PHOTTIX – Indra500 TTL – 500WS HSS Portable Light Announced !

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Phottix have dropped a Photokina bombshell, announcing a killer new 500WS portable studio strobe in the Odin powered Indra500 TTL!

The Indra500 are the first Canon and Nikon compatible TTL and HSS enabled studio light, with both AC mains power and Lithium-ion battery options.

Update – Sony TTL radio slave mode and Odin II compatibility is also now added to the Indra500 strobes.

And the Indra are fully remote controlled by the excellent Phottix Odin, or Mitros+ radio master flash, with full Odin TTL radio receivers built inside!

 

Phottix Indra500 TTL

 

Phottix Press Release –

COLOGNE, GERMANY: Phottix unleashes a new level of power for photographers, unveiling their
new Indra500 TTL Studio Light.

The 500 Watt TTL Studio Light featuring High Speed Sync. Under the hood is the ultimate in control – with the award-winning Phottix Odin TTL Flash Trigger for Canon and Nikon built-in. Powered by Li-ion Battery or AC Adapter, the Indra500 TTL is perfect for on location or in the studio.

FEATURES -

• 500W Studio Light
• TTL, Manual and Stroboscopic Modes
• High Speed Sync – 1/8000s shutter speeds
• Second Curtain Sync
• Adjust +/- 3 EV
• Manual Power 1/128 to Full Power in 1/3 Stops
• Wireless Radio Power Control with Phottix Odin and Mitros+ systems
• Odin for Canon and Nikon Receivers Built in
• Phottix Strato II Receiver Built in
• LED Modeling Light
• Battery and AC Adapter Powered
• 400 full-power shots when using 5000 mAh Indra Battery Pack, 2 second recycle times

 

The Phottix Indra500 TTL was developed for photographers on the move. Developed with input from some of the industries biggest names, the Indra500 TTL packs a lot of punch for its 2.1 Kg
weight.

Use TTL to shoot during fast moving events like weddings. Shoot on-location, under the harsh sun and control ambient light with high speed sync. Shoot wide-open with

shutter speeds up to 1/8000s. The built-in Phottix Odin Receiver for Canon and Nikon makes the Indra500 TTL easy to control and trigger.

The Indra500 TTL offers 8 stops of power adjustment – from full power to 1/128 -perfect for overcoming midday sun or adding just a hint of light when shooting with large apertures. TTL exposures can be adjusted in +/- 3 EV levels.

“We’re very happy with the Indra500 TTL,” said Phottix CEO Steve Peer. “It provide photographers with a lot of power and options. Having High Speed Sync on a studio light is a game changer for helping control ambient light.”

 

Phottix Indra500 TTL

 

HIGH SPEED AND SECOND CURTAIN SYNC 

Traditional studio lights have limited shutter speeds to 1/200-1/250s. On location these speeds make balancing ambient light a challenge, having to sacrifice desired depth of field to get proper exposure.

With the Phottix Indra 500 TTL’s High Speed Sync function photographers can shoot at speeds up to 1/8000s, allowing wider apertures while still being able to control ambient light.

The Indra 500 TTL TTL’s Second Curtain Sync Functions brings untold functionality to the table. You can’t do that will a traditional studio light. Flash bracketing and flash exposure lock can all be used to help get that perfect shot. With Stroboscopic Mode, the Phottix Indra can be used for special effects and creative images with flash frequency of 1-100HZ and flash count of 1-100 times.

 

BUILT-IN TRIGGERING 

The Phottix Indra 500 TTL has the power and control of the award-winning Phottix Odin TTL Flash Trigger inside. Switch between TTL and Manual modes, adjust EV and manual power levels, use high speed sync and second curtain sync, all from the Phottix Odin TCU or Mitros+ Flash unit. With the Phottix Odin receivers for Canon and Nikon built-in, no extra hardware is needed.

Phottix Strato II users can also trigger the Indra 500 TTL. With a Strato II receiver built into the Indra, Strato II transmitters can trigger the studio light in manual mode. An optical slave mode is also available. A 3.5mm sync port rounds out the Phottix Indra’s triggering offerings – it’s compatible with most major triggering systems.

