SHANNY – SN600SC Speedlite – Hands on Review

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New Chinese flash and radio trigger manufacturer Shanny have kicked off to an impressive start, with their second speedlite model the SN600SC now available.

SN600SC are the first on and off camera ETTL flash model available from Shanny. And just one of a number of full TTL and HSS enabled Shanny flash models soon to be released, for both Canon and Nikon.

All based on the same (very Canon 600EX-RT like) design platform.

The SN600SC are an interesting (and likely significant) flash model though, as they can transform function with the addition of an optional clip on radio receiver module. Update, please see below –

 

UPDATE August 2015– PLEASE NOTE – The SN-E3-MD receivers (RT Modules) originally planned for the SN600SC have now been cancelled.

Shanny originally planned to produce  an additional external clip on SN-E3-MD radio receiver modules, which would transform the SN600SC flash into a Canon RT compatible slave flash.

This receiver module would also have provided a USB port allowing firmware updates to the SN600SC flash, which otherwise do not include their own USB port.

After being pushed back a number of times, Shanny also confirmed numerous times the SN-E3-MD would still be produced. In August 2015 Shanny have confirmed the SN-E3-MD have unfortunately been cancelled. 

 

UPDATE – May 2015 – The SN600SC are no longer compatible with YongNuo YN-622C manufactured from January 2015. And Shanny have now decided against ongoing compatibility support for YongNuo products.

 

SHANNY SN600SC

 

The SN600SC do not actually come with any built in radio function (keeping the price low), though with the addition of a clip on external radio receiver, their function is then transformed into a Canon RT compatible radio slave flash.

This provides a very economical flash option for the many current YongNuo YN-622C TTL radio trigger owners, while still leaving the option open for upgrading or transitioning to the more recent Canon RT radio system later.

YongNuo have their own YN600EX-RT flash available now (and Shanny have a similar model coming very soon too). Though the YN600EX-RT are priced closer to $180, where as the SN600SC are from around just $120.

And Shanny also have even lower priced (from around $90), full HSS, TTL, and YN-622C compatible flash model variations coming as well (SN600C & SN600N).

 

SHANNY SN600SC

 

Of course these are all great options for the many people just after an on-camera HSS TTL flash as well, and at less than a quarter of the Canon 600EX-RT price.

If the SN600SC flashes are any indication though, its clear that Shanny are very capable. And YongNuo now have some serious competition on their hands, on all fronts, and before the YN600EX-RT are even available.

 

SN600SC Features

 

  • Full Power – GN 62m (ISO 100 / 200mm)
  • HSS to 1/8000th
  • Flash Mode – ETTL /M / Multi
  • 1st Curtain Sync / 2nd Curtain Sync
  • FEC / FEB – 1/3rd Increments (±3 stops)
  • Manual Flash – 1/128 – 1/1 output control (1/3rd increments)
  • 20-200mm Auto and Manual Flash Zoom

 

  • Canon RT / Shanny Radio Slave Mode (with clip on SN-E3-MD receiver)
  • Master and Slave Modes for Canon Optic Wireless system
  • Slave Mode for Nikon Optic Wireless system
  • S1 & S2 Basic Optic Slave Modes

 

  • Full power recycle – from 1.8 seconds
  • Supports Multiple Flash Groups
  • Radio Channels – 4 to 16
  • Optic Channels – 4
  • Supports Canon Flash Control Menus
  • Custom Functions
  • Sound Prompt
  • Heat Protection
  • LCD Back Light Can be Kept On
  • Crop Sensor Auto Zoom Option

 

  • AF Assist Light
  • Full 360 Degree Swivel and Tilt Head (With Tilt Lock Button)
  • Large Clear Dot Matrix LCD Screen
  • Canon Like Interface
  • Fast Clamping Metal Foot with Locking Pin (And Clamps Well)
  • Good Build Quality

 

  • External Battery Port
  • PC Sync Port
  • 2.5mm Communication Port (for radio receiver)
  • No USB Port, Though Firmware Updates May be Possible Through Radio Receiver USB Port.

 

 

Limitations

  • No RT Radio Master Mode Possible
  • RT Radio Slave Mode Requires an External Receiver Unit
  • AF Assist Light is Good, But Not Great
  • No Compatibility with Phottix Odin or Pixel King Pro (YN-622C work well)

 

Overview

 

The new SN600SC (without the external radio receiver attached) basically provide the functions of a Canon 580EX II, though wrapped in a later body almost identical to the current Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite. The SN600SC provide Canon Optic Wireless Master and Slave modes, as well as a Nikon Optic Wireless Slave mode option.

With the addition of a small clip on Shanny SN-E3-MD radio receiver module, the SN600SC are also transformed into a Canon RT compatible radio slave flash (no radio master mode though).

