SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE SYSTEM – For Mega Speedboxes Announced

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

SMDV have announced the Zoom Bounce System, indirect mounting adjustable arm for the recently released Mega Speedbox series of 24 sided snap open parabolic reflectors.

And like the Mega Speedboxes, the Zoom Bounce arm will be available with a choice of mounts for Bowens, Profoto, Elinchrom, Broncolor, Hensel, Paul C Buff, and Multiblitz lights.

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

There also appears to be a slightly lighter duty version of the Zoom Bounce arm to become available, likely aimed at the smaller size Mega Speedlboxes.

 

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

The SMDV Mega Speedboxes will now be available in sizes ranging from 90cm, to 180cm.

And in either white or embossed silver versions.

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

SMDV ZOOM BOUNCE MEGA SPEEDBOX

 

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY 

 

The SMDV Zoom Bounce System is expected to be available in May 2018.

Contact SMDV USA for availability and pricing in the USA, or contact SMDV directly – smdv_info@naver.com

 

The SMDV Speedbox Mega-160, and Mega-180 are available now from approx $998 USD.

 

SMDV – Website

SMDV – USA

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10 Comments
  1. Paul 3 months ago

    So at the moment we have:

    24 sides:

    Broncolor (proprietary interior materials)
    Interesting fundamental differences between the small Paras (88 and 133) and the large Paras (177, 222, 330) — mostly with regard to the opening mechanisms, and fabric choices.

    “The opening mechanism in the small Paras is unique and obviously what’s responsible for their quick setup, but since the tension of the opening mechanism is set from the factory, a different type of fabric — one that would stay taut over its life span, had to be used. The fabric in the small Paras is more of a soft silver that is less specular than the fabric used in the large Paras — the soft silver fabric seems to be thicker and less prone to sagging. This is important because the tension kept on the rods in the smaller Paras isn’t adjustable like it is on the crank-based large Paras, where more tension can be placed on the rods through the crank as the fabric stretches over the Para’s lifetime. The shallower depth coupled with the softer, more light-diffusing fabric means that the “core” of the para does not get nearly as dark as it does on the larger paras with the more shiny silver fabric, so less of the wrapping ringlight effect occurs in the smaller ones.”

    SMDV (pebbled interior material)
    The exterior material seems flimsy.

    16 sides:

    Parabolix (pebbled interior material)
    The best 16 sides indirect parabolic modifiers in terms of build quality imo (they have to use an outside construction with velcro to accommodate the parabolic curve with 16 rods, Broncolor & SMDV get away with this using 24 rods)

    Cononmk

    Generic OEM “Parabolic”

    There’s a new chinese version on the horizon, similar mechanism.
    http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/SK-240FS-Deep-Parabolic-Umbrella-Softbox_60636526081.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.444.7a1922bfUVwM1i

  2. Logan 3 months ago

    Doesn’t a white interior basically defeat the purpose of a parabolic modifier? White interior fabric scatters light, which should make it very difficult to create an even, collimated beam of light.

    • MTL 3 months ago

      Yes indeed. That said the smaller ones (90, 110, 130) aren’t shaped like a paraboloid anyway. Whether this matters or not depends on your preferences (not everyone needs a parabolic modifier) and on intricate details (interraction between the silver material, the shape, the flash tube, etc.). Difficult to say without a hands-on how the smaller ones will behave because of the latter.

  3. kennie 3 months ago

    @Logan: You are 101% right 🙂
    The white version of this modifier is not more useful than an white umbrella, it just looks more fancy.

    The silver version has a pebbled interior material which is also like silver umbrellas since the 80s. This pebbled material is spreading the light more and helps to mask mistakes. The so called “bicycle wheel pattern” from cheap “parabolic” umbrellas is a result of a) not enough rods (12, 16) and b) not enough tension on each panel.
    A Broncolor technician once told me, that the perfect amount of rods would be 32 but the manufacturing costs would be more than double of their current 24 rod-version and then really almost nobody would buy those modifiers. So 24 is the best price/performance ratio. To make use of the defocused-feature you also need the shiny silver material and high tension. Like Paul has wrote, the shiny 177, 222 and 330 has a crank-tension system which the 88 and 133 is lacking (they are build for quick setup-time aka “fast-on location work”). To compensate this missing adjustable tension-feature they have changed to stretchy soft silver material which will cover the sagging of the material. 🙂

    Now the 1 million dollar question is this:
    If I´m a copycat of the Bron system and I can´t get the shiny material right and not the crank based tension system …what have I build then right there?