 

Phottix Indra500 TTL

 

BATTERY PACK AND AC ADAPTER 

The new Indra Series from Phottix offers cutting-edge accessories for the Indra500 TTL Studio Light and Mitros series flashes Indra Battery Pack and AC Adapter. The Indra Battery Pack is a lot of power in a compact unit. When used with the Indra500 TTL Studio Light it allows photographer to shoot 340 (+) full power shots. Its dual power ports can power two Indra500 TTL Studio Lights simultaneously, perfect for on-location work.

The Battery Pack’s LED display provides instant visual feedback on power remaining in the 5000 mAh or 10000 mAh cells. The Battery Pack’s USB charging port allows for easy charging of smart phones or tablets. The Indra Battery Pack can also power hot shoe flashes. With cables compatible for Phottix, Canon, Nikon or Sony flashes, the battery pack offer ultra-fast flash recycle times for small flashes.

 

Phottix Indra500 TTL

 

The Indra AC Adapter can power two Indra500 TTL studio lights in 110 or 220V environments – great for studio use, and provides added functionality for flashes – super-fast recycle times.

The Indra AC Adapter can also feed AC power directly into hot shoe flashes for lighting fast recharge times. Battery power is no longer an issue. The perfect accessory for using for using hot shoe flashes in the studio.

 

Phottix Indra500 TTL

 

The Indra series of products is part of Phottix’s new PhottixPro line-up of products. PhottixPro products will be the companies most innovative and technologically advanced.

The Indra500 TTL Studio Light, Indra Battery Pack and Indra AC Adapter will be available in October
2014. A Indra 500 TTL Light and Battery Set will be priced at $1295 USD.

 

SPECIFICATIONS -

Phottix Indra500 TTL Specs


PHOTTIX COMPATIBILITY -

Phottix Indra500 TTL

 

The Phottix Indra500 TTL are looking to give the recent Profoto B1 a serious run for their money, with a considerably lower price tag. And with the advantage of AC mains powered options.

Also most importantly for wedding and event photographers, the option of a Mitros+ on camera speedlite with full master radio transmitter built in.

 

 

UPDATE – June 2016 – 

Firmware is also now available to add Odin II functionality to the Indra500 TTL strobes, enabling Canon, Nikon, and Sony, version Odin II TTL radio slave modes. (Also Sony Odin I radio slave mode).

This means that Indra500 TTL strobes can now be fired and controlled by Canon, Nikon, or Sony version Odin II transmitter units, or Mitros+ speedlites mounted on camera in radio master mode.

(Note – This is not auto switching radio slave mode. Either Canon, Nikon, or Sony, slave mode must be selected on the strobe).

 

PHOTTIX ODIN II SONY

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The Indra500 TTL Studio Light are available now from around $1199 –

AdoramaB&H Photo, Amazon, UK

 

Indra500 TTL – Brochure
Phottix – Website.

 

 

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83 Comments
  1. Earle 3 years ago

    Very intriguing product. The world of portable lighting and TTL lighting is evolving quickly.

  2. Ace 3 years ago

    Best piece of news this year. Can’t say this is came as a total surprise, but the speed at which this product is announced just gives me goosebumps. Cannot wait to get my hands on them.

    Love the continuity with the legendary odin sets. Keep it going, Phottix.

    • Matt 3 years ago

      Exactly. I’m so excited that they included the odin mitros+ as the triggers. Now we can set up reception halls with these and fire them with a mitros+ for fill light. AH I love it.

  3. SlobberBone 3 years ago

    This is what I’ve been waiting for to make the jump to studio lights, How about a special package deal w/ modifiers & stands?

  4. SlobberBone 3 years ago

    This is what I’ve been waiting for to make the jump to studio lights, How about a special FLASH HAVOC package deal w/ modifiers, gels & stands? -

  5. Amir 3 years ago

    This looks really sleek. Just wish they had the option of a smaller built-in battery (or even something that you could clip to the head) for more portability. Other than that looks like a good package.