The SN600SC also appear to be functioning very well with the YongNuo YN-622C / YN-622C-TX. Which will likely see the SN600SC as a desirable option for people looking for a full HSS TTL flash to use with their existing YN-622C system. While then still having the option of transitioning to the RT radio system later, should that become preferable (as may well be the case, with Shanny making improvements to the RT system).

Build Quality

The build quality and function of the SN600SC (and all similar Shanny flashes) appears surprisingly good. The case is almost identical to the Canon 600EX-RT, though you can see the plastic is a little bit less refined, and the buttons possibly a little harder to press etc. The main giveaway is likely the Shanny LCD screen is not as high a resolution, though its still easy to mix this flash up with the original Canon 600EX-RT without realizing.

Secure Clamping Foot

One of the things I find most significant though, is that the Shanny level lock clamping foot actually clamps tightly in the camera hotshoe, and does not allow the flash to slop around any more than the original Canon flash does.

The contact pins are also very pointed like the Canon pins, helping to reduce the possibility of any dust or oil preventing connection with the camera hotshoe contacts.

These are significant things when it comes to reliability, and this is exactly where YongNuo and Pixel struggle. The lever lock on the YongNuo YN-E3-RT transmitter, and Pixel Mago flash, both have quite loose clamping feet, and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the much awaited YongNuo YN-600EX-RT will have the same issue as well.

So its impressive Shanny have come straight out of the gates with a decent solid mount, especially considering some of these flashes will be priced from around $80. Phottix have also done a good job at this with the Mitros / +, though they are $300+ flashes.

 

SHANNY SN600SC


Tilt Lock

Another feature many third party flashes have been leaving out is a locking button for the flash tilt and swivel. Shanny have added a lock for the tilt motion only. And like the Canon 600EX-RT, this only locks into place when the flash head is pointed straight up, or faced directly forward.

I really don’t know if this is will end up being a good feature or not, as sometimes it is better to keep things like this simple so they can’t go wrong down the track. The locking button appears to work fairy well, though it does require more concentration to press the button in, disengaging the lock, than with the 600EX-RT.

Being for the tilt motion only, this lock doesn’t remove any stress on the flash foot when swiveling the flash head, as the 600EX-RT lock does. Nevertheless some people do find this feature important when mounting heavy modifiers like the original Lightsphere’s etc.

 

SHANNY SN600SC


TTL Exposures

I have a couple of the Shanny flash models here, and the SN600SC is a actually a pre-production version. The TTL exposures are very good and consistent already though (better than a number of production flashes that have been released recently).

There were a few small quirks, like the TTL exposures changing with increased camera ISO settings, though Shanny have assure these issues have already been fixed with production versions available now.

Otherwise the SN600SC (and similar Shanny flashes) are very impressive for the remarkably low price compared to the Canon 600EX-RT. The power can really match the Canon flash, and recycle is considerably faster. HSS provides more light than the 600EX-RT flash, and the SN600SC even outperformed the 600EX-RT in shots before heat protection cut in.

USB Port ?

The SN600SC do not actually have any direct USB port in the flash body for firmware updates. Though the optional clip on SN-E3-MD radio receiver does have a USB port for firmware updates. And Shanny are saying this port and radio module can then be used to update the flash firmware as well.

Although the YongNuo YN-622C TTL triggers work very well with the SN600SC, there is basically no compatibility with the Phottix Odin or Pixel King Pro.

 

Interface

 

The SN600SC (and other Shanny flash models) have an interface and LCD screen display very similar to the original Canon 600EX-RT. Quite noticeable though is the lower resolution of the Shanny screen, making the characters appear a little more pixelated.

The SN600SC do not display a distance scale like the 600EX-RT does though, so this leaves room for the rest of the details to be displayed larger on the Shanny LCD. The SN600SC also do not display the cameras aperture setting either, a camera symbol (lower left of the LCD screen) simply shows when the flash is in sync with the cameras settings.

The SN600SC’s LCD screen is also brighter than the Canon 600EX-RT’s default setting as shown below (or the brightest setting either).

 

SHANNY SN600SC


Up closer its easier to see the pixelated display. This is still very clear and easy to understand though.

Controls are very similar to the 600EX-RT. The Shanny buttons may be slightly harder to press, otherwise they are quite similar.

 

SHANNY SN600SC


Mode

The main Mode button simply scrolls through ETT, M (Manual), and MULTI modes.

Unlike the 600EX-RT the SN600SC does not have the Ext.A mode (or an auto metering sensor on the front of the flash).

 

SHANNY SN600SC

 

Wireless Button

The Wireless Button scrolls though the Canon Optic Wireless Master and Slave modes, Nikon Optic Wireless Slave mode, and the basic S1 and S2 optic slave modes.

S1 is a regular optic slave, which fires the flash from the light of any other flash. And S2 ignores pre-flashes, so a TTL flash can be used to optically trigger the SN600SC in sync as well. (S1 and S2 can only work with manual power settings).

