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YongNuo YN-560 III – Review – Changing the Game
May 9th, 2013Hotshoe Flashes, REVIEWS, YongNuoFlash Havoc 203 Comments

The YN-560 III is the latest version of YongNuo’s flagship manual speeedlite, and its the first all manual speedlite with a radio trigger receiver built in for firing the flash reliably off camera. Compatible with both the existing and very popular RF-602 and RF-603 radio triggers.

UPDATE – YongNuo have now confirmed a remote manual power control function is already built into the current YN-560 III manual flash units ! This function will be enabled via a new transmitter unit with built in LCD interface, to be available by the end of the year (Edit – to come eventually).

This is one flash I really don’t need to talk up, as YongNuo have had are hard time keeping up with demand as it is. And for good reason.

Canon where basically the first to recently introduce radio based remote triggering into their own speedlite system, which has been extremely successful. But that is a relatively high priced full TTL system, where the YN-560 III is just a simple manual flash with a basic receiver (just to fire the flash) built in, and selling from around just $85 (now $70) each.

The built in receiver of the YN-560 III has big practical advantages, because you simply don’t have a lot of extra pieces of gear and extra batteries to constantly transport, organise, set up and manage. That’s all built into the flash. So all you need is the one small transmitter unit to fire as many flashes as you like. Of course it saves money too without all those extra receivers and batteries.

Another big advantage is that you don’t have anything mounted to the foot of the flash making it higher in umbrellas and generally less stable. Or alternatively extra cords (to go wrong) and receivers dangling around.

I say this flash is changing the game, not only due to the practical conveniences mentioned above, but also because its already having an impact on the way people consider their gear and radio trigger selection as well.

And furthermore, built in triggering is one thing, but many people are also waiting for remote manual power control in a simple manual flash like this. UPDATE – YongNuo have now confirmed a remote manual power control function is already built into the current YN-560 III manual flash units ! This function will be enabled via a new transmitter unit with built in LCD interface, to be available (eventually).

 

Power and Recycle Time

The YN-560 range of speedlites are full power flashes generally around just 0.2 to 0.3 of a stop lower power than the top end Canon Nikon alternatives. With pretty fast recycle times around 2.8 seconds at full power, and 1.2 seconds with an external battery back (for which they have a High Voltage battery port). Power adjustment range from 1/128th to Full, with 1/3rd or 1/2 stop fine adjustments. Also full zoom head from 24mm to 105mm.

 

Overheat Protection

One important thing I did note straight away, (at least over the MK I YN-560, I’m not sure about the MK II), is that the overheat protection is much better on this model. The 560 III will fire 20 full power shots consecutively, and then slow down to a 15 second recycle before you can take 3 more shots consecutively, and then a 15 second break again. Where the original 560 goes straight into a long shut down if you hit 20 shots continuously, which can be a real problem. For me this update alone is enough practical reason to seriously consider the YN-560 III over the original 560 model.

 

Interface

 

Compared to the YongNuo’s current YN-568EX Flagship TTL speedlite, the YN-560 III doesn’t have quite as big a screen, and it is rather more busy. But its still quite nice, and reasonably easy to see the power levels, which are really the main thing you would be concerned about in general use.
YN-560 III vs YN-568EX

Looking a little closer at the display there a couple of new additions over the previous MK II model. In the top right hand corner is the new RF trigger symbol showing the built in radio RX receiver mode is enabled. And in the lower left corner is the radio channel selection number and corresponding dip switch graphic (also indicating the RX mode is enabled).

As usual I put the this unit to the idiot test (I’m the idiot), to see how far I could get navigating the interface and operating the flash without looking at the instruction manual first. The added trigger modes do start to make this a little tricky, considering this is really just a simple manual flash. But I did manage to muddle my way through everything, except for the custom functions which are a bit hard to guess. Even there I found the RF-602 / 3 selection which is the only thing that’s vital really to be able to use the flash.

 

Manual Power Adjustments

Manual power adjustment is made in full stops via the left and right curved buttons, and 1/2 and / or 1/3rd stop fine adjustments are independent using the up and down curved buttons. These are hard plastic buttons now which work well, the days of mushy rubber buttons are fortunately over. They are still a lot more fiddly than an off camera should be these days (where you simply want to bump the power levels up and down as easily as possible), but they do the job fine.

 

GRP Mode

In the image above you can see between the “MODE” button and “TRIGGER Mode” button (the 2nd & 3rd buttons in the row of 4), there is GRP printed (meaning group). This group function currently has no use, and is one of the reasons a new transmitter unit (also enabling groups) is very likely to come at some stage.

 

Triggering Mode Button

Pressing the TRIGGER Mode button (the 3rd button in the row of 4) scrolls through the method of triggering the flash, M (or manual) is triggering through the flash foot or PC sync port, S1 is basic optic slave, S2 is basic optic slave with TTL pre-flash ignore, and the last is the built in RX radio receiver mode.

YN-560 III Triggering Mode

 

MODE Button

Once you are in the Radio Trigger Mode (where the the channel dip switch graphic is always displayed) you can then press the mode button to scroll through M – manual, Multi – strobing mode, and the mystery “- -” mode.

The mystery “- -” mode currently has no function -

So this is the mode we suspect may well be enabled down the track via a new transmitter unit, very possibly allowing remote manual power adjustment. Again this is only speculation at this point, but there are strong signs there.

UPDATE – YongNuo have now confirmed a remote manual power control function is already built into the current YN-560 III manual flash units ! This function will be enabled via a new transmitter unit with built in LCD interface, to be available (eventually).

 

Channel Dip Switches

The Channel dip switch graphic indicator is a clever idea, showing you clearly how to set the dip switch positions on the RF-602 or 603 transmitter unit to correspond with the channel number. As you adjust the channel up and down on the flash the dip switch positions change to correspond. Click on the animation below to see the full 16 channel position table.

 

RF-602 / 3 Selection

To select either RF-602 or RF-603 radio trigger compatibility, you will need to go into the custom functions and change the selection there. RF-603 is the default setting. The flash does remember your previous choice though, so you don’t have to keep setting this.

 

Range

 

I’m really quite surprised to say the range with the YN-560 III’s built in radio receiver, is at the least as good as the external receiver, and I’d have to say most of the time even better.

I set the YN-560 III up with an RF-602 receiver attached to the flash foot, and both the internal receiver and the RF-602 receiver easily reached 100 metres line of sight. But placing the transmitter behind my back (only about an inch away) sorts out the better performing triggers pretty quickly, and the built in receiver in the YN-560 III fairly consistently outperformed the external RF-602 receiver. Both were still getting at least 50 meters there, which is still very good range while obstructed.

So building the receiver into the flash body doesn’t appear to have had any negative effect on range at all that I can see at this stage. My other concern was that low battery power levels in the flash may cause lower reliability with the triggers, but I ran the flash until the batteries were empty and this didn’t cause any misfire issues. The built in receiver looks to be a very convenient advantage so far.

YN-560 III Range

 

Ports

 

The YN-560 III has the same High Voltage battery port, and PC sync port as the previous YN-560 models. The HV battery port is very welcome, as an inexpensive external pack can speed up recycle to just 1.2 seconds, and run for 400 to 500 shots. The Flagship YN-568EX TTL flash is unfortunately missing this important feature, so its really a big advantage to have this HV port in an inexpensive manual flash. This HV port uses the Canon compatible plug and cords.

The PC sync port is the standard screwlock PC sync. YongNuo have moved on to miniphone sockets in the YN-568EX, so this is a bit out of date, though with the inbuilt radio receiver it may not get used too often now anyway.

 

YN-560 III Ports

 

The battery compartment and door has been well sorted out since the first 560 model, its very fast and easy to operate having its own sliding track. Batteries are the standard 4 AA’s. NiMH or Eneeloops perform the best.

