PHOTTIX – INDRA 360 TTL Studio Light Announced

Phottix Indra 360

 

Phottix have announced the Indra 360 TTL studio light and Indra 360 Battery Pack, expected to be available as soon as mid April 2015.

The 360Ws Indra 360 kits provide a more compact and economical variation to the recently available Indra 500 TTL strobes, which also provide full TTL, HSS, and Odin and Strato II radio capability built in.

If the Indra 500 were a little out of your price range, then things have just become very interesting, as the Indra 360 light and new battery pack are expected to retail in the $800 range (compared to $1200 for the Indra 500 kit).

And kits with multiple Indra 360 lights and Odin transmitter included will also be available.

 

Phottix Indra 360

 

Apart from the reduced 360Ws output, the Indra 360 TTL provide essentially the same light unit as the Indra 500 TTL strobe.

With very solid all metal constructed, solid Bowen’s S-Type mount, Large color LCD display, and Odin and Strato II radio receiver modules built in for Canon and Nikon DSLR systems.

With a reduction in the capacitors required, the Indra 360 TTL strobe will likely shed a little bit of weight over the 500.

 

INDRA 360 TTL FEATURES 

 

  • 360Ws Studio Light
  • TTL, Manual, Multi Modes
  • High Speed Sync – To 1/8000s Shutter Speeds
  • Second Curtain Sync
  • TTL Adjustments: +/- 3 EV in 1/3 Stop Increments
  • Manual Power: 1/128 to Full Power in 1/3 Stop Increments
  • Wireless TTL and Manual Power Control with Phottix Odin and Mitros+ Systems
  • Odin for Canon and Nikon Receivers Built In
  • Phottix Strato II Receiver Built in
  • 9W LED Modeling Light (9 Power Levels)
  • Large Full Color TFT LCD screen
  • USB Port for Firmware Updates
  • Indra 360 Battery Pack – 4000 mAh Lithium-ion – 300 Full-Power Shots
  • Compatible with original Indra 5000 mAh & 10,000 mAh Battery Packs
  • Compatible with Indra AC Power Adapter

 

Phottix Indra 360 TTL

 

INDRA 360 BATTERY PACK

 

Where the Indra 360 kit will provide a size and weight advantage is in new compact one piece Indra 360 Battery Pack.

The 4000 mAh Indra 360 Battery Packs are reportedly small enough to carry in your pocket, while still capable of providing a very decent 300 full power pops when used with the Indra 360 strobes.

The single port Indra 360 Battery Packs will only power one Indra 360 strobe at a time. Though the original larger dual port Indra battery packs can also be used to power one or two Indra 360 strobes.

An Indra AC Adapter can also power two Indra 360 TTL studio lights in 110 or 220V environments, while providing super-fast recycle times.

 

Phottix Indra 360 TTL

 

 

ODIN II TRANSMITTER

 

The Indra 360 and 500 TTL stobes have Phottix Odin and Strato II radio receivers built in for Canon and Nikon DSLR systems. And there are rumours Phottix are also working on Sony compatibility.

Although the current Odin transmitter can control most functions of the Indra lights, Phottix have also previously announced new Odin II transmitter and receiver units to be available within 2015.

The Odin II transmitter provides very fast and easy access to 5 individual groups, any of which can be set to TTL, Manual, or OFF.

Modelling light power level control can also be set for each group from the new transmitter unit.

And importantly the Odin II transmitter provide an AF assist light for low light focusing.

 

Phottix ODIN II

 

Zack Arias has also hinted in a recent post on the Indra 500 TTL here, that Phottix may be working on a more universal remote manual transmitter solution for the Indra and camera systems other than Canon / Nikon / Sony.

Hopefully that universal capability could possibly be included in the Odin II transmitter as well.

 

The Phottix Indra 360 TTL Studio Light will be on display at WPPI 2015 – see the Phottix Booth #1315 in the MGM Grand Marquee Ballroom.

Phottix Indra 360

 

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The Phottix Indra 360 TTL Studio Lights and Indra 360 Battery Packs are available now from $899 –

B&H Photo, Adorama, Amazon, UK.

 

The Indra500 TTL Studio Light, Battery Pack, and AC Adapter are also available now –

B&H Photo, Adorama, Amazon, UKPhottix Store.

 

Indra 500 TTL – Brochure
Phottix – Website.

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30 Comments
  1. Stas Medvedev 2 years ago

    Good news!

  2. Ken 2 years ago

    Still waiting for a Sony version and hopefully they release it soon enough.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Ken,

      Sony compatibility is very likely to come, though more likely towards the second half of the year.

  3. Earle 2 years ago

    If they really have been working in tandem with CONONMK, one would think they’d have a Sony version too — especially since they’ve got the triggers.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Earle,

      I think Sony compatibility is pretty much inevitable eventually. I don’t think Phottix want to build expectations on a time frame they may not meet though.