 

SHANNY SN600SC

 

FEC (Flash Exposure Compensation)

FEC can be set directly on the flash with +3 or -3 stops of adjustment. Or via the cameras FEC adjustment.

Like the 600EX-RT, making an FEC setting on the flash overrides the cameras FEC setting.

And only FEC settings made directly on the flash are displayed as a number (+0.7 etc). FEC settings made on the camera are only shown via the scale and FEC symbol.

 

SHANNY SN600SC

 

Custom Functions

8 custom functions are accessible directly through the flash interface –

  • 01 – Auto Power Off
  • 03 – FEB Auto Cancel
  • 04 – FEB Sequence
  • 08 – AF Assist Beam Firing
  • 09 – Auto Zoom for Sensor Size
  • 10 – Slave Auto Power Off Timer
  • 20 – Sound ON / OFF
  • 22 – LCD Light – 12 seconds / ON  / OFF

 

And 2 more custom functions are accessible through the Canon External Flash Custom Functions Menu –

  • 02 – Modelling Flash Options
  • 06 – Quick Flash with Continuous Shot

 

A couple of these custom functions which are often absent on similar third party flashes, and appreciated with the SN600SC, are the option to leave the LCD back light on all the time, and Auto Zoom for Sensor size when using APSC crop sensor cameras.

 

SHANNY SN600SC

 

Unfortunately No.12 – Flash Recycle With External Power, is still not available with the SN600SC. That is the option to have the flash capacitor powered by an external battery pack only, saving the batteries inside the flash to run for long periods.

 

Battery Level Indicator

The SN600SC only show a battery level indicator symbol when the battery is running low.

Flash Power

 

As seen in the light pattern images bellow, it can be a little difficult to accurately measure and compare flash power between different speedlites, as the light patterns are not always even.

The SN600SC (and similar Shanny flashes) are still quite clearly matching the Canon 600EX-RT for light output though. Bouncing or diffusing the flashes in direct comparisons, the light meter readings are virtually even all the way around.

So the Shanny flashes can really match the Canon 600EX-RT for power, where many other third party flashes like the YN-568EX II etc are at least 2 or 3 tenths bellow.

 

Light Pattern

 

Below is a direct comparison of the light patters produced by the SN600SC and the Canon 600EX-RT at each flash zoom length.

These are all shot at the same 17mm lens zoom length (on a Canon 7D), so that the full light patterns can be seen.

The SN600SC results are quite good, and closer to the Canon 600EX-RT than many other third party flashes.

(These are all shot at 5500K, so this also provides some idea of the color difference between the 2 flashes as well).

 

SHANNY SN600SC


And below are some tests showing the flash zoom matched to a full frame camera lense zoom.

 

SHANNY SN600SC

Manual Power Levels

 

Accuracy between the SN600SC manual power levels are very good, all within 1 tenth of a stop between levels.

Even the Canon flash shows some variation here, with 1.3 stops between 1/2 and full power.

These results were recorded with the flashes mounted in a softbox to avoid any hot spots, and in exactly the same position and settings etc. The SN600SC equals or betters the 600EX-RT output at any power level.

 

SHANNY SN600SC CANON 600EX-RT
Diff. EV Diff. EV
1/1 F 16 F 16
0.9 1.3
1/2 F 11 + 0.1 F 8 + 0.7
1.0 1.0
1/4 F 8 + 0.1 F 5.6 + 0.7
0.9 1.0
1/8 F 5.6 + 0.2 F 4 + 0.7
1.1 0.8
1/16 F 4 + 0.1 F 2.8 + 0.9
1.0 0.9
1/32 F 2.8 + 0.1 F 2.8
0.9 1.1
1/64 F 2 + 0.2 F 1.4 + 0.9
1.1 0.9
1/128 F 1.4 + 0.1 F 1.4
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ETTL Exposures

 

The SN600SC ETTL exposures appear to be very promising. The original flash tested here is a pre-production model, though already the exposures have been consistent.

There are no issues noted at different zoom lengths, or metering modes etc, as other flashes have suffered from recently.

There were a few issues discovered though, like flash exposures changing with ISO setting, and one FEC graduation being out from what it should be, though Shanny have assured the production versions available now have fixed any noted issues.

 

Recycle Time

 

The SN600SC’s full power recycle time is from around 1.8 seconds using a good set of Eneloop batteries. Compared to the Canon 600EX-RT at around 2.6 seconds with the same batteries.

This is quite an impressive difference as the Shanny flashes really are matching Canon for light output. So Shanny are not fudging anything or dialing down the light to achieve these faster recycle times.

And the SN600SC have a High Voltage Port for external battery packs, if faster recycle times are needed.

 

Overheat Protection

 

The SN600SC user manual states that after 20 shots the flash recycle will be slowed to protect the flash from overheat damage.