The flash foot is a single firing pin, and strong metal base with a nice large and simple locking ring and locking pin.

Another big advantage of the built in receiver is the lack of any extra receivers on the flash foot, which normally add height and leverage, creating a weak point and stress on the foot when mounting the flash. Mounting directly to the foot frees up the flash to be mounted in any position, on its side etc without any stress.

Phottix Multi Boom

The bracket shown above is the new Multi Boom 16″ now produced by Phottix.

 

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Radio Triggers

 

The YN-560 III is really changing the game here, if it wasn’t already tricky enough to choose a radio trigger system, the YN-560 III is making that decision even more interesting.

RF-602 / RF-603 Compatible Triggers

If you’re already using RF-602 or RF-603 radio triggers then you’re already set, just add the YN-560 III flashes to your existing set up and you’re good to go. Or simply use your existing RF-602 or 603 transmitter to fire the YN-560 III’s alone.

Using Other Radio Triggers

If you already own another set of manual radio triggers, there’s no need to panic either. Many of the good flash triggers have a pass through hotshoe on top of the transmitter, so if you already have Phottix Strato II, Commlite T320, Cactus V5 etc, you can simply add one of the directly compatible RF-602 / 3 transmitter units (listed below) on top of your existing transmitters pass through hotshoe. So you can still fire your existing flashes and receivers, as well as the new YN-560 III flashes all together.

Strato II and RF-602

If you don’t have a pass through hotshoe on your existing radio triggers (like the PocketWizard Plus III / II / X) you can use the Meyin RF-604 transmitter (discussed further below) on the camera hotshoe, and mount the PocketWizard etc, on top of the RF-604′s pass through hotshoe as shown here. Again firing all your existing flashes and receivers, as well as the new YN-560 III flashes all together.

 

Directly Compatible Transmitters

 

UPDATE (20-12-20213) – The RF-603 II transmitters are now available, and would be a much better alternative to the YongNuo RF-602 and RF-603 mentioned below for most cameras. And in most cases a more suitable option than the Meyin RF-604 mentioned as well.

The transmitter information below was written before the release of the RF-603 II, I will leave it here for the moment as a general reference, but keep in mind the RF-603 II will generally be the most suitable transmitter option for now. When the dedicated YN-560 transmitter becomes available I will update this section.

 

Canon /  Nikon Cameras –

If you’re simply after a transmitter unit to fire the YN-560 III flashes, its just a matter of choosing one of the 3 currently compatible transmitter options below. Any of these 3 transmitters will fire the flash reliably, and the differences between them are detailed below.

Other Cameras - 

Although the YongNuo RF-602 and RF-603 have dedicated Canon and Nikon versions, this is mainly for the flash wake up feature, and they will often still work on other non Canon / Nikon cameras. The RF-603 have more compatibility issues though, so RF-602 are a better option if you do need to use non Canon / Nikon cameras as well. For Sony, and Olympus / Panasonic, the Meyin RF-604 have dedicated versions available for those cameras.

RF-602 Vs RF-603

The RF-602 were the first really good inexpensive flash triggers, but the 602 and the later 603 version are fairly dated now, and they always had some issues and limitations. YongNuo have a much better engineer in charge of radio trigger development now though, and he has already said there will be a new RF-602 / 3 compatible trigger coming at some stage, likely within the year.

So for now the choice is between the YongNuo RF-602, RF-603, and Meyin RF-604. Many people are happy with the current RF-603, but even though they have some advantages over the RF-602 due to being transceivers, I would personally still choose the original RF-602. Mainly because the 603 have lower sync speeds, meaning you may have to drop your shutter speed back at least one third of a stop below X-sync to retain a clean frame without shutter (or black band) showing in the image. So on a Canon 5D for example, as low as 1/125th shutter speed may be needed to attain a full clean frame. The other main issues with the RF-603 are that you can’t test fire the flash (for light meter use etc) unless they are attached to the camera hotshoe, and they have more compatibility problems with non Canon / Nikon cameras. Neither RF-602 or 603 have locking rings on the foot, but the 602 tend to stay in place better as they are smaller and lighter then the 603.

Rikon Meyin RF-604

The third option are the new Rikon Meyin RF-604, which are generally better triggers than either of the YongNuo RF-602 or 603, but their functions are limited when used as an RF-602 compatible trigger to fire the YN-560 III. They are limited to transmitter use only (so any extra receivers would need to be YongNuo RF-602 anyway), and they only operate on one channel (channel 16). Also their handy group function is disabled. They have faster sync speeds than the RF-602 and 603 on their own, but when used with the YN-560 III the sync speed is exactly the same as the RF-602. Overall the Meyin RF-604 are likely the best transmitter option currently compatible with the YN-560 III, though the RF-602 mostly do the job as well still. The Meyin RF-604 are sold as separate units, so you can buy just the one transmitter unit. They also have Canon, Nikon, as well as Sony, and Panasonic / Olympus compatible versions available. If you want to fire another transmitter unit like Pocketwizards, the pass through hotshoe on the Meyin RF-640 can be used to allow that.

 YongNuo RF-602 PERMALINK

YonNuo RF-602

Around – $35 a set (Tx & Rx)

Separate transmitter and receiver units – sold as a set.  

Available in Canon & Nikon versions. 

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RF-602 are separate transmitter and receiver units, though sold as a set, so you may have to purchase a set just to get the transmitter. Some sellers are now offering a separate transmitter unit with the YN-560 III flash though.

Canon and Nikon dedicated transmitter versions are available, this is mainly for the flash wake up feature though. They should still work on most other cameras just to fire the flash, but the extra TTL pins on the foot can clash with some cameras. The RF-602 are a better bet for using on non Canon / Nikon cameras than the RF-603.

NOTE – the RF-602 transmitter was replaced with a unit called the RF-600Tx. This is the same as the RF-602 transmitter just without the PC sync port on the front. So to connect to a camera via its PC sync port, you now need to use a hotshoe connected to the RF-600TX transmitter foot. When sold as a set these are still called RF-602, even though an RF-600TX transmitter is supplied.

 

VS the RF-603

RF-602 Strong Points

  • Faster sync speed than very slow RF-603
  • More compatibility than RF-603
  • Test fires while off the camera hotshoe (for light meter use etc)
  • No locking ring, but lighter so stay in place better than RF-603
RF- 603 Strong Points
  • Transceivers mean back up transmitters
  • Transmitters (transceivers) can be purchases separately
  • Standard non proprietary 2.5mm ports / cords
  • Flash and Shutter Release possible with just two units

 

RF-602 Transmitter Issues 

The main issues with the RF-602 transmitter are really not that much of a problem -

  • Battery – The CR2 lithium battery is not as practical or inexpensive as AA or AAA, but they last for a long time (6 months or more). So that’s not idea,l but not really a practical problem either.
  • No On/Off switch – again not ideal, but as above the batteries last for along time anyway, so its no issue unless the test button was accidentally pressed for long periods.
  • No locking ring on the TX – Again not ideal, but not generally a problem anyway as it generally holds in place fairly well.
  • Low Sync Speed – Again this is not ideal, but most of the time you can still achieve a clean frame at the camera X-sync speed.

 

 

RF- 602 Overview – As Transmitter and Receivers

The 2.4 GHz RF-620 were the first really good reliable inexpensive radio trigger option, a leap ahead of the previous 433MHz “ebay triggers”. Very reliable, compact size, 100m+ range, and good hotshoes. But low 12 volt trigger voltage is not suitable for some older speedlights with a high trigger voltage, and sync speed may not be as fast as your cameras x-sync.