    • Reegz 2 years ago

      I have the jinbei hd 600’s and im gona sell them as quickly as I bought them purely because of weight. Having the battery separate from the head is better for weight distribution. Would you want a light with a battery and a large modifier hanging off the end of a boom stand in the wind? Nope, because then you have to start using heavier stands which defeats the purpose of portability

  6. Any Light Photography 3 years ago

    do they have any videos demonstrating the product yet?

  7. Sam 3 years ago

    OK – sounds good. But does it use an interchangeable mount system? The type of mount is usually an important spec……..no?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Sam,

      Don’t worry, I looked for this everywhere as well. I’d be very surprised if they are not Bowens S-type mount though. I just wanted to find some confirmation.

  8. mark 3 years ago

    I hope the TTL is more consistent than their Mitros + for Nikon otherwise this will be a bust if you need TTL.

  9. Billy 3 years ago

    Yes, these lights have just about everything that a Pro or near-Pro would be looking for in powerful portable lights. TTL, HSS, lithium ion battery, AC/DC option, remote and seamless triggering system etc, etc.

    Hello Yongnuo, are you listening????

  10. Josef 3 years ago

    Why no Sony option? Phottix has an Odin for Sony. Why didn’t they build-in a Sony receiver?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Josef,

      I’m a bit surprised you’re the only one to be commenting on Sony so far.

      I bet a lot of Canon and Nikon owners would seriously consider complementing their DSLR with an A7 if these could have worked with both.

      I really don’t know why. Maybe this would just be stretching the resources a little too far, to keep them up to date with all 3 models. There would either be a lot of firmware updates, or longer periods between updates if doing them all together.

      Or possibly a larger processor chip may even have been required to handle all 3.

      • Donald 3 years ago

        I have a Sony A7, A7s, etc. and want to buy into the Phottix system because there is no other Sony compatible HSS, TTL system that can mix flashes and strobes. There is a huge market of people like myself, which is everyone in the Sony system (as we have no other choice) or as mentioned many Canon and Nikon users some of whom have already switched to the Sony system for its small light cameras (I met one recently from an advertising firm using an A7s). While there are more Canon and Nikon users, I believe Phottix would actually sell more Indra500’s for the Sony system. I believe this was a bad business decision. Hopefully Phottix will recognize this and add a Sony option soon.

    • Jonny 3 years ago

      My guess would be a Sony update ( once full implimentation & testing is completed ) could show up in a firmware update… they most likely wanted their products available asap for Photokina!

  11. Andrew 3 years ago

    Agree with Mark………………..they need to fix existing and frustrating issues with MITROS+ TTL . New products are great but fixing legacy issues on other relatively new releases is just as important for their credibility and the brand franchise.

    That said I was surprised to see that the guy who contacted me to follow up on my issues is in fact the CEO ??? or at least quoted as such in the PR….they’re either short on staff (?) or taking it very seriously…..I hope and trust the latter! :-)

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 3 years ago

      Hi Andrew,

      They are a fairly small team, and working on developing something like this would take up a huge part of their resources. I’ve tried not to bother them because I knew they would be working on something new.

      I was actually hoping for possibly a new Odin transmitter with an AF assist light, and faster interface like the Mitros+. Though it is the Mitros+ that really needs some attention and tweaking still.

      I can understand they have to keep pressing on in the mean time though. And the Indra looks like a fairly smart choice. If your going to develop one light, its great that is does everything.
      .

      EDIT / UPDATE – Just as I was writing this Phottix have also now announced the coming ODIN II TTL Flash Triggers!
      .

  12. PonyMa 3 years ago

    Phottix Indra500 TTL not for SONY Odin?

  13. Ian Cheung 3 years ago

    The pics look like renderings but given Phottix’s record on delivering they are probably very close to how they will turn out. “When” is a different matter (again based on Phottix’s track record)

    Any sign of Profoto-like TTL locking feature on the Indra?