Though in practice, when compared directly with the Canon 600EX-RT, I found the SN600SC would outperform Canon’s aprox 47 full power shot limit before shutting down the flash in overheat protection mode.

The SN600SC’s full recycle time indicator does slow well before the full shutdown. Though the flash would still fire on the early quickflash ready indicator, and this showed no loss in light compared to waiting for the full recycle indicator. So in practice this still produces more shots than the 600EX-RT.

After 50 or 60 shots the flash will shut down though to cool for 10 minutes or so.

 

Flash Duration

 

There is nothing particularly notable about the SN600SC’s flash durations. Most speedlites, being IGBT flashes, have a fairly long flash duration at full power, and increasingly very short durations at lower power levels.

Due to the long duration at full power, most speedlites lose around 3/10ths of a stop of light from around 1/160th shutter speed moving up to a 1/250th maximum x-sync speed. The Canon 600EX-RT results are shown below, and the SN600SC are results are quite similar to this.

600EX-RT Flash Duration

Color & Consistency

 

As seen in the flash pattern images further above, the SN600SC have a slightly cooler colour temperature than the Canon 600EX-RT.

There is also very little colour change at different power levels, as speedlites generally do not suffer much from colour shift issues at different power levels.

 

AF Assist Light

 

Shanny have implemented their own unique AF assist light pattern. This is a single AF light for all focus points, unlike the Canon 600EX-RT, which use a more sophisticated second light pattern when outer AF points are selected.

The Shanny AF light is probably a little better than the recent AF lights found in the YN-622C-TX (and likely current YongNuo flash models), in that there is not quite as much gap in the light pattern for a focus point to fall completely between any pattern.

These samples where taken at 1.8m (or 6 feet) from the subject, and at the zoom lengths as noted.

 

SHANNY SN600SC

 

For on-camera flash use, practicality of the AF assist light is likely one of the biggest differentiating features between the less expensive third party flash options, and the Canon and Nikon etc flashes.

These AF lights are slowly becoming more refined and practical though, and the recent YongNuo and Shanny lights are generally still quite reasonable now. Though Canon do still have a good advantage here at this stage.

 

Ports

 

Following the Canon 600EX-RT design, the SN600SC (and similar Shanny models) all provide a screw lock PC sync port, and a high voltage external Battery port.

The third socket shown to the right, is a threaded mounting point for the Canon SB-E2 reporter style flash brackets. This is a fine thread, not a regular 1/4″ 20 thread for attaching to umbrella swivels etc.

Just out of the top right of the frame is also a 2.5mm mini-phone style socket. The SN600SC use this is a communication port for attaching an external Shanny radio receiver, and not a wireless shutter release port as the 600EX-RT provides.

 

SHANNY SN600SC

Battery Compartment

 

Again Shanny have closely followed Canon’s design with the battery compartment and door. The door has the same sliding release button, and even a rubber weather seal like the Canon flash.

The batteries follow the same Canon format as well, and this all helps for people used to using the 600EX-RT already, or using both flashes together.

 

SHANNY SN600SC

 

Other Third party TTL Radio Trigger Compatibility

 

YongNuo YN-622C - The SN600SC appear to be very compatible with the YongNuo YN-622C and YN-622C-TX.

Some quirks may be discovered with more and different use, though I have checked most of the issues previously noted with other flashes, and haven’t seen same problems with the SN600SC.

The SN600SC are so far looking to be a great economical flash option used with the current YN-622C, while still providing the option of later upgrading to the Canon RT radio system (via an additional Shanny SN-E3-MD radio receiver module).

UPDATE – May 2015 – The SN600SC are no longer compatible with YongNuo YN-622C manufactured from January 2015. And Shanny have now decided against ongoing compatibility support for YongNuo products.

 

SHANNY SN600SC

 

Phottix Odin – Have no compatibility with the SN600SC at all (Odin receivers will not even fire them).

Pixel King Pro – Only fire the SN600SC at the manual power setting set on the flash (even in TTL mode). No other functions or remote control.

 

Shanny / Canon RT Radio Trigger Compatibility

 

SN-E3-MD Receiver

 

UPDATE August 2015– PLEASE NOTE – The SN-E3-MD receivers (RT Modules) originally planned for the SN600SC have now been cancelled.

Shanny originally planned to produce  an additional external clip on SN-E3-MD radio receiver module, which would transform the SN600SC flash into a Canon RT compatible slave flash.

This receiver module would also have provided a USB port allowing firmware updates to the SN600SC flash, which otherwise do not include their own USB port.

After being pushed back a number of times, Shanny also confirmed numerous times the SN-E3-MD would still be produced. In August 2015 Shanny have confirmed the SN-E3-MD have unfortunately been cancelled.