Though they are ageing a little now, and they did always have their shortcomings -

Negatives

  • Low sync speed – 1/3rd stop behind x-sync . With electronic shutters aprox 1/800th
  • Low 12 volt trigger voltage
  • No Locking ring on the transmitter
  • CR2 battery in transmitter instead of standard AA or AAA.
  • No On/Off switch on the transmitter
  • On/Off switch on the receiver not accessible with a flash in place
  • Non Standard cord plug/socket on receivers

Strong Points

  • Price
  • 2.4GHz
  • Very reliable, 100m + range
  • Compact design
  • Good build quality
  • Hotshoe for cordless speedlight mounting
  • Wake up feature for speedlights
  • Shutter release function

website – YongNuo

 YongNuo RF-603 PERMALINK

YongNuo RF-603

Around - $20 each (Transceivers)

Transceivers (can be transmitter or receiver) – available separately.

Available in Canon & Nikon versions.

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The RF-603 is the later version of the RF-602 above. They are now transceivers, meaning the transmitter and receiver units are all exactly the same and can work as either transmitter or receivers.

The problem is YongNuo took a few steps forward, as well as backward, with the RF-603. And they didn’t fix the most obvious issues, like a lack of locking ring on the transmitter

Other issues are an even lower sync speed than the RF-602, a test fire button that will only work when the unit is attached to a camera making light meter use difficult, and more compatibility issues with non Canon / Nikon cameras.

The RF-603 now have a Pass Though Hotshoe on the transmitter for mounting a flash on camera at the same time as the transmitter. This is only manual though, not TTL, and you can’t really mount a flash or it will fall off due to the lack of locking ring on the trigger! The triggers themselves will fall off the camera hotshoe a lot easier than the RF-602 due to the extra size and weight of the unit with larger batteries etc.

 

VS the RF-602

RF-602 Strong Points

  • Faster sync speed than very slow RF-603
  • More compatibility than RF-603
  • Test fires while off the camera hotshoe (for light meter use etc)
  • No locking ring, but lighter so stay in place better than RF-603
RF- 603 Strong Points
  • Transceivers mean back up transmitters
  • Transmitters (transceivers) can be purchases separately
  • Standard non proprietary 2.5mm ports / cords
  • Flash and Shutter Release possible with just two units

 

 

RF- 603 Overview – As Transmitter and Receivers

Negatives

  • Lower sync speed than RF-602 – 1/3rd stop behind x-sync . Electronic shutters aprox 1/600th
  • Still Low 12volt trigger voltage
  • Still No Locking ring on the transmitter (a serious issue now if you mount a flash on camera)
  • Still inaccessible On/Off switch on the receiver
  • Test fire button only works with trigger mounted on camera hotshoe
  • Compatibility issues with non Canon / Nikon cameras
  • No threaded mounting hole for receiver mounting
  • Pass though hotshoe is useless for flash mounting without a locking ring, and manual only no TTL

Improvements

  • All Standard AAA batteries used
  • Standard 2.5mm sub-mini plug for shutter release
  • Standard PC sync socket and cord instead of proprietary one used on the RF-602 (arguable improvement)
  • Transceivers mean you have back up transmitter units, instead of one dedicated transmitter
  • Transceivers mean you can use one transmitter as a remote shutter release as well as triggering remote flashes at the same time. With non-transceivers like the RF-602 you will need a second transmitter.

 

So in some ways its difficult to choose a clear winner between the RF-602 and 603. If you need shutter and flash release at the same time the 603 may be the cleaner option. If maximum sync speed is an issue the RF-602 are at least a bit faster.

The low sync speed is not ideal, but then it’s not always a huge difference either, 1/200th on a 1/250th sync speed camera. The reason people look for the highest sync speed possible is to either reduce ambient light, basically “to darken the sky”, or to help freeze motion. When working inside for example, or in a studio, this is not really an issue. And 1/3rd of a stop is not that much gain anyway. But for full frame camera like the Canon 5D for example you’re falling to 1/160th or possibly 1/125th, so every bit does start to count there. If maximum sync speed is a priority there are better options than the current YongNuo RF-602/3 triggers.

RF-603 have dedicated Canon and Nikon versions, this is mainly for the flash wake up feature. So they will sometimes still work on other non Canon / Nikon cameras. The RF-603 have more compatibility issues though, so RF-602 are a better option if you need to use non Canon / Nikon cameras as well.

Website - YongNuo

 Rikon Meyin RF-604 PERMALINK

Rikon Meyin RF-604

Around - $20 each (Transceivers)

Transceivers (can be transmitter or receiver) – available separately.

Available in Canon, Nikon, Sony, & Olympus / Panasonic versions.

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The new Rikon Meyin RF-604 are the main non-YongNuo brand triggers that are directly compatible with the YongNuo RF-602 (and therefore the YN-560 III as well), and offer any advantage over the original YongNuo RF-602 or RF-603 (there are others like the Wansen RF-602, but they generally have more issues than the original YongNuo version).

The Meyin RF-604 only have a limited RF-602 compatible mode though, and they loose a number of their features in this mode. When used as an RF-602 compatible trigger they are limited to transmitter use only (so any extra receivers would need to be YongNuo RF-602 anyway), and they only  operate on one Channel (Channel 16). Their handy grouping feature is also disabled.

They have faster sync speeds than the RF-602 and 603 on their own, but when used with the YN-560 III the sync speed is exactly the same as the RF-602. So there is no advantage in sync speed when used with the YN-560 III.

 

So the Meyin RF-604 can only be used as a transmitter with the YN-560 III. The main advantages over the FR-602 and RF-603 transmitters are -

Advantages over the RF-602 Tx-

  • Locking Ring and Pin (small locking ring though)
  • Standard AA batteries
  • On / Off switch
  • Standard 3.5mm sync socket
  • Pass through TTL hotshoe
  • Transceivers sold separately
  • Available in Sony and Olympus / Panasonic versions (as well as Canon / Nikon)

Advantages over the RF-603 Tx-

  • Faster Sync Speed
  • Locking Ring and Pin (small locking ring though)
  • Standard 3.5mm sync socket (vs 2.5mm)
  • Pass through hotshoe is TTL (vs manual) and usable because there is a locking ring & pin
  • Test fire button works with trigger off the camera hotshoe (for light meter use etc)
  • Available in Sony and Olympus / Panasonic versions (as well as Canon / Nikon)

Disadvantages over RF-602 & RF-603 Tx-

  • The main disadvantage is the single channel option in RF-602 compatible mode
  • Takes longer to mount and unmount due to the (more secure) locking ring
  • Slightly bigger and heavier than the RF-602 Tx due to AA batteries

Overall the Meyin RF-604 is likely the best current directly compatible transmitter for the YN-560 III. Though the RF-602 generally do the job ok as well.

 

Used on their own without the YN-560 III (or placing an extra RF-604 receiver on the YN-560 III foot) the Meyin RF-604 are fairly nice triggers, having slightly faster sync speeds than the RF-602, a nice group function for turning lights on and off quickly from the camera, and and automatic channel selection which has an infinite number of channels (shame it only has one in the RF-602 compatible mode). Compared with other similar trigger options, the main disadvantages to the Meyin RF-604 are the small locking rings, and 60 volt safe trigger voltage (most better triggers are now 300 volt limit).

Website – Rikon


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YN-622C / YN-622N

By far the biggest question I already get, is what does all this mean for the popular YongNuo YN-622 TTL triggers?. Are they compatible with the YN-560 III?, if not why not?. Should I buy the YN-622, or YN-560 III and RF-602. Click Expand below to see more about this.

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The YN-622 and YN-560 III built in receiver are not directly compatible unfortunatley, though as explained below you can still combine them together ok at this stage.

Why YongNuo did not make them directly compatible at this stage I can only speculate. The RF-602 and RF-603 triggers are not normally compatible to start with, so it was surprising when the YongNuo engineer announced they would make new, and both RF-602 and RF-603 compatible triggers in one unit. Which is what they have also done with the current YN-560 III built in receiver.