    The answer is a very deep pebbled silver umbrella which kind of can control the light spread. Meh. 🙂

    • Paul 3 months ago

      À chacun son goût my friend.

      For anyone interested in looking into parabolic modifiers, look here:
      https://www.making-photo-gear.com/calculating-parabolic-reflector/

    • MTL 3 months ago

      “If I´m a copycat of the Bron system and I can´t get the shiny material right and not the crank based tension system …what have I build then right there?

      The answer is a very deep pebbled silver umbrella which kind of can control the light spread. Meh.”

      The larger ones (140, 160, 180) are just as paraboloid-like as Broncolor’s paras, and the pebbled silver finish will alleviate the bicycle wheel illumination pattern, which the larger Bron paras do exhibit.

      https://ibb.co/hVFPic

      Tension between the ribs doesn’t seem much different from what I’ve seen from Broncolor’s larger paras.

      Besides the smaller Bron paras don’t have a stretchy material, quite the contrary. In fact it’s precisely because they can’t be adjusted for their operational lifetime that their fabric is as dimensionally stable as Broncolor could find one.

      And although that probably shouldn’t happen to any significant degree over Broncolor’s larger paras lifetime, the implementation of a cranking system to maintain tension over time precisely means that they won’t maintain an ideal paraboloid shape over time.

      Remains to be seen how SMDV’s silver material behaves. Ideally it should be just scattering enough that it compensates the number of fabric segments and the tension between the ribs, but not more. That’s how Paul Buff’s older soft silver fabric and Broncolor’s smaller paras behave. And there is no knowledge of how it will maintain its shape over time.

      • kennie 3 months ago

        “The larger ones (140, 160, 180) are just as paraboloid-like as Broncolor’s paras, and the pebbled silver finish will alleviate the bicycle wheel illumination pattern, which the larger Bron paras do exhibit.”
        The pebbled silver finish will alleviate ..that is right. The problem is this …you diffuse the lightshaper that is build to direct the light as much as possible. See the crux here?

        “Tension between the ribs doesn’t seem much different from what I’ve seen from Broncolor’s larger paras.”
        You simple can´t recreate the same tension with a rib that you span by hand compared to a crank-ratchet-based system. No more need to argument right here. Ever tried to lift a car by hand or do you use a car jack? 🙂

        “The implementation of a cranking system to maintain tension over time precisely means that they won’t maintain an ideal paraboloid shape over time.”

        Who said the BRON paras have a ideal paraboloid shape? Do you know the BRON (out of production) Satellite Evolution? That is a parabolic mirror with no “cut corners”. The problem is portability and in the defocused position you get a large ring-light with those textile-based paras which you can´t with the small Satellite. Do you need a large ring-light? That is a question of taste. You get 24 shadows with that large ring-light, that is for sure, because those are 24 small panels inside that large 220/330 that are sending light out there.

        “And there is no knowledge of how it will maintain its shape over time.”
        I can tell you that for sure. If the tension is high enough to get the best shape, the material will get lose so this light shapers are build to fail …over the next years. You need a new fabric then to replace the stretched one. But since the tension is just “good enough” there will be no such problem. I mean what are you expecting from a company that build a WHITE version? Bron did also build a white one for a year or two, but now you can´t find it on the web anymore. 😉

        If I need a large “para-style” modifier, I will choose the cheap Paul C Buff soft silver umbrellas. If I need hard focusable light I will use my Mini-Satellite. If I need a large ring-light …I would use black flocked paper on the inner diffusion baffle of my 2 meter softbox. Use what you like but don´t believe in those “all in one”-modifiers. “He is a jack of all trades, but master of none.” They can do one thing for sure …take a lot of space. 😉

        • MTL 3 months ago

          “The pebbled silver finish will alleviate ..that is right. The problem is this …you diffuse the lightshaper that is build to direct the light as much as possible. See the crux here?”

          Neither you nor I have tried this new lineup so we don’t know exactly by how much it scatters light. This isn’t a black and white thing. More like 50 shades of reflectiveness / scatteringness. It could be like Broncolor’s smaller paras. Or Like Elinchrom’s Rotalux. Two totally different materials.