 

Shanny SN600S

 

The Shanny SN-E3-MD radio receiver modules would  also have a USB port in the base for firmware updates for both the flash and receiver.

SN-E3-MD

 

SN-E3-RT Transmitter

 

The Shanny SN-E3-RT transmitter unit should also be available very soon (Update – Now available).

At this stage we know the SN-E3-RT will provide extra functions over the Canon ST-E3-RT, including Canon Optic Wireless transmission as well as the 2.4GHz Canon RT radio transmission. And an AF assist light, and a USB port for firmware updates are also provided.

The SN-E3-RT also provided a unique high-resolution TFT color screen, where you can even select your own font and background colours. As well as being dimmable.

 

SHANNY SN-E3-RT

SHANNY SN-E3-RT

 

SN600S Slave Flash

 

And this is probably an appropriate time to mention the other of Shanny’s first two flash models available, as the SN600S are the other Shanny flash model also compatible with the SN-E3-MD radio receiver module mentioned above. UPDATE – 27 October 2014 – Shanny have now decided the SN600S model will not be compatible with the coming SN-E3-MD receiver.

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The SN600S use basically the same flash body as the SN600SC, though they are around $20 to $30 cheaper. This is because the SN600S are basically a slave flash only, on camera the will only operate as a basic manual flash.

The SN600S have full TTL and HSS capable slave modes for both the Canon and Nikon Optic Wireless System (no master modes).

SHANNY SC600S

The SN600SC have a single firing pin foot, so if mounted on a camera hotshoe the will only operate as a basic manual flash. And this is the same with TTL triggers like the YN-622C etc.

 

SHANNY SC600SC

 

 

Accessories

 

As with most current speedlites, the SN600SC come with a plastic base stand, and a padded case. No diffuser cap is provided, though Canon 600EX-RT size accessories will fit the Shanny flash head.

Again Shanny have provided that little bit extra, with the padded flash case having a strong velcro belt loop on the back (though I don’t know how practical the orientation is).

And even the boxes the Shanny flashes come in are a nice solid box, with a solid lid that slides off the top. So these are actually practical boxes to keep using with the flashes.

SHANNY SC600SC

 

The included Shanny user manuals are nothing flashy, though they are quite easy to understand in English compared to Pixel or YongNuo manuals etc.

SN600SC – User Manual

 

SN600SC ompared To

 

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At the time of writing this things are changing fairly quickly, as YongNuo will have their long awaited YN600EX-RT flash coming soon as well.

YongNuo YN-568EX II -

The SN600SC would be a very economical alternative to the current YongNuo YN-568EX II, providing an external battery port the YN-568EX II do not have. As well as an overall more contemporary design, and a little more power. The YN-568EX II still have the reassurance of guaranteed compatibility with the YN-622C though if that is important to you.

Pixel Mago -

The recent Pixel Mago are an even slightly lower priced flash option, with 580EX II style features. The SN600SC are generally more refined though with a more solid clamping foot, and a standard Canon external battery port instead of a proprietary one as the Mago has. The SN600SC are compatible with the YN-622C, where the Mago are not. The Mago would be the best economical option for use with the Pixel King Pro though, where the SN600SC are not compatible there.

YongNuo YN600EX-RT – 

With Canon RT radio compatibility, the coming YN600EX-RT will clearly be another consideration. Though the YN600EX-RT would be more of a direct comparison with Shanny’s coming SN600EX model. The SN600SC basically provide a lower priced alternative to these, with RT slave compatibility possible only. From around $100 the SN600SC provide around half the starting price of these other RT compatible models.

 

SN600SC Specs

 

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Guide number: GN62(ISO100,200mm)

Wireless Flash: Radio transmission Slave, Optical pulse transmission Master/Slave

Flash mode: ETTL, M, MULTI

Zoom range: Auto, 2~200mm (When using wide angle dispersion plate is 14 mm)

High speed sync: 1/8000s

Master flash: Master optical pulse signal transmission

Slave flash:  Optical pulse SLAVE Canon/Nikon, light trigger

S1/S2, wireless SLAVE (Need to upgrade the software first)

Shutter synchronization: High Speed Sync, Front-curtain Sync and Rear Sync

Flash exposure compensation: Support (with an increment of 1/3 gear in +/-3 gear)

Bracket exposure: Support

Flash exposure lock: Support

Modeling flash: Support

AF assist-focus: Support

Manual flash:  1/128~1/1Hz (with an increment of 1/3 gear)

Frequency flash: 1~199Hz

Recycle time: Quick flash less than 2s, ordinary flash less than 3s

Wireless transmission distance: Radio, about 100m; optical pulse, about 20m

Radio transmission channels: Radio, 4~16; optical pulse, 4

Flash ratio: 8:1~1:1~1:8

Flash groups: Support for multiple flash grouping

Power supply: 4×AAsize batteries (Alkaline or Ni-MH is usable)

External interface: Hot-shoe, PC Sync Port, External Battery Port, Expansion Interface

Software upgrade: Support

Battery life: Flash 100~700 times

Measurement: 79.7(L)×142.9(W)×125.4(H)mm

Net weight: About 420g (not including batteries)

 

Compatible Cameras

 

Canon 1100D, 1200D, 550D, 500D/T1i, 350D, 600D, 650D, 700D, 60D, 70D, 7D ,7DII, 6D, 5D II, 5DIII

(NOT suitable for Canon 1D II, 1Ds II, 1D, 5D, 1000D )

Compatibility with other camera models still needs to be tested.