So there is probably no technical reason why YongNuo couldn’t have added a YN-622 compatible mode to the YN-560 III’s built in receiver as well. My guess is that the YN-560 III will have remote manual power levels enabled later with a new and fairly simple transmitter unit, and therefore YongNuo are keeping the Manual, and TTL and HSS capable, systems separate. Again its only my speculation at this point, but its fairly clear the way the industry is moving we will eventually see flashes with the YN-622 receivers built in as well at some point.

So which should I get?  

Well even if the YN-560 III did have remote manual power levels now, its still not a complete substitute for the YN-622, which has High Speed Sync, as well as the option of TTL and remote manual power control. Most people only have a few TTL and HSS enabled flashes at the most, simply due to the extra price, and the fact that’s often all that is needed when using TTL or HSS (on or off camera). Extra cheaper manual flashes do the job when using more flashes off camera. So ultimately the answer for many people is probably combining the systems, which you can currently do fairly easily anyway -

Combining the YN-622 and YN-560 III / RF-602 etc. 

To fire both the TTL enabled flashes mounted on YN-622 receivers, and YN 560 III manual flashes, all you currently need to do is place an RF-602 (or RF-602 or 603 compatible) transmitter on top of the YN-622 transmitter’s pass through hotshoe, as shown below.

There is currently no remote control of the YN-560 III flash this way, its simply being fired in sync with the YN-622 mounted flashes (which do have remote manual control or TTL). Hopefully if a new RF-602 transmitter alternative with remote manual control of the YN-560 III is introduced it will still work in the same way. There would be 2 interfaces, but at least you would have basic remote manual control of all flashes.

Placing an RF-602 (or other compatible manual transmitter) on top of the YN-622C pass through causes a small delay in the YN-560 III firing, which may loose 1/3rd of a stop of sync speed (or possible camera shutter speed). So you may have to shoot slightly below the cameras X-sync speed to retain a full frame without shutter (or black band) in the image. This is also why I much prefer the RF-602 or Meyin RF-604 transmitter over the RF-603, which is very slow and would cause further drop in maximum sync speed here.

 

YN-622C and YN-560 III

 

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TTL Flash On Camera

 

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Many wedding and event photographers like to use a TTL flash on camera, and then fire some off camera manual flashes as well. Either to help light up a room, or to light, or rim light the subjects etc.

In this case the flash is taking up the camera hotshoe, so the RF-602 / 3 needs to be connected to the cameras PC sync port via a sync cord. Unfortunately the current RF-602 transmitter (called the RF-600TX) does not have a sync port to plug into directly. So a hotshoe to sync cord is needed to attach to the RF-600Tx foot. That sync cord is then plugged into the cameras PC sync port. The Meyin RF-604 requires a hotshoe as well. The original RF-602 Tx has a PC sync port already. I’m not sure if the RF-603 Tx works connected to the cameras sync port or not.

Bellow is just an example where I have used a straight bracket under the camera, allowing the RF-602 transmitter to mount down to the side near the cameras sync port. Ideally I would velcro the RF-602 transmitter to the side of the on-camera speedlite.

Pass Through Hotshoe Method

If your camera does not have a PC sync port, another option is to use the Meyin RF-604 transmitter (as discussed above) which has a TTL pass through hotshoe the flash can be mounted straight on top of. Pass through hotshoes can cause problems after a while when using a heavy flash on top though, and the Myein RF-604 is not the most solid unit to start with. So connecting the transmitter to the cameras PC sync port if possible is the better long term option. The RF-603 has a manual (not TTL) pass through hotshoe as well, but no locking ring or pin on its foot, so that can not be used safely anyway.

If combining YN-622 TTL triggers and receivers as well, you could use the PC sync cord method to connect the RF-602 / 3 TX to the camera , as well as mount the YN-622 on the camera hotshoe, with flash mounted on top of that.

 

Compatibility -

 

Being a single firing pin flash the YN-560 III is compatible with most cameras when mounted directly on the cameras hotshoe .

Off camera, and using the YN-560 III’s built in radio receiver, compatibility will depend on the transmitter unit used (as detailed under radio triggers above). Most cameras can be used with the RF-602 transmitter unit though at least.

Virtually any camera with a sync connection could be used if using some other form of radio triggers to fire the flash off camera.

 

Specs -

 

  • Circuit design - Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistor (IGBT)
  • Guide No. - 58 (ISO 100, 105mm)
  • Flash mode – M, Multi
  • Trigger Mode – On-camera, S1, S2 pre-flash-cancelled, RX 2.4GHz radio receiver
  • Wireless triggering distance – 100m(2.4G wireless), Optic 20~25m indoor, 10~15m outdoor
  • Channels - 16
  • Zoom range - auto, 24, 28, 35, 50, 70, 80, 105mm
  • Vertical rotation angle –  -7~90 degrees
  • Horizontal rotation angle –  0~270 degrees
  • Power supply - 4×AAsize batteries (Alkaline or Ni-MH are usable)
  • Lighting times - 100~1500 times (AA alkaline cell used)
  • Recycle time - approx 3s (AA alkaline cell used)
  • Color temperature - 5600k
  • Flash time - 1/200s~1/20000s
  • Flash control – 8 levels of output control (1/128~1/1), 29 levels of fine tuning
  • External interface - hot shoe, PC port port, HV battery port
  • Additional features – electronic flash head zooming, manual zoom, sound prompt, advanced setting, automatically saving setting, PC port, power saving mode and over heat protection.
  • Dimensions – 60×73×190mm (Extended state)
  • Net weight - 350g
  • Accessories Flash light (1), protecting bag (1), mini stand (1) and manual (1)

 

Included -

 

  • YN-560 III Flash Unit
  • Padded Case
  • Mini Base Stand
  • Instruction Manual

 

Summary

 

There’s no question the YN-560 III is a great manual flash which offers a lot of convenience and simplicity in an inexpensive package. And its already having an impact on the way many people consider their gear selection, and that’s not even with any remote power control on offer as yet. If YongNuo do introduce remote power control through a new transmitter this may become the most popular flash available.

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Price and Availability

 

The YN-560 III are currently priced from around a very low $75.

Amazon Fulfilled sellers are highly recommended as a method of purchasing these flashes if possible, as you get the flash quickly to start with, and if there are any issues Amazon have an excellent fast and hassle free 30 day return policy.

Amazon - YN-560 III, RF-603 II  UK - YN-560 III, RF-603 II

Ebay - YN-560 III, RF-603 II

YongNuo Ebay Store - YN-560 III, RF-603 II

Eachshot -6% - YN-560 III, RF-603 II

 

YN-560 II – (cheaper but without built in receiver) - AmazonUK, Ebay

RF-602 - Canon - Nikon - UK
RF-603 - Canon - Nikon - UK
RF-604 - Canon - Nikon - UK

'203 Responses to “YongNuo YN-560 III – Review – Changing the Game”'
  1. James says:

    Hello,

    I would like to buy RF-603 II radio triggers but I don´t know which type to choose (if Nikon or Canon version)? I have pentax k20d. Can you help me?

    Thank you.

    • James says:

      sorry for my mistake, I wanted to buy RF-602 radio trigger. Thank you.

      • Flash Havoc says:

        Hi James,

        You’re much better off with the RF-603 II as you first mentioned, as they are designed for non Canon/Nikon cameras as well (and they are much better deigned triggers in general now).

        It won’t matter whether you use the Canon or Nikon version with the Pentax, so I would just consider whether you may be more likely to use a Canon or Nikon camera at some stage (maybe friends or family etc use one or the other). Thanks.

        • hype says:

          will the RF-603 trigger combine with the ft-16 able to trigger both the a v850 godox and a regular yongnuo 460

          • Flash Havoc says:

            Hi hype,

            I assume you mean stacking the FT-16 Transmitter on top of the RF-603 transmitter on the camera hotshoe?

            If so that should work, but RF-603 have very slow latency and sync speeds, which will be reduced even further to the FT-16 Tx mounted on top.