          Even with some degree of scattering, the more or less parabolic quality of a modifier may shine through. Here’s a PLM soft silver vs. and extreme-like silver umbrella :

          https://ibb.co/nR523c

          The soft silver scatters light a bit more, but it’s still able to be set up to have a hotspot that roughly corresponds to the extreme’s illumination. So even with such a material its pseudo-parabolicness remains to some degree.

          ““Tension between the ribs doesn’t seem much different from what I’ve seen from Broncolor’s larger paras.”
          You simple can´t recreate the same tension with a rib that you span by hand compared to a crank-ratchet-based system.”

          The only thing you need is to get the proper arc shape, and the fabric taut flat between the ribs. It seems to be difficult to achieve, particularly for the smaller, and deeper fabric reflectors (for the arc shape), but so far from all the photos I’ve seen this is something that’s been achieved by SMDV with the larger ones.

          A crank isn’t necessarily necessary to reach these goals. Briese made their name with such modifiers before Broncolor and they don’t use a crank design.

          There is nothing in SMDV’s published videos that makes me scream “sagging sh%t” or “wrinkled f%rt booo !”.

          I wouldn’t be surprised to learn though that their design won’t extend well to sizes much larger than the 180.

          “If I need a large “para-style” modifier, I will choose the cheap Paul C Buff soft silver umbrellas”

          That’s my favourite cheap modifier. Maybe you know this already, but they’ve changed the fabric. Not for the better for me, but some may find it a slightly better compromise. Depends on what you want out of such a modifier :

          https://ibb.co/dqDpic

  4. MTL 3 months ago

    “The pebbled silver finish will alleviate ..that is right. The problem is this …you diffuse the lightshaper that is build to direct the light as much as possible. See the crux here?”

    Neither you nor I have tried this new lineup so we don’t know exactly by how much it scatters light. This isn’t a black and white thing. More like 50 shades of reflectiveness / scatteringness. It could be like Broncolor’s smaller paras. Or Like Elinchrom’s Rotalux. Two totally different materials.

    Even with some degree of scattering, the more or less parabolic quality of a modifier may shine through. Here’s a PLM soft silver vs. and extreme-like silver umbrella :

    https://ibb.co/nR523c

    The soft silver scatters light a bit more, but it’s still able to be set up to have a hotspot that roughly corresponds to the extreme’s illumination. So even with such a material its pseudo-parabolicness remains to some degree.

    ““Tension between the ribs doesn’t seem much different from what I’ve seen from Broncolor’s larger paras.”
    You simple can´t recreate the same tension with a rib that you span by hand compared to a crank-ratchet-based system.”

    The only thing you need is to get the proper arc shape, and the fabric taut flat between the ribs. It seems to be difficult to achieve, particularly for the smaller, and deeper fabric reflectors (for the arc shape), but so far from all the photos I’ve seen this is something that’s been achieved by SMDV with the larger ones.

    A crank isn’t necessarily necessary to reach these goals. Briese made their name with such modifiers before Broncolor and they don’t use a crank design.

    There is nothing in this video that makes me scream “sagging sh%t” or “wrinkled f%rt booo !” : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CsVU0SOTaA

    I wouldn’t be surprised to learn though that their design won’t extend well to sizes much larger than the 180.

    “If I need a large “para-style” modifier, I will choose the cheap Paul C Buff soft silver umbrellas”

    That’s my favourite cheap modifier. Maybe you know this already, but they’ve changed the fabric. Not for the better for me, but some may find it a slightly better compromise. Depends on what you want out of such a modifier :

    https://ibb.co/dqDpic

  5. kennie 3 months ago

    “Maybe you know this already, but they’ve changed the fabric. Not for the better for me, but some may find it a slightly better compromise.”
    NOW I don´t like you anymore. 🙁
    Why must Buff destroy their good products with “small modifications” for more profit?
    I want the old soft silver back and I want the small 51 version also.
    The best thing is of course …the same name ..no v2 or mark3 nothing just update the modifier and nobody will know only some geeks. I really hate that. 🙁
    Let´s see how good/bad the SMDV modifiers work, I´m now also again on the hunt (was very happy with my soft silver umbrellas). 🙂

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