 

Summary

 

Shanny may be new to the flash and radio trigger business, though they are clearly very capable. There are not many companies in China with the ability to actually develop complex TTL radio triggers like the Shanny flash system will incorporate.

Having started later, and with a fresh page, Shanny can now provide a whole range of flashes, very economically from the one contemporary flash body (thanks to Canon’s hard work as well).

For the many people just looking for a more affordable on-camera flash alternative to the original Canon 600EX-RT, the SN600SC have taken bang for buck to a new level again, as they look to be a solid alternative at a small fraction of the price.

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

 

The SN600SC for Canon are available now for around $120 with shipping –

Ebay, Amazon, UK.

SN600S (Slave Flash Only) –

Ebay, Amazon, UK.

 

Shanny – Website, Aliexpress.

SN600SC – User Manual

Shanny – Flash Models Detailed

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140 Comments
  1. AL 2 years ago

    Thanks

  2. Mark 2 years ago

    If I own a speed light transmitter S T E three RT and a 600 ex-rt, will this Shanny flash work wirelessly with that transmitter or do I have to buy a radio receiver for the flash? Thanks

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Mark,

      If you want to use a Canon RT transmitter then you would currently need the Shanny SN600C-RT flash model (around $130). That flash has the Canon RT compatible radio slave built inside. You should be able to purchase the current version of the SN600C-RT now directly from Shanny.

      (The first version SN600C-RT flash had some range issues and Shanny stopped selling them, though there may still be stock in some stores. So its best to check with any seller before buying).

      If you have the SN600SC or other Shanny ETTL flash, then you could use the new YongNuo YNE3-RX receiver to make the flash compatible with the Canon RT transmitter units or 600EX-RT master.

      Shanny are (or at least were) planning their own RT compatible receiver module which clips on the side of the SN600SC flash. Last I heard the RT receiver was due around mid year, and Shanny do still intend to produce it. Though I get the feeling its pretty low priority now and could possibly keep getting pushed back. So I’m a little nervous about expecting that receiver.

  3. Scott Rogers 2 years ago

    I am not seeing the SN600C-RT available. Is there a supplier with the new batch in stock yet?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Scott,

      I just checked with Shanny and they will likely make the new SN600C-RT and SN-E3-RT available directly from them within a week.

      They are going to send samples here to test first before selling any bulk orders to dealers this time. So it may be around the end of the month that dealers have these if all goes ok.

  4. Reginald 2 years ago

    Thanks for the great review on the Shanny speedlight. I finally received mine in the mail on yesterday and began playing around with it and it’s great – except!

    When I turn the unit off and then back on again, all of the settings revert back to the default settings. So you have to go through the menu items again and reset everything, include the radio channels and mode, etc. The custom functions seem to remain intact. This is such a bummer. I even went to their website to see if there was maybe a firmware update or something, but nothing. So I’m sending it back and will opt for the Yongnuo 600EX-RT. At least it will work fine with my Yongnuo YN-E3-RT transmitter that I’m currently using on my Canon 600EX-RT.

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Reginald,

      Something is wrong there, as all of my setting remain, even if the batteries have been removed.

      I just tried a few Shanny flashes that I haven’t had batteries in them for weeks, and they still retain their setting as they were last used.

      Amanda is at the CE&PE trade show in Russia, though she should be back in a few days and I could check on this then if you haven’t sent the flash back yet.

      • Sterling Steves 2 years ago

        My second sn-600c just had the ttl stop working properly. The flash fires but I believe it is after the shutter closes. Works in manual mode. Very saddened as these guys have been super up until now. Is there some way to reset these to factory default? I’m a pro and use flash heavily for events and the 2 of these I have are my workhorses – or were. Can’t have them failing on me like this. I have a v860 and a 565ex too though that I will have to be sure to carry handy for any flash dependent shoots.

        • angel 7 months ago

          is there a way to reset to factory settings- mine just quit working and i can’t seem to change any of the functions.

  5. aris 2 years ago

    hi is the shanny SN600SC Speedlite or any other model compatible with the flex and the mini from pocket wizard including hss and ttl sunctions

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi aris,

      Sorry I’m not sure about the SN600SC and TT5 compatibility. And I haven’t really kept up with the other flashes there either.