      Phottix have said they have had no collaboration with Cononmk on developing this gear.

      I have the K4T running with the Sony A7 now though. It appears to work quite well with TTL and HSS, though like with Canon you basically need to use FEC adjustments on the camera at this stage.

  4. Ricardo 2 years ago

    Absolutely fantastic. If it’s not marketing hype, a battery that small really adds a good deal of versatility to this strobe. Carrying it around on location is now much easier. And 360W is plenty of power for many types of work. I might actually get this model first before the bigger brother. I rarely need anything more than a couple of speedlites for my lighting setups.

    A year ago I wrote a blog article about the photography business standardizing things like lighting protocols and lens mounts. That may be a dream. But I’m glad that Phottix may at least standardize their own systems to be inter-functional with different camera systems.

    This is all super. Can’t wait!

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Ricardo,

      As you mentioned previously, I’ve looked at ways of attaching the current Indra battery to the light for (basically) a fully cordless solution when needed. And it could be done, though it would be pretty bulky with the current pack.

      UPDATE – Image of the light and Indra 360 battery pack added.

      That pack should hopefully strap or velcro straight to the side of the light. So this could be a neat all in one light when needed.

      Then using the Rovelight’s compact 5″ reflector you could likley fit 2 of these lights in the current case ready set up to pick up and fire like the RoveLight.

      (So hopefully Phottix do still supply the current case with the 360 kit as well).

    • Jacques 2 years ago

      You might also consider Godox’ Witstro AD360 or RS600P, available for about $500. I like this Indra as a complement to my AD360 and speedlights, mainly for it’s modeling light (which my others lack) and the ability to use AC as well as DC. Running AC, it could provide modeling light as my key in a location studio setup, with the other lights for fill, background, back/sidelight, etc.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 2 years ago

        Hi Jacques,

        The Indra 360 are more likely getting the jump on the TTL system Godox have planned for the Witstro and AD360 in particular. Godox don’t appear to be in an hurry though unfortunately.

        For those that use Canon or Nikon the Indra are currently the only light that have an on-camera TTL / HSS speedlight transmitter option (other than the Quantum’s system). So the Indra integrate very nicely with speedlites and on camera flash as well.

        The Indra’s modelling light is unfortunately pretty weak though. I didn’t think about this much before the Indra arrived. As a DC strobe you wouldn’t expect much more as it would only drain the battery anyway, but as an all in one AC studio light solution as well, this is likely the weakest point for the Indra.

  5. Brian J 2 years ago

    I have an Godox 360 and use their master trigger with an Odin trigger to fire. Power control adjustments on the Godox/Odin to fire. It works ok but the Phottix TTL ecosystem just work flows better with my speedlites and I have TTL if needed. For me since I’m already invested in Phottix the Indra system with TTL/Manual control seems like a no brainer. I think I’ll just save for 2 Indra 500s. Having 500 ws would be a huge step up from the Godox 360. Plus the Bowens S-Type mounting without having another bracket to ‘adapt’ to the S-Type just makes more economic sense for me.

    • Markthetog 2 years ago

      The Indra 500 seems to be a great unit based on the images and specs it offers only 2/3 of a stop more power than the Wistro.
      I am using a variety of flashes on location and the Wistro is all I generally need for power, even in bright sunlight.
      I would agree on having a uniform Bowens mount on all ones gear but in the field I usually am using umbrellas so this is not an issue for me.
      The weight and size of the Wistro is a huge plus for me on location. I have two huge cases filled with Buff lighting and stands (7) and it is a royal pain to load and unload and cart around. The Wistros take up one small bag and give me enormous flexibility and speed.
      I am not getting younger and while I am still in god shape I can handle the heavy gear I will definitely be migrating to small , battery powered strobes.

  6. David C 2 years ago

    Looks like a pretty nice feature set. How solid/durable are the Indras?

    If this was available last year, there’s a chance I wouldn’t have gone with the Godox 360 (although I am very pleased with it)….Now the Godox 360 can be had for much cheaper (however, it doesn’t have the modeling light, built in wireless or Bowens mount)…..

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi David,

      The Indra are extremely solid all metal built, and finished very nicely.

      Though how that actually equates to durability in the worst case of a light stand fall I don’t know. I think its quite possible the alloy castings could crack in a large enough impact.

      The concept I tried to pitch to Phottix years ago was more rugged durability. Basically with impact absorbing rubber casings around the flash like you see with many cordless power tools now. They can survive a beating without having to baby them, and you can even stack them together etc without padding in between.

      • sloma_p 2 years ago

        And what was the response? Rugged, maybe even wather sealed Indra would be really nice 🙂

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 2 years ago

          Hi sloma_p,

          Actually the response was pretty positive. This is Phottix’s first studio style strobe though, so I wasn’t expecting they would do anything to radical to start with.