            So you would be best to use at least one RF-603 II unit as the transmitter, as they are much faster now. Thanks.

  2. Simon says:

    Great review. I have a Canon eos400d and a Sony Nex5r. I have this flash but would like a compatible remote trigger. Can I get away with buying the Canon specific RF603 II, or will I need 2 different ones?

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Simon,

      The RF-603 II is what you need, and its not going to matter if its the Canon or Nikon version with the Sony camera.

      So no you shouldn’t need 2 different transmitters, but I’m not familiar with the Nex5r hotshoe. As long as that fits a regular flash foot it should be ok. Otherwise you may need an adapter with a regular hotshoe?

      Thanks.

  3. M Ng says:

    Any ideas when the transmitter will be release?

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi M Ng,

      Sorry no, I doubt we will hear anything until they are ready to start shipping. Otherwise, as we have seen previosulsy, YongNuo’s estimates are not very reliable otherwise.

  4. Slopush says:

    Thanks for the great article. Do you know if I my CyberSync (Paul C Buff) senders will trigger this strobe using the built-in slave?

  5. szs says:

    Hey! Great review! I have the PT-16 radio flash trigger, and it works fine with my two flashes, but i want to buy a third one. Do you think it would work with this one? I have a transmitter, but i don`t know if it is compatible with flash.

    Thanks.

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi szs,

      Thanks for that, you would need to attach a PT-16 receiver to the YN-560 III as well. If you do that then they should work. The PT-16 won’t fire the YN-560 III inbuilt receiver though.

      It may be worth looking at trading your PT-16 in for some RF-603 II instead. That way the YN-560 III, and any more 560 III you may get, will not require any receivers. Thanks.

  6. Nathanael says:

    You mention above that the YN-560 III has the ability to auto zoom but I cannot see how to do that on my unit, either by playing around with it or looking at the user manual. Can you help? This feature would be very useful indeed.

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Nathanael,

      If you are meaning auto zoom, as in to follow the zoom length of a zoom lense, then that is not possible.

      Not by mounting the flash on a camera hotshoe anyway, as the flash is only a single firing pin flash.

      The YN-560 III just has power zoom, as in a motor winds the zoom in and out as you change the zoom setting directly on the back of the flash. Thanks.

  7. szs says:

    Thanks for the reply Flash Havoc! If it works with the PT-16, than i am going to stick with that. Maybe when i`m going to have a bigger budget than i`m going to invest in some RF-603 II-s.

  8. Eddy says:

    Hi, just wonder if you could tell what I did wrong on my canon 400D and my setting was M mode 1/200 f5.6
    I found that some of my shots are very dark .Thanks

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Eddy,

      Thanks, you would need to explain what you are doing though as that’s really not much to go on.

      Are you using the flash on the camera, or off camera?, and if so how are you triggering it? Is the flash still firing at all when you have the dark shots? Thanks.

  9. Len Salem says:

    Hi

    Sorry if this is simple-minded question but I’m not able to find an answer via Google!

    Can I use the YN-560111 as an off-camera flash with a radio trigger ( which?) on a Sony Nex 6 camera?

    When I research this topic elsewhere the writers seldom make it clear that by wireless they mean operated by the on-camera built in flash whereas I am looking for true radio frequency triggering.

    Hope you can help!

    Thanks

    Len

  10. Sridhar says:

    Hi ,

    I would like to buy three flash units of Yongnuo 560 III , by this how many RF 603II Transmitters should I buy , Is it three ?? Also by using this RF 603II transmitter can I remotely control the flash power if not how can I achieve this.
    Also one basic question, I live in India and the price of the YN560 III flash is very high over here , so I would like to order it in US or CANADA and my cousins would help me to get it , so here do you see any issues here if I use the US product as the powersupply here it is 230V , 50HZ where as in US it is 110V , 60HZ , or do you think there will be no issues. My body is Nikon D7100.

    Thank you very much for your support.

    Best regards,
    Sridhar.

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Sridhar,

      You would only need one RF-603 II unit as a transmitter, as the YN-560 III has RF-603 radio receivers built in.

      It would be a good idea to buy a pair of RF-603 II anyway so that you have a back up transmitter if one has an issue.

      You can’t change manual power levels of the YN-560 III until YongNuo releases a transmitter which will enable this. We don’t know when they will be though.

      If you want remote power control now, it may be better to look at the Godox V850. They cost a bit more though.

      Power supply shouldn’t be a issue with the YongNuo flash, as they use AA batteries. Even the charger for the Godox will work on 230v as well though.

      For the YN-560 III flash its best to use eneloop rechargeable batteries, and a suitable charger. Thanks

      • Sridhar says:

        Thank you very much for your detailed explanation.
        If you don’t mind could you please clarify my few more queries -

        1) I have checked that YN565 EX has TTL , so I would like to go with this one now should I also require to buy RF 603 for radio triggering , I have seen YN565EX can be triggered from my Nikon D7100 itself than is it really necessary to buy RF603 , if so what is the advantage. Also as in the case of YN560 III it has inbuilt receiver what about YN 565EX ??
        If I compare YN565 EX to YN560III which is better to buy.

        2) Also as you suggested above I would like to buy from EACHSHOT.com as they are providing free shipping to INDIA is it a trust worthy site as the AMAZON.

        3)Which radio trigger to go for RF603 II or RF622N for 565EX flash or 560III flash.

        Thank you very much for your support and time.

        • Flash Havoc says:

          Hi Sridhar,

          The CLS / AWL commander built into your D7100 triggers the slave flashes through light pulses sent from the cameras pop up flash.

          This optic wireless system is best indoors. Outside in bright light you need direct line of sight from the camera to the flashes optic sensor.

          So optic wireless can be very helpful, but its much more limited than a radio trigger. Its much cheaper though if you want TTL off-camera.
          .

          RF-603 II radio triggers only fire the flash, no remote manual control or TTL off-camera.

          If you want remote manual control or TTL off-camera with the YN-565EX you would need the YN-622N TTL radio triggers. And the new YN-622N-TX is a good idea as well.

          The YN-565EX does not have any radio receiver built in.
          .

          Yes Eachshot are a reliable company. But the free shipping to India may not always be the safest option. Most of the time its likely ok, but when there are issues its usually due to the standard postage.
          .

          So for the YN-560 III manual flash, RF-603 II are the best option, as the flash can not do TTL anyway. (You only need one transmitter, as the flash has RF-603 receiver built in).

          For the YN-565EX the RF-603 II will only fire them. And the YN-622N will allow TTL and remote manual power control.
          .

          Also, now that you are considering TTL. Just be aware that the YN-565EX does not have High Speed Sync (HSS). You would need the YN-568EX for HSS. But the YN-568EX does not have an external battery port.

          Thanks.

          • Sridhar says:

            Hi ,

            Thank you very much for your repsonse and detailed information, I have one final query -

            1) which option do you suggest below to buy -

            Option 1:

            YN 560 III – 2 quantity
            RF 603 II – 2 quantity

            or

            Option 2 :

            YN 565 EX – 1 quantity.
            YN 560 III – 1 quantity

            and regarding triggers – If I buy YN -622N two quantity can I use this trigger for both YN565EX (trigger and manual flash control) and YN 560 III(Flash trigger only) or do I need to buy RF 603 II for sure for the YN 560 III .

            which is the best option out of this two.

            2) Apart from flash I would also like to buy some good budjet fitted strobe – which monolight strobe do you suggest for this for a price of 100-120 $.

            3) Finally regarding shipment do you think AIRMAIL is good (4 $) or do you think I should go for FEDEX or some thing else and also do they ship directly to my home address or do I need to collect from post office or so..

            Thank you very much again for your time and support.

          • Flash Havoc says:

            Hi Sridhar,

            You can use a YN-622N as a receiver to simply fire the YN-560 III.