  14. Nicolas 3 years ago

    Great announce!
    The ability of powering speedlights with the batery and AC cable is great as well!
    It looks like a bit heavy compare to the rollei 600?
    But fully integrated with odin is fantastic.
    I go to Hong Kong for a shooting at the end of september.. I wish i could have 1 or 2 of them to make my life easier….
    Anw wait n see…
    Thks for sharing flash havoc!
    Cheers

  15. Mirror Image Pictures 3 years ago

    Phottix could put the nail in the Godox coffin with a Li-Ion battery flash like the v850. I was hoping for a sub-$1K price point on these but the functionality with the Odin II will run circles around any of the existing Godox big heads. Controlling everything from an onboard mitros+ while still having an AF light and fill source with built in remote control of everything….very clutch.

    The AD360 still fills a really nice gap. You can’t beat flying with half a dozen of these in a carry on for the price of Two Phottix Indras.

  16. Stevey 3 years ago

    Exciting specs. I had a question about using the modeling light with the battery packs, and I think the answer is hidden within the battery spec sheet. In those specs it shows the number of flashes for the 5000 mAh pack with the modeling light used (360 flashes). So apparently you can use the light with batteries (perhaps continuously) and the flash count is still pretty good while in use.

    While I prefer the price and portability of the AD360, I’ve waited to buy into that Witstro system because I want both a modeling light and a reliable battery system. This system looks to be less portable, but it will be more reliable and has a good modeling light solution. The integrated HSS is nice too, but that isn’t a real need for me.

    • Stevey 3 years ago

      Oh, and why no view from the front I wonder? I’m just curious what the bulb and modeling light look like. I know these are obviously computer renderings, but I’m sure they’ve figured out what the actual light will look like.

  17. Armin 3 years ago

    Sounds perfegt – if you are invested in the Odin system.

  18. Andrew 3 years ago

    Any idea if this is bare bulb or recessed tube?

    The one problem I have w/the Profoto B1’s is the recessed tube. Would prefer a bare bulb + spill kill.

    • Any Light Photography 3 years ago

      Andrew.. I believe it’s bare.. and not recessed.. if you google images for it.. you’ll see the bulb sticking out

  19. Peter 3 years ago

    As I understand it there is only external battery pack with powercord, and not an attachable battery like on the profoto b1? Damn, so close! Still cords and stuff now. I wonder who will make it perfect next…. Maybe Godox? Or maybe yongnuo can make it work, all in one piece, attachable battery, 600-800Ws, HSS, TTL with locked exposure when switching to manual, wireless triggering built in with YN-622 TX, and maybe, just maybe pick ONE colourtemperature and stick to it…… Not somewhere between 5500-8000 kelvin..

    • Stevey 3 years ago

      While I agree, I imagine that attaching/integrating the battery does pose thermal issues. And you can argue that external batteries like these are more versatile. (Used in combo with speedlights, etc.)

    • Chris N. 2 years ago

      I prefer an external battery pack to attach to my lightstand for added stability. Your assistant will also love not having to hold all the weight at the tip of the ligthstand. My opinion.

  20. António 2 years ago

    Available in October, but which part of the month? :)

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Antonio,

      I don’t really know, but its probably closer to the November part :-)

  21. JH Photo 2 years ago

    recent events have me seriously considering phottix as a major contender in the lighting and triggering department. I currently own 1 einstein w/VLX and an MC2 for convenience while using my sekonic.
    The VLX outperforms the claims by phottix in terms of full power shots and less but I would hope that it’s at least a little more portable. I wonder if the phottix Indra is potentially compatible with other power sources such as my VLX for instance.
    Sekonic users are hamstrung until phottix decides that it is worth providing some kind of work around to get RF interaction with their lights and triggers made available. Currently only method is PC sync port. Modding the 758 might be do-able since they already have drop in radios for a few other systems i’ve read somewhere.
    I already plan to own some mitros+ and odin II whenever it arrives (looks vastly improved over any other controller i’ve seen to date). Nikon loves to bury features in menu’s of menus too much.
    I own SB-910 but making quick changes is near impossible, the whole interface just sucks, the light itself however is wonderful but too pricey and lacks internal RF ability. If mitros+ had existed when I bought my first speed-light, I would have picked phottix. I look forward to the Odin II + Mitros+ combo. Maybe the Indra as well if that ever happens, price range is a little to close to the cost of a much more compact and highly efficient Profoto B1.
    Anyone know if they plan on selling the light Separate from the battery at least as an option? Are there any further details about the battery, such as is the inverter in the battery or the studio head?