      • Markthetog 2 years ago

        Rugged build is great but the guts are what I want to work for the life of the unit. Ironically the only flash that has had its capacitors fail for me have been Hensel. A brand noted for its quality. Budget Chinese strobes have been very sturdy in my experience though I have yet to commit to a full complement of them.
        I had heard mention of low quality capacitors used in Chinese strobes a few years ago but I don’t know how much of that was accurate or smoke by fearful competitors.

        • Author
          Flash Havoc 2 years ago

          Hi Mark,

          I haven’t looked inside the Indra, as its not a cheap light I’d like to be pulling apart unless its really necessary.

          Though you can see from the build quality on the outside Phottix have not really wanted to cut any corners with these. They provide a 2 year warranty, so it would be a pretty costly exercise if they did have to be replacing and shipping these too often.

          Only time will really tell though. The thing I would be a little more unsure about is what the consequences of a fall etc and needing to have a paid repair done may be.

  7. Rick Grainger 2 years ago

    This looks very exciting.

    Would any standard 7″ honeycomb grid work with the included reflector? (I am assuming that the reflector does come standard with this light.)

    Cheers

    Rick

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Rick,

      The 7″ reflector comes standard with the Indra 500, and I assume it will with the 360 as well. I actually suggested they look at a smaller reflector for the 360, making the whole kit more compact. Though I would assume they will stick with the 7″ from the 500.

      I think most standard 7″ grids should fit ok, though Phottix do also have a set available for the Indra now.

  8. Mikhail 2 years ago

    What would be really great is if Godox made a pocketable version of the PB960 battery pack… I’d take that over TTL anyway! But Phottix is really shaking things up with this, awesome!

  9. Christian 2 years ago

    I don’t care about TTL. I use a Gh4 and wondering if this will be compatible with as a manual trigger, and if the High Sync Capabilites can be utilized on the GH4. Anyone have an idea?

  10. keano 2 years ago

    Hi Elvis,
    If you were looking to branch out into weddings would you opt for the 360 or the 500. TTL on both comes in handy for events and weddings. Also do you think the 360 would be enough to over power the sun? Has anyone tried one of these?

  11. kristian 2 years ago

    I´m waiting so hard for the Indra 500 and the Odin II transmitter…. Are there any News when I can get one?
    Best regards, Kristian

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Kristian,

      I’ll check for an update in a week or so when Steve gets back in.

      I haven’t heard anything new otherwise, though I’d guess in the next couple of months.

  12. Brian J 2 years ago

    I finally bit the bullet and bought two Indra 500s. I was already invested in the Odin system with my speedlites so it was mostly a no-brainer. So far I am very pleased. A couple of little things that are form and function. One, the battery pack has no belt clip or clamp to attach to a stand. I’ve hung them from the included strap on my c-stands but a bracket would be better. Two, the display on the strobe does not reflect the settings on the Odin. Not a big deal but I catch myself glancing at the screen on the lights sometimes for confirmation that is not there. Performance has been, so far, outstanding in both ETTL and manual modes. I am very interested in the Odin II because I’ve never liked the upright position the Odin has on my hot shoe as I tend to bump it a lot. All in all this is the best bang for the buck in remote studio lighting for me.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Brian,

      Thanks for the feedback. Yes the lack of stand clamp or any mounting point like a 1/4″ threaded hole on the battery pack was one of the first things I pointed out to Phottix. I think they may have to look at a pouch for the pack for this.

      Yes looking forward to the Odin II as well, it should be a very sweet system then.

  13. Marco 2 years ago

    Hi there,

    I am SO excited about the Indra system, but have just ordered a Sony a7rii so can’t pull the trigger until its 100% there will be Sony TTL – otherwise the Profoto B1 comes into play as well…
    Furthermore, I have ordered a Mitros+, is the Indra designed to work seamlessly with the speedlight as well?

    Any updates on the Odin TCU II?

    Lastly, do you really feel you need 500 to overpower the sun, or would the 360 work?

    Thanks

  14. Niels Gram 2 years ago

    The recycle time is now spec’ed to be up to 5 seconds for the 360 with the smaller battery. For the Indra500 the upper limit is spec’ed to be 2 seconds with the larger battery. For me a max recycle time of 5 seconds mean that I would only be able to use it at 1/50 power because I need the flash to be able to follow the 10 fps of my camera. This makes the Indra360 uninteresting for me 🙁 I haven’t seen a spec for the 360 with the larger battery but I would assume that this would be more interesting – but also more expensive.

  15. Jairo Manalu 1 year ago

    Hi there, I just got Indra 360 TL after reading your review. It is really nice light and solid build. However, I just want to know is the fan of the light always running or is just mine. As a result it make noise. Thank you

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 1 year ago

      Hi Jairo,

      I don’t have the Indra 360, but my with my 500 the fan runs a lot of the time. And changing the fan setting makes no difference.

      I don’t really hear the fan outside, but when its quite inside the noise does really bother me. I’m surprised more people do not comment about that.

      Its not just your strobe though.

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