            For your option 2, you would need three YN-622N.

            But you would be better off with two YN-622N and a YN-622TX as transmitter.

            Your really much better of with two YN-565EX though if going with option 2. So you have full remote manual control and TTL with both flashes.
            .

            It would be best to ask EachShot which shipping they recommend for India.
            .

            Its very hard to get any good studio light for $120.

            Maybe a Godox 200WS light.

            The Godox GS300 are pretty decent for $160.

            Thanks.

          • Sridhar says:

            Hi ,

            You are awesome for your quick replies as you suggested I will go with two 565 EX flashes.

  11. Diane says:

    Thanks for the informative site.

    I have a Nikon 600 camera and SB-910 flash. I am looking to add more flashes to my kit and saw this option. would the mix work on manual? If so, what would I require?

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Diane,

      Thanks for that. If you only want to fire the flashes in manual, with no remote power control, all you would need is a pair of RF-603 II for Nikon. One RF-603 II would be used as the transmitter on the camera, and the other attached to the foot of your SB-910. The YN-560 III then have their own RF-603 radio receiver unit built in.

      A coming YN-560-TX should allow remote manual power control with the YN-560 III flash, though we don’t know when that will be available. If your really after remote control now, its worth looking at the Godox V850 as well. Thanks.

      • Darren says:

        I am curious to know if anyone has had any success slaving the SB-600 to the YN-560 III? I would love to save a few bucks at this point in time and not get anymore RF-603 II’s.

        Thanks

        • Flash Havoc says:

          Hi Darren,

          I don’t have an SB-600, but a quick Google search tells me that it doesn’t have a simple optic slave built in.

          And whats more it has very low sync voltage that has issues with external optic slaves sometimes.

          So your likely going to save yourself a lot of hassles, and get a much more reliable signal, just going with another RF-603 II.

  12. Deborah says:

    Hi there,

    Good review, but….. I am a complete novice – very new to flash and rubbish at understanding the techy stuff! I have a Canon 5D Mark II and a Fuji XE-1 and would like to buy my first flash unit. I have heard (and now read!) great things about the new YN 560 III

    I obviously would like a flash unit that is compatible with both my cameras, plus a (compatible) trigger / receiver set which will enable me to work in a studio set with a 2 or 3 light set up.

    Please can you help me by telling me what I need to buy and perhaps direct me on what is needed where! You may also be able to direct me to some good instruction on the general subject of use of flash on &off camera?

    Sorry these are such basis questions, but if I don’t ask now, it will never happen!!
    Many thanks

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Deborah,

      There is not really much to it with the YN-560 III. All you need is one RF-603 II to place on your camera hotshoe. The flashes have the receiver built in, so there’s nothing much else to connect anywhere.
      .

      If you would like remote power control from the camera though (which sure helps when learning) the Godox V850 are nicer option for a little bit more.

      Again all you need is the Godox FT-16 transmitter to place on your camera hotshoe. And the FT-16s receivers clip on to the side of the flash. Changing flash power levels from the transmitter is dead simple then.
      .

      Regarding 2 or 3 lights in the studio, I’m not sure if you mean more studio lights, or the YN-560 III speedlites? Studio lights have a built in optic slave though anyway, which will fire from the light coming from your speedlite.

      If you mean using the speedlites in your studio, then that’s even more reason to go with the Godox V850. As changing AA batteries in the YN-560 III all the time is not much fun. The V850 will go for hours on one battery charge.
      .

      For a guide to flash photography – neilvn.com/tangents is very good. See “flash photography techniques” near the bottom on the right menu.

      You can start with the flash on the camera to get familiar with the basics there, and then start moving the lights off camera. Its very easy to fire the flash away from the camera with the radio triggers mentioned above though. Thanks.

      • Deborah says:

        Hey!
        Thank you so much for taking the time to provide a comprehensive reply – really appreciate that! I think that I will probably go with the YN-560 III with the RF-603 II receiver, as I only want to buy one speedlite for now…… UI will link it to my 2 x studio Elinchrom D-lites (which as you say, will have optic built-in slaves, so will fire from my new speedlite…..I am getting excited now!

        I will also have a read of the neilvn.com/tangents that you suggested and any other good flash photography guides / Youtube clips? – if you can think of any? Many thanks again – really appreciate your knowledge! Deborah

  13. Ribamar says:

    Adquiri um YN560-III, ele é compatível com a Cannon EOS Redel T31? desculpe a minha leiguice, mais não consigo configurar , isso é, se for compatível.

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hello Ribamar,

      Yes the Canon T3i is compatible, but you will need an RF-603 II transmitter to fire the flash away from the camera.

      On the camera hotshoe the YN-560 III is just a simple manual flash, no TTL function.

  14. Wick Smith says:

    Using a pair of 603 triggers, you can do remote light painting by having a trigger mounted on the flash trigger the camera, which in turn triggers the flash. Can this 560 III do something like this?

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Wick,

      Not that I’m aware of.

      But I think all you would need to do is place one RF-603 on the flash you are triggering the camera with, just as you did before.

      Any other YN-560 III should then still fire through their built-in receiver.

  15. Sal says:

    Hi
    I have a simple query. I got a Canon 70D, Thinking to buy 2 x YN-560 III . Would I really be needing a trigger ? If so which one. 70D has a wifi. And If I m not mistaken YN-560 III has a wifi as well.
    How am I gonna manage ?

    Thanks in advance

  16. Flash Havoc says:

    Hi Sal,

    Sorry no the YN-560 III does not have wifi, and the the 70D built in flash transmitter is not wifi either.

    The YN-560 III has a basic optic slave which will fire from the light coming from the 70D’s pop up flash. But that is basically limited to line of sight, and works best indoors.

    So if you want to take advantage of the YN-560 III’s built in radio receiver, then yes, you would need an RF-603 II as a transmitter on the camera.

    You could get by with a single RF-603 II unit, though its a good idea to buy the set (pair) so you have a back up transmitter if there are any issues. And the second one can be used as a shutter release as well. Thanks.

    • sal says:

      Thanks for your reply. Alright , I get it that the wifi wont work as transmitter.

      Can you help me in buying please. I want to buy two YN-560 III, So I would need two RF-603 or one ? and In my country RF-603 is out of stock so can I buy RF-602/C instead ?

      Thanks in advance.

      • Flash Havoc says:

        Hi Sal,

        You only need one RF-603 as the transmitter unit. Though it helps to have a pair so you have one as a back up. The second one can also be used as a shutter release at the same time. But one RF-603 is all that is needed to fire both of the YN-560 III.

        Yes you can use RF-602, RF-603, or RF-603 II.

        RF-602 come as a transmitter and receiver set though, and you only need the transmitter.

  17. eugenia says:

    Hi!! I have a canon 1100D and I want to buy the YN-560 with the RF-603 II transmitter. I had no idea that I can use a second unit as a shutter release. That function will work on my camera? how do you set that? and if I release the shutter with the second unit, the flash its gonna be trigered as well?
    thanks for your time!

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Eugenia,

      I assume you mean the YN-560 III (you can still use a YN-560, though it requires a separate RF-603 II etc radio receiver, where as the YN-560 III has the radio receiver built in).

      Yes you can use a second RF-603 II as a shutter release. And it will fire both your camera shutter and the remote flash in sync.

      The RF-603 II on your camera hotshoe is simply connected to the cameras shutter release port as well. Set that to TRX mode, and TRX mode for the RF-603 II in hand as the remote release trigger. And the flash is already set as a receiver. Any flash on RF-603 II receivers would also be set to RX mode.

      You will need the C1 version RF-603 II for the 1100D compatible shutter release cable. Thanks.

