covering the pins could you kindly help me understand the which pins controls hss and which pin controls ttl (does it work like that? am I understanding it correctly)..

    so theoretically if I were to only expose the firing pin only, I should be able to :
    1. make the camera not think it has no flash/tranciever on board and I can fire past 1/200 without going into hss
    2. in a pinch I could use a different brand flash (niko, sony) in full manual mode,

    thanks Flashhavoc (learning plenty from this site)

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 months ago

      Ok, the TTL contacts for Canon (if you look down at the camera hotshoe) are the 4 smaller ones forming a square. The larger centered contact is the firing pin.

      With HSS there are 2 ways of doing it. For fully automated HSS (which automatically and remotely turns HSS on and off on the slave flash) you need all the TTL contacts and the firing pin connected between the camera and transmitter.

      With some strobes though, and even a number of the Godox speedlites, you can set the flash to HSS mode directly on the flash, which then makes it fire with the short pulses HSS usually uses. Then all you need is an early fire signal from the camera, and that can come from the firing pin only, though you need a transmitter unit on the camera capable of providing that early fire signal.

      I tried the TR-611C though, and that does not appear to provide the early fire signal, either via the hotshoe on top, or via its PC sync port unfortunately. So you can’t use the second method with the TR-611C anyway, and need to have all contacts connected for HSS to work with the YN-622C-TX.

      So you will have to use both transmitters fully connected together, though the safest option would be to avoid using both in TTL mode. And if possible even keeping both in manual. Its something you may have to experiment with for a while before you may possibly find or experience some issues.

  17. John 2 months ago
    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 months ago

      Hi John,

      That’s just a mistake in the listing, Adorama are aware now and will update it.

  18. Luis 2 months ago

    this product is now no longer available on adorama website, anyone know why?

  19. Author
    Flash Havoc 2 months ago

    Hi Luis,

    As mentioned above, that’s just a mistake in the listing, Adorama are aware now and will update it. The Rover will still be coming.

  20. Casey 1 month ago

    I don’t see a hotshoe mount on this thing? I too was wondering about whether this would work with my Yongnuo triggers (transceiver and receiver) but I don’t see how they would even connect?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 month ago

      Hi Casey,

      The Rover pack has a 3.5mm PC sync port, so you can connect other radio receivers via PC sync cord to simply fire the strobe.

      You would then need to use the Orlit transmitter in hand to control the strobes power levels etc remotely.

      If you want TTL though you would need to use one of the compatible ORLIT or Jinbei transmitters on the camera.

      And in my replys to Yana further above, I was able to combine the YN-622C-TX and TR-611 transmitters to some degree. Though the TR-611 have basically already been replaced by the current TR-Q6 transmitters, which do not have a hotshoe on top to mount additional transmitters.

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