    Sony camera body is an attractive plan B option for when i need to travel light and not have customs spend 35 minutes asking dumb questions about my gear. I hope whatever issues phottix has with them are addressed, but if the plan b is actually your A-game camera then you should have a plan b ready just in case. It’s something i plan to work on, that’s for sure.

    Love your site Flash havoc, I pass it around to my photo buddies.

  22. Richard 2 years ago

    Any update on these, would love to try one for a fashion shoot coming up in December on location strictly for HSS

  23. Richard 2 years ago

    I have tried contacting the company several times and can not get a response, not sure how that makes me feel if this is also how they respond to support.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Richard,

      Where did you try to contact them? Thanks.

      • Richard 2 years ago

        Directly on the company website and FB page.

  24. Any Light Photography 2 years ago

    I’ve also contacted their official website, their official facebook page.. with absolutely no response…

    I asked Dodd Camera in my area if they get the same response and they confirmed…

    that’s just not a good sign…..

    I tried my best to wait for the Indra.. it looks amazing.. but their communication stinks which officially turned me off them..

    I had hoped to use 3 indra 500s for a wedding last week (stormy dark area).. I ended up with 2 Profoto B1.. and the support from Profoto so far been incredible..

  25. Author
    Flash Havoc 2 years ago

    Are you guys by any chance just asking when the flash is going to be available?

    If that’s the case I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t keep continually trying to answer those questions.

    If there have ever been issues with the flashes or triggers etc, they have replaced them very quickly.

    And that attitude has basically been chalk and cheese compared to what I’ve had to deal with with many of the other companies.

    Richard if you still want to get in touch with them just let me know and I can help you get in touch.

    • JH Photo 2 years ago

      There are hints on the inter-webs that delivery probably won’t occur until Q1 of 2015, if not Q2.
      I would not expect any units on the shelves until december 2014 at the earliest. I suspect they will probably try to time the release of the Indra with the new Odin II controller. Odin is estimated to be in Q1 of 2015.

      • Author
        Flash Havoc 2 years ago

        Hi JH Photo,

        They said they are finalizing the first production run at the moment.

        What that actually means as far as when they will ship I don’t really know. And wouldn’t like to guess, because as we have seen with many products, there can always be delays that spring up in the mean time.

        I doubt they are holding off in any way to coincide with the Odin II release though.

  26. Any Light Photography 2 years ago

    I did ask..

    Since we are all photographers here.. we all know that the first communication between client and customer is important…

    I did ask when in October it would be available since I would be investing in the Odin, and 3 Indra in order to shoot a low light wedding in the middle of October..

    0 Response is still not acceptable in my books.. a simple email saying they may not deliver before November would have been nice.. as I was ready to invest a nice 2500 into their setup

    • Keano 2 years ago

      I have emailed them 2x and 1x on FB and never heard back. What I can tell you is there US (if you live in states) distributor is very fast to respond and help. http://www.omegabrandess.com/news/news_5

  27. Jennimac4 2 years ago

    Ordered a couple multi booms from their store on October 3, 2014. They took my money, but never sent the merchandise. As of today, October 23, 2014, have had no luck getting any response from either store@phottix.com or sales@phottix.com. Thinking it is about one to contact PayPal as the situation is starting to smell like a scam to me even though I can’t find any info online that would lead me to believe this could be the case regarding this company… They seem to have some pretty amazing products with great reviews but I after this experience I don’t feel very confident ordering from them and being half a world away…

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Jennimac4,

      I’m not sure what has happened there, but I’ll let them know to contact you.

  28. Hussain 2 years ago

    That’s why I went with the Profoto B1 even though is costs $700 more. I’ve contacted them through their customer service, FB page, Blog and Twitter and they always respond almost immediately and always ensure the problem is solved. Add to that the fact that the B1 is cordless which is a huge advantage.