  18. rey says:

    Hi flash havoc,
    Im planning to buy flash as my second flash backup for my camera d80 ive sb900 which was very exhausted and its own its way for repair, i used it usually for fast shooting of wedding and school graduation, wud u help me a bit of what wud be best il buy, yn 560, sb 700, or phottix mitros for nikon. That it cn be my back up to my sb 900 or vice versa that they cn booth trigger each other incase of me needing to use a slave in my shoot. Hope u can help me decide… thnk u

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi rey,

      Do you need a TTL flash?, as the YN-560 III is only manual.

      Most manual flashes have a simple optic slave, which will allows them to fire from another flash. And the YN-560 III has an optic slave as well.

      If you’re just after a manual flash I think one of the best at the moment would have to be the Godox V850, its inexpensive, well made, and the Lithium-Ion battery is fantastic.

      If you need TTL, then yes the Phottix Mitros would be a good solid alternative to the SB-900. The SB-700 are nice as well, though they don’t have a port for an external battery pack.

  19. Britz says:

    Does this have a TTL function? And is it compatible to sync to a Canon 7D?

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Britz,

      Sorry no the YN-560 III does not have a TTL mode.

      Yes they will sync with the 7D, but using manual power levels only. Thanks.

  20. ashton says:

    Any word on the release of the dedicated trigger for the 560 III? I have Paul C. Buff Cyber Sync triggers, can I use it with the 560 III?

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi ashton,

      YongNuo customer service replied to one persons question saying around April – May.

      But I really don’t think you can rely on any time estimates until the units are really actually just about to ship. As they could easily put them off again for anything that comes up in the mean time.

      Yes the Paul C. Buff Cyber Sync triggers should be fine to simply fire the YN-560 III. You need a receiver attached to the flash though. Thanks.

  21. Paul says:

    I use 560iii’s as part of a portable studio setup but have been thinking about upgrading my light meter to a sekonic 478dr. My question is can the sekonic with its in built wireless trigger, trigger the 560iii? If not can you recommend a light meter than can if any.

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Paul,

      The Sekonic meter is only directly compatible with PocketWizard radio triggers.

      So you could use any PocketWizard receivers attached to the YN-560 III to fire them through the light meter.

      But you won’t get any power level control of the flashes through the meter unless you use TT1 / TT5 with compatible TTL flashes. So using the YN-560 III, the PocketWizard Plus X, or Plus III, receivers would be all you would need (or there is no advantage with the TT1 / TT5).

      Otherwise you can simply fire the flashes via an RF-603 II test fire button, and set the Sekonic to meter the light as it detects the flash go off.

      I don’t think other flash meter brands have any interface with radio triggers. Thanks.

  22. Hasan says:

    I have below scenario .. want to know if YN 560 III will work with or not

    I have Canon 600D, Canon EX580, Godox TT660 and Godox trigger CT-04 CT

    The normal way of making both flashes fire at shooting I’m using is :
    attaching trigger to Camera,
    receiver to Canon EX580 and not setting it to master nor slave,
    making Godox TT660 on S1

    Now if I added the YN 560 III in that environment and adjusting it on S2 ..
    Will it sync and fire with the other two flashes ?

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Hasan,

      You would set the YN-560 III to S1 slave mode as well, and it should work just like the TT660 does set to S1.

      S2 is for when the flash acting as the trigger is set to TTL. As TTL produces a pre-flash, and the S2 mode ignores the first pre-flash and fires on the second main flash (which is then in sync with the camera shutter). Thanks.

  23. So please confirm:

    1. The new YN622C-TX will control output my Canon 580exII on a YN622C?
    2. The new YN622C-TX will control output of the YN560III flashes?
    3. Does the YN622C currently control output of a YN560II?

  24. Joey says:

    Hi, i just want to know how to set up my canon 7D with the YN 560 III? i tried everything but it doesnt fire.

    Thank you so much

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Joey,

      Sounds silly, but the first thing to check is that you are putting the flash in the hotshoe the right way? (it has been the issue a number of times before).

      Another is to wiggle the flash in the hotshoe a bit, as the YN-560 III has had some issues sometimes simply making contact with the camera.

      From a function point of view, you will need to make sure the flash is in Manual mode, and not in S1 or S2 slave modes. Also it should not be in the radio slave mode, so the dip switches should not be showing on the LCD screen.

      Hopefully one of those may help? Thanks.

  25. Michael says:

    Do you know if the YN 560iii is compatible with the Pixel TD-381 external battery pack. The 381 does have the Canon plug. I have this set up but unable to tell if it is working. I am able to connect the battery pack to the flash but the 560iii does not seem to have a custom setting to allow me to NOT rely on the batteries in the flash unit. I saw a video where the YN 580EXii had a custom setting that allowed one to not use the batteries in the flash unit and rely only on the external battery pack. Any help you can offer would be great.

    Your review of the 560iii is great and I did end up buying four of them. I just hope I can work out the external battery pack issue.

    Thanks.

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Michael,

      The Pixel TD-381 certainly should work with the YN-560 III, I’ve tried this combination a number of times and had it working fine.

      As soon as you plug the TD-381 into the flash it should automatically start recycling much faster (around 0.7 seconds at full power with Sanyo Eneloops).

      There is no option to use external batteries only with the YN-560 III, but that doesn’t really matter that much because its the overheat protection that’s ultimately going to slow you down eventually anyway.

      Using the external batteries only, slows the recycle a little, and means the on board batteries don’t get hot. But with the external pack you’re going to hit over heat protection limits anyway before the internal batteries get all that warm even. On their own they can get very hot! So your not missing much there.

      I don’t know if you have tried the pack with any other flashes to know if the pack itself is working ok? All I can suggest is to make sure you have the batteries all in the correct order, and the battery tray properly closed (the LED lights should display).

      Also make sure the plug is pressed into the flash port properly, as those ports are tight and maybe you haven’t pushed the plug in all the way. Other than that I would want to try the pack on another flash. Thanks.

  26. Ed says:

    I just bought 2 yn560 III to use with my nikon sb900. I also bought the yn-622n iTTL triggers. When I place the yn 560 III in the S2 slot on the the 622n it will not fire. When I put them in Multi they fire. Do you know what would cause this to happen? None of the flashes fire when I put them in the RX mode using the yn 622n. Why is that?

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Ed,

      Unfortunately the YN-560 III and YN-622N are 2 completely different systems, and not directly compatible.

      If you place a YN-622N on the foot of a YN-560 III all it will do is fire the flash, no remote control of any sort. And the flash must be in manual mode, not S1 or S2, or the radio receiver mode (so the channel dip switches on the LCD screen should not be showing).

      There are currently no flashes with a YN-622N receiver built in. And to use TTL or any remote manual functions with the YN-622N you will need a Nikon compatible TTL enabled flash, like the Nikon flashes or the YongNuo YN-568EX or 565EX (which doesn’t have HSS).

      There will be a new transmitter available eventually which will allow remote manual power setting with the YN-560 III, and using its built in radio receiver (so no other receivers are needed). That is manual only though, no TTL or HSS etc. Thanks.

  27. David says:

    Hi,

    thanks for the great review. I am relatively new to the world of flashes and i have a (probably dumb) question.

    can this flash be triggered remotely through the RF-603-II at any point during the exposure and as many times as you like? i dont’ want the flash to be a slave to the camera as i am looking to purchase this mainly for light painting.

    many thanks

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi David,

      Yes you could just hold the RF-603II transmitter in your hand, and use the test fire button to fire the flashes as often as you like. Thanks.

  28. L SRIDHAR says:

    HI ,

    Is YN 560 III Compatible with Nikon D7100.
    I just bought the YN 560 III and attached to the hot shoe of Nikon D7100 and when I press the shutter button the YN 560 III is not flashing , test flash using the PILOT button is working on the YN 560 III.
    Do I need to change any settings in my cam. In buitl flash of Nikon D71000 is working properly ,
    The only option I see to change settings in the body is in the bracketing / flash menu.
    Which settings should I keep to make the flash working atleast in the hot shoe.