      The Nissin Di866 II are one flash that are compatible, as PocketWizard were recommending those as an alternative to the 580EX II’s radio noise issues with the TT5.

  6. aris 2 years ago

    Functions.Sorrrrrrry

  7. daniel 2 years ago

    thank you for the review. you are the best on the web for flashes review.. I bought one SN 600 sc and my flash doesn’t show aperture. it is a good thing to loose? I didn’t understand the reason why flash have aperture on display . and how can i calculate the distance of flash? ( from flash to my subject) thank you

  8. imagonman 2 years ago

    Well badphoto and FLAShavoc FYI I have finally acquired the Sn600SC and have found the same problems with the Canon 550ex as you have. It works great in ettl modes but limited in Manual modes. A+B+C from the 50d camera control menu fires all 3 of my 550’s. A:B works like a charm as well. A:B:C Nothing fires dead as a doornail! Using the Shanny as slave to the 550 Master, well it works intermittently. Sometimes yes, mostly NO! I did find 1 peculiar thing about this. Don’t know what possessed me to do this but when I put my hand over the flash to PARTIALLY block some of the light, NOT completely though, from the 550ex it fired the Shanny 600sc slave.?????? Can’t figure that one out? Also, the menu 2 function to turn off the master flash during exposure {master disabled} button on the Shanny works sporadically as well. These conditions were identical on BOTH Sn600sc ‘s that I’ve had here. and NO I do not have any other Canon EX flashes to check, just the 3 550ex’s. Don’t know why 2 Shanny 600SC’s are exhibiting the same exact anomalies w/ the 550ex’s. One would assume that the Canon Optical System should work or NOT work at all whether a 550ex, 580, 430 ,420 or 600. Canon flashes all the way up to the current 600ex-rt are ALL compatible in Optical mode. Why this Shanny would work w/ newer Canon EX series and not ALL EX is confusing. What about the 550ex is not compatible w. Shanny but ‘stated by Canon’ to work with All Canon EX masters or slaves is beyond reason. I will try 1 more Shanny [3rd one} to see if the identical issues remain concerning the 550ex or not. – See more at: http://flashhavoc.com/shanny-sn600sc-speedlite-review/comment-page-1/#comments

    • badphoto 2 years ago

      Thanks for taking time to test 2 units. I only had enough time to test one and returned it shortly afterwards. I also saw your review at Amazon. I guess at this point we have to wait until Shanny comes out with a mature version. By the way if you need a small trigger/on camera flash for your 550ex’s, try the Meike 320, with these major caveats: 1. No HSS as sole on camera flash; 2. As master optical it does HSS, but only flashes to trigger the slaves, it does not contribute to the exposure. 3. Advertised guide number of “32 at 105mm) is bogus – no zoom to 105, real guide number at fixed 24mm coverage is about 26(meter).

  9. imagonman 2 years ago

    Well badphoto, I’ve foregone trying a 3rd 600sc & instead opted to try out the SN-E3-RTrt as a master controller for the 550EX’s. The SN-E3-RT as an optical master w/ access to the Canon flash menu in camera [50d in this case} works in all modes of operation like it is supposed to. Why the 600sc does NOT work at all in Manual A:B:C and the E3-RT does is baffling??????????

    One would expect BOTH to operate the Canon optical system w/o issue. Though as we’ve both experienced almost identical issues on multiple SN600SC units it seems this is definitely NOT the case.

    Perhaps flashhavoc could ask CS at Shanny as to why this is the case?? Will the long awaited Sn600EX-RT work or not work with all slaves in both optical AND RT regardless of models that are compatible in either operating mode?{optical or radio}

  10. badphoto 2 years ago

    Imagon

    Sorry to hear you had to spend the money for the SN-E3-RT just to use optical wireless with the 550ex. Not an ideal solution, since it’s not an on camera flash, and as reported by Elv on this site, when you decide to use Shanny’s RT radio system, GR mixed mode is not available for the 550ex. The only total radio solution for the 550ex is the Yongnuo 622 system, but that leaves on camera flash in question, since the Shanny 600’s compatibility with the YN 622 is uncertain, while so far Shanny is the only flash with under 2 sec recycle without external battery pack, making it ideal for on camera.

    Maybe the coming Shanny 600exRT will have all these problems fixed and serve as an all in one on camera flash with both optical/radio capabilities and quick recycle time?

    For my current needs right now, the Meike 320 works fine as a small, unobstrusive on camera flash, and if more power is needed, I can whip out a full sized 550ex, hold it in one hand, and firing it ETTL optically. The weak point is still the recycle time though, and it would be perfect if the Meike 320 can contribute to exposure as fill, but it cannot.