  29. Earle 2 years ago

    For what it’s worth, here in the U.S. B&H is now taking preorders for the Indra 500 at $1295.00 of course for TTL one would still have to buy into the Odin trigger system.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1089949-REG/phottix_indra500_ttl_studio_light.html

  30. Joshim 2 years ago

    I saw this in person at the PhotoPlus Expo in NYC. This thing is beautifully built, feels tough as nails, and high end in every way. Can’t wait to order this with the new Odin II trigger!

  31. Any Light Photography 2 years ago

    to be honest, I’ve been following this as a good cheap backup to my B1s .. but BH had them coming Nov 17th and now its being pushed to mid December… They should have just said Q1 2015 instead of agitate some of their potential customers..

  32. JH Photo 2 years ago

    Phottix Indra-500 and various kit accessories now available at Adorama.

  33. António 2 years ago

    It’s already available in Phottix Store.
    ANd the price a lit bit lower than announced.

    I can’t make up my mind about this or the B1.. : /

  34. richard 2 years ago

    I would like to know if the output of power drops as shutter speeds start getting above 1/2000 up to max 1/8000. Since it uses pulse much like a speedlight I would love to think the output is consistent all the way up. If so.. sold.

  35. richard 2 years ago

    any news on the cost of extra battery or purchasing the ac adapter or additional battery pack? Looked on the site and they show them, B&H does not show any accessories.

  36. Mike 2 years ago

    B&H finally has these in stock. I should have mine tomorrow!!

  37. keano 2 years ago

    Hi Flash Havoc,
    Which has the better HSS the Indra or the Rovelight in your opinion?
    Thanks

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi keano,

      I haven’t really had a chance to study on a plain surface what the Indra is doing yet, though from a few quick shots it does appear to be quite even, (like the flash is pulsing).

      The big practical difference between them though is the Indra has TTL. So as an off camera fill flash they work exactly like you would generally want a speedlight to if they weren’t often completely under powered in HSS mode (when using any modifiers anyway). So the Indra are potentially a big a advantage to wedding photographers etc when doing some run and gun out in bright ambient light.

      The Rovelights on the other hand are likely around a stop more power in HSS (I haven’t checked this in an detail yet), and they are around half the price. So the Indra have the speed advantage, while the Rovelights have the bang for buck power.

      Again I need to study this more carefully, though both lights appear to keep banging away in HSS mode without any major limitation like the Witstro AD360 have. The CononMk K4T do not have a fan like the Indra, so I’m not sure how well that will hold up in HSS mode yet either.

      • keano 2 years ago

        Thanks for that feedback.
        “it does appear to be quite even, (like the flash is pulsing).” — Is that a better way off HSS over the Rovelights long exposure? In your experience so far (do you use a Nikon) has the Indra’s exposure in TTL been close to 0? IF you had a choice would you choose the Indra360 over the 500? I have the Flashpoint Streaklight 360 (love it). So if I exchange the Rovelight another 360 but has TTL/HSS over the Streaklight with Odin that is: $1100. Indra500 = $1400.

        Side note: Is there a way to subscribe to a thread here so if there are new replies I get an email?

      • Keano 2 years ago

        This just came out http://youtu.be/5Ph2Abt1aKg

  38. Travis Tank 2 years ago

    I purchase this light 3 weeks ago and its already busted. Was using it at a wedding and it just stopped working, then the ready button stopped even turning green. I am taking it to my camera store which I bought it at tomorrow in hopes they can help me get it repaired. Well see how well their customer service really is. Wish me luck.

    • Keano 2 years ago

      Ouch. Was the battery fully charged? Didn’t fall just stopped.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Travis,

      That’s not good to hear, though thanks for the feedback. Let us know how it goes, and if you find out what the issue was thanks.

      And good luck :-)

  39. ellery 2 years ago

    Has any one done a review of this. ?

  40. kristian 2 years ago

    I got a Indra 500 mid-April.
    Since that time it was not possible to obtain just a single properly exposed picture.