    2) Even I tried with RF603 II connected to the hotshoe of cam , and flash is set to RF 603 ,in advanced options , only flash is working by pressing the test button on the rf 603 but flash is not working when I press the shutter button on the cam.

    Please suggest if I am doing some thing wrong or if YN 560 III itself is not compatible with Nikon D7100.

    Best regards,
    Sridhar.

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi L SRIDHAR,

      I don’t think there would be any compatibility issue with the D7100 camera.

      Though I’m not that familiar with Nikon cameras and there could be a setting somewhere, as it does sound like your hotshoe is somehow being disabled there.

      But also -

      For the flash to fire via its foot (mounted on the camera hotshoe, or on a radio trigger receiver etc), the flash must be in M manual mode, not S1 or S2, and not in the radio receiver mode. So you shouldn’t see the channel did switches on the flash LCD screen.

      2) So the flash is firing off-camera via the RF-603 as transmitter?

      Have you had any other flash or trigger firing on the the D7100 hotshoe yet? Thanks.

  29. Matthew says:

    Hello!

    Is the YN-560 III compatible with the YN 622 if the flash is mounted on a YN622 receiver? Do I understand correctly that I wouldn’t be able to change the manual output of the 560 II from my camera with the YN 622 mounted, correct?

    I would like to know if this scenario is possible:
    1. I use a YN-622 to trigger two off-camera YN-560 III flashes using connected YN 622 receivers so that when I fire, the off-camera flashes fire as well as my camera mounted flash.

    2. At the “same time”, my assistant uses a YN 603 II to trigger the internal receiver on the flashes, so that when she fires, the off-camera flashes fire as well as her camera mounted flash.

    Would the settings of the “Trigger Mode” button interfere with this, so that if I’m in Radio mode, the YN-622s wouldn’t fire the flashes as well?

    If there was a workaround, how would setting the flash power work? Could I just do it manually?

    Thanks very much!

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Mathew,

      You are correct, there is no remote power control with the YN-560 II or YN-560 III when mounted on a YN-622C as receiver. The YN-622C require compatible full TTL enabled flashes even for remote manual power control. So a YN-565EX flash at least would be a better option there with the YN-622C.

      1. Yes this will work. Though assuming this may be for weddings (as you mention an assistant shooting as well), the flash on top of the pass through hotshoe may not be the ideal for a long term reliable solution.

      2. Sorry no, the radio receiver mode in the YN-560 III disables firing via the hotshoe at the same time. I tried the PC sync port in the flash as well but that won’t work at the same time as the radio receiver either.

      Also I’m not sure if you are aware that the RF-603 II does not have a TTL pass through hotshoe, just a manual one. So TTL flash on camera would not be possible there.

      The Godox V850 may be an alternative for a manual flash option. That will fire via its clip on radio receiver (which also does remote manual power control) as well as via the foot, and the sync port at the same time.

      So with the V850 you could actually attach a YN-622C receiver via the PC sync port, and an RF-603 II on the flash foot. And you could both have a Godox FT-16 transmitter in pocket for changing the power levels.

      If you’re not using any TTL flashes off camera, I would suggest the Phottix Strato II are one of the better pass through hotshoe trigger options.

      Otherwise you could go all TTL Triggers/Flashes. Thanks.

  30. seng says:

    HI
    I am interested in a second flash to go with my Olympuns FL36. I currently use Panasonic G6. Should I go for 560-Iiii with RF602 or better off with the TTL flash model?
    Regards
    Seng

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi seng,

      If you go with the YN-560 III, then the best radio transmitter currently would be the RF-603 II.

      The YN-560 III currently has no remote control or TTL function, so its manual only, and power setting must currently be adjusted directly on the flash.

      The advantage of the radio though is much greater range, without the restriction and hassle of line of sight, and using the pop up flash as the trigger.

      So another Olympus/Panasonic TTL flash would provide more control from the camera, just more restricted range and line of sight / low light needed.

      Another current option would be the remote manual Godox V850. They at least provide easy remote manual power control from the transmitter on the camera hotshoe. Thanks.

  31. Ben says:

    I have a nikon d610 camera with a sb910 flash, and I use impact to triger the flash. I will need extra flashes, I don’t know if YongNuo YN-560 III is compatible with my equipment, can I use the impact to triger this flashes?

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi Ben,

      You can use Impact radio triggers to fire the YN-560 III as long as you have an Impact receiver attached to the YN-560 III flashes.

      The YN-560 III have RF-602 / RF-603 compatible receivers built in though, so you may be better off just grabbing a set of RF-603 II as well. One RF-603 II would act as transmitter to fire as many YN-560 III as you like. Then the second RF-603 II would act as the receiver for your SB-910.

      As mentioned above though, its also worth considering the recent Godox V850, as they are fantastic remote manual flashes with their own inexpensive radio system. Godox Cells II can then be used as receivers to fire the SB-910. Thanks.

      • Ben says:

        Does this flashes fire with a flash from other flash?

        • Flash Havoc says:

          Hi Ben,

          Yes the YN-560 III has an optic slave built in.

          There are 2 modes, S1 and S2. S1 fires from regular manual flashes, and S2 works with TTL flashes which produce a pre-flash. So you can use manual or TTL flashes to optically trigger the YN-560 III. Thanks.

  32. FlashChill says:

    Fantastic job here, Havoc! You are a treasure with your dedication to answer everyone..

    Could please help me through this simple question.
    I have D80 Nikon with built-in flash which can control slaves (as I understand).
    Also I would like to buy YN-560 III.

    1. Do I need to buy an additional radio trigger (I have one for using with Dynaphos strobes)?
    2. If so does RF-603 II should be my choice? How many to buy?

    Thank you very much preliminary!

    • Flash Havoc says:

      Hi FlashChill,

      Thanks for that. If you go with the YN-560 III you will need a radio transmitter, and yes the RF-603 II would be the best option at the moment.

      You would only need a single RF-603 II to use as the transmitter to actually fire the YN-560 III flashes. Though you might like to get more RF-603 II to use as receivers on your Dynaphos strobes as well. They would likely have simple optic slave built in though as well.

      The RF-603 II will only simply fire the YN-560 III at this stage. A new YN-560-TX yet to come (eventually) will allow remote manual power control.

      The Godox V850 are also really worth considering though as well, as the remote manual transmitter is available now, and they are killer flashes for the price.

      If you want to use the D80′s commander to control speedlights instead via the optic wireless, then the YN-560EX are another relatively inexpensive option. But optic wireless is pretty limited compared to radio. Thanks.

  33. David says:

    I cannt for the life of me trigger this flash remotely!

    I have the 560 III and the RF 603C and put the flash unit into RX mode. I’ve also checked that it’s configured to use the RF 603 in the custom functions but it’s not triggering! I’ve tried playing with the dip switched in the remote trigger but that doesn’t help. I’ cannot figure out how to change the channel on the actual flash either! It’s driving me bonkers!

    If you could offer any help or guidance that’d be magic! I want to throw it out the window at the moment! :)

    • David says:

      I should probably clarify that I want to trigger the flash using the remote trigger when it’s in my pocket NOT only when it’s attached to the hot shoe

      • Flash Havoc says:

        Hi David,

        Unfortunately you can’t fire the original RF-603 off the camera hotshoe (unless you do some modifications).

        You would be best to simply pick up an RF-603 II unit for Canon.

        • David says:

          you sir, are a legend!

          I finally figured that out after lots of searching and messing around :) I’ve now ordered the said RF 603 II’s. Happy days.

  34. Guclu says:

    I bought two yongnuo 560 iii, i want to use them as twinlight ,with 600 d canon
    Is it possible to use them with 600 d wireles flash controller or should i buy a receiver and transmitter for using them both?
    If i could use with my canon wireless controlller can you give me an information how to ?

    Waiting your reply
    Thanks for all

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