    • imagonman 2 years ago

      Well looking @ the Meike 320 is not an option too much$$$ for what it is & does. Another option I found is the Pixel Mago. Just got 1 today and it works like a Canon Master is supposed to! No issues at all w/ the 550ex’s in any mode!! AND the price well I got mine for $37 shipped , can’t beat that w/ a stick, EH! AND if I want to go to radio the Pixel king Pro system is supposed to have the best range and full group ETTL and Manual mix capabilities as well. yes it a another piggyback RT piece of equipment w another interface connection that is not a slick as a built in RT ready to go, but at this point seems functional and works w whatever flash is attached to it. I.E. no incompatibility issues across different manufacturers systems like the present either! and in the end the price is about equal to or less than Yongnuo, shanny etc where your current flashes are probably not going to work 100% w either of those systems or the Canon RT either. Without having to dump a boat load of money or sell off at a loss your present flash line-up. Especially when one owns multiple speedlites [ 4-5-6-7+} that is just too much hassle and loss in $ to justify. Why dump perfectly working lights a t a loss when they can be used w a Radio system that integrates the present as well as any future flashes one may acquire down the road w/o having to break the bank! Light is light after all……… Just my opinion and observations!

  11. imagonman 2 years ago

    Well the whole purpose is to be able to use both Optical [for now] AND as I slowly transition to radio [future]. That the 600sc is NOT fully compatible in ALL modes {Only A:B NOT A:B:C as far as the 550ex} w/ the entire Canon EX line is a mystery. The e3-RT works as optical master in all modes yet the 600SC will not? As stated previously, does not make 1bit of sense! Either it works as proven by the e3-rt or does not as evident by the 600SC.

    At this point the 600ex-rt is 9 months late and Shanny is kicking the can further down the road. It is the end of June and NO word on having the 600ex-rt any time soon???
    I am beginning to believe Shanny having a WORKING 600ex clone system will not come to fruition any time soon.

    So at this point I believe that Shanny is NOT a reliable, viable alternative with too mnay delays and lack of a working system that can integrate with Canon Ex series flashes. Until they can prove a working system I will be looking to other [more expensive , i.e. Canon} alternatives that can do all that the Canon 600ex-rt provides. As of now to my knowledge, there is No alternative w functions on par with the Canon 600ex-rt . that being Full optical/radio master & slave functionality that works w/ the entire EX line!

    Shanny’s a bust!

  12. Joe 2 years ago

    “UPDATE – May 2015 – The SN600SC are no longer compatible with YongNuo YN-622C manufactured from January 2015″, has anyone tried the newer YN-622C’s on the SN600SC to see if they do work or not?

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi Joe,

      I’m not too sure what you mean there? It is the later YN-622C that do not work with the SN600SC. That was discovered by people trying to use them together.

      I’m not aware of any update to either making them compatible again. Maybe the coming YN-622C II could be different, though I wouldn’t expect that.

    • Yuppa 2 years ago

      I take the other side: I think the new(est) SN600SC was rendered incompatible by Shanny to protect their YouPro investment.

  13. imagonman 2 years ago

    UPDATE August 2015– PLEASE NOTE – The SN-E3-MD receivers (RT Modules) originally planned for the SN600SC have now been CANCELLED.

    NOW we have this announcement!

    As I stated previously I believe This company is a BUST!
    Promises that don’t come to fruition, multiple setbacks on release dates etc.

    Now all the people that put their trust in Shanny and purchased the 600sc with future hopes of sn-e3-md modules being compatible with the 600ex-rt mdl { if that ever becomes a reality, I highly doubt it now} are sh*t outta luck!!
    So are we all supposed to continue waiting on the 600ex-rt now? Maybe that will be scrapped as well?????? Looks like the plan of these systems is anything but at this point. Maybe next month…….YEAH RIGHT!
    Glad I didn’t wait on these dreamers and so are a lot of others I suppose that went with Youngnuo or others!
    Bye BYe Shanny…………………thanks again sooooo very much for wasting everyone’s time on what appears to be completely empty promises. Sayonora………………………………….oink!

    • Author
      Flash Havoc 2 years ago

      Hi imagonman,

      I have already spoken to Shanny and they said they will try and help SN600SC owners affected by this. I’m not sure what they are proposing yet, though SN600SC owners can contact christina at szshanny dot com.

      The SN600EX-RT have already been pushed back until possibly early next year now, so you don’t want to be holding out for that at the moment.

      The Shanny engineer is more proficient with the RF systems so they have switched their attention to those at the moment.

  14. thunder808hi 1 year ago

    These setbacks and cancellations is not helping Shanny. I bought two SN600SC in the hopes of future upgrade compatibility with the RT system. Now that I’ve had these for a couple of months, I can honestly say the build quality is crap especially the top plate where the pullout panel is situated. Mildly tugging/grasping at it when you change the flash head orientation, well it just pops off taking the screw joints with it. Piece of crap!

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