    The Indra always delivers highly overexposed image at TTL metering (EV + 3.5)
    I always compare the images with 4 parallel setted Mitros +. Same distance same white background
    The Mitros + delivers correct exposure. The 580 EX with an Odin receiver produce correct exposure too!
    The flashes are always triggered by an Odin. Of course, all software updates have been performed.

    Meanwhile, the Indra has been sent back to 2 x Phottix. The first time the flash tube was also defective. Why the lightning has stopped after a few trips to work.
    Phottix find no error !
    Allegedly they are working still on a program update.

    I use a Canon 5 D II and I have tested the same settings with a Canon 1D III with exactly the same result

    Is here someone who has the similar problem?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Kristian,

      Thanks, I have replied to your email. For others following this though, you can set -3 stops FEC directly on the Indra itself, which for now is one simple way to bring it in to line with the speedlites etc.

      There have been varying reports of the Indras TTL exposures, possibly due to different camera models, though I have seen this 3 stop issue from the beginning with the Canon 6D and 7D.

      Some people have been trialing new beta firmware for the Indra, so Phottix are working on updates.

  41. Ryan Beuke 2 years ago

    I saw in an announcement yesterday that Phottix is moving away from the Bowens mount in favor of a the Elinchrome mount in new modesl going forward due to a new partnership. Do you have any information on this as that is a downer due to how much that will cut back on the number of modifiers we can use with these products.

    They did say they will have some sort of Sekonic radio for use with their light monitors which is nice.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Ryan,

      I don’t know if they are moving exclusively to the Elinchrom mount, they haven’t really stated that. They don’t have much detail available on what is going to happen yet unfortunately as the engineers are still in discussion at the moment.

      Yes the Sekonic cooperation, and combined radio signal with Elinchron should hopefully be a big advantage.

  42. Ulysses 2 years ago

    Hi, Elv.

    I’m testing the Phottix system with an Indra500 TTL, an Odin, and a Mitros+. All have the latest firmware, as far as I can tell.

    One minor issue I’m seeing is this: When I trigger the Indra500 with the Mitros+ I need to dial in at least +1.7 stops more power than I dial in on the Odin.
    (see image at http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-XbHq4w8/0/O/i-XbHq4w8.jpg )

    This isn’t a deal breaker, as far as I’m concerned for now. Is there any simple reason why the Odin and the Mitros+ would not be more consistent to one another when triggering the Indra500 strobe?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Ulysses,

      To be honest I have no idea why Phottix released the Indra like this, the Canon mode is similar.

      Though the Indra have their own FEC adjustment, so you can just set +1.7 on the Indra itself and then use the master flash / TCU as normal. So in that regard its not been a big issue really.

      I have read some people mention they didn’t need the added FEC when used outside in bright ambient light, though I haven’t had a chance to confirm when and why that may be the case as yet.

      • Ulysses 2 years ago

        In a simple portrait situation, this inconsistency between the exposures triggered by the Odin TCU and the Mitros+ wouldn’t be a big deal. But it can become an issue if you are shooting with multiple cameras triggering the same Indra500. Or perhaps a wedding photographer and shooting assistant are each triggering the Indra — one of them with an Odin and maybe the other with a Mitros+. It seems that you’re never able to actually get the Indra to fire its FULL power when triggered with the Mitros+. You can even hear it by the faster recycle time after firing a 1/1 shot with the Mitros+. Because the Indra500 has plenty of power, this inconsistency may not always be experienced by all photographers. When you do your review, I’d recommend taking a close look at this. I’m hoping I’m missing something. Or maybe my particular usage is out of the ordinary.

        As for the color inconsistency: A closer look at the user manual does in fact say: “Color temperature: 5600±200K (Color temperature may vary at low power settings)”, which is exactly what I was experiencing. Oh well… I guess we simply have to deal with that one as Phottix already knows about it.

  43. Ryan Beuke 2 years ago

    Any idea on when you may release your review of this unit? Seems like most of the reviews on the net are few and far between. Most are just opinions without much of a testing methodology like you usually release!

  44. Author
    Flash Havoc 2 years ago

    Hi Ryan,

    Realistically its going to be a while still, though I am going to put aside the speedlites to a large degree for now and get stuck into the CononMK K4T Leopard and then the Indra.

  45. John O'Neill 2 years ago

    Not having a version for Sony A7/7r series cameras was a huge miss in my opinion. I am a commercial pro that needs more portability for location work. Given that the phottix flash had the potential to compliment a system which is leading the way in portability and cutting edge technology and one which is most likely going to appeal to location photographers who actually need reduced weight and HSS, this doesn’t make sense!

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi John,

      As Ulysses mentions below, although its not been formally announced, Phottix’s intention was to provide Sony support for the Indra eventually.

      That was likely to be through a firmware update for the current lights, though I wouldn’t bank on anything until its actually available. With Phottix collaborating with Elinchrom now I don’t know how they may have possibly effected plans either.

      I’m sure Phottix will produce an Odin II transmitter for Sony with Multi Interface Shoe and Indra support eventually, its just a matter of how long it will take with Phottix having a lot on their plate at the moment.

  46. Ulysses 2 years ago

    In fairness, the Sony A7-series cameras didn’t rise in popularity until approximately one year ago, after having been introduced to the world in only Q4 2013. Phottix already has the Mitros+ for Sony, and sorta has support with a hot shoe adapter. I’d expect them to provide further support in the future via a firmware upgrade to the Indra and even better hardware support going forward.

  47. Matthew 1 year ago

    Great website; content, format, images, discussion, all make for a refreshing and enlightening visit!

    I have been following the Phottix Indra 500 thread for a while as I save $$ and narrow portable studio lighting options. At its price point, is it still preferred?

    -work by myself; seeking a portable strobe(s) that can be left unattended and unattached. I like the AC/Battery pack flexibility, power, apparent build quality, and HSS TTL. Would love to gain experienced feedback on reliability, workability, and quality. I shoot with 5d3 and 7d.

  48. Ulysses 1 year ago

    Matthew, your question “Is it still preferred?” I assume is in reference to the Indra500 and related components. I have both the Indra500 system as well as several Godox/CheetahStand lights (CL-360, CL-600, and V850 lights). Although there’s obviously some overlap, I generally use these two lighting systems for different things.

    The Godox/Cheetah system is simply rock solid, at least in their all-manual versions. I’ve never ever seen them misfire or miss a beat unless I made a mistake somewhere. They’re powerful, and they’re consistent. We have no way of knowing if the TTL version will be just as reliable, but I would expect so.

    The Indra500 and Odin and Mitros+ system is also fairly reliable, but I find not quite to the same degree as the Godox/Cheetah. While they’re more powerful, they can also exhibit color shift depending upon your power level, and sometimes due to the system simply being more complicated by TTL and HSS there are simply more variables to consider when something goes wrong. I enjoy using them in real-world applications, though. Most of the errors I experienced have been during informal TESTING, but not nearly as problematic during real-world shooting, particularly outdoors.

    The CheetahStand CL-360 lights are lighter weight than the Indra500 system. The Indra500 system is sturdier. The CheetahStand CL-360 has more pieces to keep track of and put together and tear down. The Indra500 system is just a joy as it’s even more simple to put together and tear down.

    If I’m in a run-n-gun situation, the CL-360 is lighter and easier to transport during the shoot for ME and my shooting partner. If I’m bringing the Indra500, it’s always on a light stand, although I have colleagues who put it on a lightstick. That’s fine for them, but I know my partner wouldn’t do well with using it that way. YMMV.

    They are BOTH quality systems, and I enjoy both. But at different times.

  49. Matthew 1 year ago

    Ulysses,

    Thank you for your thoughtful response. I wonder if you use any type of light modifiers with the Godox/Cheetah lights? If so, do you find their power sufficient to gain adequate distance from your subject for multiple shots without adjusting?

    Using dual mounted Canon 580’s with dish, my light stand is often competing for image space with my subject due to close proximity (outside). Churches, 2 story rooms, or dark ceilings/walls, they are severely under powered and limit the range of expression available to me as I shoot.

    The portability of the Godox AD360 is tempting, yet if tempering the light, I wonder if there is enough power?

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